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[swongolianbbq]

Thanks!

Interesting, so it's the stock Indy kingpin that has the least threads?

Thanks for the tip on chasing the threads too

[jamesmocapaldi]

@Mbrimson88 not to beat a dead horse, but do you or anyone have photos of the shaftnut on slappy trucks?

[intendedreceivers]

What do you think are the bushings with the "snappiest" rebound/ return to center

You ever try the Riptide APS formula? I’ve used the 90A for street and park skating and the 80A in my main cruiser for a while now and they’ve been great.

[rikki]

Duro notwithstanding:

"Snappiest" bushings = DLX (Thunder, Venture)

"Least snappy" bushings = Ace, Bones

Indy is somewhere there in between.

[logjammin]

I think I've probably tried every bushing and bushing combo under the sun.

ace stock/mediums are the bounciest most lively bushings. you can test bushing rebound by feeling its resistance when you squeeze it between your thumb and index finger. along with setting them up and seeing how well the hanger returns to center after you push down on the wheel and let your palm slide off so it snaps back.

a lot of bushings will return to center fine, but just do so without any character. I can get my hanger to bounce with so much rebound that it's like Indy's logo animation where the hanger vibrates side to side super fast and then turns into the logo.

I disagree on the dlx bushings, they're some of the lowest rebound bushings I've tried. riptide bushings are good but I really couldn't tell much of a difference between those and some Indy aftermarkets or something. if you use some sleeved washers you can get lower rebound bushings to snap back to center better, but ace still wins.

[Mbrimson88]

@Mbrimson88 not to beat a dead horse, but do you or anyone have photos of the shaftnut on slappy trucks?

I don't have any of those trucks myself, but I looked them up and here are some images that hopefully show enough of it - maybe a slightly more recessed top compared to the other trucks, but just click on them for the full size:










* Adding this too, which may or may not be a good read:

https://www.slappytrucks.com/blogs/news/the-daily-grind-korea-review-slappy-trucks-st1-hollow-inverted

[TwisT]

Duro notwithstanding:

"Snappiest" bushings = DLX (Thunder, Venture)

"Least snappy" bushings = Ace, Bones

Indy is somewhere there in between.

snappiest as in they snap.

But seriously something about a busted thunder bushing that just works.

[moonordie]

Anybody find the Japan Pro toe shape weird for kickflips?

[jamesmocapaldi]

So I’m finally able to hit my old local with smooth concrete more often.

I’m on f4 99 classics. I suck at transition and want to start hitting the bowl there more often. I felt like I was starting to slip when working on getting higher than 3 feet up the transition around corners, especially frontside. If I want more confidence in my grip, for smooth modern skatepark concrete transition, do I stick with f4 99 and try a wider profile/square edge shape, try a different duro (97/101), both? Try a different brand altogether (been thinking about trying x formula)? I just bought some 56mm f4 99 radials that will be wider but otherwise similar in edge profile and duro.

Give me some recs guys, I don’t want to spend too much money trying wheels. Just looking for a teeny tiny bit more grip while I learn the ropes in the bowl. I otherwise skate low impact, flat, mannys, ledges, but don’t normally feel partial to a specific shape for that stuff.

[Lou Strux]

Respectfully I say to thee…

If you genuinely don’t want to spend money, just work on your technique.

There are countless scores of skaters plying the transitions of concrete bowls & masonite ramps on F4 99 Classic profile wheels without problem or incident.

Additionally, there’s no guarantee that a different profile or duro will correct the issue you’re having.

By all means, DO dump money into the skate economy & buy another set of wheels, but I have 100% faith that you (and I mean YOU, specifically) can not only do all of the moves you are capable of, but also learn new ones on ANY set up you ride, given time to acclimate, & that INCLUDES your current ride, complete w/ F4 99 Classics.

I 100% believe in you & am already looking forward to your progress report, regardless of the choice you eventually make.

[BartHarleyJarvis]

With respect to @Lou Strux whom I adore and aspire to be more like….

I can wholeheartedly recommend the spitfire 93s. I normally ride 99 conical fulls or radial fulls but picked up a set of the 93 radials and ended up loving them. There’s a lot of really slippery parks where I am and nothing scares me more than taking a turn and losing grip. The 93s give me really nice grip on slippery surfaces that makes me way more confident. I even skated a notoriously slippery indoor bowl with them and had zero issues.

My technique is bad and isn’t going to get better so I’ll take the help wherever I can get it.

[Slave IV]

While I agree with @Lou Strux i also had similar experiences as @jamesmocapaldi described when I first tried to ride at a smooth skatepark. I tried all the wheels I had at the time, which were all thin, hard wheels from when I skated 10-20 years ago. I noticed a lot of people around had wide, squarish wheels so I figured I at least needed to try something wider so I got 54mm Conical Full 99s and they did indeed help me from slipping out. Now that I’m used to riding smooth skateparks, it no longer matters. So I could have absolutely figured it out without getting new wheels but it would have involved more eating shit and less confidence. I’d say, the main difference is in the width/contact patch so since you already have wider Radials, try those. They should be better for sure.

[jamesmocapaldi]

@LouStrux
🥲 Encouraged now to go out and treat it like every other thing in skating— consistent practice is key. Thanks! 🫡

@BartHarleyJarvis , @Slave IV
Will definitely keep those recs in mind in the future! Gonna try the radials I bought before posting here as well.

[rawbertson.]

i remember going to a 95a wheel before soft sliders came out, coming from like 104a STF wheels, and i was like "whoa, i actually have grip on transition" and felt so confident skating transition again. but thne it was like "oh, i cant cant noseslide or crook unless you wax it every single fkn time..."
I skate curbs probably 5-10x more often than i skate ramps, so you can guess what becomes more of a priority for me.

i find the wider shapes once they start to slip you absolutely lose it, so like a 97a radial/conical probably more ideal if you want transition to feel somewhat grippy, but 99a classic is also totally fine and seems to be a fairly preferred wheel of most skaters (i prerfer the radial full)

never had 101a F4s but they must be CRAZY slick like the old STF

i would be curious to try OJ 101as to see how slick they are, especially that double duro

[Mbrimson88]

i remember going to a 95a wheel before soft sliders came out, coming from like 104a STF wheels, and i was like "whoa, i actually have grip on transition" and felt so confident skating transition again. but thne it was like "oh, i cant cant noseslide or crook unless you wax it every single fkn time..."
I skate curbs probably 5-10x more often than i skate ramps, so you can guess what becomes more of a priority for me.

i find the wider shapes once they start to slip you absolutely lose it, so like a 97a radial/conical probably more ideal if you want transition to feel somewhat grippy, but 99a classic is also totally fine and seems to be a fairly preferred wheel of most skaters (i prerfer the radial full)

never had 101a F4s but they must be CRAZY slick like the old STF

i would be curious to try OJ 101as to see how slick they are, especially that double duro

The crazy thing with some (maybe not all) of the 101 variants is they don't actually slide too well, some even feeling way more grippy and abrasive than normal 99s, but then other times if they let go, they definitely let go and slip out.

I have noticed too that more of other brand 101s are not actually that hard, or don't slide too well, compared to some other wheels that seem to have all the properties you want and none of the issues you don't want.

You know my preference of wheel, so I don't need to go on about it here.


OJs seemed to be more grippy in general, which was good for some people on the slippery ramps we have round here, but I haven't tried all options in OJs, maybe more so the older formulas and the regular ones that people have on their boards - haven't seen the double duro on anyones board and not willing to get a set just to test them for how much they cost.

Maybe more than anything the harder duro options are just better on the smooth and fast surfaces too, whereas 99s are really just a nice all rounder for everything, but I have been experimenting with the 97s and even the 95s on various surfaces, just to see what they are like.  The 93 are almost a little too "slidey" for some things (like carving in towards parking blocks on a local carpark surface I can feel them going), but when they are called "Soft sliders" then that all makes sense.

[sk8n hugon]

I really like the OJ Elite 99a for smooth skatepark concrete. Fast and grippy. However, I don’t care for those wheels on any other terrain.

[Creachteach]

I’m old and a little out of touch. I know you/I physically could go and buy and ride a Zero board, but I’m wondering if you should?
If yes, which pro boards are okay? Kanaan Dern?

[moonordie]

I’m old and a little out of touch. I know you/I physically could go and buy and ride a Zero board, but I’m wondering if you should?
If yes, which pro boards are okay? Kanaan Dern?

Don't get Zero. Thomas is a piece of shit and still supports a wife beater.

[moonordie]

Anybody tried to cut this "wrapping ankle" part?
Makes the fit a fucking nightmare in pretty much all shoes.

[rikki]

Anybody tried to cut this "wrapping ankle" part?
Makes the fit a fucking nightmare in pretty much all shoes.

It's called a heel cup and it can work in providing more heel stability and alignment if one needs some. Works great e.g. with a shoe that's a bit too large.

You can cut it and work with it as good as any other part of the insole.

[moonordie]

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Anybody tried to cut this "wrapping ankle" part?
Makes the fit a fucking nightmare in pretty much all shoes.

[close]

It's called a heel cup and it can work in providing more heel stability and alignment if one needs some. Works great e.g. with a shoe that's a bit too large.

You can cut it and work with it as good as any other part of the insole.

Heel cup! That was the term I was missing. Thanks for that.
But this model is not supposed to have some gel in that area?

[Jort250]

Did the mob grip formula ever change? I used to really dislike mob grip in the 2010s but tried it on my most recent board and like it now.

[rawbertson.]

Yeah I had some off brand 101 wheels that were really grippy, took em off after one sesh.

I have heard particularly those OJ 101 double duros are deadly slippery, which is what i want 

I have some 97s and 95s of OJ and they are really good for ramp riding

[Hqjdncm]

Does anyone have a list of skate shop sites that aren’t on shoplurker, uniondiscount, or shop.app
I wanna support local shops and but a lot don’t always have the sizes of either shoes or boards or the trucks I want

[DNTRODDEN]

Does anyone have a list of skate shop sites that aren’t on shoplurker, uniondiscount, or shop.app
I wanna support local shops and but a lot don’t always have the sizes of either shoes or boards or the trucks I want

The lack of basic demensions of deck on a retail site really hurts my feelings

[moykky]

Anybody tried to cut this "wrapping ankle" part?
Makes the fit a fucking nightmare in pretty much all shoes.

The heelcup in those is sized weirdly, it never fits properly to "skate shoes". Maybe if you'd use those in some rubberboots they might.

Heelcup in size 5 insole fits to size 10 shoes, but is too small in every other aspect...

[Hqjdncm]

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Does anyone have a list of skate shop sites that aren’t on shoplurker, uniondiscount, or shop.app
I wanna support local shops and but a lot don’t always have the sizes of either shoes or boards or the trucks I want

[close]

The lack of basic demensions of deck on a retail site really hurts my feelings

I tend to find a deck I’m interested in from the actual company site to learn the dims, if need be consult slap, then once I’ve got one set that I want, search shops to find one

[DNTRODDEN]

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Does anyone have a list of skate shop sites that aren’t on shoplurker, uniondiscount, or shop.app
I wanna support local shops and but a lot don’t always have the sizes of either shoes or boards or the trucks I want

[close]

The lack of basic dimensions of deck on a retail site really hurts my feelings

[close]

I tend to find a deck I’m interested in from the actual company site to learn the dims, if need be consult slap, then once I’ve got one set that I want, search shops to find one

Sounds a lot like my work flow, but I am not sure it should be that hard, lol, retailers should just list the information.

[potpie]

Will leaving your board in the car during the summer damage it? We recently had a heatwave and it feels like everything is softer/soggier. Bushings/wheels/deck all feel softer, not sure if it's in my head?

[gringo_viejo]

Will leaving your board in the car during the summer damage it? We recently had a heatwave and it feels like everything is softer/soggier. Bushings/wheels/deck all feel softer, not sure if it's in my head?

Yeah I’d avoid that whenever possible. Heat warps decks. Bushings getting softer is real, at least in the short term. Heat does wheels no good either. And cars can get up to 120° or more in the summer.

…but we’ve all gone straight to an after work sesh. Trunk is better than back seat. Take an old board, maybe?