Gear madness support thread

[Sedition]

Back to the shoe thing. Took this pic last night. This is the ball of my forward foot. I'll prolly let that hole get a little bit bigger, and then these are done. Had these about 3.5 months as of now.

[SwitchBenihana]

After catching up on the last 3 pages I feel completely sane.

[Sedition]

After catching up on the last 3 pages I feel completely sane.

How can we help make that feeling go away?

[moonordie]

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After catching up on the last 3 pages I feel completely sane.

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How can we help make that feeling go away?

By saying how attractive is to have the option of trying different WB with V8 on the same board

[Hqjdncm]

My experience seems to echo those of other Lurpiv riders here:

Pros

• Turn is amazing. Deep, but stable and they're hard to WB. It's like what T2 want to be.
• They're light, but tall and space your wheels out. The pop feel is very unique: light but not anemic.

Cons

• The pinch is quite bad. I'd put it on par with Ace.
• KP clearance is horrible, the worst of any tall/turny truck. I'm surprised it's as bad as it is.
• The baseplate is very angled and it either slides or sticks, very unpredictable.

Honestly I don't see them lasting long. It's an Ace or T2 with worse clearance. Mine are binned and I now ride T2 instead and can't see why anyone would ever choose Lurpiv over Ace/Indy/T2 or even Slappy. They desperately need IKP and even then what do you get over the others? Swap your bushings if you want more stability out of them.

Is it just the kingpin clearance and the pinch for u? I don’t think the kingpin clearance will be a huge deal for me. And having ridden a lot of ace I am not too sure the pinch would be a deal breaker for me. I’m mainly looking for the height and the lighter weight compared to ace.

[SwitchBenihana]

Just run a thin riser with Ace. I'd do that with IKP AF1 any day over Lurpivs. I don't NEED the clearance but damn is it nice as the truck wears. Even basic slappies on chunky curbs would catch it randomly. Ace baseplate slide is also not fickle. The only reason I would consider Lurpiv is if I only rode transition and wanted the extended wheelbase, but that just isn't a "must" for me. I think Oski missed the mark on these overall other than the turn. I can't see the company lasting.

[rawbertson.]

the kingpin clearance is really the only negative thing for me. if you only skate at skatepark, or rails, would be fine i think (not skating tons of curb / concrete) because your hangar wouldnt hardly wear down.

they do have tons of meat on the hangar before you hit axle though, and you can just grind through the kingpin for ages if you were to just skate them as slappy trucks like i have been. I remember them feeling really hard to get used to at first. I havent skated mine in almost a year, been skating indy and t2 mostly.

I could be 100% happy just skating one of those trucks, but now I reallllllly want to get a 8"x14"wb setup with Ventures,~54mm classic, and try and be a tech skater 

[Obijuan91]

 Update on the shoe thing. Set my old board back up with the fresh kicks. The board feels crispy again. My flip is back, crazy how soggy shoes can make your board feel soggy as well. Ima ride out the old board a bit longer now.

[Plan9Customs]

After catching up on the last 3 pages I feel completely sane.

[soot_yawd]

I usually ride 8.25-8.5 DLX boards with 14-14.25 wheelbase on Venture 5.8s.

I’m 6’2” and 210 lbs and those boards have been starting to feel too short.

Looking at sizing up to the 8.62, 14.75 wheelbase Antihero, but I’m not sure what trucks to use. With that long of a wheelbase, I worry Ventures wouldn’t be a good match.

Currently leaning toward Thunder T-2 151s or the new hollow version of the Indy Stage IVs.

Any thoughts?

[rawbertson.]

I usually ride 8.25-8.5 DLX boards with 14-14.25 wheelbase on Venture 5.8s.

I’m 6’2” and 210 lbs and those boards have been starting to feel too short.

Looking at sizing up to the 8.62, 14.75 wheelbase Antihero, but I’m not sure what trucks to use. With that long of a wheelbase, I worry Ventures wouldn’t be a good match.

Currently leaning toward Thunder T-2 151s or the new hollow version of the Indy Stage IVs.

Any thoughts?

14.75 is so god damned long to me. i have rode a shape close to this from anti hero, it is just slightly wider in some spots and is somewhat of a shape board (the blue meanie) it feels so hard to manual and do fakie tricks. you are 2" taller than i am but i would be doing anytihng i could to bring in the wheelbase on that personally

[Schinken]

I usually ride 8.25-8.5 DLX boards with 14-14.25 wheelbase on Venture 5.8s.

I’m 6’2” and 210 lbs and those boards have been starting to feel too short.

Looking at sizing up to the 8.62, 14.75 wheelbase Antihero, but I’m not sure what trucks to use. With that long of a wheelbase, I worry Ventures wouldn’t be a good match.

Currently leaning toward Thunder T-2 151s or the new hollow version of the Indy Stage IVs.

Any thoughts?

I've tested this deck with independent & thunder t1.
Both work. I'm pretty sure that venture would work as well.
Length of kicks and steepness are way more important to me

[munchbox]

I usually ride 8.25-8.5 DLX boards with 14-14.25 wheelbase on Venture 5.8s.

I’m 6’2” and 210 lbs and those boards have been starting to feel too short.

Looking at sizing up to the 8.62, 14.75 wheelbase Antihero, but I’m not sure what trucks to use. With that long of a wheelbase, I worry Ventures wouldn’t be a good match.

Currently leaning toward Thunder T-2 151s or the new hollow version of the Indy Stage IVs.

Any thoughts?

going up in increments is recommended
if you can afford to try a few things out

instead of going right on up to 14.75wb
maybe try 14.375 and if thats not enough, 14.5wb

i personally prefer ventures with longer tails
forged plates felt really good with a 6.75+ tail
and a bit too steep/short with 6.5 tails

if you like ventures, you should tinker with boards
no other truck performs the same imo

[boofactory]

I rode the dlx 8.62 with venture v8s and really enjoyed it. Made the board feel a bit tighter while still looking like a big board under feet

[Richard Skidder]

I usually ride 8.25-8.5 DLX boards with 14-14.25 wheelbase on Venture 5.8s.

I’m 6’2” and 210 lbs and those boards have been starting to feel too short.

Looking at sizing up to the 8.62, 14.75 wheelbase Antihero, but I’m not sure what trucks to use. With that long of a wheelbase, I worry Ventures wouldn’t be a good match.

Currently leaning toward Thunder T-2 151s or the new hollow version of the Indy Stage IVs.

Any thoughts?

Why not try DLX 8.38? Wheelbase is 14.5, that’s a quarter inch longer and the width measures closer to 8.5. You won’t have to try new trucks. It’s also a very common shape from them so if you like it you’ll have no problems getting that shape again.

[Sedition]

I usually ride 8.25-8.5 DLX boards with 14-14.25 wheelbase on Venture 5.8s.

I’m 6’2” and 210 lbs and those boards have been starting to feel too short.

Looking at sizing up to the 8.62, 14.75 wheelbase Antihero, but I’m not sure what trucks to use. With that long of a wheelbase, I worry Ventures wouldn’t be a good match.

Currently leaning toward Thunder T-2 151s or the new hollow version of the Indy Stage IVs.

Any thoughts?

Yeah, I'll say what others said...don't go too big, too fast. If you are looking to stay within DLX world, these are other options:

8.25 / 14.38 / 32
8.5 / 14.38 / 32.18
8.38 / 14.5 / 32.25
8.62 / 14.5 / 32.35


Two other Black Label decks in that range that I am a big fan of:

8.5 / 14.5 / 32.38
8.75 / 14.5 / 32.25

[FrAnKenFrEd]

I usually ride 8.25-8.5 DLX boards with 14-14.25 wheelbase on Venture 5.8s.

I’m 6’2” and 210 lbs and those boards have been starting to feel too short.

Looking at sizing up to the 8.62, 14.75 wheelbase Antihero, but I’m not sure what trucks to use. With that long of a wheelbase, I worry Ventures wouldn’t be a good match.

Currently leaning toward Thunder T-2 151s or the new hollow version of the Indy Stage IVs.

Any thoughts?

I'm a fan of the 8.62". Had many over the years. I'm currently on one on T2 151s. My flip tricks aren't on point at the moment but I'm blaming the big bulky Radial Fulls I am using. Everything else is great.

I'd also consider Ace 60s. I personally wouldn't bother with Stage 4s. T2s and Ace will have you covered.

[swongolianbbq]

I think after skating my "generic" setup for a while, I know what I want to tweak, and it's pretty much just switching from 14.25" wb to 14". I'm 5' 8" and I think I might have a better time on 14s.

I also want to try pepper XG again... last deck I had it on only lasted a couple hours before snapping.

 Kinda want some 93a f4 classics again. My new strategy is to skate 54mm F4 classics down to say, 50mm, and sell them to people who skate venture lows for like $15/set so I can stay consistent

So still 8.25, 149 standards, and 54mm classics, but now with shorter wheelbase, grippier griptape, and softer wheels

[Mbrimson88]

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I usually ride 8.25-8.5 DLX boards with 14-14.25 wheelbase on Venture 5.8s.

I’m 6’2” and 210 lbs and those boards have been starting to feel too short.

Looking at sizing up to the 8.62, 14.75 wheelbase Antihero, but I’m not sure what trucks to use. With that long of a wheelbase, I worry Ventures wouldn’t be a good match.

Currently leaning toward Thunder T-2 151s or the new hollow version of the Indy Stage IVs.

Any thoughts?

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Why not try DLX 8.38? Wheelbase is 14.5, that’s a quarter inch longer and the width measures closer to 8.5. You won’t have to try new trucks. It’s also a very common shape from them so if you like it you’ll have no problems getting that shape again.

The 8.38 with 14.5 wb works really well on the T-II trucks I have on right now, but I don't know how well it would go on Ventures, or coming from Ventures, but people can always swap in 100 duro bushings and the trucks firm up really well then, as that was the first thing I tested on one setup - left one stock and switched up bushings on the other set just to see, when I got a few sets of the T-II trucks recently.

As for all the other options people have said, really I think any or all of those would work with whatever deck, trucks, mix and match options, but then it is just down to what you are used to and what you want to get to try, or even how quickly you want things to work for you, when compared to your current setup.

If you were to add another setup in the mix but still have your current one, that could be easier to then take the time to just break everything in nicely first, rather than jumping on the new setup as your only board and then finding it difficult to adjust.  Some people I know have a bigger board, loose trucks, just to warm up on and do some laps which can not only get that board working well, but also not be quite such a shock with the change from everything you are currently on.

Any which way, it could be good for some people to have options, but then others might only get mixed up and things just not feel good on any setup from having combinations of boards, even if one is just a warm up lap type setup, while the other is the main go to for everything else.

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Well…I had a whole other door-to-Madness open up on me this afternoon that I never saw coming…

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The pairing of shoes and board is something that is often overlooked, but I think it does deserve a bit of consideration.

I used to always wear skate shoes in size 11 to skate in, then a mix of 11 and 12 for work (all still skate shoes, mostly Vans but some others too over the years) until I developed ingrown toenails, especially my right / back foot big toe nail, so then would wear 11.5 when I could get them but gave up and have pretty much just gone for 12 now.

At first they were way too big, some more than others, but then my board also started to feel small when I was in anything other than 11s, so I ended up going up a board size too - now around 8.5, or DLX 8.38, but also branched out to have 8.75 and others on the go too.  Maybe my foot shape has molded more to the bigger shoes, because they don't feel half as big as they used to, or maybe I am just more used to them, but flips are almost non existent in bigger shoes.

Some shoes will work way better on some width boards, some shoes just don't seem to work as well, so as I still have a lot of 11 and some 11.5 shoes, I skated in those today, in thin socks and everything on any board just felt so easy, balanced and the shoes felt thin enough to get a lot closer to the board.

Those same boards had felt almost awkward yesterday in some 12s of a different style, but both were still the regular Vans vulc soles, so there shouldn't have been much in it.


Long story short, yes different shoes will make a board feel way better, or not so good, maybe more so for some people, or even for what you want to skate, eg having a flat ground session in thicker shoes might be easier, having a transition session in thinner shoes might also be easier, but thin shoes when I am trying to do too much at a skatepark or street type stuff is just a bad combination usually.

I also wonder if the current state of the shoes makes much difference, eg newer shoes work better for more rolling around and not doing a whole lot of tech stuff, just nicely broken in shoes are best for the tech stuff, maybe a little more worn in for transition, but also sometimes well worn shoes with new grip on transition is good, but old shoes on street just hurts, unless I am only rolling round a carpark trying to break in new bushings or something similar.


* For you Sk8 Hi on bigger boards, Old Skools on smaller boards, might be the winning combination there, until the thinner shoes start causing too much pain to your old injury...  Who knows though!?!

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...When I was fiddling with board sizes I was watching interviews of my fav pros describing their setup and I always wished (upon a star) they mentioned their shoe size. I gave up on finding that info and it felt weird trying to find it anyway lol

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I'll one up you and say I wished they gave their inseam length so I can correlate leg length along with shoe size to triangulate the ideal width and wheelbase.

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You can't even triangulate the ideal width and wheelbase for yourself. I don't think another person's inseam is gonna help you lol

Well the idea is to try the width and wb of someone with the same inseam as me. Leg length I would think effects what wb works the best. Even more than a person's height.

[Sedition]

….Leg length I would think affects what wb works the best. Even more than a person's height.

Exactly this.

[Rick Trapasso]

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….Leg length I would think affects what wb works the best. Even more than a person's height.

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Exactly this.

I'm 6' 4" 34" inseam. Can confirm.


Need a 14.5 wb

[swongolianbbq]

I think I solved what was fucking me up over the years, where I liked some boards more than others, and it's definitely wheelbase

Width doesn't even matter as much as wheelbase to me, and I'm not against skating a red oval(8.125") on 149s, with the smaller wheels I like.

I think my madness with trucks is gone, I used to want to put like, titanium hangers on standard plates, cutting down top bushings, using the aftermarket cast plates or some plates from 215s to have a longer kingpin, mixing bushing duros, etc

The thing that made me stop was realizing that I could do all that tinkering, and then if like, I landed a trick I'd been trying down something for a while, getting beat up, and finally land on a good one, but fall because of twitchy trucks or something I'd be pissed at myself and think I surely would've landed it on a normal setup

I've been thinking about this stuff all summer after trying to get back to a higher level of skating, a calculated approach to blaming the board

So I think just straight up standard 149s, stock, a hair tighter than nut flush, no extra washers or anything, how I used to do it before I gave a shit

Still sticking to 54mm classics after trying p much everything

So the only difference with my setup now vs 20 years ago?

I'm gonna always shoot for 14" wb. After skating 14.25 all summer to get consistent, I realized those times that my tricks weren't working back then were probably because I was on 14.5 or more wb, and when I was back on 14.25, it was easier. Now I want to go to 14.0" and chill there as long as 8.25 shorts are made

Virtually everything else is the same as 2005. I had switch tres back then too. Gotta get those back.

2005:

8.25 to 8.625
Standard 149s
Classic 52 or 53mm 99a

2025:

Standard 8.25 and 8.5 short ---> 8.25 short
Hollow 149s ---> standard 149s
54mm classics still standing but tried a lotttta wheels this year

I'm glad I rode around on a pretty generic setup for a while, was like a brain reset. Now my like, forever-home setup is pretty much a super generic setup but with the wheelbase tucked in just a bit for my short ass legs

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I studied lots of footage this year, looking at foot placement, stance, weight distribution and stuff

Going back to venture lows like when I was a kid won't suddenly turn me into Wade D or Aimu

Loosening my trucks a bunch isn't going to make me more stylish

Skating big wheels didn't change anything about the way I skated

I need to tinker elsewhere and cause my current life situation doesn't support that, I got way too analytical about my bloard

im ready to change

I'm totally fine with being picky about 14" wb. I can deal w/that.

[tzhangdox]

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….Leg length I would think affects what wb works the best. Even more than a person's height.

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Exactly this.

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I'm 6' 4" 34" inseam. Can confirm.

Need a 14.5 wb

How does that confirm? Thats a normal inseam for being 6ft4 and 14.5 is also a pretty normal, albeit slightly longer wheelbase length.

I've been considering the overall length of the board more lately, to me its just as important since that + wheelbase somewhat determine the length of your kicks, which also affects the pop. Sometimes having more overall length is more confidence inducing than just having a long wheelbase imo. Obviously all these factors are very important and its hard to make blanket statements as they all interact with each other. Stressful to think about

[Rick Trapasso]

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….Leg length I would think affects what wb works the best. Even more than a person's height.

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Exactly this.

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I'm 6' 4" 34" inseam. Can confirm.

Need a 14.5 wb

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How does that confirm? Thats a normal inseam for being 6ft4 and 14.5 is also a pretty normal, albeit slightly longer wheelbase length.

I've been considering the overall length of the board more lately, to me its just as important since that + wheelbase somewhat determine the length of your kicks, which also affects the pop. Sometimes having more overall length is more confidence inducing than just having a long wheelbase imo. Obviously all these factors are very important and its hard to make blanket statements as they all interact with each other. Stressful to think about

From what I've read on here it seems like most people prefer shorter wb than that. Normally 14.25 and under. But I could be wrong, idk haha.

I would like to try a longer wb tbh, but I can't find a shape I like with something longer that isn't wider than 8.5. that's kinda where I maxx out width wise (unless we're talking a cruiser or something)

I tried that dlx 8.62 with a 14.75 wb I think? And it generally felt pretty good in terms of wb/length but the width and kicks were not to my liking. I normally skate the 8.38 14.5 wb dlx for reference.

[swongolianbbq]

When I think about Reynolds skating 14.25" wb it starts to really make sense for me at 5'8" to go down to 14.0"

There's definitely less available boards but I skate 149s and there's plenty of 8.25 and 8.125 out there

I wanted to make 14.25 work because they're literally everywhere and on all widths but like, life is short and it's prolly gonna be worth it to me to just switch to 14" at this point

Sucks cause 8.5 x 14.25 and 8.25 x 14.25 are industry standard right now

I'm glad hardbody makes so gd many short wb decks cause I'm not a big Primitive fan

There's the occasional sci-fi in the mix for 14" too, and a couple real/AH boards

But man, with 14.25, you just got so many more choices

Fuckin, I like riding blanks anyways so I guess who cares

[tzhangdox]

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….Leg length I would think affects what wb works the best. Even more than a person's height.

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Exactly this.

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I'm 6' 4" 34" inseam. Can confirm.

Need a 14.5 wb

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How does that confirm? Thats a normal inseam for being 6ft4 and 14.5 is also a pretty normal, albeit slightly longer wheelbase length.

I've been considering the overall length of the board more lately, to me its just as important since that + wheelbase somewhat determine the length of your kicks, which also affects the pop. Sometimes having more overall length is more confidence inducing than just having a long wheelbase imo. Obviously all these factors are very important and its hard to make blanket statements as they all interact with each other. Stressful to think about

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From what I've read on here it seems like most people prefer shorter wb than that. Normally 14.25 and under. But I could be wrong, idk haha.

I would like to try a longer wb tbh, but I can't find a shape I like with something longer that isn't wider than 8.5. that's kinda where I maxx out width wise (unless we're talking a cruiser or something)

I tried that dlx 8.62 with a 14.75 wb I think? And it generally felt pretty good in terms of wb/length but the width and kicks were not to my liking. I normally skate the 8.38 14.5 wb dlx for reference.

Yeah, for me most boards with wb over 14.5 feel like a bit too much to throw around

I'm 6ft5, same inseam as you, size 13. I think as long as I don't go under 14.25, and the board isn't shorter than 32, I'm pretty comfortable. Usually am on ventures though, on some shorter wb trucks I'd probably want to stick to 14.38-14.5.

Currently on the AWS 8.25 shape, 32.25 14.25. Feels great on ventures, really comfortable

Something like the 8.62 14.75 would be super comfortable for skating fast etc, but definitely a lot more skateboard than I need.

[swongolianbbq]

Y'all tall folks riding 14.25s just further confirming my decision to seek out 14s 😆

[Obijuan91]

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….Leg length I would think affects what wb works the best. Even more than a person's height.

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Exactly this.

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I'm 6' 4" 34" inseam. Can confirm.

Need a 14.5 wb

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How does that confirm? Thats a normal inseam for being 6ft4 and 14.5 is also a pretty normal, albeit slightly longer wheelbase length.

I've been considering the overall length of the board more lately, to me its just as important since that + wheelbase somewhat determine the length of your kicks, which also affects the pop. Sometimes having more overall length is more confidence inducing than just having a long wheelbase imo. Obviously all these factors are very important and its hard to make blanket statements as they all interact with each other. Stressful to think about

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From what I've read on here it seems like most people prefer shorter wb than that. Normally 14.25 and under. But I could be wrong, idk haha.

I would like to try a longer wb tbh, but I can't find a shape I like with something longer that isn't wider than 8.5. that's kinda where I maxx out width wise (unless we're talking a cruiser or something)

I tried that dlx 8.62 with a 14.75 wb I think? And it generally felt pretty good in terms of wb/length but the width and kicks were not to my liking. I normally skate the 8.38 14.5 wb dlx for reference.

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Yeah, for me most boards with wb over 14.5 feel like a bit too much to throw around

I'm 6ft5, same inseam as you, size 13. I think as long as I don't go under 14.25, and the board isn't shorter than 32, I'm pretty comfortable. Usually am on ventures though, on some shorter wb trucks I'd probably want to stick to 14.38-14.5.

Currently on the AWS 8.25 shape, 32.25 14.25. Feels great on ventures, really comfortable

Something like the 8.62 14.75 would be super comfortable for skating fast etc, but definitely a lot more skateboard than I need.

Glass house has the 8.25 in a 14.5 wheelbase

Y'all tall folks riding 14.25s just further confirming my decision to seek out 14s 😆

14.125
14 to squirmy for me. Trying 14.25 right now to make sure if I like it or not and so far not a fan of where my foot goes to get a solid Ollie. Kinda was used to it farther up

[Teethcanbesexy]

You all might feel good on 14 but it won’t be home like 14.25