Tyshawn Jones and the Obstacle Clearing Controversy by Judy Blume

[Murge]

Skating is a lot more enjoyable in my opinion when you don't seek out perfection. Dude switch ollied over a picnic table long ways. I don't care if his back trick clipped the edge or if he went 3 inches to the side; that's crazy as hell.

I weirdly would count it more if his back truck or tail clipped the edge. But him cutting the corner. Not so much

[decoi1]

Until someone steps up and does it better or cleaner or whatever, Tyshawn gets to own that shit

[versacekid420]

We’re people nitpicking this hard when Alex Olson clearly clipped on the regular lengthwise ollie?

he didn’t clip he just went beside it

[Grrrreencans]

If the switch ollie don't count T-Funks ollie don't count because he took off halfway into the bench. Obviously both very much count.

[Mean salto]

If the switch ollie don't count T-Funks ollie don't count because he took off halfway into the bench. Obviously both very much count.

Different things tho. If it's decided that t funks Ollie didn't clear the full Bench does everytime somebody's grinded a rail not count because they don't land at the very top of the rail?
(I'm also saying tyshawns stuff counts but not denying it could of been done a little better)

[Tear Up a Trick]

Brandon Chapman Public Domain ollies over the thing people cared about that maybe first time?

But It's Not the End of the World; Tyshawn's got Tiger Eyes.

[HisNameIsntWarren]

How it’s done. Mark me down for doesn’t really count.

[excitableboy]

Incredible part and played at full speed it fooled me. Not quite a table length switch ollie of course. But cutting corners or not he's blazing the trail.

Love me a good nitpick. Not sure what else UWTB is meant to be for.

[Groondor the Orc]

Nitpicking is good it keeps things honest.

He’s also playing the SOTY game. Suciu got the same treatment last year and ended up winning almost everyone over…but some still found things to criticise.

Nothing wrong with that.

Like Suciu, Tyshawn is kinda polarising at this point in his career. Penny and *Daewon got the same treatment in their early years. You have to keep plugging away. Not everyone can be Busenitz or Tiago. Also, none of those guys ever got a single SOTY so it’s all BS anyway.

*except Daewon lol

[IpathCats]

The "don't judge or be critical of skateboarding" take is so bad haha.

Tyshawn landed both of those tricks. Were they perfect? No. But I doubt he thinks they're perfect either. If he's ok with putting out clips like that, it's on him.

Videos are for entertainment, people put plenty of things that aren't perfect clean makes in them.

[backside_frontside]

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We’re people nitpicking this hard when Alex Olson clearly clipped on the regular lengthwise ollie?

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he didn’t clip he just went beside it

So even fucking worse than clipping lol, he didn’t even ollie over the fucking thing. I hate Alex Olson, what a fucking chump. Didn’t TJ kickflip a table lengthwise?? Eat shit AO

[versacekid420]

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We’re people nitpicking this hard when Alex Olson clearly clipped on the regular lengthwise ollie?

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he didn’t clip he just went beside it

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So even fucking worse than clipping lol, he didn’t even ollie over the fucking thing. I hate Alex Olson, what a fucking chump. Didn’t TJ kickflip a table lengthwise?? Eat shit AO

sure did. and ty evans even made sure to put it in slow mo in the pretty sweet teaser hahaha

[Manolo]

[Arto!Arto!WakeUp!]

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If the switch ollie don't count T-Funks ollie don't count because he took off halfway into the bench. Obviously both very much count.

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Different things tho. If it's decided that t funks Ollie didn't clear the full Bench does everytime somebody's grinded a rail not count because they don't land at the very top of the rail?
(I'm also saying tyshawns stuff counts but not denying it could of been done a little better)

not really. in both cases the trick was to ollie over something, in both cases they *maybe* didn't quite go over the whole thing. it's really a pretty perfect comparison. your rail analogy is a bit mad.

[Mean salto]

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If the switch ollie don't count T-Funks ollie don't count because he took off halfway into the bench. Obviously both very much count.

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Different things tho. If it's decided that t funks Ollie didn't clear the full Bench does everytime somebody's grinded a rail not count because they don't land at the very top of the rail?
(I'm also saying tyshawns stuff counts but not denying it could of been done a little better)

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not really. in both cases the trick was to ollie over something, in both cases they *maybe* didn't quite go over the whole thing. it's really a pretty perfect comparison. your rail analogy is a bit mad.

Just saying it's pretty common to miss the beginning on both things and it's never been said it didn't count before. Unless there's an actual channel gap it's pretty common on transition for the person to carve a bit before they air, grind whatever. If it makes people feel better I guess they could say tfunk Ollied around the long bench if they wanna be real sticklers

[everythingisgreat]

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We’re people nitpicking this hard when Alex Olson clearly clipped on the regular lengthwise ollie?

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he didn’t clip he just went beside it

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So even fucking worse than clipping lol, he didn’t even ollie over the fucking thing. I hate Alex Olson, what a fucking chump. Didn’t TJ kickflip a table lengthwise?? Eat shit AO

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sure did. and ty evans even made sure to put it in slow mo in the pretty sweet teaser hahaha

Had to rewatch the teaser- that AO full table ollie feels “rule breaking” in the art of skateboard filmmaking. IMO you are not supposed to use camera trickery to claim a trick, it’s documentary style, capturing what is done/possible…

[everythingisgreat]

The "don't judge or be critical of skateboarding" take is so bad haha.

Tyshawn landed both of those tricks. Were they perfect? No. But I doubt he thinks they're perfect either. If he's ok with putting out clips like that, it's on him.

Videos are for entertainment, people put plenty of things that aren't perfect clean makes in them.

Solid

[Atiba Applebum]

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We’re people nitpicking this hard when Alex Olson clearly clipped on the regular lengthwise ollie?

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he didn’t clip he just went beside it

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So even fucking worse than clipping lol, he didn’t even ollie over the fucking thing. I hate Alex Olson, what a fucking chump. Didn’t TJ kickflip a table lengthwise?? Eat shit AO

I don’t understand this and feel like I missed some expose.  When rewatched, it appears he’s over the table in the part and he has no shadow on the ground so the table is blocking it.   It happens so fast that I never questioned it before and I still don’t really see the complaints now

[SHARPSHOOTER]

Wow I never noticed AO ollies beside it. If you watch the first angle you can go slow mo and pause as he’s popping over the front. His back truck is clearly behind the table because if he did straight on he would have hung up.

Even his Ollie over the pillar at J-Kwon floats off the side of it not completely over top

[excitableboy]

Tyshawn's pop is over the top even if he didn't pop over the top.

One too many limoncellos tonight. Will see myself out.

[Mongey]

He did it. But could’ve done it better for sure.

[passtheish]

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It seems that a lot of people on here don’t really understand how geometry works. If he didn’t make the whole table, where do you think he’s landing? He didn’t fall short and then the seat and corner of table dematerialised so he could go through them and roll away. Draw a rectangle and then add two narrower rectangles on either side and draw an aerial view, two dimensional diagram of how you think he didn’t clear it. Show us the path you think the switch ollie took that doesn’t make the whole table, because I’m super confused by what people think he’s doing wrong.

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The 2 narrower rectangles you are talking about are also lower than the big rectangle. That’s the issue. By your example not talking about height your saying you’d be just as impressed by him switch olling an empty parking spot long ways? No. The height makes it impressive drifting over to the bench side means if he didn’t drift he would have possible clipped the table and not landed it. That’s the issue. It’s like saying I Ollie next to a fire hydrant and clear it it counts? It doesn’t. It’s not over it. That’s the issue.

I say this as a fan of tyshawn. But I ain’t sucking his dick like some of y’all.

being a contrarian just to call other people dick riders is still dick riding lol

[slothflip]

i think its more odd he just didnt refilm it since its obvious he can do it clean. his shadow on the the edge of the table during decent is unfortunate.

[pleasent street]

and in the tyshawn vid it's almost like his boys aren't sure if he's going to claim it or not so they wait to cheer until he gives them the look ahah

[pleasent street]

wait no sorry that didn't happen. i've been drinking

[J booz]

I think it's weird that thrasher put that switch Ollie on the cover because i assume he didn't land it that day since they show that clip of him eating shit in the same outfit on the cover and the make he's wearing a different fit. So he must have  went back to get it anpther day and thrasher ran a photo of a non make on the cover which theyve said they never do. Thrasher brags about only running makes in the mag. That's the real controversy to me. I actually think skatin picnic tables the long way is kinda dumb

[Murge]

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It seems that a lot of people on here don’t really understand how geometry works. If he didn’t make the whole table, where do you think he’s landing? He didn’t fall short and then the seat and corner of table dematerialised so he could go through them and roll away. Draw a rectangle and then add two narrower rectangles on either side and draw an aerial view, two dimensional diagram of how you think he didn’t clear it. Show us the path you think the switch ollie took that doesn’t make the whole table, because I’m super confused by what people think he’s doing wrong.

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The 2 narrower rectangles you are talking about are also lower than the big rectangle. That’s the issue. By your example not talking about height your saying you’d be just as impressed by him switch olling an empty parking spot long ways? No. The height makes it impressive drifting over to the bench side means if he didn’t drift he would have possible clipped the table and not landed it. That’s the issue. It’s like saying I Ollie next to a fire hydrant and clear it it counts? It doesn’t. It’s not over it. That’s the issue.

I say this as a fan of tyshawn. But I ain’t sucking his dick like some of y’all.

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being a contrarian just to call other people dick riders is still dick riding lol

Nah. I can be a fan of someone but still be able to see that there’s issues with him “drifting” and that it’s not over the table. It’s over part of a table and part of the tables bench. 

[theoriginalgoon]

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We’re people nitpicking this hard when Alex Olson clearly clipped on the regular lengthwise ollie?

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he didn’t clip he just went beside it

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So even fucking worse than clipping lol, he didn’t even ollie over the fucking thing. I hate Alex Olson, what a fucking chump. Didn’t TJ kickflip a table lengthwise?? Eat shit AO

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I don’t understand this and feel like I missed some expose.  When rewatched, it appears he’s over the table in the part and he has no shadow on the ground so the table is blocking it.   It happens so fast that I never questioned it before and I still don’t really see the complaints now

[fakie nollie]

So we all agree that he needs to be shunned into quitting skateboarding right

[manysnakes]

I think it's weird that thrasher put that switch Ollie on the cover because i assume he didn't land it that day since they show that clip of him eating shit in the same outfit on the cover and the make he's wearing a different fit. So he must have  went back to get it anpther day and thrasher ran a photo of a non make on the cover which theyve said they never do. Thrasher brags about only running makes in the mag. That's the real controversy to me. I actually think skatin picnic tables the long way is kinda dumb

It’s entirely possible he was just working with a photographer that day.