Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)

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Skated my 8.5 ST1 hollows for the first time today. Previous to these I was on Venture lows for 20 years, then Thunder for 5, and have spent the last few months on Indy stage 11 standards. Loved the Indy’s other than the weight. Onto the Slappys. The first trucks I’ve ever set up and not had to adjust from the get go. I may even need to loosen them a half turn but out of the box they felt great. They accomplished my goal of dropping some weight from the Indys and regaining my manual tricks that I lost with the Indys. My only negative was they didn’t grind as smooth as my previous trucks but I’ll chalk that up to them being brand new. As my session went on they got a little smoother. All in all I’m happy with them after an hour long session this morning.

[rikki]

Man, I just realized Slappys are c. 54mm in height and c. +3.1" regarding effective wheelbase.

If these stand correct, I might have found my next favorite truck on paper.

Now all I gotta do is try a pair.

Currently on Indy Titanium 149, which I really like with a BBS 8.25/14.38 shape.

Hmm. Madness ahead?

[rawbertson.]

Lurpiv has pretty similar dimensions and geometry as well. I dont know what the exact WB pushout is but its similar to thunders, you can just tell by the way they turn. It is basically the complete opposite of Ace. I was pretty set on Slappys but I had to drive an hour to get them and my local got Lurpivs and they delivered what I was hoping to get from Slappy. I actually could use the extra height too cause im on 58mm wheels. The bushings are really good on Lurpiv too. I have heard someone in this thread complaining about the top washer on Slappy trucks destroys the bushing which is not great to hear. But I imagine they have quite good bushings too just from what I have seen. They have to be better than DLX bushings.

[rikki]

Lurpiv has pretty similar dimensions and geometry as well. I dont know what the exact WB pushout is but its similar to thunders, you can just tell by the way they turn. It is basically the complete opposite of Ace. I was pretty set on Slappys but I had to drive an hour to get them and my local got Lurpivs and they delivered what I was hoping to get from Slappy. I actually could use the extra height too cause im on 58mm wheels. The bushings are really good on Lurpiv too. I have heard someone in this thread complaining about the top washer on Slappy trucks destroys the bushing which is not great to hear. But I imagine they have quite good bushings too just from what I have seen. They have to be better than DLX bushings.

Any idea what the Slappy bottom bushing height is? From what I've read on Slap, the Slappy top is 9.5mm which is the same as Venture stock top.

[Rick Trapasso]

So is the final verdict on slappy ikp is that they come loose on their own like most other ikp?

[Xen]

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Lurpiv has pretty similar dimensions and geometry as well. I dont know what the exact WB pushout is but its similar to thunders, you can just tell by the way they turn. It is basically the complete opposite of Ace. I was pretty set on Slappys but I had to drive an hour to get them and my local got Lurpivs and they delivered what I was hoping to get from Slappy. I actually could use the extra height too cause im on 58mm wheels. The bushings are really good on Lurpiv too. I have heard someone in this thread complaining about the top washer on Slappy trucks destroys the bushing which is not great to hear. But I imagine they have quite good bushings too just from what I have seen. They have to be better than DLX bushings.

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Any idea what the Slappy bottom bushing height is? From what I've read on Slap, the Slappy top is 9.5mm which is the same as Venture stock top.

Same as Venture/Indy.

Stock slappy top is shorter than venture and compresses way waaaaaaaaaaaaaay down to a low top (which is awesome).

[hiljentaa]

I really don't need any more trucks, but I was tempted by the lows until I saw they have a hollow axle. Weird that they are only putting them out with hollow axle and kingpin so far.

[Xen]

I really don't need any more trucks, but I was tempted by the lows until I saw they have a hollow axle. Weird that they are only putting them out with hollow axle and kingpin so far.

I would have assumed a 'standard' low at min, or at least forged...

[radcunt]

I like how slappy has heaps of spreadsheets just showing facts.  Pandering to the Slap dorkery, an appreciated move.  They're claiming true to wheelbase axle placements, which is cool.

[pointandclick]

I like how slappy has heaps of spreadsheets just showing facts.  Pandering to the Slap dorkery, an appreciated move.  They're claiming true to wheelbase axle placements, which is cool.

i think this is pretty misleading. not showing the actual displacement skews this chart. not saying they aren't in the middle, but they should start with the actual "true" wheelbase on say a 14.25 wb. also saying thunder and venture are the same is wrong especially considering forged and cast arent the same.

[LewFarrell]

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I like how slappy has heaps of spreadsheets just showing facts.  Pandering to the Slap dorkery, an appreciated move.  They're claiming true to wheelbase axle placements, which is cool.

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i think this is pretty misleading. not showing the actual displacement skews this chart. not saying they aren't in the middle, but they should start with the actual "true" wheelbase on say a 14.25 wb. also saying thunder and venture are the same is wrong especially considering forged and cast arent the same.

It’s a Reddit level chart.

[Mbrimson88]

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I like how slappy has heaps of spreadsheets just showing facts.  Pandering to the Slap dorkery, an appreciated move.  They're claiming true to wheelbase axle placements, which is cool.

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i think this is pretty misleading. not showing the actual displacement skews this chart. not saying they aren't in the middle, but they should start with the actual "true" wheelbase on say a 14.25 wb. also saying thunder and venture are the same is wrong especially considering forged and cast arent the same.

I was thinking something similar, but I guess when it is someone specifically using this as a selling tool, of course they are going to make it all about their own product.  It would be silly to think otherwise.

That said, yes, those other trucks are not the same, Thunder, then Venture cast, then Venture forged as the longest, but having too many options on it would take away from the white middle point - again, focus on the selling point of them being very much middle of the road and everything else is just there round it.

Indy is pretty much an even 3.0 with Ace being 2.75 or so, with Slappy being 3.125 and then the others longer again.

I am still yet to even see Slappy and try a set, but I feel like I have enough options right now with the main four, so it is not a big deal to me.  Maybe if someone I knew had a set or I could see them in person, it might be different, but I am in no rush.

Good luck to them anyway.  At least from what others have said, they are a decent truck.


* Had the decimal place in the wrong spot - late nights don't agree with me sometimes.

[rikki]

That chart is whack. I mean, Venture pushes the wb out a whole lot more that what the chart indicates.

[BeachChicken]

He's got Thunder and Venturr wrong, but they're closer than what Slap reports. For me Thunder are +8.125 on the dot and Venture cast slightly more maybe 3.18 or something. Venture forged is like 3.3. Problem is that it's only 1 part of the equation. Showing a board on the ground instead of the shot they used would should how Indy's tuck the wheels but also get higher. The net pop angle is within a few decimal places of my Venture cast, but it feels different for sure. I think since Indy are taller the tail takes a tad longer to hit but there is more momentum from a bigger arc? I'm not a physicist, but that's how it makes sense to me.

[Officer Caruthers]

Has anyone tried out the new bushings yet? It looks like they come in 85a, 90a and 100a

[Xen]

Has anyone tried out the new bushings yet? It looks like they come in 85a, 90a and 100a

I have the 100s, they're very very hard.

[rikki]

Missing a duro at the 94 range, but yeah, their branding and packaging is on point.

[pugmaster]

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Has anyone tried out the new bushings yet? It looks like they come in 85a, 90a and 100a

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I have the 100s, they're very very hard.

I haven't checked this thread in ages. That is dope that all their bushings are white regardless of hardness.

I didn't know the Slappy lows were already upon us. I messaged him like a man, but didn't receive a response, so I messaged his wife to say that they should release a Pug colorway of the low truck, preferably fawn/black, where they put a curly tail on one truck and the Pug face on the other truck so you can tell nose from the tail and call it the Mi-lo since his little munchkin that recently passed was named Milo. Hopefully they come out and they contribute a certain percentage to Pug rescues or something.

[moonordie]

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Has anyone tried out the new bushings yet? It looks like they come in 85a, 90a and 100a

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I have the 100s, they're very very hard.

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I haven't checked this thread in ages. That is dope that all their bushings are white regardless of hardness.

I didn't know the Slappy lows were already upon us. I messaged him like a man, but didn't receive a response, so I messaged his wife to say that they should release a Pug colorway of the low truck, preferably fawn/black, where they put a curly tail on one truck and the Pug face on the other truck so you can tell nose from the tail and call it the Mi-lo since his little munchkin that recently passed was named Milo. Hopefully they come out and they contribute a certain percentage to Pug rescues or something.

That sounds like Krux

[Amocat]

I  ordered another set of the 100a bushings, they arrived and have a larger top washer with them, about 1.5mm larger. I think this would fix the whole washer eats the bushing immediately issue that I and a few others experienced.

[Xen]

I  ordered another set of the 100a bushings, they arrived and have a larger top washer with them, about 1.5mm larger. I think this would fix the whole washer eats the bushing immediately issue that I and a few others experienced.

Makes sense to be able to update a new run of these (they were sold out for a while) and include the new washer; shame that shitty washer is still shipping with trucks; maybe it's fixed with the lows?

[Dwyck]

running 8.5 standards a couple of sessions. Tried to make stock bushing work but they were so soft so i put indy hards in and the turns alright. clearance is alright still. i hink these trucks lend to still working as intending even when you fuck with geometry. anyway theyre like a far less frustrating dlx truck;turn more than venture and dont dump you to wheelbite like thunder. very very stable, very good return to center. they skate shorter than they are if that makes sense
Chomped some local curbs and I like the grind a lot! the return to center helps stand up on things but they do go a little further than the indy 159s I was running on my janky rock-filled curbs

[Ol Scrapey]

Whattup yall, first time poster , me lurkey long time.

Have some personal nerd shit on Slappys to share , maybe someone wants this info (& maybe not!)

Been on ST1 hollows 8.5 for a bit now, I’m a former Ace gripper but have been converted.

The 54mm height works perfect for me w/ no risers , I dig it.

However , when Slappy was releasing the Lows (@50mm) AND Slappy Slab risers in both 2mm & 4mm heights (both hard plastic , none of that shock pad bullshit) I saw an opportunity to drive myself even more crazy, with fine tuning truck height as I please/ per deck.

As a normal 1/8” riser is 3.175mm (which I’m just gonna call 3mm henceforth) , you have the opportunity to have the height of 50, 52, 53, 54, 55 (2+3) 56 (2+4) etc by mixing and matching

The 50 isn’t useful to me but the rest is ..

The only caveat here is that the Slappy Lows actually provide a *slightly* shorter wheelbase overall than the ST1s  - which I suspected , but obvs didn’t wanna trust my eyes so I set both up on the same deck and measured both sides axle to axle and avg’ed - and low and behold - 1/8” shorter wheelbase on the Lows.. No huge deal to some but worth noting for me …

Princess and the pea shit over here 🥴

[Xen]

I really want a set of lows!

The problem is, given how the models have rolled out...the standard lows just dropped so we can expect the low IKP next, followed a few months later by the forged low IKP....

[Ol Scrapey]

Oh - I also weighed the lows . I bought the Lows in 8.75 so I had the option of hanger length too , I.e. I could swap the 8.5 hollow hanger I already had onto the lows, or vice versa — the new 8.75 hanger onto the standard height ST1 hollow baseplate. As the hangers are unchanged .

So this weight is for the 8.75 Low
366g


Slappy says the 8.5 ST1 hollow is 368g

So I imagine just slightly lighter with the 8.5, at some point I’ll actually weigh that set up

So just some extra info to pass,  hadn’t seen weights yet for the lows

[Xen]

Oh - I also weighed the lows . I bought the Lows in 8.75 so I had the option of hanger length too , I.e. I could swap the 8.5 hollow hanger I already had onto the lows, or vice versa — the new 8.75 hanger onto the standard height ST1 hollow baseplate. As the hangers are unchanged .

So this weight is for the 8.75 Low
366g


Slappy says the 8.5 ST1 hollow is 368g

So I imagine just slightly lighter with the 8.5, at some point I’ll actually weigh that set up

So just some extra info to pass,  hadn’t seen weights yet for the lows

Did you snap any pics of the low plate bottom? Is it hex? Wonder if it's worth just banging out that stock pin and throwing in an IKP, depending on how much GK you'd net.

[Ol Scrapey]

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Oh - I also weighed the lows . I bought the Lows in 8.75 so I had the option of hanger length too , I.e. I could swap the 8.5 hollow hanger I already had onto the lows, or vice versa — the new 8.75 hanger onto the standard height ST1 hollow baseplate. As the hangers are unchanged .

So this weight is for the 8.75 Low
366g


Slappy says the 8.5 ST1 hollow is 368g

So I imagine just slightly lighter with the 8.5, at some point I’ll actually weigh that set up

So just some extra info to pass,  hadn’t seen weights yet for the lows

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Did you snap any pics of the low plate bottom? Is it hex? Wonder if it's worth just banging out that stock pin and throwing in an IKP, depending on how much GK you'd net.

It honestly looked like both , like almost a hex adapter that a round/splined kingpin had been pressed into?
I’ll try and take a pic sometime tomorrow and post it to show ya what I mean

[Ol Scrapey]

Here is a photo of the bottom of the Low baseplate , hopefully you can see what I mean - either way tho- should def be able to put a hex head in …

[Ol Scrapey]

Here is a photo of the bottom of the Low baseplate , hopefully you can see what I mean - either way tho- should def be able to put a hex head in …

And sorry for the dog hair on there lol .. I promise those aren’t my Arctic white body hairs 😆

[Xen]

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Here is a photo of the bottom of the Low baseplate , hopefully you can see what I mean - either way tho- should def be able to put a hex head in …

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And sorry for the dog hair on there lol .. I promise those aren’t my Arctic white body hairs 😆

Cool, thanks! The cavity doesn't look deep enough to not have the nut dig into board (like trying to get thunder forged plates working with an IKP).

Gonna hold until at least the forged lows hit (they are coming)...be cool to see a forged IKP low. For now I'm bacak on forged mindys with a hollow slappy pin, shittier GC and a few grams heavier but it'll do for now. Kinda off regular slappies now, they're amazing, but I can really feel the height diff stepping on them or regular (even forged indys). Apparently my muscle memory still prefers thos only thunder 149ers