Gear madness support thread

[Bupstop]

I totally agree with you about Indy 149s. I’m using a set on a 9.2 shaped deck with 52s and I love it. I thought they might be too small but they work perfect for me.
Years ago I tried 139s on a 8.25 and I hated it. Something felt off to me but I guess it works for some and it was a fun experiment at the time.

[Obijuan91]

Having an extra set of 149s on a wide board is the cure for the madness…and one set on techy trucks. Get burnt out or unsure of regular set up step on the wide boy and cruise around go back to regular set up and bam feels great again

[swongolianbbq]

Having an extra set of 149s on a wide board is the cure for the madness…and one set on techy trucks. Get burnt out or unsure of regular set up step on the wide boy and cruise around go back to regular set up and bam feels great again

That's what I'm thinking... Have one techier setup that's essentially the same soul that I can switch to if I'm feeling burnt out

As far as aiming for grinds and turning feel and stuff I think I have to have 149s on both

Maybe start the session on an 8.5 with 54s and end it on an 8.25 with 51s or something, and have a soft set of 56s stashed for crusty stuff

[Obijuan91]

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Having an extra set of 149s on a wide board is the cure for the madness…and one set on techy trucks. Get burnt out or unsure of regular set up step on the wide boy and cruise around go back to regular set up and bam feels great again

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That's what I'm thinking... Have one techier setup that's essentially the same soul that I can switch to if I'm feeling burnt out

As far as aiming for grinds and turning feel and stuff I think I have to have 149s on both

Maybe start the session on an 8.5 with 54s and end it on an 8.25 with 51s or something, and have a soft set of 56s stashed for crusty stuff

Id say just put one on a shaped deck or a board with a longer wheelbase with big wheels for fun and the other on one of those anti hero dlx 8.5 boards

[swongolianbbq]

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Having an extra set of 149s on a wide board is the cure for the madness…and one set on techy trucks. Get burnt out or unsure of regular set up step on the wide boy and cruise around go back to regular set up and bam feels great again

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That's what I'm thinking... Have one techier setup that's essentially the same soul that I can switch to if I'm feeling burnt out

As far as aiming for grinds and turning feel and stuff I think I have to have 149s on both

Maybe start the session on an 8.5 with 54s and end it on an 8.25 with 51s or something, and have a soft set of 56s stashed for crusty stuff

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Id say just put one on a shaped deck or a board with a longer wheelbase with big wheels for fun and the other on one of those anti hero dlx 8.5 boards

That might work for most folks but my current board is a DBX 8.5 x 14.25 antihero, and I kind of despise long wheelbases. That 14.25" wb 9.375" BBS shaped board looks super fun though

I like to have a cruiser/filmer/dirt/rain board, so that kind of sucks up all the novelty and my only other board would be for getting tricks on and learning more stuff. Just sometimes I get down on myself and wonder if different dimensions would actually help me out.. so I need like my normal board and then one that is basically the same but lighter, but no so light that it loses its oomph and is harder to control

That's where I got into thinking about how people made their boards lighter before all the hollow forged titanium stuff, and it was just smaller versions of the same stuff... How things ended up with folks on 8.5" decks with 139s and stuff

I think I'd rather go to an 8.25 deck than switch from 149s.. those trucks are the most consistent thing in my board the whole time. I think because the last few 8.25s I had were baker OGs, which are pointy and maybe made it feel like less than an 8.25. cause the AH blue eagle isn't even really 8.5, it has that taper.

I think the 8.25" is a more common board size, and if I were skating bigger faster stuff it would justify the 8.5 and some slightly bigger wheels maybe

Either way I just had a pretty okay session on the 8.5.. frontside flips were sort of on, switch frontside flips want to come back. Half cab heels were easy. I like these DBX boards they're nice. I only paid $60 iirc so I might not ever have another one, just BBS blanks or Heated Wheel team decks but I do really enjoy it

[TheCrimsonShroud]

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Having an extra set of 149s on a wide board is the cure for the madness…and one set on techy trucks. Get burnt out or unsure of regular set up step on the wide boy and cruise around go back to regular set up and bam feels great again

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That's what I'm thinking... Have one techier setup that's essentially the same soul that I can switch to if I'm feeling burnt out

As far as aiming for grinds and turning feel and stuff I think I have to have 149s on both

Maybe start the session on an 8.5 with 54s and end it on an 8.25 with 51s or something, and have a soft set of 56s stashed for crusty stuff

That's what I started doing. I have three setups: 8.5 with thunder 151s, and 8.125 with venture 5.8s, and a board that I just experiment on. I warm up on the 8.5, skate the ventures for the rest of the sesh, and just tinker on the weird deck when I get madness.

[Bongwater Mojito]

I'd say stick with the 149s honestly you could probably still rock an 8.125 with them if you're running smaller wheels

If you're gonna be running 56mm radial fulls or something I'd just get 8.5 decks but a 8.25" matches perfectly and I skated a whole bunch of those baker 8.25 og mellows with indys

Also you can get BBS blanks in 8.25 with 14, or 14.25 wb

Yeah, I'm on 8.25 Easy Rider now which is almost a 8.38, works well with 149s. Might try 8.125 at some point but now this is good. Now I'm thinking about the wb, with AF1s 14.38 worked great, but maybe I'd like to have 14.25 after all with Indys... So not cured yet, still healing.

[Sedition]

Whoa. Thought Forged Hollows were my "forever truck." Like, I never have truck madness. At all. Well, for some unknown reason, recently threw on cast plates a few days ago. First few min I was like, "Oh, hell no. These feel waaaaay too high." Then something clicked, and I was like, "Oh my god!" Pop on everything started feeling way easier/bigger/better/more consistent, and turns feel deeper without wheel bite. I might be converted.

[swongolianbbq]

Whoa. Thought Forged Hollows were my "forever truck." Like, I never have truck madness. At all. Well, for some unknown reason, recently threw on cast plates a few days ago. First few min I was like, "Oh, hell no. These feel waaaaay too high." Then something clicked, and I was like, "Oh my god!" Pop on everything started feeling way easier/bigger/better/more consistent, and turns feel deeper without wheel bite. I might be converted.

Yesss join usss

Also when the baseplates get all smashed in from slides, you can smooth em out on the sidewalk more times since they're thicker

And your bolts don't stick out

But definitely the wheelbite reduction factor and deeper turn for sure

[SwitchBenihana]

I've never understood the appeal for Forged Hollows if you aren't riding a smaller deck. They will wheelbite faster, to me the pinch is not perceivably different and I do a ton of feebles and crook variations, the wheelbase extension yields almost the same pop angle yet they don't have as good of pop and snap up, and weight wise if you compare to the cast plates with hollow KP and Axle, you only save 11 grams per truck (those save nearly 30 over standards).

When I was basically couch ridden after an accident I was extremely bored and watched the Indy "My Indy's videos". Almost no one rides forged, maybe 5% of their pros. Even the more technical ones predominantly skate the standard heavy cast trucks. They're still great, but I can't see any case where I'd prefer them. If I want lighter and lower I get Thunders and just get used to the turn.

[swongolianbbq]

I've never understood the appeal for Forged Hollows if you aren't riding a smaller deck. They will wheelbite faster, to me the pinch is not perceivably different and I do a ton of feebles and crook variations, the wheelbase extension yields almost the same pop angle yet they don't have as good of pop and snap up, and weight wise if you compare to the cast plates with hollow KP and Axle, you only save 11 grams per truck (those save nearly 30 over standards).

When I was basically couch ridden after an accident I was extremely bored and watched the Indy "My Indy's videos". Almost no one rides forged, maybe 5% of their pros. Even the more technical ones predominantly skate the standard heavy cast trucks. They're still great, but I can't see any case where I'd prefer them. If I want lighter and lower I get Thunders and just get used to the turn.

For sure

I think some people skate forged for a slightly lower center of gravity or whatever

Tony hawk skates forged trucks tight as hell with 60's and no risers lol

If you want good pinch just get thunders

But yeah the forged aren't that different, they're more expensive, and the I think the drawbacks outweigh the benefits

[Sedition]

I've never understood the appeal for Forged Hollows…

Simple. Lower height feels better for some people.

[SwitchBenihana]

Has anyone verified what the pop angle difference actually is on the same wheels/deck? I don't think I ever tried, but I'd be curious if it's in some old Ben DeGros video or something. The wheelbase extension is about the same as the height reduction so I'd find it super amusing if the pop angle is actually the same, just lighter from less momentum.

[Obijuan91]

I used to be all about the forged hollows. Came across a deck that was to steep and then i ate my words. The thunders felt great im on em for now till i axle them i think. But I feel if I switch back to the forged indy cuz i do prefer the turn id probably pair it with 52’mm wheels to mellow out the height a bit

[Crabby_Bastard]

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I've never understood the appeal for Forged Hollows…

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Simple. Lower height feels better for some people.

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[Bongwater Mojito]

Now y'all got me thinking about combining Ti hangers with cast baseplates...

[swongolianbbq]

Now y'all got me thinking about combining Ti hangers with cast baseplates...

I've wanted to try this combo for over a year

If I find a good deal, it's goin down

[moonordie]

Whoa. Thought Forged Hollows were my "forever truck." Like, I never have truck madness. At all. Well, for some unknown reason, recently threw on cast plates a few days ago. First few min I was like, "Oh, hell no. These feel waaaaay too high." Then something clicked, and I was like, "Oh my god!" Pop on everything started feeling way easier/bigger/better/more consistent, and turns feel deeper without wheel bite. I might be converted.

The moment you said that you doomed yourself

[rikki]

Whoa. Thought Forged Hollows were my "forever truck." Like, I never have truck madness. At all. Well, for some unknown reason, recently threw on cast plates a few days ago. First few min I was like, "Oh, hell no. These feel waaaaay too high." Then something clicked, and I was like, "Oh my god!" Pop on everything started feeling way easier/bigger/better/more consistent, and turns feel deeper without wheel bite. I might be converted.

Another visitor... stay awhile, stay forever!

[Mbrimson88]

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Now y'all got me thinking about combining Ti hangers with cast baseplates...

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I've wanted to try this combo for over a year

If I find a good deal, it's goin down

Yes it does work well, or at least I felt like it was a more natural feeling combination as I was used to the cast 55 mm height and the ti axles / hangers on the forged baseplates just felt way too light for what I was used to.

It wasn't too light, but it was a bit nicer trying that combination, especially on wider boards - ti axle / hangers in 149, 159 and 169 switched on to cast baseplates on bigger boards made things a little easier to throw around, when I had a bit of a go of all those options.


To be fair I am just never keen on hollow kingpins either, so anything with a cast baseplate with a solid kingpin is going to be my preference any day, any place, any session, but that is not to say that the usual ti axle / forged baseplate combination is not a winner for some people who do want both a lower and lighter setup, as per some people I know.  They also skate tighter trucks on smaller than average wheels, so everything fits well on their setups, but damn those things are so light compared to my usual boards.

[TheCrimsonShroud]

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I've never understood the appeal for Forged Hollows…

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Simple. Lower height feels better for some people.

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I definitely prefer lower trucks. That said, I have some forged hollow 139s and they just don't feel like Indy to me. I want heavy and high when I ride Independent as much as I want that turn.

[swongolianbbq]

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I've never understood the appeal for Forged Hollows…

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Simple. Lower height feels better for some people.

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I definitely prefer lower trucks. That said, I have some forged hollow 139s and they just don't feel like Indy to me. I want heavy and high when I ride Independent as much as I want that turn.

I feel like 129s and 139s are too high, but instead of going forged Indy I'd rather use thunders or venture lows cause the wider wheelbase counteracts the low height to keep good pop

I think 8.25 and 8.5 trucks are the zone where you can kinda use whatever truck from anybody and it'll feel alright

for 8.75+ Ace, Indy, Lurpiv, etc make more sense and for below 8.25 thunders and venture lows are more proportionate

[Sedition]

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I've never understood the appeal for Forged Hollows…

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Simple. Lower height feels better for some people.

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100%

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I definitely prefer lower trucks. That said, I have some forged hollow 139s and they just don't feel like Indy to me. I want heavy and high when I ride Independent as much as I want that turn.

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I feel like 129s and 139s are too high, but instead of going forged Indy I'd rather use thunders or venture lows cause the wider wheelbase counteracts the low height to keep good pop

I think 8.25 and 8.5 trucks are the zone where you can kinda use whatever truck from anybody and it'll feel alright

for 8.75+ Ace, Indy, Lurpiv, etc make more sense and for below 8.25 thunders and venture lows are more proportionate

Fully back this approach. I feel like there are certain “magic ratios” that exist within set-ups to make them (generally) feel “right.” 


Really tall, narrow, short set-ups (e.g. an 8” with standard Indys and 55mm wheels) start getting really weird. Whereas standard Indys and 55mm work fine on an 8.75 (and forged thunders with 51mm would be a bit kooky). And yeah, that 8.25-8.5 area is the twilight zone where things blend quite well.

[Slave IV]

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I've never understood the appeal for Forged Hollows…

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Simple. Lower height feels better for some people.

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I definitely prefer lower trucks. That said, I have some forged hollow 139s and they just don't feel like Indy to me. I want heavy and high when I ride Independent as much as I want that turn.

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I feel like 129s and 139s are too high, but instead of going forged Indy I'd rather use thunders or venture lows cause the wider wheelbase counteracts the low height to keep good pop

I think 8.25 and 8.5 trucks are the zone where you can kinda use whatever truck from anybody and it'll feel alright

for 8.75+ Ace, Indy, Lurpiv, etc make more sense and for below 8.25 thunders and venture lows are more proportionate

This all makes sense but just gonna point out that a lot of measurements I’ve seen on these forums say that forged Indy’s have the same wheelbase as regular Thunders.

[swongolianbbq]

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I've never understood the appeal for Forged Hollows…

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Simple. Lower height feels better for some people.

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I definitely prefer lower trucks. That said, I have some forged hollow 139s and they just don't feel like Indy to me. I want heavy and high when I ride Independent as much as I want that turn.

[close]

I feel like 129s and 139s are too high, but instead of going forged Indy I'd rather use thunders or venture lows cause the wider wheelbase counteracts the low height to keep good pop

I think 8.25 and 8.5 trucks are the zone where you can kinda use whatever truck from anybody and it'll feel alright

for 8.75+ Ace, Indy, Lurpiv, etc make more sense and for below 8.25 thunders and venture lows are more proportionate

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This all makes sense but just gonna point out that a lot of measurements I’ve seen on these forums say that forged Indy’s have the same wheelbase as regular Thunders.

Forged indys are ~53.5 high, cast thunder 148,149 and 151 are ~52mm tall.. and cast thunder 145 and 147s are ~50mm high, so I can only assume the forged thunders are at least 3mm shorter than a forged Indy which is a decent difference

[Sedition]

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I've never understood the appeal for Forged Hollows…

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Simple. Lower height feels better for some people.

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100%

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I definitely prefer lower trucks. That said, I have some forged hollow 139s and they just don't feel like Indy to me. I want heavy and high when I ride Independent as much as I want that turn.

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I feel like 129s and 139s are too high, but instead of going forged Indy I'd rather use thunders or venture lows cause the wider wheelbase counteracts the low height to keep good pop

I think 8.25 and 8.5 trucks are the zone where you can kinda use whatever truck from anybody and it'll feel alright

for 8.75+ Ace, Indy, Lurpiv, etc make more sense and for below 8.25 thunders and venture lows are more proportionate

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This all makes sense but just gonna point out that a lot of measurements I’ve seen on these forums say that forged Indy’s have the same wheelbase as regular Thunders.

My comments were mostly in regard to just height ratios…

[munchbox]

wide decks with mid height trucks fucks
dont knock it til you try it

[Boog]

wide decks with mid height trucks fucks
dont knock it til you try it

Preach!

[TheCrimsonShroud]

wide decks with mid height trucks fucks
dont knock it til you try it

I have a set of Thunder 151s I ride on anything from flatter 8.5s up to 9.25 and they're fantastic for cruising, light tranny, etc

[Sedition]

wide decks with mid height trucks fucks
dont knock it til you try it

In this thread? We’ve tried everything.