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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #510 on: October 10, 2024, 02:37:23 PM »
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Here is a photo of the bottom of the Low baseplate , hopefully you can see what I mean - either way tho- should def be able to put a hex head in …

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Cool, thanks! The cavity doesn't look deep enough to not have the nut dig into board (like trying to get thunder forged plates working with an IKP).

Gonna hold until at least the forged lows hit (they are coming)...be cool to see a forged IKP low. For now I'm bacak on forged mindys with a hollow slappy pin, shittier GC and a few grams heavier but it'll do for now. Kinda off regular slappies now, they're amazing, but I can really feel the height diff stepping on them or regular (even forged indys). Apparently my muscle memory still prefers thos only thunder 149ers ;)

Makes sense! .. & yeah, stoked to see what else they got coming..

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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #511 on: October 10, 2024, 05:01:39 PM »
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Here is a photo of the bottom of the Low baseplate , hopefully you can see what I mean - either way tho- should def be able to put a hex head in …

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And sorry for the dog hair on there lol .. I promise those aren’t my Arctic white body hairs 😆
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Cool, thanks! The cavity doesn't look deep enough to not have the nut dig into board (like trying to get thunder forged plates working with an IKP).

Gonna hold until at least the forged lows hit (they are coming)...be cool to see a forged IKP low. For now I'm bacak on forged mindys with a hollow slappy pin, shittier GC and a few grams heavier but it'll do for now. Kinda off regular slappies now, they're amazing, but I can really feel the height diff stepping on them or regular (even forged indys). Apparently my muscle memory still prefers thos only thunder 149ers ;)

Regular Slappys are 0.4mm taller than forged Indys.

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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #512 on: October 13, 2024, 12:28:11 AM »
And (?) the Forged Mid Indy, mindys, are 50.5mm tall, slappy lows 0.5 lower at 50mm.

This is a mid Indy to slappy low comparison, not regular vs forged (I noted I dislike the height of what you mentioned and favor the forged Mindy).

That is all.

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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #513 on: October 14, 2024, 10:26:37 AM »
Has anyone run the IKPs for a while and found them to be successful at not loosening like I’ve heard Indy IKPs and lurpiv 1.0 doing? (This has prob been asked before, I know, I’m sorry)

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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #514 on: October 14, 2024, 11:22:32 AM »
Has anyone run the IKPs for a while and found them to be successful at not loosening like I’ve heard Indy IKPs and lurpiv 1.0 doing? (This has prob been asked before, I know, I’m sorry)

So is the final verdict on slappy ikp is that they come loose on their own like most other ikp?

Yea I just asked on the last page, no answer yet.

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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #515 on: October 15, 2024, 04:08:05 PM »
Came over from venture cause 6.1s aren’t wide enough. I was worried about losing wheelbase but I guess I had my ventures pretty tight because I’m getting the same measurement axel to axel. After 3 sessions I’m all in. They feel so much better than ventures turning and grinding. I do get some wheelbite but that’s cuz I’m fat. But it’s not the same stop dead wheelbite I get on venture. Just slow down kinda. I got the IKP so I’ll be paying close attention to wether they loosen on they’re own or not.

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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #516 on: October 16, 2024, 05:31:50 PM »
Horrible truck. They are too high and the turn is tippy and not smooth. Can't feeble them at all as the just chuck you forward off the board. They also knock around in the pivot cup making a hideous noise. Maybe the lows are better? 
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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #517 on: October 16, 2024, 07:09:10 PM »
Horrible truck.

Not true.

They are too high

Yeah all those people riding indys at 53.5-55mm or Venture cast at 53.5 must hate their life.

and the turn is tippy and not smooth.

Again, not true/compare to what? More stable than ACE, faster than Indy. The lows turn the same way. Keep steppin'

Can't feeble them at all as the just chuck you forward off the board.

Skill issue, I have zero problems with feebles, awesome grind clearance and move like butta Sounds like you SUCK AT FEEBLES BRUH/GiTGUD. TIP: bend your ankles and point your toes down.

They also knock around in the pivot cup making a hideous noise. Maybe the lows are better? 

No, they don't knock around in the pivot, snug like ACEs.

The lows are not for you, Tensor Alloys can be found on the cheap tho?

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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #518 on: November 13, 2024, 02:48:22 PM »
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I had a chance to buy a set of Slappy trucks the other day, just the normal ones, 8.5 width and have had half a dozen sessions on them now.

As others had said, top bushing takes a beating, so swapped out top washers, now back on originals after the bushings have worn in, as well as trimming up all the bits that were coming out.

The bushings sure did firm up a lot from the first session, to the second and third - didn't expect that quite so much, so even put a thin flat washer on the front for a session just to see and it brought them back to very carvy, which was nice.


The main thing I wanted to check was the kingpin height, which is only 33 mm from the baseplate, which is the most interesting thing to me.  Indy, Thunder and Venture all have kingpins that stick up about 35 mm, with Ace sticking up between 37 on Classics to 38 mm on AF1 trucks.  In a world where even a few mm counts for a lot, a difference of 5 mm in kingpin height is pretty wild to me.  I am used to angle grinding down my Indy kingpins and using low top bushings, so having something like that as stock was good.

Overall they skate really well and I am happy to have them, even though I will still skate Indy on pretty much everything, as well as having boards with Thunder, Venture, Ace just to have a mix up every so often.

Definitely a well made and good feeling truck to me.


Slappy bushings:

Top 9 mm
Bottom 13 mm
Total with stock washers 25.5 mm


* Given this thread is already up to page 18, this is probably not at all new info, but the kingpin heights alone were the most interesting thing to me, compared to the other brands of trucks.


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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #519 on: November 13, 2024, 03:15:03 PM »
It's even better with the IKP versions...currently on the lows and they're great, same turn (with way less wheelbite still and I've been riding 54mm), best grind and amazing grind clearance even without the IKP; haven't had any OCD or desire to move back to royals; Like the pop alot, like forged thunder territory.

Smart to go the ACE route and adjust the baseplate (all my hangers work!) and not fuck it up like indy with the mindy. Hopefully other truck co.s take a page out and work on grind clearance (and not just IKP) shorter pins and slightly lower tops is all you need, just be mindful of bushing duro.

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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #520 on: December 08, 2024, 09:53:01 AM »
Does anyone know if the hanger on the lows is the same as the regular hollows?

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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #521 on: December 08, 2024, 12:54:39 PM »
Does anyone know if the hanger on the lows is the same as the regular hollows?

All slappy hangars are interchangeable. The difference between standard and lows is the baseplate.

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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #522 on: December 08, 2024, 04:07:57 PM »
Slappy 95a bushings are the truth.




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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #523 on: December 09, 2024, 11:50:03 AM »
Does anyone have the Slappy lights with conventional kingpin?

Has anyone compared the turn/wheelbite to Indy stage XI and stage IV? And Ace AF-1?

And what is the weight like compared to the other guys lighter trucks?

I guess I just want to try them out and the holidays are just around the corner.

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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #524 on: December 09, 2024, 03:04:45 PM »
Does anyone have the Slappy lights with conventional kingpin?

Has anyone compared the turn/wheelbite to Indy stage XI and stage IV? And Ace AF-1?

And what is the weight like compared to the other guys lighter trucks?

I guess I just want to try them out and the holidays are just around the corner.


I only have the one set of regular everything, but the turn on them is great, exactly what I needed when skating things I usually skate like my mini ramp and other normal skateparks.  Even took them out to do some laps round a carpark and had no issues with them.  I did make small wheel wells on that board so I could turn deeper, but that is pretty much the same on most boards I ride now anyway with 54+ sized wheels.

Overall these were much the same for weight, so I am guessing the lights are going to be a bit easier if you are weight conscious - I would say comparable to others as well.

Just my thoughts anyway.


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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #525 on: December 10, 2024, 08:10:54 AM »
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Does anyone have the Slappy lights with conventional kingpin?

Has anyone compared the turn/wheelbite to Indy stage XI and stage IV? And Ace AF-1?

And what is the weight like compared to the other guys lighter trucks?

I guess I just want to try them out and the holidays are just around the corner.
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I only have the one set of regular everything, but the turn on them is great, exactly what I needed when skating things I usually skate like my mini ramp and other normal skateparks.  Even took them out to do some laps round a carpark and had no issues with them.  I did make small wheel wells on that board so I could turn deeper, but that is pretty much the same on most boards I ride now anyway with 54+ sized wheels.

Overall these were much the same for weight, so I am guessing the lights are going to be a bit easier if you are weight conscious - I would say comparable to others as well.

Just my thoughts anyway.

Comparing stats from slappytrucks.com and nhsskatedirect.com, seems like slappys are on average 7 grams lighter than a forged hollow on 8.5” and 8.75” and probable the same on 9” vs 9.125” comparatively.
So I kind is answered that myself.

I gotta ride 56/55mm without risers, and I’m wondering whether they’ll do that. I mean I could, but I dislike them.

I’ve tried my current board (AH Huffer) with 159/169 and 151 stage 4. And the way the geometry works on the stg 4, the wheebite mostly doesn’t pitch me, but feels more like controlled braking. I’ve heard the same to be true about AF-1s, but being lower obviously only to a certain degree.



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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #526 on: December 14, 2024, 09:53:17 PM »
anyone skate the slappy lows?
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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #527 on: December 15, 2024, 05:31:16 AM »
I have a pair being delivered tomorrow. I can’t wait to try them out. I have been using Ace lows lately.



anyone skate the slappy lows?

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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #528 on: December 15, 2024, 09:54:08 AM »
What’s this about needing to replace the top washer ?

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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #529 on: December 15, 2024, 10:07:22 AM »
On some of the older slappy trucks, the top washer wasn’t big enough. This would cause the top bushing to mushroom over the washer. I used Indy top washers
and the problem was solved.

What’s this about needing to replace the top washer ?

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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #530 on: December 15, 2024, 12:42:26 PM »
anyone skate the slappy lows?

Been on them since they dropped.

Obvioulsy lower (and you can notice it) as I was coming of regular slappys.

Grind (best), Grind clearance (best), turn/pop just like the regulars. There is more wheelbite than a taller slappy but less wheelbite than the ACE lows. Running the 95a slappy bushings with zero complaints.

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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #531 on: December 15, 2024, 01:02:04 PM »
any pics? @Xen
those sound interesting
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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #532 on: December 15, 2024, 02:13:24 PM »
any pics? @Xen
those sound interesting

Sure, I can take some, but they look just like slappys? :P

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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #533 on: December 15, 2024, 02:32:31 PM »
On some of the older slappy trucks, the top washer wasn’t big enough. This would cause the top bushing to mushroom over the washer. I used Indy top washers
and the problem was solved.

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Oh ok so by the time I get them it probably won’t be a thing

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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #534 on: December 15, 2024, 02:41:30 PM »
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any pics? @Xen
those sound interesting
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Sure, I can take some, but they look just like slappys? :P

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https://youtu.be/x_C4SWOB8EQ?si=hP-5KF4j6fHUjtfw
oh they look hot
might have to frankenstein a 9.0 low
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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #535 on: December 15, 2024, 05:54:35 PM »
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any pics? @Xen
those sound interesting
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Sure, I can take some, but they look just like slappys? :P

sums it up::

https://youtu.be/x_C4SWOB8EQ?si=hP-5KF4j6fHUjtfw
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oh they look hot
might have to frankenstein a 9.0 low
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any pics? @Xen
those sound interesting
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Sure, I can take some, but they look just like slappys? :P

sums it up::

https://youtu.be/x_C4SWOB8EQ?si=hP-5KF4j6fHUjtfw
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oh they look hot
might have to frankenstein a 9.0 low

At 50.5mm it puts them in Thunder forged territory pop-wise but without the wheelbite and just as bit heavier. Stock bushings were too soft, hard bushings were too hard (but super stable and still turned but felt more like a 2-stage turn), the 95a slappys in these are perfect.

Like ACE you can swap whatever hanger yout have onto the low plates; I have yet to put my 8.75" hangers on,  need the ride board.





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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #536 on: January 07, 2025, 05:47:56 PM »
Just copped the lows. Currently skating thunder lights. Anyone know the wheelbase on these? And how do they turn?
We rode 7.5's" and didn't complain.

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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #537 on: January 07, 2025, 07:59:27 PM »
Just copped the lows. Currently skating thunder lights. Anyone know the wheelbase on these? And how do they turn?


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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #538 on: January 08, 2025, 01:58:11 AM »
Thanks G
We rode 7.5's" and didn't complain.

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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #539 on: January 08, 2025, 02:11:57 AM »
That chart is bs. This is more based on reality.

Ace Classic +2.75"
Ace AF1 +3.0"
Indy Standard +3.0“
Indy Forged +3.125“
Lurpiv +3.125”
Royals +3.125”
Slappy +3.125
Thunder cast +3.125”
Thunder forged +3.25"
Venture cast +3.2”
Venture forged +3.4”