Gear madness support thread

[Banned from the room]

My ace classics lasted the longest idky cuz the metal was obviously softer.

I too do two Ventures a year I can't break the truck no matter how much axle is showing. Usually I just get sick of looking at it. . Indys i really like newer. They last little longer.

I think my 6.1s are going to last over a year maybe. Lots of surface area my trucks like to shimmy on the block when 50. I love it

[Mooseknuckle666]

Ventures on 8.25 wheelbases?

[j....soy.....]

it's not the end of the world...the trucks are a bit lower to begin with, and the trucks have other great benefits.  That said, if wheel base bugs you, it is what it is.....might want to skate Indys.....

[mstuntbless]

Ventures on 8.25 wheelbases?

 
Do you mean 14.25?

[Crailslideyoface]

Ventures on 8.25 wheelbases?

What is this? A wheelbase for ants?

[Coffee]

The madness finally hit me today. I’ve been riding the same 8.125” shape with 8” trucks on and off for about 5 years. Today I was setting up for a trick and looked down and realized I couldn’t see my wheels from the top and it fucked me up. Seriously almost 5 years and it never bothered me but now I can’t deal with it. Going back to an 8” deck next time I hit the shop.

[smg1138]

The madness finally hit me today. I’ve been riding the same 8.125” shape with 8” trucks on and off for about 5 years. Today I was setting up for a trick and looked down and realized I couldn’t see my wheels from the top and it fucked me up. Seriously almost 5 years and it never bothered me but now I can’t deal with it. Going back to an 8” deck next time I hit the shop.

I rode the same kind of setup for years. Something you could try is putting 3 washers on the inside of each wheel to push them out a little. I do that on most of my setups to give us much grinding space as possible and keep the axles from poking out.

[Mbrimson88]

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The madness finally hit me today. I’ve been riding the same 8.125” shape with 8” trucks on and off for about 5 years. Today I was setting up for a trick and looked down and realized I couldn’t see my wheels from the top and it fucked me up. Seriously almost 5 years and it never bothered me but now I can’t deal with it. Going back to an 8” deck next time I hit the shop.

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I rode the same kind of setup for years. Something you could try is putting 3 washers on the inside of each wheel to push them out a little. I do that on most of my setups to give us much grinding space as possible and keep the axles from poking out.

Yeah that was my go to for a long, long time.

AH black eagle or similar 8.125 or other 8.18 sized boards on 139s, more often than not with wider wheels to make it feel a little more comfortable and as you said, three washers on the inside as a matter of principle.

Then when 144s came out, I switched up to those and could ride smaller / normal shaped wheels with only a washer or two on the inside which brought the wheels out a bit more and was comfortable for me.

Other people who had tried it said it messed with them too much, as they were way more comfortable on 139s than on 144s, so even that difference from 8 to 8.25" trucks can be a good thing for some people like me, or a bad thing for others I know.

If you are set on that truck size, then changing boards is often easier than getting a new set of trucks to go on the slightly wider board.

[Plan9Customs]

The madness finally hit me today. I’ve been riding the same 8.125” shape with 8” trucks on and off for about 5 years. Today I was setting up for a trick and looked down and realized I couldn’t see my wheels from the top and it fucked me up. Seriously almost 5 years and it never bothered me but now I can’t deal with it. Going back to an 8” deck next time I hit the shop.

Run 2 speed rings on the inside and that’ll push your wheels out the 1/8” so they’re flush with the deck.

[Sedition]

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The madness finally hit me today. I’ve been riding the same 8.125” shape with 8” trucks on and off for about 5 years. Today I was setting up for a trick and looked down and realized I couldn’t see my wheels from the top and it fucked me up. Seriously almost 5 years and it never bothered me but now I can’t deal with it. Going back to an 8” deck next time I hit the shop.

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I rode the same kind of setup for years. Something you could try is putting 3 washers on the inside of each wheel to push them out a little. I do that on most of my setups to give us much grinding space as possible and keep the axles from poking out.

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Yeah that was my go to for a long, long time.

AH black eagle or similar 8.125 or other 8.18 sized boards on 139s, more often than not with wider wheels to make it feel a little more comfortable and as you said, three washers on the inside as a matter of principle.

Then when 144s came out, I switched up to those and could ride smaller / normal shaped wheels with only a washer or two on the inside which brought the wheels out a bit more and was comfortable for me.

Other people who had tried it said it messed with them too much, as they were way more comfortable on 139s than on 144s, so even that difference from 8 to 8.25" trucks can be a good thing for some people like me, or a bad thing for others I know.

If you are set on that truck size, then changing boards is often easier than getting a new set of trucks to go on the slightly wider board.

This is why I only ride .25/.50/.75 decks…so trucks match up. Can’t deal with the bastard children (.01/.3/.6/etc.).

[Mbrimson88]

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The madness finally hit me today. I’ve been riding the same 8.125” shape with 8” trucks on and off for about 5 years. Today I was setting up for a trick and looked down and realized I couldn’t see my wheels from the top and it fucked me up. Seriously almost 5 years and it never bothered me but now I can’t deal with it. Going back to an 8” deck next time I hit the shop.

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I rode the same kind of setup for years. Something you could try is putting 3 washers on the inside of each wheel to push them out a little. I do that on most of my setups to give us much grinding space as possible and keep the axles from poking out.

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Yeah that was my go to for a long, long time.

AH black eagle or similar 8.125 or other 8.18 sized boards on 139s, more often than not with wider wheels to make it feel a little more comfortable and as you said, three washers on the inside as a matter of principle.

Then when 144s came out, I switched up to those and could ride smaller / normal shaped wheels with only a washer or two on the inside which brought the wheels out a bit more and was comfortable for me.

Other people who had tried it said it messed with them too much, as they were way more comfortable on 139s than on 144s, so even that difference from 8 to 8.25" trucks can be a good thing for some people like me, or a bad thing for others I know.

If you are set on that truck size, then changing boards is often easier than getting a new set of trucks to go on the slightly wider board.

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This is why I only ride .25/.50/.75 decks…so trucks match up. Can’t deal with the bastard children (.01/.3/.6/etc.).

Ha yeah for sure!!!

Some of the sizes work well with different wheels, eg wider truck, wider wheel to maximise width, or axle washers this side or that side.

The funniest thing no matter what is trying things like certain pro setups, eg Peter Hewitt with 159s on the 8.38 board and saying there is no wheel sticking out at all - no matter what I set up, there is always wheel sticking out, no washers or one washer inside, with his regular Classic or Radial shaped wheels, but that's ok - when he can skate like that, compared to how I skate on anything even my best day pales in comparison, so whatever works I guess.

Just set up a board for a friend from old parts, with 144s on my old 8.38 and it feels so tippy - even with all washers on the inside, but that's the way he likes it, whereas 149s on the 8.38 just fit so well for me.

[JM]

Tail is getting razor, and it’s at the fifth ply now. But the deck doesn’t feel soggy and still plenty snappy.

Skating indy, and I moved the 1.5mm down from standard baseplate to the forged, so that I might get the same pop timing… but it still feels like I really have to smash the hell out of the tail to have a solid popped Ollie (leveled out without foot coming off at all).

Deck is DLX 8.38/14.5 WB.
Wheels are 52 new, and at about 51 now.

Should I go back to standard hangar?
Try 53 or 54 wheels?
Just suck it up and concentrate on always popping hard?
Set up new deck?

The goal is just to have a crispy pop, with no dangly back foot. Yuck.

[jums]

I was skating a ledge next to a fountain and my board briefly went into the water, like under 5 seconds. I took it out bounced it around… rolls fine… bearings don’t feel or sound fucked. They’re like they were before going into the water. Should I clean and lube them? This happened about a week ago.

[JM]

I was skating a ledge next to a fountain and my board briefly went into the water, like under 5 seconds. I took it out bounced it around… rolls fine… bearings don’t feel or sound fucked. They’re like they were before going into the water. Should I clean and lube them? This happened about a week ago.

It’s entirely possible that no water got inside the bearings because of the surface tension/cohesion (provided you skate normally with shields on like the good lord intended).

If there was going to have any rust happen, it would have happened by now… and cleaning them wouldn’t do anything at this point.

But, it’s promising you mentioned lube, because the lube would have also protected all the internal surfaces from water sticking on them… so the hope is you had well lubed bearings and the 5sec dunk did nothing.

[jums]

Yeah, shields on. They roll the same pre water bath. I’ll leave them alone.

[Mbrimson88]

Tail is getting razor, and it’s at the fifth ply now. But the deck doesn’t feel soggy and still plenty snappy.

Skating indy, and I moved the 1.5mm down from standard baseplate to the forged, so that I might get the same pop timing… but it still feels like I really have to smash the hell out of the tail to have a solid popped Ollie (leveled out without foot coming off at all).

Deck is DLX 8.38/14.5 WB.
Wheels are 52 new, and at about 51 now.

Should I go back to standard hangar?
Try 53 or 54 wheels?
Just suck it up and concentrate on always popping hard?
Set up new deck?

The goal is just to have a crispy pop, with no dangly back foot. Yuck.

The one thing I find with the DLX 8.38 shape is I go through the tail faster than some other boards, but as with anything, when is the right time to swap out, or keep it going?

If you have a new one ready to go and can afford it, I say set up the new board and pass the other one on to someone else which might make both of you happy.

If nothing else at least it could be a good backup board if it is still not soggy, but the number of times I have kept an old board set up and skating it for way longer than I needed to, just because I wanted to get the most out of it, finally realised when I did set up a new board how good it felt, I have to keep reminding myself I don't need to skate it to death any more and it most definitely is not helping riding something past when I should, for the sake of skating something better that I have waiting, if that makes sense.

In summary, if it is not quite skating as it should, for whatever reason, swap it out ASAP.

That is my thought on it anyway.

[Mbrimson88]

Yeah, shields on. They roll the same pre water bath. I’ll leave them alone.

More than anything, even just checking each wheel is spinning as it should, take the wheel off and check the inside of each bearing - don't need to take shields off, just look at the inside of the wheel or the back of the bearing, so if it is wet in there, sooner or later things are going to rust and the bearing will stop.  If they are all clean and dry, or at least looking exactly how they should, then put it back together and away you go.

Seen a number of boards that people say their bearings are noisy or whatever, take the wheels off and there is a lot of rust, dust and mess in there, but they can never recall if or when their board got wet, so it is worth checking while things are still going well enough, before they get rusty or things go wrong.

[Sedition]

In summary, if it is not quite skating as it should, for whatever reason, swap it out ASAP.

That is my thought on it anyway.

This.

[JM]

@Sedition @Mbrimson88

Well, that settles that. Thank you

When the Doctors speak, you’d be a damned fool not to listen

[Kevve]

Im on the 8.75 ah eagle right now and want to go down a little in width as the setup is pretty hefty.

Problem is that i like some extra length as im tall.

Anyone got recommendations for longer 8.5 decks with 14.5+ wb?

The 8.38 ah eagle dims seems doable for me, but will it fit indy 159 trucks?

[Sedition]

Im on the 8.75 ah eagle right now and want to go down a little in width as the setup is pretty hefty.

Problem is that i like some extra length as im tall.

Anyone got recommendations for longer 8.5 decks with 14.5+ wb?

The 8.38 ah eagle dims seems doable for me, but will it fit indy 159 trucks?

8.38 with 159 sounds like a nightmare to me.

Check out Black Label. Their 8.5 decks are 14.5wb. Shape on them is almost exactly the same as the 8.75 you’re currently riding. BBS wood, too. Note, however, that Black Label tend to also have steeper kicks.

[Mbrimson88]

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Im on the 8.75 ah eagle right now and want to go down a little in width as the setup is pretty hefty.

Problem is that i like some extra length as im tall.

Anyone got recommendations for longer 8.5 decks with 14.5+ wb?

The 8.38 ah eagle dims seems doable for me, but will it fit indy 159 trucks?

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8.38 with 159 sounds like a nightmare to me.

Check out Black Label. Their 8.5 decks are 14.5wb. Shape on them is almost exactly the same as the 8.75 you’re currently riding. BBS wood, too. Note, however, that Black Label tend to also have steeper kicks.

I would agree with this as well.

Peter Hewitt (and others) ride 159s on their DLX 8.38 boards, but it just looked and felt weird when I set up a board to copy his.  Not to say others will not find it awesome, but it is just a little too wide in the truck department for comfort for me.


On the other hand, a lot more people ride 159s on 8.5 boards and the usual BBS / Generator 8.5 shape is a good one, used by a lot of brands for their usual board, of which I have many and they vary in steepness and concave, but as Sedition said, the Black Label 8.5 boards tend to be on the steeper side, both side to side concave and angle of kicks, from the half a dozen I have, compared to all the other BBS 8.5 boards of the same shape and size, which are in general way more mellow.


The only other question for Kevve is have you tried the DLX 8.62 shape?  It has a 14.75 wb and is a little more narrow overall than the 8.75 so if you were after something with a longer wheelbase, this is also a good one, but may be a little too big still, for what you want.

DLX does have another 8.5 x 32.5 with 14.75 wb, as well as the one off There Chandler Burton board with 14.69 wb, which might be worth checking out too.

A few options anyway.

[fakie nollie]

I think all passport boards have 14.5 on their 8.5 shape

[Sedition]

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Im on the 8.75 ah eagle right now and want to go down a little in width as the setup is pretty hefty.

Problem is that i like some extra length as im tall.

Anyone got recommendations for longer 8.5 decks with 14.5+ wb?

The 8.38 ah eagle dims seems doable for me, but will it fit indy 159 trucks?

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8.38 with 159 sounds like a nightmare to me.

Check out Black Label. Their 8.5 decks are 14.5wb. Shape on them is almost exactly the same as the 8.75 you’re currently riding. BBS wood, too. Note, however, that Black Label tend to also have steeper kicks.

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I would agree with this as well.

Peter Hewitt (and others) ride 159s on their DLX 8.38 boards, but it just looked and felt weird when I set up a board to copy his.  Not to say others will not find it awesome, but it is just a little too wide in the truck department for comfort for me.


On the other hand, a lot more people ride 159s on 8.5 boards and the usual BBS / Generator 8.5 shape is a good one, used by a lot of brands for their usual board, of which I have many and they vary in steepness and concave, but as Sedition said, the Black Label 8.5 boards tend to be on the steeper side, both side to side concave and angle of kicks, from the half a dozen I have, compared to all the other BBS 8.5 boards of the same shape and size, which are in general way more mellow.


The only other question for Kevve is have you tried the DLX 8.62 shape?  It has a 14.75 wb and is a little more narrow overall than the 8.75 so if you were after something with a longer wheelbase, this is also a good one, but may be a little too big still, for what you want.

DLX does have another 8.5 x 32.5 with 14.75 wb, as well as the one off There Chandler Burton board with 14.69 wb, which might be worth checking out too.

A few options anyway.

(1) Peter Hewitt's set-up sounds...terrifying.

(2) If you know, what other BBS brands have (a) 8.5 / 14.5 WB, (2) mellow kicks, (3) shape similar to the 8.5 Black Label?

(3) I tried the 8.62/14.75 a little bit ago. I told a friend, "This is possibly the worst popsicle I've ever ridden." I absolutely hated it. The dimensions / ratios all seemed to be fighting against each other. But to each their own, if someone likes it, awesome. The 8.75 feels way, way, way more nimble/responsive than the 8.62, IMHO, and is a much better "balanced" deck.

[DarkPools]

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Im on the 8.75 ah eagle right now and want to go down a little in width as the setup is pretty hefty.

Problem is that i like some extra length as im tall.

Anyone got recommendations for longer 8.5 decks with 14.5+ wb?

The 8.38 ah eagle dims seems doable for me, but will it fit indy 159 trucks?

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8.38 with 159 sounds like a nightmare to me.

Check out Black Label. Their 8.5 decks are 14.5wb. Shape on them is almost exactly the same as the 8.75 you’re currently riding. BBS wood, too. Note, however, that Black Label tend to also have steeper kicks.

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I would agree with this as well.

Peter Hewitt (and others) ride 159s on their DLX 8.38 boards, but it just looked and felt weird when I set up a board to copy his.  Not to say others will not find it awesome, but it is just a little too wide in the truck department for comfort for me.


On the other hand, a lot more people ride 159s on 8.5 boards and the usual BBS / Generator 8.5 shape is a good one, used by a lot of brands for their usual board, of which I have many and they vary in steepness and concave, but as Sedition said, the Black Label 8.5 boards tend to be on the steeper side, both side to side concave and angle of kicks, from the half a dozen I have, compared to all the other BBS 8.5 boards of the same shape and size, which are in general way more mellow.


The only other question for Kevve is have you tried the DLX 8.62 shape?  It has a 14.75 wb and is a little more narrow overall than the 8.75 so if you were after something with a longer wheelbase, this is also a good one, but may be a little too big still, for what you want.

DLX does have another 8.5 x 32.5 with 14.75 wb, as well as the one off There Chandler Burton board with 14.69 wb, which might be worth checking out too.

A few options anyway.

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(1) Peter Hewitt's set-up sounds...terrifying.

(2) If you know, what other BBS brands have (a) 8.5 / 14.5 WB, (2) mellow kicks, (3) shape similar to the 8.5 Black Label?

(3) I tried the 8.62/14.75 a little bit ago. I told a friend, "This is possibly the worst popsicle I've ever ridden." I absolutely hated it. The dimensions / ratios all seemed to be fighting against each other. But to each their own, if someone likes it, awesome. The 8.75 feels way, way, way more nimble/responsive than the 8.62, IMHO, and is a much better "balanced" deck.

Brands with 8.5 that have 14.5 and +32 length:

The Killing Floor

Element (Pro models and select series are BBS, others may not be, so you gotta double check for BBS markings by the bolts IRL or via photos)

Magenta (I believe but not 100%)

Passport

AH/Krooked 8.38 (feels like an 8.5 and is 14.5 with 32+ length)
Polar (some people say their 8.5s don't have 14.5 WB but all the ones I had were spot on 4 years ago)

Primitive (I swear they had 8.5 x 14.5 x 32.25 for the longest time but haven't skated any recently to know for sure if that's still true)

Slave

Zero

[Mbrimson88]

 If you know, what other BBS brands have (a) 8.5 / 14.5 WB, (2) mellow kicks, (3) shape similar to the 8.5 Black Label?

* As per Darkpools, Fakie nollie and others, this was my take.


Yeah there sure are lots in that same or very similar shape of the 8.5 x 32.3 given or take a bit in each measurement per different board company, 14.5 wb with 7 or so nose and 6.7 or so tail.  Quite a lot even have the length listed as 32 even, but they all line up the same to me.


The most annoying thing is with actually finding a mellow board, given they have multiples per press and different presses, some steeper some more mellow, because even some of the same board that I have bought, I can sort them into the steeper ones I usually sell right away, the middle range I may or may not skate or the mellow boards, which I squirrel away like they are the last of those kind on earth.

Examples of this include older stock I have from Passport, Baker, Birdhouse, Deathwish, Element (before they changed) and a few others, especially Element though, which I always blank but they are just so comfrotable for me.

Boards from Loser Machine, Isle, Alltimers, Killing Floor, some Magenta, some Passport and some Generator blanks were all middle of the road.

Boards more recently from Black Label, Cash Only, some Magenta, some Passport and a few Generator boards for skate shops / blanks were all too steep for me to be comfortable on, but others I know have loved them and they held up well.



I don't want to just list the woodshop thread with the BBS and highlight all the boards there that I have that are that shape, or at least were, because some have changed now, others seem to have gone with shorter versions, etc.

There sure are a lot from that list though.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.msg3729103#msg3729103


Others I think are the same from looking online but I have not seen in person include 151, ATM, Frog, Sci Fi (Generator sticker on it) but also all the shop boards that use Generator for their wood, as well as those smaller brands that seem to slip under the radar.

Shop board post here too:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.msg3729105#msg3729105


If you can make it in somewhere to look at or stand on a lot of boards, all good and well, but if you can't for whatever reason, it is often way more of a roll of the dice to try to find the good boards that are most comfortable.  I don't think anyone specifically has mellow boards from that list, or at least not any that will compare to DLX with a IV stamp.

[Sedition]

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 If you know, what other BBS brands have (a) 8.5 / 14.5 WB, (2) mellow kicks, (3) shape similar to the 8.5 Black Label?

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* As per Darkpools, Fakie nollie and others, this was my take.


Yeah there sure are lots in that same or very similar shape of the 8.5 x 32.3 given or take a bit in each measurement per different board company, 14.5 wb with 7 or so nose and 6.7 or so tail.  Quite a lot even have the length listed as 32 even, but they all line up the same to me.


The most annoying thing is with actually finding a mellow board, given they have multiples per press and different presses, some steeper some more mellow, because even some of the same board that I have bought, I can sort them into the steeper ones I usually sell right away, the middle range I may or may not skate or the mellow boards, which I squirrel away like they are the last of those kind on earth.

Examples of this include older stock I have from Passport, Baker, Birdhouse, Deathwish, Element (before they changed) and a few others, especially Element though, which I always blank but they are just so comfrotable for me.

Boards from Loser Machine, Isle, Alltimers, Killing Floor, some Magenta, some Passport and some Generator blanks were all middle of the road.

Boards more recently from Black Label, Cash Only, some Magenta, some Passport and a few Generator boards for skate shops / blanks were all too steep for me to be comfortable on, but others I know have loved them and they held up well.



I don't want to just list the woodshop thread with the BBS and highlight all the boards there that I have that are that shape, or at least were, because some have changed now, others seem to have gone with shorter versions, etc.

There sure are a lot from that list though.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.msg3729103#msg3729103


Others I think are the same from looking online but I have not seen in person include 151, ATM, Frog, Sci Fi (Generator sticker on it) but also all the shop boards that use Generator for their wood, as well as those smaller brands that seem to slip under the radar.

Shop board post here too:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.msg3729105#msg3729105


If you can make it in somewhere to look at or stand on a lot of boards, all good and well, but if you can't for whatever reason, it is often way more of a roll of the dice to try to find the good boards that are most comfortable.  I don't think anyone specifically has mellow boards from that list, or at least not any that will compare to DLX with a IV stamp.

(Posting this on phone, sorry for typos)

I have such a tumultuous relationship with 8.5 decks. I love my DLX 8.25/14.38.  I also love my  DLX 8.75/14.62. However, at times the 8.25 feels a tad too, well, “dainty.” Conversely, the 8.75 can lend itself to feeling like a land dirigible in some circumstances (esp. flip tricks and things that require me push the limits of what’s left of my max ollie height).

So, it seems like an 8.5/14.5 would be a magic bullet, as it falls directly between those two. Or so it would seem.

A few problems come up with the 8.5/14.5s I’ve tried. First, I hate the given shape. The DLX 8.38 falls into this category for me. The nose/tail are just too rounded-off. Baker 8.5s are the same way (and not sure I could really bring myself to ride Baker on the regular). Second, are kicks dimensions. I had a Zero 8.5/14.5 once, and Jesus, the tail was sooo long. I didn’t think that was going to impact me all that much, but I was categorically wrong. Last, is kickstarter angle. Some are just too steep. The Black Label 8.5/14.5 is the perfect 8.5 shape for me (it’s basically same shape as the DLX 8.25/8.75). But the problem with Black Label is their kicks are so steep—which is really unfortunate because (a) the shape is awesome and (b) the Black Label is one of the best companies, ever, IMHO.

The other weird thing that has happened to me on 8.5/14.5 decks is…they seem to be the worst of the 8.25/8.75, and the best of neither. They never seem as solid/stable as the 8.75 (main reason I like that deck), or as agile as the 8.25. I’ve never, once, ridden any 8.5/14.5 deck and been like “OH! OH! OMG! Hell yes! This thing rocks!” The 8.25/8.75, however…

So, I don’t know. Maybe I’ve just never found the “perfect” 8.5/14.5. Maybe my idea that an 8.5/14.5 is a  middle ground “magic bullet” is fundamentally flawed. Maybe I’m just chasing madness waterfalls. Maybe I should stop looking, and just take the brilliance of the 8.75/8.25 on their own terms.

[Meathook]

I ordered 93a f4 radial the second I could a couple days ago.  I’ve been perfectly happy on f4 97a 53mm Classics for the last month +.  It’s times like this that I feel the madness the most and wonder what it’s going to take to get rid of this (besides more therapy.)

[Ant]

I've got a weird brand of madness. My 149 Indys are perfect. On an 8.38 April with classic shape 99d F4s perfect. On an 8.5 Polar with conical fulls 99.9% perfect.

Why then am I always buying stuff, trying to get Aces to work, taking 2 boards to the park only to ride my normal one after 5 minutes of failure on the new one?

It's like being married to a 9 out of 10 who is a great cook and super nice, but chasing 20 year old psycho stunners.

[JM]

@Sedition @Mbrimson88

Well, that settles that. Thank you

When the Doctors speak, you’d be a damned fool not to listen

@Sedition @Mbrimson88

I done listened.