Gear madness support thread

[OhioGuy]

Feel like I'm fully cured now. Cause YouTube keeps recommending me gear madness stuff and I find it cringe now. Like I feel bad for the skaters driving themselves crazy switching out trucks every few weeks.

[malevy]

Having a slight crisis and not sure what the next step I should take

Have/had 3 set-ups

Setup 1
Foy Twin 8.5 x 31.9 14.25 wheelbase
Indy Hollows 144

Setup 2
Crail 8.5 Twin Tip 8.5 x 31.8 14 wheelbase
Thunder Titanium 159

Old Setup
Shop board 8.5 x 32.25 14.375 wheelbase
Indy Hollows 144

So far I've liked the shop board the most but wish it were a twin. Now I'm thinking about getting a set of Indy 149s and building another setup with a new shop board but don't know if there's going to be any noticeable differences between the 144s and the 149s. Ultimately I'd like just one do it all set up but not sure if a twin shape is more important than not

[manysnakes]

Feel like I'm fully cured now. Cause YouTube keeps recommending me gear madness stuff and I find it cringe now. Like I feel bad for the skaters driving themselves crazy switching out trucks every few weeks.

I don't think I was ever as deep as a lot of people here, but there was a time a few years ago when I got a new job and was making more money than ever, and skate shit was cheaper than it was in the 90s, and I got a little crazy buying and trying new stuff. Last year, I resolved to buy only the basics, on an as-needed basis. I broke the rule twice and both times ended up with shoes that didn't fit, so I learned my lesson. This year I haven't bought a single thing (except for a $15 complete at the thrift store) and I can't imagine that'll change. Definitely the fire is out and I am fully in "run what you brung" mode.

[OhioGuy]

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Feel like I'm fully cured now. Cause YouTube keeps recommending me gear madness stuff and I find it cringe now. Like I feel bad for the skaters driving themselves crazy switching out trucks every few weeks.

[close]

I don't think I was ever as deep as a lot of people here, but there was a time a few years ago when I got a new job and was making money than ever, and skate shit was cheaper than it was in the 90s, and I got a little crazy buying and trying new stuff. Last year, I resolved to buy only the basics, on an as-needed basis. I broke the rule twice and both times ended up with shoes that didn't fit, so I learned my lesson. This year I haven't bought a single thing (except for a $15 complete at the thrift store) and I can't imagine that'll change. Definitely the fire is out and I am fully in "run what you brung" mode.

Yeah that's what got me. I had tons of money to blow and no hobbies. Compared to gaming, skateboarding is cheap and I found myself just buying shit. I've slipped up this year with shoes, and now I have some Wair Max I'll never skate. My setup is decided though.

[manysnakes]

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Feel like I'm fully cured now. Cause YouTube keeps recommending me gear madness stuff and I find it cringe now. Like I feel bad for the skaters driving themselves crazy switching out trucks every few weeks.

[close]

I don't think I was ever as deep as a lot of people here, but there was a time a few years ago when I got a new job and was making money than ever, and skate shit was cheaper than it was in the 90s, and I got a little crazy buying and trying new stuff. Last year, I resolved to buy only the basics, on an as-needed basis. I broke the rule twice and both times ended up with shoes that didn't fit, so I learned my lesson. This year I haven't bought a single thing (except for a $15 complete at the thrift store) and I can't imagine that'll change. Definitely the fire is out and I am fully in "run what you brung" mode.

[close]

Yeah that's what got me. I had tons of money to blow and no hobbies. Compared to gaming, skateboarding is cheap and I found myself just buying shit. I've slipped up this year with shoes, and now I have some Wair Max I'll never skate. My setup is decided though.

Same, and hilariously, my setup is not much different from what I had when I started accumulating.

[Scottboarding]

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Feel like I'm fully cured now. Cause YouTube keeps recommending me gear madness stuff and I find it cringe now. Like I feel bad for the skaters driving themselves crazy switching out trucks every few weeks.

[close]

I don't think I was ever as deep as a lot of people here, but there was a time a few years ago when I got a new job and was making money than ever, and skate shit was cheaper than it was in the 90s, and I got a little crazy buying and trying new stuff. Last year, I resolved to buy only the basics, on an as-needed basis. I broke the rule twice and both times ended up with shoes that didn't fit, so I learned my lesson. This year I haven't bought a single thing (except for a $15 complete at the thrift store) and I can't imagine that'll change. Definitely the fire is out and I am fully in "run what you brung" mode.

[close]

Yeah that's what got me. I had tons of money to blow and no hobbies. Compared to gaming, skateboarding is cheap and I found myself just buying shit. I've slipped up this year with shoes, and now I have some Wair Max I'll never skate. My setup is decided though.

I stopped skating for a little over a year and when I got back into it I had some madness mixed with curiosity about gear I hadn't skated before. My other hobby is photography which is way more expensive than skateboarding so I ran into the same problem of just buying anything and everything. It's easy not to impulse buy an $800 lens but $40-50 for a set of trucks or wheels is so hard to say no to.

[Ok]

i used to drink. a lot.
paying $50 for a set of trucks feels like nothing in comparison to going out and spending it all.

it’s not so much the money, but the confusion of not knowing what to ride, out of the tangle of parts, that’s the worst.

i am so far from the dock, barely treading water.
skated a G053, thunder 149s, AND 55 DRAGONS. worked better than anything else i’ve tried recently, but was heavy as hell, and i am still so skating so badly i can’t justify spending another dollar on it.

[moonordie]

Lately my madness has been wheels.
Dial Tones conical 53
Came back to my CF 53
Changed to lock in full 54
Went to X99 V5
Came back to CF 53
Want classics 53 badly.

All of this in less than 2 months.

[rikki]

X99 54mm's have cured my wheel madness as of late.

Still doesn't keep me from repeatedly buying new sets of various kinds of wheels.

[rocklobster]

I can't recall who on here said it but I'll paraphrase - do you have gear madness or do you just enjoy shopping?

I definitely stocked up on too many decks on a whim of a shape (Clutch O, twins, decks with inserts) and only stopped when I decided to stick to twins. Madness is only worth it if you actively test the setups you buy to figure out your deck / truck / wheel preferences, and have a honest assessment of your skill ceiling ("I always struggled with 360 flips and x piece of gear isn't going to change that").

Skate madness is definitely cheaper than car / bike / guitar / camera madness by a mile, but staring at stacks of unskated gear is stressful and reminds me of money that could have been better spent elsewhere.

[Xen]

I can't recall who on here said it but I'll paraphrase - do you have gear madness or do you just enjoy shopping?

Both? But it's not about the purchase persay, it's about the purchase working out (madness).

My madness is how I want the board to feel - the greater sum of it's parts - I want it to feel like the extension it should be, if something is off, everything is off.

[Zane]

First madness of my life; went through too many wheels within the span of two months.

Started off with wanting to try Dragons after riding Spitfire F4 for as long as they've been around. Bought the 54mm V4 Dragons and loved them at first. Spot to spot was so much faster, and I liked the rebound. They definitely don't slide as well as everyone wants you to believe. Especially felt it on flat ground tricks that required a little bit of a revert (backslide flips, 360s, etc). Went back to Spitfire F4, but tried the OG classics in 52mm 99a. Hated them. Square edge threw off all my flat ground tricks, and they felt super rough riding from spot to spot. Went back to Dragons, but this time the 52mm V1, hoping that the smaller wheel would revert better. They didn't. Went to Spitfire F4 Classics in 97a hoping that it would be a good middle ground. They were okay honestly. Definitely prefer a round edge wheel, but they still were a little sticky for my taste. They were good for 90% of things, and my flat ground improved, but still not "it". Finally landed back on Spitfire F4, but this time 54mm 99a Radials. Hoping the slightly wider wheel helps smoothen things, while having the slide of the 99a duro, and the round edge for flat ground.

[OhioGuy]

Oh it’s certainly a shopping addiction too. All my spare decks used to bother me, but they’re just wood and if you store them properly they’ll last for years. Just set up a Tactics deck I grabbed in 2022 and it’s fine. Not as good as my g053s, but I wanted to get rid of it.

Now I worry about shoes cause I’ve seen some fall apart online. But I hope that takes YEARS, like over three at least. One sucky thing about wearing size 14 is I basically have no one to give them too. May have to find some tall Slap members to dump them on one day lol

[rocklobster]

Oh it’s certainly a shopping addiction too. All my spare decks used to bother me, but they’re just wood and if you store them properly they’ll last for years. Just set up a Tactics deck I grabbed in 2022 and it’s fine. Not as good as my g053s, but I wanted to get rid of it.

Now I worry about shoes cause I’ve seen some fall apart online. But I hope that takes YEARS, like over three at least. One sucky thing about wearing size 14 is I basically have no one to give them too. May have to find some tall Slap members to dump them on one day lol

If you're in the US shoes will last a long time, got a few pairs of NB 868 from a Pal on here which have to be at least 5-6 years old and they're holding up just fine (knock on wood). But they heat and humidity of the tropics wrecks the glue and foam on shoes.

[moonordie]

First madness of my life; went through too many wheels within the span of two months.

Started off with wanting to try Dragons after riding Spitfire F4 for as long as they've been around. Bought the 54mm V4 Dragons and loved them at first. Spot to spot was so much faster, and I liked the rebound. They definitely don't slide as well as everyone wants you to believe. Especially felt it on flat ground tricks that required a little bit of a revert (backslide flips, 360s, etc). Went back to Spitfire F4, but tried the OG classics in 52mm 99a. Hated them. Square edge threw off all my flat ground tricks, and they felt super rough riding from spot to spot. Went back to Dragons, but this time the 52mm V1, hoping that the smaller wheel would revert better. They didn't. Went to Spitfire F4 Classics in 97a hoping that it would be a good middle ground. They were okay honestly. Definitely prefer a round edge wheel, but they still were a little sticky for my taste. They were good for 90% of things, and my flat ground improved, but still not "it". Finally landed back on Spitfire F4, but this time 54mm 99a Radials. Hoping the slightly wider wheel helps smoothen things, while having the slide of the 99a duro, and the round edge for flat ground.

And then probably it will happen the same that's happening to me: you'll want classics

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First madness of my life; went through too many wheels within the span of two months.

Started off with wanting to try Dragons after riding Spitfire F4 for as long as they've been around. Bought the 54mm V4 Dragons and loved them at first. Spot to spot was so much faster, and I liked the rebound. They definitely don't slide as well as everyone wants you to believe. Especially felt it on flat ground tricks that required a little bit of a revert (backslide flips, 360s, etc). Went back to Spitfire F4, but tried the OG classics in 52mm 99a. Hated them. Square edge threw off all my flat ground tricks, and they felt super rough riding from spot to spot. Went back to Dragons, but this time the 52mm V1, hoping that the smaller wheel would revert better. They didn't. Went to Spitfire F4 Classics in 97a hoping that it would be a good middle ground. They were okay honestly. Definitely prefer a round edge wheel, but they still were a little sticky for my taste. They were good for 90% of things, and my flat ground improved, but still not "it". Finally landed back on Spitfire F4, but this time 54mm 99a Radials. Hoping the slightly wider wheel helps smoothen things, while having the slide of the 99a duro, and the round edge for flat ground.

[close]

And then probably it will happen the same that's happening to me: you'll want classics

classics are the best.

dragons do not slide very well, in my experience. i just want them to slide on downhill speed checks, and for me, they do not. dragons do feel excellent for my old joints/bones, and pushing to and fro is lovely.

i’ve been skating 52 v1 x97s and they are nice. haven’t taken them down a fast hill yet.

i’ve been contemplating skating a set of 55 dragons, for transportation, and then once at the skatepark, changing to 52 classic f4s.
feels precious.

[OhioGuy]

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Oh it’s certainly a shopping addiction too. All my spare decks used to bother me, but they’re just wood and if you store them properly they’ll last for years. Just set up a Tactics deck I grabbed in 2022 and it’s fine. Not as good as my g053s, but I wanted to get rid of it.

Now I worry about shoes cause I’ve seen some fall apart online. But I hope that takes YEARS, like over three at least. One sucky thing about wearing size 14 is I basically have no one to give them too. May have to find some tall Slap members to dump them on one day lol

[close]

If you're in the US shoes will last a long time, got a few pairs of NB 868 from a Pal on here which have to be at least 5-6 years old and they're holding up just fine (knock on wood). But they heat and humidity of the tropics wrecks the glue and foam on shoes.

That’s good to hear. I’m in the US and keep my shoes in a chill/dark closet.

[RichardBarkley]

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First madness of my life; went through too many wheels within the span of two months.

Started off with wanting to try Dragons after riding Spitfire F4 for as long as they've been around. Bought the 54mm V4 Dragons and loved them at first. Spot to spot was so much faster, and I liked the rebound. They definitely don't slide as well as everyone wants you to believe. Especially felt it on flat ground tricks that required a little bit of a revert (backslide flips, 360s, etc). Went back to Spitfire F4, but tried the OG classics in 52mm 99a. Hated them. Square edge threw off all my flat ground tricks, and they felt super rough riding from spot to spot. Went back to Dragons, but this time the 52mm V1, hoping that the smaller wheel would revert better. They didn't. Went to Spitfire F4 Classics in 97a hoping that it would be a good middle ground. They were okay honestly. Definitely prefer a round edge wheel, but they still were a little sticky for my taste. They were good for 90% of things, and my flat ground improved, but still not "it". Finally landed back on Spitfire F4, but this time 54mm 99a Radials. Hoping the slightly wider wheel helps smoothen things, while having the slide of the 99a duro, and the round edge for flat ground.

[close]

And then probably it will happen the same that's happening to me: you'll want classics

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classics are the best.

dragons do not slide very well, in my experience. i just want them to slide on downhill speed checks, and for me, they do not. dragons do feel excellent for my old joints/bones, and pushing to and fro is lovely.

i’ve been skating 52 v1 x97s and they are nice. haven’t taken them down a fast hill yet.

i’ve been contemplating skating a set of 55 dragons, for transportation, and then once at the skatepark, changing to 52 classic f4s.
feels precious.

Yeah I love my dragons but they really stick on slides.

For my knees I don't want to go back to 99 f4

So I was thinking of picking up some X97s tomorrow. Do they slide better than the dragons ?

[Ok]

i have only skated the x97s on asphalt for flatground and they were very enjoyable. dont know how they slide downhill tho. tbf dragons are also enjoyable in this semi rough parking lot

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First madness of my life; went through too many wheels within the span of two months.

Started off with wanting to try Dragons after riding Spitfire F4 for as long as they've been around. Bought the 54mm V4 Dragons and loved them at first. Spot to spot was so much faster, and I liked the rebound. They definitely don't slide as well as everyone wants you to believe. Especially felt it on flat ground tricks that required a little bit of a revert (backslide flips, 360s, etc). Went back to Spitfire F4, but tried the OG classics in 52mm 99a. Hated them. Square edge threw off all my flat ground tricks, and they felt super rough riding from spot to spot. Went back to Dragons, but this time the 52mm V1, hoping that the smaller wheel would revert better. They didn't. Went to Spitfire F4 Classics in 97a hoping that it would be a good middle ground. They were okay honestly. Definitely prefer a round edge wheel, but they still were a little sticky for my taste. They were good for 90% of things, and my flat ground improved, but still not "it". Finally landed back on Spitfire F4, but this time 54mm 99a Radials. Hoping the slightly wider wheel helps smoothen things, while having the slide of the 99a duro, and the round edge for flat ground.

[close]

And then probably it will happen the same that's happening to me: you'll want classics

[close]

classics are the best.

dragons do not slide very well, in my experience. i just want them to slide on downhill speed checks, and for me, they do not. dragons do feel excellent for my old joints/bones, and pushing to and fro is lovely.

i’ve been skating 52 v1 x97s and they are nice. haven’t taken them down a fast hill yet.

i’ve been contemplating skating a set of 55 dragons, for transportation, and then once at the skatepark, changing to 52 classic f4s.
feels precious.

Really interested in your experience downhill with x97’s.

And get two sets of bearings and just quick-switch the wheels out

[Xen]

Having a slight crisis and not sure what the next step I should take

Have/had 3 set-ups

Setup 1
Foy Twin 8.5 x 31.9 14.25 wheelbase
Indy Hollows 144

Setup 2
Crail 8.5 Twin Tip 8.5 x 31.8 14 wheelbase
Thunder Titanium 159

Old Setup
Shop board 8.5 x 32.25 14.375 wheelbase
Indy Hollows 144

So far I've liked the shop board the most but wish it were a twin. Now I'm thinking about getting a set of Indy 149s and building another setup with a new shop board but don't know if there's going to be any noticeable differences between the 144s and the 149s. Ultimately I'd like just one do it all set up but not sure if a twin shape is more important than not

I'm weening myself off twins as there are not many I prefer (too many with short WB or weird dims) and the only real benefit is just throwing the board down and off you go; the Foy / Toy twins have been the best of the offerings for me.

Maybe try the foy on 149s?

[DarkPools]

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Oh it’s certainly a shopping addiction too. All my spare decks used to bother me, but they’re just wood and if you store them properly they’ll last for years. Just set up a Tactics deck I grabbed in 2022 and it’s fine. Not as good as my g053s, but I wanted to get rid of it.

Now I worry about shoes cause I’ve seen some fall apart online. But I hope that takes YEARS, like over three at least. One sucky thing about wearing size 14 is I basically have no one to give them too. May have to find some tall Slap members to dump them on one day lol

[close]

If you're in the US shoes will last a long time, got a few pairs of NB 868 from a Pal on here which have to be at least 5-6 years old and they're holding up just fine (knock on wood). But they heat and humidity of the tropics wrecks the glue and foam on shoes.

[close]

That’s good to hear. I’m in the US and keep my shoes in a chill/dark closet.

I have a stack of Joslin and Maranas from 2018 and a couple of them I recently rotated in to skate and wear casually. Feels as good and skates like the first time I did back in 2018. So as long as you store them somewhere with no humidity or drastic temperature changes, they'll be alright.

[Mbrimson88]

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Having a slight crisis and not sure what the next step I should take

Have/had 3 set-ups

Setup 1
Foy Twin 8.5 x 31.9 14.25 wheelbase
Indy Hollows 144

Setup 2
Crail 8.5 Twin Tip 8.5 x 31.8 14 wheelbase
Thunder Titanium 159

Old Setup
Shop board 8.5 x 32.25 14.375 wheelbase
Indy Hollows 144

So far I've liked the shop board the most but wish it were a twin. Now I'm thinking about getting a set of Indy 149s and building another setup with a new shop board but don't know if there's going to be any noticeable differences between the 144s and the 149s. Ultimately I'd like just one do it all set up but not sure if a twin shape is more important than not

[close]

I'm weening myself off twins as there are not many I prefer (too many with short WB or weird dims) and th eonly real benefit is just throwing the board down and off you go; the foy / Toy twins have been the best of the offerings for me.

Maybe try the foy on 149s?

I am all for Indy 149s on anything 8.5 or 8.38, but I like a little bit more stability in that regard.  They are more balanced, I feel, for the similar sized board, rather than being a bit tippy with 8.5 or 8.38 on 144s, which is what a few friends have, but they are all about the street tech.

More personal opinion than anything else, but it is good to have at least one set of 144, 149 and 159 if you are trying anything from 8.25 through to 8.75 even though that is probably not helping the madness.

Not to say only 144 on 8.25, only 149 on 8.38 or 8.5 and only 159 on 8.6 and up, but mixing and matching can give some interesting results.

[Xen]

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Having a slight crisis and not sure what the next step I should take

Have/had 3 set-ups

Setup 1
Foy Twin 8.5 x 31.9 14.25 wheelbase
Indy Hollows 144

Setup 2
Crail 8.5 Twin Tip 8.5 x 31.8 14 wheelbase
Thunder Titanium 159

Old Setup
Shop board 8.5 x 32.25 14.375 wheelbase
Indy Hollows 144

So far I've liked the shop board the most but wish it were a twin. Now I'm thinking about getting a set of Indy 149s and building another setup with a new shop board but don't know if there's going to be any noticeable differences between the 144s and the 149s. Ultimately I'd like just one do it all set up but not sure if a twin shape is more important than not

[close]

I'm weening myself off twins as there are not many I prefer (too many with short WB or weird dims) and th eonly real benefit is just throwing the board down and off you go; the foy / Toy twins have been the best of the offerings for me.

Maybe try the foy on 149s?

[close]

I am all for Indy 149s on anything 8.5 or 8.38, but I like a little bit more stability in that regard.  They are more balanced, I feel, for the similar sized board, rather than being a bit tippy with 8.5 or 8.38 on 144s, which is what a few friends have, but they are all about the street tech.

More personal opinion than anything else, but it is good to have at least one set of 144, 149 and 159 if you are trying anything from 8.25 through to 8.75 even though that is probably not helping the madness.

Not to say only 144 on 8.25, only 149 on 8.38 or 8.5 and only 159 on 8.6 and up, but mixing and matching can give some interesting results.

Of all the combos I've tried 144/148 on 8.5" felt the worst...8.3x on 144/148 works fine for me tho. /crazy

[Xen]

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Having a slight crisis and not sure what the next step I should take

Have/had 3 set-ups

Setup 1
Foy Twin 8.5 x 31.9 14.25 wheelbase
Indy Hollows 144

Setup 2
Crail 8.5 Twin Tip 8.5 x 31.8 14 wheelbase
Thunder Titanium 159

Old Setup
Shop board 8.5 x 32.25 14.375 wheelbase
Indy Hollows 144

So far I've liked the shop board the most but wish it were a twin. Now I'm thinking about getting a set of Indy 149s and building another setup with a new shop board but don't know if there's going to be any noticeable differences between the 144s and the 149s. Ultimately I'd like just one do it all set up but not sure if a twin shape is more important than not

[close]

I'm weening myself off twins as there are not many I prefer (too many with short WB or weird dims) and the only real benefit is just throwing the board down and off you go; the Foy / Toy twins have been the best of the offerings for me.

Maybe try the foy on 149s?

Wheel wells did not help me; probably could have gone cast but it would have still happened....149s, 52mm 101a classics 94a thunder bottoms, bones hard top. Jacuzzi (what an ugly shape this thing is blech).



I put my 5.8 cast venture / 52mm STF 103a back on.

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First madness of my life; went through too many wheels within the span of two months.

Started off with wanting to try Dragons after riding Spitfire F4 for as long as they've been around. Bought the 54mm V4 Dragons and loved them at first. Spot to spot was so much faster, and I liked the rebound. They definitely don't slide as well as everyone wants you to believe. Especially felt it on flat ground tricks that required a little bit of a revert (backslide flips, 360s, etc). Went back to Spitfire F4, but tried the OG classics in 52mm 99a. Hated them. Square edge threw off all my flat ground tricks, and they felt super rough riding from spot to spot. Went back to Dragons, but this time the 52mm V1, hoping that the smaller wheel would revert better. They didn't. Went to Spitfire F4 Classics in 97a hoping that it would be a good middle ground. They were okay honestly. Definitely prefer a round edge wheel, but they still were a little sticky for my taste. They were good for 90% of things, and my flat ground improved, but still not "it". Finally landed back on Spitfire F4, but this time 54mm 99a Radials. Hoping the slightly wider wheel helps smoothen things, while having the slide of the 99a duro, and the round edge for flat ground.

[close]

And then probably it will happen the same that's happening to me: you'll want classics

[close]

classics are the best.

dragons do not slide very well, in my experience. i just want them to slide on downhill speed checks, and for me, they do not. dragons do feel excellent for my old joints/bones, and pushing to and fro is lovely.

i’ve been skating 52 v1 x97s and they are nice. haven’t taken them down a fast hill yet.

i’ve been contemplating skating a set of 55 dragons, for transportation, and then once at the skatepark, changing to 52 classic f4s.
feels precious.

[close]

Really interested in your experience downhill with x97’s.

And get two sets of bearings and just quick-switch the wheels out

@JM
@Zane

tried my x97, v1 shape, 52mm, on a rugged downhill. they were alright. speed checks worked.

then tried my 55 dragons. waaaay faster, much less speed check. uncomfortably fast in parts of the road.
for me, both wheels slide around 180, but the 90 back to straight is more difficult, for me, than say f4s.

ended up just cruising around on the dragons. they are kinda like sweatpants or slip on shoes…just lazy/easy.

if the x97s were a bigger wheel, i’m sure they would have been the move. i got these small and thin to ride on low trucks, so not exactly hill bomb optimized.

hope this isn’t as useless as it reads back to me

[spacial_profiling]

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Having a slight crisis and not sure what the next step I should take

Have/had 3 set-ups

Setup 1
Foy Twin 8.5 x 31.9 14.25 wheelbase
Indy Hollows 144

Setup 2
Crail 8.5 Twin Tip 8.5 x 31.8 14 wheelbase
Thunder Titanium 159

Old Setup
Shop board 8.5 x 32.25 14.375 wheelbase
Indy Hollows 144

So far I've liked the shop board the most but wish it were a twin. Now I'm thinking about getting a set of Indy 149s and building another setup with a new shop board but don't know if there's going to be any noticeable differences between the 144s and the 149s. Ultimately I'd like just one do it all set up but not sure if a twin shape is more important than not

[close]

I'm weening myself off twins as there are not many I prefer (too many with short WB or weird dims) and th eonly real benefit is just throwing the board down and off you go; the foy / Toy twins have been the best of the offerings for me.

Maybe try the foy on 149s?

[close]

I am all for Indy 149s on anything 8.5 or 8.38, but I like a little bit more stability in that regard.  They are more balanced, I feel, for the similar sized board, rather than being a bit tippy with 8.5 or 8.38 on 144s, which is what a few friends have, but they are all about the street tech.

More personal opinion than anything else, but it is good to have at least one set of 144, 149 and 159 if you are trying anything from 8.25 through to 8.75 even though that is probably not helping the madness.

Not to say only 144 on 8.25, only 149 on 8.38 or 8.5 and only 159 on 8.6 and up, but mixing and matching can give some interesting results.

For 8-8.4 I do 149 +/- some axel washers. 144 never piqued curiosity for fear of losing precious hanger meat.

[LeDave]

I am building my first board, I am currently using a complete by Element.

So I've created a list of what I am going to do. I already have some of the parts and am planning to buy the rest by the end of this week. What do you guys think?

Deck - DGK Tuner 8.25" (Already have)

Truck - Element Component 5.5" (Already have)

Bushings - Independent 92 Medium/Hard (Blue)

Bearings - Bronson Speed Co. RAW

Wheels - Ricta 52mm Cloud 78a

Other - Bones Speed Cream lubricant
   Independent blue 1" (Phillips bolts) (Already have)
   Grizzly black grip tape (Already have)

[rocklobster]

I am building my first board, I am currently using a complete by Element.

So I've created a list of what I am going to do. I already have some of the parts and am planning to buy the rest by the end of this week. What do you guys think?

Deck - DGK Tuner 8.25" (Already have)

Truck - Element Component 5.5" (Already have)

Bushings - Independent 92 Medium/Hard (Blue)

Bearings - Bronson Speed Co. RAW

Wheels - Ricta 52mm Cloud 78a

Other - Bones Speed Cream lubricant
   Independent blue 1" (Phillips bolts) (Already have)
   Grizzly black grip tape (Already have)

I'm going to assume this isn't a troll account so I'll reply.

Your current setup is fine as is if you're just starting out. The 2 things I'd change are the Element trucks and Ricta Clouds. Element trucks are fine for beginners / kids, their bushings are incredibly soft to account for kids not weighing anything so they can turn. Adults will find the bushings way too mushy and the board will feel unstable when you're learning to push around and get your balance.

Ricta Clouds are some of the best wheels for cruising but I wouldn't recommend them for parks or if you plan to learn how to pop your deck for tricks. The 78a formula is way too soft resulting in a board that feels bouncy instead of snappy.

I'd recommend:
DGK deck which you already have
Indy 144 or Thunder 148 Standards - stick with the big brand trucks, a pair will last you forever
Spitfire 54mm 99a Conical / Conical Full / Bones 54mm X99 V5 - better all purpose wheel
Bones Reds / Spitfire Cheapshots for bearings - cheap bearings are just as good as their pricier counterpart, though some would argue Bones Swiss last forever and are worth the money

Other stuff - I'd skip the speed cream and Indy bushings, don't need them right now and that money is better spent of good trucks or wheels.

[LeDave]

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I am building my first board, I am currently using a complete by Element.

So I've created a list of what I am going to do. I already have some of the parts and am planning to buy the rest by the end of this week. What do you guys think?

Deck - DGK Tuner 8.25" (Already have)

Truck - Element Component 5.5" (Already have)

Bushings - Independent 92 Medium/Hard (Blue)

Bearings - Bronson Speed Co. RAW

Wheels - Ricta 52mm Cloud 78a

Other - Bones Speed Cream lubricant
   Independent blue 1" (Phillips bolts) (Already have)
   Grizzly black grip tape (Already have)

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I'm going to assume this isn't a troll account so I'll reply.

Your current setup is fine as is if you're just starting out. The 2 things I'd change are the Element trucks and Ricta Clouds. Element trucks are fine for beginners / kids, their bushings are incredibly soft to account for kids not weighing anything so they can turn. Adults will find the bushings way too mushy and the board will feel unstable when you're learning to push around and get your balance.

Ricta Clouds are some of the best wheels for cruising but I wouldn't recommend them for parks or if you plan to learn how to pop your deck for tricks. The 78a formula is way too soft resulting in a board that feels bouncy instead of snappy.

I'd recommend:
DGK deck which you already have
Indy 144 or Thunder 148 Standards - stick with the big brand trucks, a pair will last you forever
Spitfire 54mm 99a Conical / Conical Full / Bones 54mm X99 V5 - better all purpose wheel
Bones Reds / Spitfire Cheapshots for bearings - cheap bearings are just as good as their pricier counterpart, though some would argue Bones Swiss last forever and are worth the money

Other stuff - I'd skip the speed cream and Indy bushings, don't need them right now and that money is better spent of good trucks or wheels.

If I skip the bushings and get a new set of Independent Stage 11 trucks, how is the bushings that come installed on it? The bushings that came with my Element trucks are absolutely horrible, way too soft and I tend to bounce from left to right of the deck, which is why I thought about swapping them out with Independent bushings.