Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ

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"It feels like colonialism in 2022." - 28-Year-old LA nepo baby after asking for seven hundred thousand dollars from a fifteen-year-old for his skateboarding clips and then having that made into a tee.

you can't make this up folks.

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What do you mean dude it's exactly the same as King Leopold in the Congo.

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Mikey guest board on $lave incoming

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All bangers, gnars for all.

I can't even imagine how i would feel if i was a sane person of color and heard this polo wearing, LA living, privileged ass dork saying shit like this. He's acting like extorting children and making his shitty drawings is some form of fighting oppression.

Why don't you go actually help someone Mr. Alfredo?

I don't think Mikey knows the actual definition of colonialism. It comes across as a buzzword that he heard being used by someone he perceives as smart.

[Lowcalcium]

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"It feels like colonialism in 2022." - 28-Year-old LA nepo baby after asking for seven hundred thousand dollars from a fifteen-year-old for his skateboarding clips and then having that made into a tee.

you can't make this up folks.

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What do you mean dude it's exactly the same as King Leopold in the Congo.

King Leopold's Ghost is an incredible book to read if you want to learn more about the Congolese Genocide. Historians don't know the exact figure of atrocities, but most speculate that at least 5-10 million people died between 1885 and 1908. 

I also speculate, that Mr. Alfred has no idea what he's talking about when he mentions Colonialism.

[ice nine]

tyler warren on ic

[ShitNuts]

King Leopold's Ghost is an incredible book to read if you want to learn more about the Congolese Genocide. Historians don't know the exact figure of atrocities, but most speculate that at least 5-10 million people died between 1885 and 1908. 

I also speculate, that Mr. Alfred has no idea what he's talking about when he mentions Colonialism.

Looks like a great read, cheers for the recommendation.

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kevin white trying to drag gifted hater over any of this,
while still simping for mikey alfred is next level kook shit

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I guess it makes sense if Kevin knows that Mikey is going through some bad mental struggles. Bad situation for everybody

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I can understand his position as well. Your homie is fucking up big time but you also know he's struggling, but you don't want your money to get fucked up because your boy can't log off

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I think Kevin of all people knows how indebted he is to Mikey cause without him he’d be working a grill. But he also does come off as a generally very nice and caring guy so it probably sucks to watch his friend go full loco. And kinda having to chose sides when the dudes who can pay you next are beefing with the dude who was paying you before.

By working a grill do you mean pro for FA?

[bigbevev]

tyler warren on ic

Wish i could gnar lmao

[fakie nollie]

I feel like if you lock b***k and Mikey in a room for 8 hours, both will self destruct

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"It feels like colonialism in 2022." - 28-Year-old LA nepo baby after asking for seven hundred thousand dollars from a fifteen-year-old for his skateboarding clips and then having that made into a tee.

you can't make this up folks.

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Mikey guest board on $lave incoming

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Hard Luck packages also on the way.

It's also pretty ironic that if he would have supported and put on a team of non-white skaters in the first place (if he's phrasing this as an attack on a black-owned business you would think that he would have wanted to do so all along) he wouldn't even be able to make this argument right now at all.

[HeapsCool]

Back to the original topic, I don’t think we can underestimate Tyshawn’s influence on skateboarding these days.

[Lame_Nigga]

Has there ever been a grown man who goes by Mikey that isn’t just the worst?

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Has there ever been a grown man who goes by Mikey that isn’t just the worst?

the kid from the goonies was cool.

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Has there ever been a grown man who goes by Mikey that isn’t just the worst?

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the kid from the goonies was cool.

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Has there ever been a grown man who goes by Mikey that isn’t just the worst?

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the kid from the goonies was cool.

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he’s grown now & super rich. remember all the gold they found? do you think he changed it to mike or michael? he probably did, he seemed level headed. okay you guys are right.

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I walk past the bronze statue. Wow. I’m here so quickly. I’m wearing a sticker with my name on it. You’re in New York. Look at me. I’m on a horse.

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I think it sounds like lines of dialogue from a Cormac McCarthy novel.

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Bret Easton ellis

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Both are excellent authors; Blood Meridian and American Psycho are my favorite from each.

Blood Meridian is fantastic but I prefer all the Border trilogy books. They are a little less abstract and made me feel like maybe I should try to be more like a stoic cowboy.
I read American Psycho 20 years ago while I was working overnight shifts in a petrol station in the middle of nowhere, wonderful though  very disturbing read. I read somewhere it used to be sold in shrink wrap like a porno because it's content was so upsetting, pretty funny.

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I walk past the bronze statue. Wow. I’m here so quickly. I’m wearing a sticker with my name on it. You’re in New York. Look at me. I’m on a horse.

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I think it sounds like lines of dialogue from a Cormac McCarthy novel.

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Bret Easton ellis

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Both are excellent authors; Blood Meridian and American Psycho are my favorite from each.

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Blood Meridian is fantastic but I prefer all the Border trilogy books. They are a little less abstract and made me feel like maybe I should try to be more like a stoic cowboy.
I read American Psycho 20 years ago while I was working overnight shifts in a petrol station in the middle of nowhere, wonderful though  very disturbing read. I read somewhere it used to be sold in shrink wrap like a porno because it's content was so upsetting, pretty funny.

Cormac has two coming out this December, fyi

If you want good old fashioned cowboy shit, Lonesome Dove is perhaps my favorite book (I’m a big McMurtry fan and would defend all 4 in the series - one of the first two with the Rangers being hunted by Indians on the open plain is the stuff of nightmares)

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I walk past the bronze statue. Wow. I’m here so quickly. I’m wearing a sticker with my name on it. You’re in New York. Look at me. I’m on a horse.

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I think it sounds like lines of dialogue from a Cormac McCarthy novel.

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Bret Easton ellis

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Both are excellent authors; Blood Meridian and American Psycho are my favorite from each.

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Blood Meridian is fantastic but I prefer all the Border trilogy books. They are a little less abstract and made me feel like maybe I should try to be more like a stoic cowboy.
I read American Psycho 20 years ago while I was working overnight shifts in a petrol station in the middle of nowhere, wonderful though  very disturbing read. I read somewhere it used to be sold in shrink wrap like a porno because it's content was so upsetting, pretty funny.

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Cormac has two coming out this December, fyi

If you want good old fashioned cowboy shit, Lonesome Dove is perhaps my favorite book (I’m a big McMurtry fan and would defend all 4 in the series - one of the first two with the Rangers being hunted by Indians on the open plain is the stuff of nightmares)

Thanks for the recommendation, I really like cowboy books but was somehow unaware of this series. I will definitely check them out.

[europa1991]

Not a cowboy book but speaking of McMurty, The Desert Rose is truly one of his best novels.. Very underrated and at one point was gonna be adapted into a Terrence Malick movie.

[Atiba Applebum]

Not a cowboy book but speaking of McMurty, The Desert Rose is truly one of his best novels.. Very underrated and at one point was gonna be adapted into a Terrence Malick movie.

I’ll check it out.  Was just about to start Moving On and give Terms of Endearment a go.    Also, highly recommend the trilogy that had Last Picture Show and the book Paul Newmans Hud was adapted from (also the movie is so good and it’s fun to watch Newman’s personal charisma fight against his characters deplorableness

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Revisiting the Jenkem interview, when Rob Mattox was asked about the original crew leaving he mentioned:

"The only thing he [Mikey] told me was that the other guys pretty much made it in skating and he was trying to bring a new crew together."

Perhaps Mikey is trying to rebrand the IC business model to be more akin to Termites? Little kid drawings for a little kid brand seems like a no-brainer, could even have the riders do their own graphics and pay them with Happy Meals. Maybe their art would be close to or as good as Mikey's.

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Revisiting the Jenkem interview, when Rob Mattox was asked about the original crew leaving he mentioned:

"The only thing he [Mikey] told me was that the other guys pretty much made it in skating and he was trying to bring a new crew together."

Perhaps Mikey is trying to rebrand the IC business model to be more akin to Termites? Little kid drawings for a little kid brand seems like a no-brainer, could even have the riders do their own graphics and pay them with Happy Meals. Maybe their art would be close to or as good as Mikey's.

That's pretty mean of you to think everyone is THAT unskilled. Most drawings on school desks were better than Alfredo's bullshit.

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Lol @ Kevin White and them defending the smoking weed with kids

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Lol @ Kevin White and them defending the smoking weed with kids

I swear that dude is only in the mix because he's big and has a nice smile.

His skating isn't good or interesting, and he seems a little dumb, albeit nice.

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Lol @ Kevin White and them defending the smoking weed with kids

That rubbed me the wrong way as well. I'll admit that I definitely smoked weed with adults at the skatepark when I was underage, but it was never on camera or anything. It was kind of known that it wasn't ok to make that shit public. In hindsight, it was definitely reckless and sketchy for adults to be giving weed to teenagers at the skatepark, even though these spaces have always been sort of a free for all. With that being said, its weird to see him openly defending this behavior to the skateboarding community at large. In my opinion, he should have refrained from commenting on that part of the situation.

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Lol @ Kevin White and them defending the smoking weed with kids

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I swear that dude is only in the mix because he's big and has a nice smile.

His skating isn't good or interesting, and he seems a little dumb, albeit nice.

The majority of clips of him are him drinking or smoking or drinking and smoking. His skating is super clumsy and the opposite of big man grace.

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Lol @ Kevin White and them defending the smoking weed with kids

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I swear that dude is only in the mix because he's big and has a nice smile.

His skating isn't good or interesting, and he seems a little dumb, albeit nice.

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The majority of clips of him are him drinking or smoking or drinking and smoking. His skating is super clumsy and the opposite of big man grace.

Yea I don't enjoy it at all, horrible style, and a generally bad trick selection. I've never understood how he got put on for any other reason than being a homie.

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Mikey

What happened to the original IC team? Are you still friends with them?
The original team, everyone was getting paid out of a bucket of money essentially, and when that ran out, then it became like, well now sales have to pay the salaries. They never caught up,

Mikey

Where did you get that initial amount of money to pay everyone?
Man, I mean IC, a lot of people hate on it, but it’s successful bro.

Kevin

Everybody needs to work in unity to make this shit happen, not just Mikey asking us to promote, promote, promote. It’s skating and everyone understands that we have to promote this, it’s not just on us. He’s saying our board is selling like dogshit and he’s telling that to fans behind our backs.

Why weren't IC boards selling?  it couldn't have just been the shit graphics. Lamer brands still sell boards. How is the brand successful but also not moving product?

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i like how he ignored the question. we all know it came from a trust fund

[manysnakes]

i like how he ignored the question. we all know it came from a trust fund

Yeah, I feel like the obvious subtext to everything here is that Mikey had a bunch of money he got from somewhere which he used to pay notable skaters to be his friends and now that the money is gone everyone has bounced.

[Coastal Fever]

I’m curious exactly who’s gonna be on TJ’s company.  Could see Zach and Nak, because they objectively rip.. but with all the shit TJ talks about dudes with “weak ass footage”.. you guys think he’s gonna put on Kev or anyone else who doesn’t live up to his exceptionally high standards?

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i like how he ignored the question. we all know it came from a trust fund

Right... he literally said "sales weren't strong enough to pay the riders" and then followed that up immediately with "IC is successful believe it or not"