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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #1380 on: August 04, 2023, 12:59:23 PM »
I consider the Krooked Manderson shape pretty much perfect. Dimensions, shape of nose and tail, steepness. Feels about right. For those of you that appreciate this board, what are your favorite alternatives when this one isn’t around?

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #1381 on: August 04, 2023, 01:09:12 PM »
Came here for someone to tell me I'm tripping and it's all good. I've been having deck size madness lately. I'm 6'2" with size 13 squatch feet, and for the past 2 years I've been on 8.25s, stacking up any I find on sale, but my feet hang over on both sides, which doesn't bother me on tricks, I really only think about it when I'm looking at a new deck to set up. I recently copped a few 8.38s and like it, but feel I need to go to 8.5. I skate pretty much all terrain. I listened to Shecks nine club, and dude was saying hes got like size 10 shoes on a 9" board because of the same madness. No way I'm going to 9", and my thought process is that back in the day guys would ride 7.75 decks with size 13 kicks no problem. Sorry for the long coffee fueled post, I just want to be satisfied with my setup, without longing for something else.
i have the same size foot skating 8.75-9.25
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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #1382 on: August 04, 2023, 02:17:45 PM »
Came here for someone to tell me I'm tripping and it's all good. I've been having deck size madness lately. I'm 6'2" with size 13 squatch feet, and for the past 2 years I've been on 8.25s, stacking up any I find on sale, but my feet hang over on both sides, which doesn't bother me on tricks, I really only think about it when I'm looking at a new deck to set up. I recently copped a few 8.38s and like it, but feel I need to go to 8.5. I skate pretty much all terrain. I listened to Shecks nine club, and dude was saying hes got like size 10 shoes on a 9" board because of the same madness. No way I'm going to 9", and my thought process is that back in the day guys would ride 7.75 decks with size 13 kicks no problem. Sorry for the long coffee fueled post, I just want to be satisfied with my setup, without longing for something else.

I'm 6ft5 size 13 and skate 8.5. Dont ever feel the need to go bigger, and can skate an 8.25 just fine as long as the kicks aren't too pointy. Mostly ledges rails curbs and flat though. If I skated more transition or something probably would wanna stick to the 8.5 side of things but never feel limited by board size relative to my foot.

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #1383 on: August 04, 2023, 04:04:31 PM »
My current madness is that I feel the need to keep skating my thunders down to the axle, but there's no kingpin clearance anymore and it sucks. They would be my first set to get down all the way. Been skating them for about two years (no slappies), on a symmetrical board so they should be axled right around the same time at the same spots. Not sure if the crook or 5050/5-0/smith/feeble spot is going to axle first.

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #1384 on: August 04, 2023, 04:32:42 PM »
My current madness is that I feel the need to keep skating my thunders down to the axle, but there's no kingpin clearance anymore and it sucks. They would be my first set to get down all the way. Been skating them for about two years (no slappies), on a symmetrical board so they should be axled right around the same time at the same spots. Not sure if the crook or 5050/5-0/smith/feeble spot is going to axle first.

That’s the real cure for truck madness. Would love to see those grooves.

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #1385 on: August 04, 2023, 06:57:10 PM »
My current madness is that I feel the need to keep skating my thunders down to the axle, but there's no kingpin clearance anymore and it sucks. They would be my first set to get down all the way. Been skating them for about two years (no slappies), on a symmetrical board so they should be axled right around the same time at the same spots. Not sure if the crook or 5050/5-0/smith/feeble spot is going to axle first.


I had cut down the top bushings on quite a few setups to then get the kingpin nut down lower to give more clearance on various setups, for myself and others.  For the most part, everything worked fine for the people and their boards until they did eventually break through the axle or retire them, with only one person I can recall saying it felt weird or didn't work for them.  Others on here have done the same thing too.

Angle grinding down the kingpin itself once the nut is on and in the right place for truck tightness was the only other thing I would often do, some more than others, but again that is just prolonging the life of a set of trucks, before retiring to a cruiser board, passing on to someone else who wasn't so concerned about kingpin clearance or whatever.


My madness is to make anything and everything last as long as possible for anyone, be it the original owner of the skateboard part or fixing it with the view to passing it on to someone who can make the most of it, eg a lot of beginners / kids would enjoy well worn trucks and never really worry about kingpin clearance, or still skate a cracked deck or whatever like that too.

I totally get where you are at though - just want to feel the acomplishment of getting trucks to axle but not wanting to catch kingpin or have issues / slams from it too.

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #1386 on: August 05, 2023, 07:18:11 AM »
nowadays i'd rather not go to the axel but piece the old trucks with other old parts and give away a whole set up.....

I'm not sure what's happened to me....

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #1387 on: August 06, 2023, 03:08:18 PM »
As the OP several accounts later: Gripping over your bolts is a game changer if you have truck madness.

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #1388 on: August 06, 2023, 04:23:13 PM »
As the OP several accounts later: Gripping over your bolts is a game changer if you have truck madness.

Gamechanger in a bad way?
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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #1389 on: August 06, 2023, 04:35:36 PM »
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As the OP several accounts later: Gripping over your bolts is a game changer if you have truck madness.
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Gamechanger in a bad way?

No, it's great. It makes it way too much trouble to try and impulsively swap out trucks.

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #1390 on: August 06, 2023, 05:48:09 PM »
I have a twin board that I'm getting more life out of than normal combined with some street skating, I finally went ahead and regripped it.

Because I cross grip into three pieces, they came off super easy and I did it with the trucks still on.  At that point, I thought real hard about just gripping over.....

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #1391 on: August 07, 2023, 05:52:18 AM »
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As the OP several accounts later: Gripping over your bolts is a game changer if you have truck madness.
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Gamechanger in a bad way?
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No, it's great. It makes it way too much trouble to try and impulsively swap out trucks.
How so? If the grip holds the bolts, you don't even need a screwdriver to change your trucks.

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #1392 on: August 07, 2023, 06:01:40 AM »
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As the OP several accounts later: Gripping over your bolts is a game changer if you have truck madness.
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Gamechanger in a bad way?
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No, it's great. It makes it way too much trouble to try and impulsively swap out trucks.
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How so? If the grip holds the bolts, you don't even need a screwdriver to change your trucks.

I know you are trolling, but anyone who would consider doing that and riding titty twistered grip like that is sick and needs to be put down.

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #1393 on: August 07, 2023, 06:16:16 AM »
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As the OP several accounts later: Gripping over your bolts is a game changer if you have truck madness.
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Gamechanger in a bad way?
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No, it's great. It makes it way too much trouble to try and impulsively swap out trucks.
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How so? If the grip holds the bolts, you don't even need a screwdriver to change your trucks.
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I know you are trolling, but anyone who would consider doing that and riding titty twistered grip like that is sick and needs to be put down.

Don’t kink shame

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #1394 on: August 07, 2023, 06:27:21 AM »
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As the OP several accounts later: Gripping over your bolts is a game changer if you have truck madness.
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Gamechanger in a bad way?
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No, it's great. It makes it way too much trouble to try and impulsively swap out trucks.
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How so? If the grip holds the bolts, you don't even need a screwdriver to change your trucks.
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I know you are trolling, but anyone who would consider doing that and riding titty twistered grip like that is sick and needs to be put down.
Not trolling, that actually works. Neither grip nor bolt will move if you carefully tighten/loosen the nut using only a skate tool. At least it worked with mob some years ago

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #1395 on: August 07, 2023, 06:33:12 AM »
Grip over bolts is objectively insane.

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #1396 on: August 07, 2023, 08:28:44 AM »
Stevie does it…..what do you think his exit strategy is? 

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #1397 on: August 14, 2023, 05:42:33 AM »
Help me skater friends .. I'm back in the infernal madness but this time with a little more personal psychology.. Indeed, I bought a pair of independent hollows 139 on an 8, and I loved the first 2 sessions .. until a bad session .. And there I
say that I should never have bought this, that it would be better with such or such brand of trucks .. honestly I tried almost everything .. I am small, and I even also tried a wheelbase 14 with my venture raw high that I skated now for a year and 3 months until the change with the independents.. and with these recent bad sessions, I tell myself that I should have taken low trucks, that it would surely be better.. . I fell into a vicious circle and a negative mentality.. I've been skating for 16 years, I'm 31, and sometimes.. my sessions are fabulous, or I think skateboarding is fun and that's it.. and sometimes back to reality, or I don't master basic tricks, like the Kickflip which I've had a problem with for 10 years now.. I sometimes feel useless, this is also the lack of confidence.. I find also that I have an awful style .. In short, to admit to you .. I have the BIG fault of me unfortunately compare to others..

Why are you talking about this with the truck madness too? Because I would like to get back the fun I had before when I didn't think about those fucking parameters (high/low trucks, length, wheelbase..), but.. I think the craziness will be everywhere for me from now on. (I also reassure myself by telling myself that Reynolds or Degros also have it ahaha). Sorry for these personal confidences, but I love skateboarding so much, and feeling useless in your passion is horrible .. Yet I have a relatively good directory of tricks in flatground, I put almost all the rotations, but a little badly on some flip tricks..

 I want to say that it's not a death either and that the importance is to ride and have fun without asking questions.. I know that my lack of confidence has surely blocked my progress.. In my early years skating, I was made fun of a lot about my style, I think I started off with a negative mentality and that must have played a part.. I have one last question for you, despite the madness, honestly, does the setup have an influence on our progress and on the tricks ?

Thank you in advance for your answers skater friends.. I didn't dare to talk about it, but I think that opening up to the world and discussing your resentment for your passion for skateboarding does not hurt..


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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #1398 on: August 14, 2023, 06:10:56 AM »
Help me skater friends .. I'm back in the infernal madness but this time with a little more personal psychology.. Indeed, I bought a pair of independent hollows 139 on an 8, and I loved the first 2 sessions .. until a bad session .. And there I
say that I should never have bought this, that it would be better with such or such brand of trucks .. honestly I tried almost everything .. I am small, and I even also tried a wheelbase 14 with my venture raw high that I skated now for a year and 3 months until the change with the independents.. and with these recent bad sessions, I tell myself that I should have taken low trucks, that it would surely be better.. . I fell into a vicious circle and a negative mentality.. I've been skating for 16 years, I'm 31, and sometimes.. my sessions are fabulous, or I think skateboarding is fun and that's it.. and sometimes back to reality, or I don't master basic tricks, like the Kickflip which I've had a problem with for 10 years now.. I sometimes feel useless, this is also the lack of confidence.. I find also that I have an awful style .. In short, to admit to you .. I have the BIG fault of me unfortunately compare to others..

Why are you talking about this with the truck madness too? Because I would like to get back the fun I had before when I didn't think about those fucking parameters (high/low trucks, length, wheelbase..), but.. I think the craziness will be everywhere for me from now on. (I also reassure myself by telling myself that Reynolds or Degros also have it ahaha). Sorry for these personal confidences, but I love skateboarding so much, and feeling useless in your passion is horrible .. Yet I have a relatively good directory of tricks in flatground, I put almost all the rotations, but a little badly on some flip tricks..

 I want to say that it's not a death either and that the importance is to ride and have fun without asking questions.. I know that my lack of confidence has surely blocked my progress.. In my early years skating, I was made fun of a lot about my style, I think I started off with a negative mentality and that must have played a part.. I have one last question for you, despite the madness, honestly, does the setup have an influence on our progress and on the tricks ?

Thank you in advance for your answers skater friends.. I didn't dare to talk about it, but I think that opening up to the world and discussing your resentment for your passion for skateboarding does not hurt..
Just go back to what you've been riding most of the time in those 16 years you skated. That might be the only way out of this. Stick to one setup that worked great in the past. You've been posting the same problem for months now, it's time to stop thinking about gear and actually skate. Don't do this to yourself. But if you do, I don't think anyone on slap can help you, but therapy might. And this isn't an insult, absolutely everbody could gain a lot by going to therapy. I sure did

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #1399 on: August 14, 2023, 06:16:50 AM »
Help me skater friends .. I'm back in the infernal madness but this time with a little more personal psychology.. Indeed, I bought a pair of independent hollows 139 on an 8, and I loved the first 2 sessions .. until a bad session .. And there I
say that I should never have bought this, that it would be better with such or such brand of trucks .. honestly I tried almost everything .. I am small, and I even also tried a wheelbase 14 with my venture raw high that I skated now for a year and 3 months until the change with the independents.. and with these recent bad sessions, I tell myself that I should have taken low trucks, that it would surely be better.. . I fell into a vicious circle and a negative mentality.. I've been skating for 16 years, I'm 31, and sometimes.. my sessions are fabulous, or I think skateboarding is fun and that's it.. and sometimes back to reality, or I don't master basic tricks, like the Kickflip which I've had a problem with for 10 years now.. I sometimes feel useless, this is also the lack of confidence.. I find also that I have an awful style .. In short, to admit to you .. I have the BIG fault of me unfortunately compare to others..

Why are you talking about this with the truck madness too? Because I would like to get back the fun I had before when I didn't think about those fucking parameters (high/low trucks, length, wheelbase..), but.. I think the craziness will be everywhere for me from now on. (I also reassure myself by telling myself that Reynolds or Degros also have it ahaha). Sorry for these personal confidences, but I love skateboarding so much, and feeling useless in your passion is horrible .. Yet I have a relatively good directory of tricks in flatground, I put almost all the rotations, but a little badly on some flip tricks..

 I want to say that it's not a death either and that the importance is to ride and have fun without asking questions.. I know that my lack of confidence has surely blocked my progress.. In my early years skating, I was made fun of a lot about my style, I think I started off with a negative mentality and that must have played a part.. I have one last question for you, despite the madness, honestly, does the setup have an influence on our progress and on the tricks ?

Thank you in advance for your answers skater friends.. I didn't dare to talk about it, but I think that opening up to the world and discussing your resentment for your passion for skateboarding does not hurt..

Honestly, the most important thing is to have fun for me. While progressing is fun in it's own way, being way too in your head about random stuff like your style and bag of tricks isn't. Some sessions are good, some are better, and other are just horrible, and that's OK.

I'm definitely not the best skater in my town, but whenever I go, I have fun. That's all that matters for me. I like to go fast, do the tricks I can do as well as I can, and work on some tricks I think I could get, which doesn't always work out.

I always see dudes who are really freaking good at skating freak tf out, getting super mad because they didn't land their crazy flip in/flip out trick or something, and they don't look like they're having the best time. Unless you get paid to skate, there's no reason to take it this seriously. On the contrary, I spend a shit ton of money on skate stuff, so I might as well enjoy it otherwise what's the point?

As for your question about "does the setup have an effect on your progress", I'd say changing your setup constantly is gonna have a negative effect on your progress for sure, while getting to know your own setup and adjusting to it is gonna make everything much easier, at least for me. There is no mystical, magical setup that's gonna make someone a better skater, otherwise everyone would be skating the same shit. It's all about preference, influence and the type of skating you do.

In short: have fun and don't be too hard on yourself. Just go skate.

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #1400 on: August 14, 2023, 06:23:06 AM »
Help me skater friends .. I'm back in the infernal madness but this time with a little more personal psychology.. Indeed, I bought a pair of independent hollows 139 on an 8, and I loved the first 2 sessions .. until a bad session .. And there I
say that I should never have bought this, that it would be better with such or such brand of trucks .. honestly I tried almost everything .. I am small, and I even also tried a wheelbase 14 with my venture raw high that I skated now for a year and 3 months until the change with the independents.. and with these recent bad sessions, I tell myself that I should have taken low trucks, that it would surely be better.. . I fell into a vicious circle and a negative mentality.. I've been skating for 16 years, I'm 31, and sometimes.. my sessions are fabulous, or I think skateboarding is fun and that's it.. and sometimes back to reality, or I don't master basic tricks, like the Kickflip which I've had a problem with for 10 years now.. I sometimes feel useless, this is also the lack of confidence.. I find also that I have an awful style .. In short, to admit to you .. I have the BIG fault of me unfortunately compare to others..

Why are you talking about this with the truck madness too? Because I would like to get back the fun I had before when I didn't think about those fucking parameters (high/low trucks, length, wheelbase..), but.. I think the craziness will be everywhere for me from now on. (I also reassure myself by telling myself that Reynolds or Degros also have it ahaha). Sorry for these personal confidences, but I love skateboarding so much, and feeling useless in your passion is horrible .. Yet I have a relatively good directory of tricks in flatground, I put almost all the rotations, but a little badly on some flip tricks..

 I want to say that it's not a death either and that the importance is to ride and have fun without asking questions.. I know that my lack of confidence has surely blocked my progress.. In my early years skating, I was made fun of a lot about my style, I think I started off with a negative mentality and that must have played a part.. I have one last question for you, despite the madness, honestly, does the setup have an influence on our progress and on the tricks ?

Thank you in advance for your answers skater friends.. I didn't dare to talk about it, but I think that opening up to the world and discussing your resentment for your passion for skateboarding does not hurt..

First of all. Mad props that you can talk so open about that. And I totally understand you. I am skating for 20 years now and there are days, where I feel absolutely terrible about my skills (check my signature under my post if you are interested). Anyway, you come off as really passionate and skateboarding is very important to you.

But, bad sessions are a part of that all. We all have those from time to time. We might have these expectations in our head, how we would like to do certain things.
I had a long talk yesterday with my homies, the key is, to let go of these expectations. Try to push yourself BUT always keep it fun. We all tend to be our own worst critic sometimes. That's where my feeling comes from, to never be happy with the things you do. It sucks and I need to work on that mentality.

These are my personal thoughts about that all, others might disagree with me here, but..
The best influence on personal progress is to stick with a specific setup which you feel comfortable on and ride that most of the time. Of course, try different things if you see a reason why you should change something. But no matter what, there just isn't one exact perfect setup for someone. My advice would be, to either stick with the Ventures or the Indys and try different foot placements for example. Ventures and Indys are very different trucks and I personally would tend to the Indys but that is for you to decide where you feel more comfortable. Skateboarding is mad difficult and will always be. Most people on this planet can't even ride one without falling.

Keep your head up mate and remember why you started skating. Because it is the most fun thing in the world.
Much love. <3

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #1401 on: August 14, 2023, 10:30:44 AM »
Stevie does it…..what do you think his exit strategy is?
Set up a brand new complete every time he needs to change trucks because he is Stevie Williams.

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #1402 on: August 14, 2023, 08:59:52 PM »
I think I have a decent antidote to the gear madness now. This week I got nervous about the gear. Over the last years, I've handed down stuff to unemployed friends, but still have few trucks and boards. So, set up a complete, got hyped and built expectations. Then went for a session, which was a complete shitshow. Nothing worked as I wanted. Came back to home, and (here's the antidote) disassembled the complete, put parts back to the box and made a mental note to pass them on.

Doesn't matter if it was just bad luck or bad day or actually because of the setup. I have a proven consistent complete, no need create alternatives to fix something that is not broken.

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #1403 on: August 16, 2023, 11:13:47 AM »
I think I have a decent antidote to the gear madness now. This week I got nervous about the gear. Over the last years, I've handed down stuff to unemployed friends, but still have few trucks and boards. So, set up a complete, got hyped and built expectations. Then went for a session, which was a complete shitshow. Nothing worked as I wanted. Came back to home, and (here's the antidote) disassembled the complete, put parts back to the box and made a mental note to pass them on.

Doesn't matter if it was just bad luck or bad day or actually because of the setup. I have a proven consistent complete, no need create alternatives to fix something that is not broken.

Sitting gear is the worst *looks over at those boxes of trucks and wheels* donating the gear you don't like or use the 6mo rule...if you haven't touched it in 4-6mo ditch it.


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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #1404 on: August 16, 2023, 12:33:31 PM »
My deck got ripped in a collision so I figured why not send the deck to heaven with whatever leftover’s in my fannypack. So I put together a Venture baseplate, stock venture bushing, thunder hanger trio. And it feels so right. immediately my pop is not squirrely like on Royals and I could land bolts way more. The turn was close to a loose Royal too, without the effortlessness. The same bushings turned way better with the thunders than on the vs for some reason. I thought I had to put indy bushings on it to make up for it, but not, it's perfect

I wasn’t looking to ride it this much, but now I might ride it all summer instead of saving it for a winter beater.

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #1405 on: August 17, 2023, 06:26:39 PM »




Just go back to what you've been riding most of the time in those 16 years you skated. That might be the only way out of this. Stick to one setup that worked great in the past. You've been posting the same problem for months now, it's time to stop thinking about gear and actually skate. Don't do this to yourself. But if you do, I don't think anyone on slap can help you, but therapy might. And this isn't an insult, absolutely everbody could gain a lot by going to therapy. I sure did


Honestly, the most important thing is to have fun for me. While progressing is fun in it's own way, being way too in your head about random stuff like your style and bag of tricks isn't. Some sessions are good, some are better, and other are just horrible, and that's OK.

I'm definitely not the best skater in my town, but whenever I go, I have fun. That's all that matters for me. I like to go fast, do the tricks I can do as well as I can, and work on some tricks I think I could get, which doesn't always work out.

I always see dudes who are really freaking good at skating freak tf out, getting super mad because they didn't land their crazy flip in/flip out trick or something, and they don't look like they're having the best time. Unless you get paid to skate, there's no reason to take it this seriously. On the contrary, I spend a shit ton of money on skate stuff, so I might as well enjoy it otherwise what's the point?

As for your question about "does the setup have an effect on your progress", I'd say changing your setup constantly is gonna have a negative effect on your progress for sure, while getting to know your own setup and adjusting to it is gonna make everything much easier, at least for me. There is no mystical, magical setup that's gonna make someone a better skater, otherwise everyone would be skating the same shit. It's all about preference, influence and the type of skating you do.

In short: have fun and don't be too hard on yourself. Just go skate.



First of all. Mad props that you can talk so open about that. And I totally understand you. I am skating for 20 years now and there are days, where I feel absolutely terrible about my skills (check my signature under my post if you are interested). Anyway, you come off as really passionate and skateboarding is very important to you.

But, bad sessions are a part of that all. We all have those from time to time. We might have these expectations in our head, how we would like to do certain things.
I had a long talk yesterday with my homies, the key is, to let go of these expectations. Try to push yourself BUT always keep it fun. We all tend to be our own worst critic sometimes. That's where my feeling comes from, to never be happy with the things you do. It sucks and I need to work on that mentality.

These are my personal thoughts about that all, others might disagree with me here, but..
The best influence on personal progress is to stick with a specific setup which you feel comfortable on and ride that most of the time. Of course, try different things if you see a reason why you should change something. But no matter what, there just isn't one exact perfect setup for someone. My advice would be, to either stick with the Ventures or the Indys and try different foot placements for example. Ventures and Indys are very different trucks and I personally would tend to the Indys but that is for you to decide where you feel more comfortable. Skateboarding is mad difficult and will always be. Most people on this planet can't even ride one without falling.

Keep your head up mate and remember why you started skating. Because it is the most fun thing in the world.
Much love. <3



I read through this the other day when it was posted, but just couldn't reply at the time.

Now reading through it all again and having a minute to reply, I have this to add.


I have seen lots of people come and go in skateboarding, even felt the frustration and anger at myself getting the better of me often enough, even recently when things just didn't work out whatever I was trying, but for some people who are struggling for whatever reason, having a meltdown and breaking their board or taking out their frustrations in other ways, it is only going to make things worse.

I know at times like that I just have to take a breath and even take a break, then either leave whatever it was for a better time, or just find somewhere to roll around without needing to make myself do anything much, even though I might be more keen to try a whole lot more than I should at the time.  Lots of things get to me, be it a bad night sleep, not eating right, or the best one, a negative interaction with my other half (and she knows just the right buttons to push as well) so then if I think I just need to skate and those things are already bugging me, then chances are things are going to go bad, more so than get better.

If something is not working with the board, try to figure out what it is, but don't put too much into it, as in that exact point of a bearing making a little noise, or a truck squeak or whatever else that can send you over the edge, compared to tightening or loosening trucks a little, or something with the shoes or deck getting old, or too new or whatever it is.  Seen people take apart their whole board and rebuild it in the middle of a session, which might have helped but sure did look a bit weird, but whatever works to help take your attention off a specific issue is a good thing to do sometimes.


Having "Gear Madness" is a real thing - sometimes trying out too many options will make things way worse, but more often than not, you might also find what does work best for you, so can fine tune things from all those experiences into something that means keeping a certain brand of truck, or a height of truck, or even combinations of truck bushing, board, wheelbase, or whatever will usually lead back to a stable point, or something that you can rely on at least to restart things and build on that, before going down a rabbit hole or worse.

At least I will always have a skateboard and a place to go in some form or other, just to have a roll and forget about everything else, which has always made it so appealing and accessible to me, compared to almost anything else, or dealing with anyone else, where you need specific things, locations, other people or places you have to rely on.  This is just me on my own, doing what I want, when I want to.  Some days, or even up to a week sometimes, I just don't feel like rolling, but other times and days, I am very keen, even with injuries, I can still get out somewhere for something, not pushing myself if I don't need to, or taking it easy if I know I can't go too hard for whatever reason, so with that I would like to think I never take this for granted, given everything else that could be going on.

Leaving it at that for now, but remember, you are never alone with this - there are always lots of other people, skaters, whoever, that are all at some point going through the same things.



Gone since 1988.  I talk too much about skateboards.  Sorry.

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #1406 on: August 19, 2023, 07:49:17 PM »
I just like PS Stix more than BBS. The concave feels way better IMHO. Can't put my finger on it. Not sure why I keep giving BBS a try.

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #1407 on: August 20, 2023, 07:44:07 AM »
because they make up the majority of the market?  ie. PS boards are not easy to find always....

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #1408 on: August 20, 2023, 07:46:56 AM »
because they make up the majority of the market?  ie. PS boards are not easy to find always....
True. I have some on ice, but BBS is way easier to find sadly. I know Toy Machine and Pizza use them.

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #1409 on: August 20, 2023, 10:13:12 AM »
Has anyone gone from 1/4” risers and 58mm wheels to no risers and like 52/54mm wheels? Interesting to know what your experience was like.