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Yall know which woodshop “Slinky2020” uses?


From looking at a few posts and other info, with likes, I would say they are from Quarter Distribution.

Can't confirm exactly, but being in EU somewhere - Germany? - and having the connection there, I would say that is the most likely option.


https://slinky2020.com/products/cats-skateboard

https://www.instagram.com/slinky.2020/?hl=en

https://www.instagram.com/quarter_dist/?hl=en






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From looking at a few posts and other info, with likes, I would say they are from Quarter Distribution.

Can't confirm exactly, but being in EU somewhere - Germany? - and having the connection there, I would say that is the most likely option.

yes i think they are from Quarter for what i know



https://slinky2020.com/products/cats-skateboard

https://www.instagram.com/slinky.2020/?hl=en

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yes i think they are from Quarter for what i know



Thanks!

I can only ever find out so much, a lot of it even a little guesswork like this one, but glad some one else knows a bit more.

Always appreciate people jumping in with more info to help with the Woodshop thread.



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Are Deathwish still bbs?

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Are Deathwish still bbs?


All of the Baker Boys distribution family still is, as far as I know.


* We have Birdhouse boards from China here in AU, but I have never seen a pro board from any of the other brands - Baker, Deathwish or Heroin from anything other than BBS.

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Well, just got my new Real Team Oval Cathedral deck (the newest purple one) in the 8.06” True Fit mold, and it’s made in China. Seems like a lot of brands for export on new drops are offering Chop Chop decks as alternatives to BBS. The distributor here in Australia must have to go for them to keep the price competitive, but it’s probably safe to say most new drops from DLX brands exported to Australia (and possibly Europe) will be Chop Chop made now. I will say my experience with the new Hockey deck I posted about previously has been very good so it’s definitely not a negative, it just would be nice to know this would be the case from now on.


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Well, just got my new Real Team Oval Cathedral deck (the newest purple one) in the 8.06” True Fit mold, and it’s made in China. Seems like a lot of brands for export on new drops are offering Chop Chop decks as alternatives to BBS. The distributor here in Australia must have to go for them to keep the price competitive, but it’s probably safe to say most new drops from DLX brands exported to Australia (and possibly Europe) will be Chop Chop made now. I will say my experience with the new Hockey deck I posted about previously has been very good so it’s definitely not a negative, it just would be nice to know this would be the case from now on.




This has been the case since mid 2023, so yeah about two years now that we (here in Australia) as well as most of the world outside of USA have been getting the China made DLX boards.  I don't believe there was any real choice in the matter - it is just what DLX deemed a more viable option moving forward and to be very honest, even though I was not so keen at first, I am all for it now, even if I still prefer to skate the BBS versions.

Specific thread here too:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=127113.0


I am curious if the Tru Fit mold actually has a shorter mold or if it is the same as a regular one, just Tru Fit dimensions, as I haven't seen any of those around at all, even though I have had a dozen other DLX China made board shapes come through my hands.


As for info in this thread, it was maybe not so well known as to what would happen or whether or not we would still keep getting any BBS boards, or they would all be China made boards, but we still seem to have a fair number of BBS, although it is more limited to the twin Ishod boards, Easy Rider mold, some other specific shapes or graphics as well as all the AH Eagles, Real Ovals and Krooked Eyes series, although there have been some Eyes graphics from China too.  The DBX boards are also only BBS right now as well.

Everything else is now directly made and shipped from a known woodshop in China, as it lowers price but it also means that we can get the current drop of decks here at pretty much the same time as USA gets theirs from BBS for the current stock drops, as opposed to at least three or more months waiting for stock to be loaded into a container from DLX / USA and shipped to us, as per the usual way things have been done for a long time.

To note, they worked with relevant parties to make the molds to give the exact DLX specific concaves to the China made boards, so compared to some brands that have BBS for one, then China for another with completely generic or basic board molds, these boards are the same spoon shaped concave in the kicks, as well as almost the exact same concaves for a II or III stamp board that would have come from BBS, all single press with epoxy construction so they are very stiff and keep their pop for a long time, maybe longer than the average BBS board, if we really want to compare wood, but for me they took some time to get used to and I still find they are too stiff for my old legs when the boards are very new.


All that said, I guess it is something that I know some people still may have not been aware of and it comes as somewhat of a shock, but the boards are good, skate well, stay somewhat more affordable than BBS made boards with prices going up even more now in recent years, so there are considerable benefits from these boards for the rest of the world.

As to the listings on the first page, or having more info easy to see, maybe having (USA only) or (Rest of the world) after each brand could make it easier to see and distinguish, but it was difficult as there were some of each and still are some of each here and in most countries now.


* Keen to hear how that board skates for you too, if you are skating it?  I know a lot of people collect and keep those Cathedral series boards too.


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I’d say the previous announcement of DLX changing some boards to DSM in 2023 probably relates more to the generic/basic graphic boards (eagles, krooked eyes etc) rather than pro models and special drops, as I’ve certainly gotten boards in the last year that were still made at BBS, including a Real 7.75 Oval deck. I’ve also had plenty of Hockey Boards (which I know aren’t DLX but still) that were only released last year still made at BBS.

It seems to be in particular recently that lots of new drops have been completely switched to DSM now including the pro models and special drop boards, like this Cathedral deck. I guess it was inevitable really that the entire drops would switch production.

From what FA told me about it when I asked them about the newest Hockey boards, it does seem like the distributors can choose which factory to import from. I ordered a board directly from FA, which shipped from LA and it was BBS, so it not like FA would only ship a board from DSM if ordered from overseas.

I do agree however that these boards still skate great, my Chinese Hockey is holding up better than my previous BBS hockey (which went soggy after two months) and I will certainly be skating this Real Cathedral, especially since I really wanted to try a True Fit Mold deck since I’m a short dude haha.

Some shops here have some There True Fit decks in the same size, maybe I’ll try to grab one and compare it at some point later.
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I’d say the previous announcement of DLX changing some boards to DSM in 2023 probably relates more to the generic/basic graphic boards (eagles, krooked eyes etc) rather than pro models and special drops, as I’ve certainly gotten boards in the last year that were still made at BBS, including a Real 7.75 Oval deck. I’ve also had plenty of Hockey Boards (which I know aren’t DLX but still) that were only released last year still made at BBS.

It seems to be in particular recently that lots of new drops have been completely switched to DSM now including the pro models and special drop boards, like this Cathedral deck. I guess it was inevitable really that the entire drops would switch production.

From what FA told me about it when I asked them about the newest Hockey boards, it does seem like the distributors can choose which factory to import from. I ordered a board directly from FA, which shipped from LA and it was BBS, so it not like FA would only ship a board from DSM if ordered from overseas.

I do agree however that these boards still skate great, my Chinese Hockey is holding up better than my previous BBS hockey (which went soggy after two months) and I will certainly be skating this Real Cathedral, especially since I really wanted to try a True Fit Mold deck since I’m a short dude haha.

Some shops here have some There True Fit decks in the same size, maybe I’ll try to grab one and compare it at some point later.



The woodshop in China that BBS / DLX partnered with is not DSM, just to make that clear, but another well known woodshop in China, even though there has not been any official release of said info, it is out there in information for people to look up.

DLX had specifically said that their AH Eagles, Real Ovals and some others would stay BBS as previously mentioned, so yes your Real Oval at least as far as I know will keep being BBS.  That and some of the generic / team graphics might also have a lot of stock locally / in the country, along with some shops sitting on stock for a while too, which adds up to more BBS boards still out there, but mainly almost all the new boards coming out are made in China, but not absolutely all of them.  Just not any of the Ishod twin boards, the Easy Rider molds, DBX boards and a few others.

I am enjoying buying and riding more of the old stock decks too, just because I am more comfortable on BBS wood, as there is still a lot around, but at some point it will become harder to get hold of or there just will not be quite as many DLX BBS boards out there as there used to be even a year ago.

Really, the main thing is looking at the warning sticker and placement.  A sticker right in the middle of bolts and no I, II, III or IV stamp, the deck is most likely going to be a board from China, as well as saying "Made in China" if you can see the fine print on pics from online shops, but one of those numerals stamped in the middle of the front bolts and the warning sticker above that is always going to be BBS and will have "Made in Mexico" on the sticker.  This has helped some people identify decks even with bad or fuzzy pics of the top of the boards.


Compared to some other brands, who do have either one or the other woodshops available, I get the impression that there is not a choice so much as there is information provided for pre books with which woodshop is used for said products in every drop, so from a shop perspective, I might know a little more about all the details than the average skater out there, but really I think the main thing is there are options for the buyer. 

Some people I know will really only skate BBS boards, to which I direct them to the Antihero Eagles or Real Ovals or some specific older stock, while others have completely converted to the China made boards, to which I direct them to the current drops and new graphics more than anything else, so it really is a personal choice as to which boards you prefer, or whether or not you can get something you like, over something that is not quite what you want.  Almost all the shapes are available on both woodshop boards still too, but Tru Fit is a new one for China wood, to me anyway.

Being able to see the top of a board, either in person or a pic of it from a shop, at least you can make up your own mind about it, more so than taking a guess and hoping for the best.  It is also a safe bet that anything from a current drop you see from socials is the new China wood here in AU, with the BBS wood getting here in about three or more months after it was released in the DLX catalog / brand website.

I can even list relevant links to check out what people are posting if you didn't know - at least some shops are good at putting up videos and info on the new boards out, as well as our local distribution Instagram for all the latest info, like this one for starters:

https://www.instagram.com/projectdist/



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I wouldn’t mind trying a China made DLX board if it has concave similar to a BBS II. Seems like the best of both worlds

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I wouldn’t mind trying a China made DLX board if it has concave similar to a BBS II. Seems like the best of both worlds
i wish they were closer to II, i find they are 3/4 and thats too flat for me. canada seemingly only gets china dlx except for eagles.

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I wouldn’t mind trying a China made DLX board if it has concave similar to a BBS II. Seems like the best of both worlds
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i wish they were closer to II, i find they are 3/4 and thats too flat for me. canada seemingly only gets china dlx except for eagles.

That’s a bummer. III/IV is too flat for me too.. idk if it’s just bad luck, but I haven’t been able to find I/IIs for awhile now

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I wouldn’t mind trying a China made DLX board if it has concave similar to a BBS II. Seems like the best of both worlds
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i wish they were closer to II, i find they are 3/4 and thats too flat for me. canada seemingly only gets china dlx except for eagles.

Agree with this. I do enjoy the China decks as they are crispy, poppy and long-lasting, but I wish they had a tiny bit more concave on them.

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I wouldn’t mind trying a China made DLX board if it has concave similar to a BBS II. Seems like the best of both worlds

everything sounds interesting, but how much is the impact on the prices?
there will be some new prices (lower) coming in?

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I wouldn’t mind trying a China made DLX board if it has concave similar to a BBS II. Seems like the best of both worlds
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everything sounds interesting, but how much is the impact on the prices?
there will be some new prices (lower) coming in?
My guess is that they will keep the prices but at the same time making more profit.
Regarding Chinese made boards, time ago I had a Chinese Primitive and it was one of the best boards I had in a really long time.
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I wouldn’t mind trying a China made DLX board if it has concave similar to a BBS II. Seems like the best of both worlds
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i wish they were closer to II, i find they are 3/4 and thats too flat for me. canada seemingly only gets china dlx except for eagles.
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That’s a bummer. III/IV is too flat for me too.. idk if it’s just bad luck, but I haven’t been able to find I/IIs for awhile now


Yeah some people have said they were between II and III but really I think it is just down to personal preference as to whether they work for you or not.

I also wonder if the different shapes have any different feel, besides the much longer boards, as the 8.75 boards do feel steeper side to side, compared to the same 8.75 shape from BBS.

The 8.86 and the 9.0 were crazy steep across the board and don't even get me started on the 10" Horse Pill, but the 8.38 felt pretty mellow, the 8.5 pretty good and the 8.75 a bit steep maybe.


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I wouldn’t mind trying a China made DLX board if it has concave similar to a BBS II. Seems like the best of both worlds
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everything sounds interesting, but how much is the impact on the prices?
there will be some new prices (lower) coming in?
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My guess is that they will keep the prices but at the same time making more profit.
Regarding Chinese made boards, time ago I had a Chinese Primitive and it was one of the best boards I had in a really long time.


In AU, boards before 2020 were fluctuating between AU$100 to $120 or so.  Then they were going up $130, $140 even $150 or more on the BBS wood, but the China made boards were staying around $120 to $130. 

Now in 2025 the average BBS board is about AU$160 to $180 and the China boards are $130 to $140 so it is still a significant price difference, or enough for some people to not buy the BBS versions.

For reference, all pro boards are upwards of $150 each now, on average in the top skate shops.


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Are the Easy Rider decks BBS China made too?

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Are the Easy Rider decks BBS China made too?


Easy Riders are only made in Mexico at the BBS woodshop.

Same with DBX boards.
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I wouldn’t mind trying a China made DLX board if it has concave similar to a BBS II. Seems like the best of both worlds
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i wish they were closer to II, i find they are 3/4 and thats too flat for me. canada seemingly only gets china dlx except for eagles.
8.25 China made true fit mold. Also flatter than BBS one. Here in EU it's hard to find BBS DLX boards.

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I wouldn’t mind trying a China made DLX board if it has concave similar to a BBS II. Seems like the best of both worlds
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i wish they were closer to II, i find they are 3/4 and thats too flat for me. canada seemingly only gets china dlx except for eagles.
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8.25 China made true fit mold. Also flatter than BBS one. Here in EU it's hard to find BBS DLX boards.


In EU you can find a lot of BBS decks
Like Polar,Passport,Magenta Theories etc,
Also (here in Italy( a few shops still having stock of DLX BBS

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I wouldn’t mind trying a China made DLX board if it has concave similar to a BBS II. Seems like the best of both worlds
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i wish they were closer to II, i find they are 3/4 and thats too flat for me. canada seemingly only gets china dlx except for eagles.
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8.25 China made true fit mold. Also flatter than BBS one. Here in EU it's hard to find BBS DLX boards.

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In EU you can find a lot of BBS decks
Like Polar,Passport,Magenta Theories etc,
Also (here in Italy( a few shops still having stock of DLX BBS
I was about to say the same. At least here in CZ Antihero are still BBS but probably is more on the old stock side.
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Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2025 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
« Reply #2092 on: September 01, 2025, 07:05:19 PM »
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everything sounds interesting, but how much is the impact on the prices?
there will be some new prices (lower) coming in?
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My guess is that they will keep the prices but at the same time making more profit.
Regarding Chinese made boards, time ago I had a Chinese Primitive and it was one of the best boards I had in a really long time.

I don’t understand everything with tariffs and whatnot, but here in the states, China made decks have gone up in price overall. The last batch of Crail decks are all $80 which is crazy cus they were priced at $60 for the longest time

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Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2025 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
« Reply #2093 on: September 12, 2025, 10:53:45 AM »
I am told WKND is now done by BBS, I noticed still listed as PS Stix. anyone confirm this?

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« Reply #2094 on: September 12, 2025, 02:08:50 PM »
I am told WKND is now done by BBS, I noticed still listed as PS Stix. anyone confirm this?


I was thinking about this the other day, but didn't want to actually put something down yet.  Maybe it was more like a month ago now.

Any which way, I was going to just remove the PS Stix listing and put ? ? ? ? ? in there instead now, but thought I should maybe wait and see what comes out of the PS Stix to OK Manufacturing move.


Safe to say there is no more PS Stix, but it was also said that most of the brands had jumped ship to other woodshops in the lead up to or during the closure and subsequent move.

I could go over that list and see what actually changed that we know of, but I just didn't have the time and really didn't know quite what I might find when I did start going over the list.



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I am told WKND is now done by BBS, I noticed still listed as PS Stix. anyone confirm this?
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I was thinking about this the other day, but didn't want to actually put something down yet.  Maybe it was more like a month ago now.

Any which way, I was going to just remove the PS Stix listing and put ? ? ? ? ? in there instead now, but thought I should maybe wait and see what comes out of the PS Stix to OK Manufacturing move.


Safe to say there is no more PS Stix, but it was also said that most of the brands had jumped ship to other woodshops in the lead up to or during the closure and subsequent move.

I could go over that list and see what actually changed that we know of, but I just didn't have the time and really didn't know quite what I might find when I did start going over the list.
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« Reply #2096 on: September 13, 2025, 03:29:27 PM »
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I am told WKND is now done by BBS, I noticed still listed as PS Stix. anyone confirm this?
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I was thinking about this the other day, but didn't want to actually put something down yet.  Maybe it was more like a month ago now.

Any which way, I was going to just remove the PS Stix listing and put ? ? ? ? ? in there instead now, but thought I should maybe wait and see what comes out of the PS Stix to OK Manufacturing move.


Safe to say there is no more PS Stix, but it was also said that most of the brands had jumped ship to other woodshops in the lead up to or during the closure and subsequent move.

I could go over that list and see what actually changed that we know of, but I just didn't have the time and really didn't know quite what I might find when I did start going over the list.
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Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2025 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
« Reply #2097 on: September 14, 2025, 12:07:53 AM »
I am told WKND is now done by BBS, I noticed still listed as PS Stix. anyone confirm this?

I DM’d Tom K awhile back and he confirmed that WKND moved to BBS. I still see old PS WKND decks for sale online, so be aware. Also IIRC decks are all longer now cus Paul measures doesn’t measure straight across. Ex: the old 8.25CT shape was listed as 31.625” long, but measured ~31.3”, and the new 8.25WB shape is actually 31.625”

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« Reply #2098 on: September 14, 2025, 05:17:32 AM »
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I DM’d Tom K awhile back and he confirmed that WKND moved to BBS. I still see old PS WKND decks for sale online, so be aware. Also IIRC decks are all longer now cus Paul measures doesn’t measure straight across. Ex: the old 8.25CT shape was listed as 31.625” long, but measured ~31.3”, and the new 8.25WB shape is actually 31.625”


I think because there are still a lot of PS Stix boards out there, I didn't want to change to much info right away on the main page listings, but maybe it is time to add an extra ** to all the PS Stix listings now.

Already I think a few of the boards I have seen have been different measurements in the change from PS Stix to BBS, or at least not just in overall length, but some seem to be different shapes entirely.

I need to look into it a bit more, but I think here in AU there are a lot of older boards still and not a lot of newer ones to check until the latest drops arrive, which is often months after they are out in USA.


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Re: CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2025 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc
« Reply #2099 on: September 14, 2025, 09:34:04 AM »
Rassvet and Quasi are all BBS now