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[Jewel Runner]

I used to have a job similar to yours, sitting alone in an office for long hours; I was a data entry clerk. It got really monotonous, just typing away and not interacting with anyone. I found myself feeling bored and unfulfilled, so I started looking for something different.

What are you doing nowadays?

I'm always looking for new carreers to see if I change areas

[slippy]

I'm a data engineer for a large company.  The work is fine but they've been stringing me along with the promise of becoming manager for a year now.  Just heard it looks like it'll be another year at least.  Definitely deflated but I need to just buck up and get that resume together again.  If anyone knows of a company < 750 people they heard good things about and has remote work let ya boi know.  Good luck out there yall

[sharkjumper]

Any of you pals work as a project manager?
Looks interesting and seems like there are a variety of openings.
Would love to hear thoughts on it. Thanks.

[burm]

Any of you pals work as a project manager?
Looks interesting and seems like there are a variety of openings.
Would love to hear thoughts on it. Thanks.

My thoughts of it in the IT context

Pros:
You don’t need specific hard skills, although something like a Scrum Master, ITIL, Prince2 certificate can help in some places.

Cons:
You create nothing and every problem is your problem.

Satisfaction is dependent on can you get it from helping other people work more efficiently, or, if you hate people, by making sure the project meets it’s goals regardless of how it makes the workers feel.
 

[sharkjumper]

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Any of you pals work as a project manager?
Looks interesting and seems like there are a variety of openings.
Would love to hear thoughts on it. Thanks.

[close]

My thoughts of it in the IT context

Pros:
You don’t need specific hard skills, although something like a Scrum Master, ITIL, Prince2 certificate can help in some places.

Cons:
You create nothing and every problem is your problem.

Satisfaction is dependent on can you get it from helping other people work more efficiently, or, if you hate people, by making sure the project meets it’s goals regardless of how it makes the workers feel.
 

This is helpful insight. Thank you.

[sometimeperhaps]

Looking for some advice from my fellow PALS.

I work as an art director in the healthcare space, and I've been at my current company for five months now. I got this job after getting laid off from my previous job. Funnily enough the reason I got laid off from my previous job is because our biggest client moved to my current employer.

My current job requires about 3.5 hours of commuting a day, 10 times a month (2-3 days per week). The commute is pretty easy, but obviously long. It is kinda flexible where I can leave a bit early and make it home by 5:30 most days. I have a 15 month old so that's nice. My co-workers are all pretty good, and the job is fairly easy most of the time, which is nice but also perhaps not the best for career growth.

I was recently contacted by a company in the city I live, who I had applied and interviewed with a couple times over the last two years but things never worked out - first time they low balled me, second time they said I wasn't experienced enough. I was doing some freelance for them over the last year, and have a few good friends from past job that work there so my name was getting around, and they were happy with the services I offered and my abilities. Basically COO reached out to say "lets get to know each other, and if you're this well regarded why aren't you working here?". We chatted what I want career wise, salary, etc.

In their latest message, they basically said I can get everything I mentioned in our call - salary, role, growth - but it's only available this time. If I pass on it but apply in the future, the same offer isn't on the table.

The pro's are I'd get a $10,000 (or more) salary increase, plus the few thousand I'd save per year not having to commute along with my time. I'd probably be in a better spot for career growth, and I'd be working with some good friends again. Also being close to home will be helpful with family stuff once my kid is going to daycare and school, as my wife will have to take that 3.5 hour commute I mentioned earlier some days once she's back at work. We don't have any family where we live so we can't really rely on anyone to help with kid things should they need to be picked up early, appointments, etc. Basically it could turn into a stressful logistical issue in the future. There's not really any obvious cons I'm aware of, although they did lay off a friend of mine weeks before Christmas a couple years ago, which left a bad taste in his mouth. Slightly different scenario than what I'd be walking into but valid still. I do wanna reach out to a couple friends their to get their thoughts.

I have a hard time leaving jobs, and tend to work at places for a long time assuming things aren't terrible. Despite not working at my current job a long time, I'd feel as though I'm "letting people down" by leaving. But at the same time this is a large company, who of course would have no problem cutting me should they need to. Basically how to I convince myself to make the right decision, based on what I laid out. I think the positives are in favour of accepting this new offer, but I find it's always a touch choice to make. The area I work in is somewhat niche, and I don't want to burn any bridges. But at the same time, being closer to home with more pay and less commuting would make family life presumably easier in some regards.

[slaab900turbo]

Looking for some advice from my fellow PALS.

I work as an art director in the healthcare space, and I've been at my current company for five months now. I got this job after getting laid off from my previous job. Funnily enough the reason I got laid off from my previous job is because our biggest client moved to my current employer.

My current job requires about 3.5 hours of commuting a day, 10 times a month (2-3 days per week). The commute is pretty easy, but obviously long. It is kinda flexible where I can leave a bit early and make it home by 5:30 most days. I have a 15 month old so that's nice. My co-workers are all pretty good, and the job is fairly easy most of the time, which is nice but also perhaps not the best for career growth.

I was recently contacted by a company in the city I live, who I had applied and interviewed with a couple times over the last two years but things never worked out - first time they low balled me, second time they said I wasn't experienced enough. I was doing some freelance for them over the last year, and have a few good friends from past job that work there so my name was getting around, and they were happy with the services I offered and my abilities. Basically COO reached out to say "lets get to know each other, and if you're this well regarded why aren't you working here?". We chatted what I want career wise, salary, etc.

In their latest message, they basically said I can get everything I mentioned in our call - salary, role, growth - but it's only available this time. If I pass on it but apply in the future, the same offer isn't on the table.

The pro's are I'd get a $10,000 (or more) salary increase, plus the few thousand I'd save per year not having to commute along with my time. I'd probably be in a better spot for career growth, and I'd be working with some good friends again. Also being close to home will be helpful with family stuff once my kid is going to daycare and school, as my wife will have to take that 3.5 hour commute I mentioned earlier some days once she's back at work. We don't have any family where we live so we can't really rely on anyone to help with kid things should they need to be picked up early, appointments, etc. Basically it could turn into a stressful logistical issue in the future. There's not really any obvious cons I'm aware of, although they did lay off a friend of mine weeks before Christmas a couple years ago, which left a bad taste in his mouth. Slightly different scenario than what I'd be walking into but valid still. I do wanna reach out to a couple friends their to get their thoughts.

I have a hard time leaving jobs, and tend to work at places for a long time assuming things aren't terrible. Despite not working at my current job a long time, I'd feel as though I'm "letting people down" by leaving. But at the same time this is a large company, who of course would have no problem cutting me should they need to. Basically how to I convince myself to make the right decision, based on what I laid out. I think the positives are in favour of accepting this new offer, but I find it's always a touch choice to make. The area I work in is somewhat niche, and I don't want to burn any bridges. But at the same time, being closer to home with more pay and less commuting would make family life presumably easier in some regards.

Take the offer. The time you will get back from your shortened commute trumps the pay increase. Before Covid I had to commute to a job 5 days a week that there was no reason I could not do the same job from home. My company went to a “virtual first” model during the pandemic and I have been 100% remote for 4 years and it has been life changing. Granted my situation is not the same as yours, but getting back the time I was spending commuting has really been positive. Good luck!✌️

[fakie nollie]

I work in marketing at a cushy large company now but my boss and coworkers leave a lot to be desired. Lots of politics and I’ve had multiple people come to me I tears because they’re mistreated by either my manager or other superiors. I do have decent pay though and my boss does advocate for me.

The first day I was hired, the manager I interviewed with (and really liked) was fired. After being here for a year, I’ve come to the conclusion she was pushed out due to politics, more or less. I have a meeting with her next week and I think it may bring up a job opportunity. If this happens, I’m not sure what I’ll do, as it’s a startup tech company. I’ve worked at 5 different companies in the last 6 years and really want stability, but I’ve also tripled my salary in that time by making these moves for different titles.

On the other side of this, I have a side gig idea that I’ve been sitting on for months now that I need to launch. I’m hoping that, whatever I decide to do, that gets to a place in the next couple of years to where I no longer have to work for anyone but myself.

[sharkjumper]

Looking for some advice from my fellow PALS.

I work as an art director in the healthcare space, and I've been at my current company for five months now. I got this job after getting laid off from my previous job. Funnily enough the reason I got laid off from my previous job is because our biggest client moved to my current employer.

My current job requires about 3.5 hours of commuting a day, 10 times a month (2-3 days per week). The commute is pretty easy, but obviously long. It is kinda flexible where I can leave a bit early and make it home by 5:30 most days. I have a 15 month old so that's nice. My co-workers are all pretty good, and the job is fairly easy most of the time, which is nice but also perhaps not the best for career growth.

I was recently contacted by a company in the city I live, who I had applied and interviewed with a couple times over the last two years but things never worked out - first time they low balled me, second time they said I wasn't experienced enough. I was doing some freelance for them over the last year, and have a few good friends from past job that work there so my name was getting around, and they were happy with the services I offered and my abilities. Basically COO reached out to say "lets get to know each other, and if you're this well regarded why aren't you working here?". We chatted what I want career wise, salary, etc.

In their latest message, they basically said I can get everything I mentioned in our call - salary, role, growth - but it's only available this time. If I pass on it but apply in the future, the same offer isn't on the table.

The pro's are I'd get a $10,000 (or more) salary increase, plus the few thousand I'd save per year not having to commute along with my time. I'd probably be in a better spot for career growth, and I'd be working with some good friends again. Also being close to home will be helpful with family stuff once my kid is going to daycare and school, as my wife will have to take that 3.5 hour commute I mentioned earlier some days once she's back at work. We don't have any family where we live so we can't really rely on anyone to help with kid things should they need to be picked up early, appointments, etc. Basically it could turn into a stressful logistical issue in the future. There's not really any obvious cons I'm aware of, although they did lay off a friend of mine weeks before Christmas a couple years ago, which left a bad taste in his mouth. Slightly different scenario than what I'd be walking into but valid still. I do wanna reach out to a couple friends their to get their thoughts.

I have a hard time leaving jobs, and tend to work at places for a long time assuming things aren't terrible. Despite not working at my current job a long time, I'd feel as though I'm "letting people down" by leaving. But at the same time this is a large company, who of course would have no problem cutting me should they need to. Basically how to I convince myself to make the right decision, based on what I laid out. I think the positives are in favour of accepting this new offer, but I find it's always a touch choice to make. The area I work in is somewhat niche, and I don't want to burn any bridges. But at the same time, being closer to home with more pay and less commuting would make family life presumably easier in some regards.

Sounds like lots of positives for this new job. Remember that a big company really doesn’t give a shit about you. So you’re not letting the company down. The coworkers that you like will understand the reasons for changing- short commute, raise, etc. And leaving your current job opens a new opportunity for someone else.

[burm]

I work in marketing at a cushy large company now but my boss and coworkers leave a lot to be desired. Lots of politics and I’ve had multiple people come to me I tears because they’re mistreated by either my manager or other superiors. I do have decent pay though and my boss does advocate for me.

The first day I was hired, the manager I interviewed with (and really liked) was fired. After being here for a year, I’ve come to the conclusion she was pushed out due to politics, more or less. I have a meeting with her next week and I think it may bring up a job opportunity. If this happens, I’m not sure what I’ll do, as it’s a startup tech company. I’ve worked at 5 different companies in the last 6 years and really want stability, but I’ve also tripled my salary in that time by making these moves for different titles.

On the other side of this, I have a side gig idea that I’ve been sitting on for months now that I need to launch. I’m hoping that, whatever I decide to do, that gets to a place in the next couple of years to where I no longer have to work for anyone but myself.

I guess you need to weigh your priorities. You can take cushy money at a cushy job, or take less money for more challenge and possibly feel more fulfilled. With startups though there is not guarantee that the job will be what you want, but in general you get more say over what you do and there is more to do than people to do it so you get to put your hands on more things. And of course the possibility of the startup hitting it off and you cashing in your equity, but that's so rare that you shouldn't consider it as a part of your monetary incentives.

I have taken less pay the previous 4 times I've changed jobs just to find something more meaningful and now I finally have "autonomy, mastery and purpose" (Daniel Pink), and it feels so good to be able to really invest my time and effort into the work in a major way. But that being said I probably wouldn't be doing it if I didn't think there is chance it's going to amount to something monetary in a 1-2 year span, and I don't hope to invest this much into work on a long term.

The main thing I would say is that if you take a position in a startup that is actually doing something and expects that from you as well, it might be pretty difficult to find the resources to work on your own thing. The cushy job might give you more mental and monetary freedom to make something else happen.

[Coastal Fever]

I’m turning to the Slap brain trust on this one…

I work for a company doing installs.  It’s currently me, another guy, and a new guy.  The other guy’s body is fucked and his install days are numbered.  He thinks he’ll be transitioning to an office role.. which he might.. but I suspect the company doesn’t want him to.. for a variety of superficial and non-superficial reasons.

Today, my boss asked if I had any interest in it.  I said I’m all for new opportunities, learning new skills, and career advancement.  He then implied that it wouldn’t necessarily be advancing, but maybe more of a lateral move.

I love working on the road.  It keeps me active, I’m always doing different stuff and seeing different places.  The freedom I have is ludicrous, to the point where I’m basically running a side hustle during work hours.

I absolutely do not want an office job unless it comes with a hefty raise… BUT, I feel like turning it down would be idiotic of me, as I could learn a lot of things that make me more employable.  The installing I do is very niche, and my company is pretty much the only gig in town.

Does it ever make sense to take a shittier job that pays the same as part of a long game?  I’m ADHD as hell and not sure I could handle the confines of an office, and office politics, if no financial benefit is guaranteed.  Thoughts?


TLDR: Take an office gig that pays the same even though I prefer field work?  In hopes that it leads to more lucrative roles down the road?

[GardenSkater77]

You don’t take a new job you don’t want for the same pay. You would need at least a 10% increase to even care and you wouldn’t last in an office after being on the road. I fail to see an upside.

[LUGR]

Tell them to laterally shove it where the sun don’t shine.

[50mm]

I worked in an office for a decade, pretty much my entire 20's. Took ~20% pay cut at the end of 2020 to work outdoors in my pretty much dream job. We actually were doing the Slap Zoom meetups at that time and all you homies getting on there were supportive and making me feel good which I still remember. I get to be outdoors all day, talk to a lot of interesting people, teach kids about nature, and get to work with my hands, and recently I've been one half of our two man in-house video production team we are getting going and have gotten a chance to travel around socal for a day shooting videos, getting paid to hangout on the beach in HB. I love teaching people, I always wanted to learn about tools and now have a small but solid collection of hand/power tools and can work on a lot of stuff at home or for fun, and I have been doing video editing for fun half my life. I originally wanted to do video production when I was younger but never wanted to edit a tv show or something, so it's been a dream job within a dream job. On top of that I've had a lot of really exciting moments like search and rescues.

I would be making significantly more at my office job if I was still there but I hated it for all that time and would never ever go back. If I ever transition to an office role in my current job I would still be in an outdoor setting so that is a cool option in the future. I have a great team of people I work with and the two other guys that share the same role as me are really good people and the only real friends I've had outside a job since I was like 18. It really feels like me and some buddies all got a job together, no ego, no slacking, no competing.

All that is to say money isn't everything if you hate your job. I'm officially middle aged in about a week and it took me almost as long to figure this shit out even though I knew it in the back of my head all these years. Work takes up the majority of our time and my life satisfaction has improved so much from changing jobs that no amount of money could really make a difference unless it was so little I couldn't survive.

[ScooterKid]

After mom drops me off at the skate park I stand in front of the best ledge and look into the sky with all my best friends.  Why are all these older guys on skateboards so mad at us?  Scooter is future.

[Coastal Fever]

Appreciate the feedback guys.  I emailed him and (very professionally) stated that moving into the office would strip away everything I like about working there, and it would take either my body giving out or an unrealistic salary increase for me to do so.  He was super cool and understood, and said it could always be an option in the future.

[LUGR]

I worked in an office for a decade, pretty much my entire 20's. Took ~20% pay cut at the end of 2020 to work outdoors in my pretty much dream job. We actually were doing the Slap Zoom meetups at that time and all you homies getting on there were supportive and making me feel good which I still remember. I get to be outdoors all day, talk to a lot of interesting people, teach kids about nature, and get to work with my hands, and recently I've been one half of our two man in-house video production team we are getting going and have gotten a chance to travel around socal for a day shooting videos, getting paid to hangout on the beach in HB. I love teaching people, I always wanted to learn about tools and now have a small but solid collection of hand/power tools and can work on a lot of stuff at home or for fun, and I have been doing video editing for fun half my life. I originally wanted to do video production when I was younger but never wanted to edit a tv show or something, so it's been a dream job within a dream job. On top of that I've had a lot of really exciting moments like search and rescues.

I would be making significantly more at my office job if I was still there but I hated it for all that time and would never ever go back. If I ever transition to an office role in my current job I would still be in an outdoor setting so that is a cool option in the future. I have a great team of people I work with and the two other guys that share the same role as me are really good people and the only real friends I've had outside a job since I was like 18. It really feels like me and some buddies all got a job together, no ego, no slacking, no competing.

All that is to say money isn't everything if you hate your job. I'm officially middle aged in about a week and it took me almost as long to figure this shit out even though I knew it in the back of my head all these years. Work takes up the majority of our time and my life satisfaction has improved so much from changing jobs that no amount of money could really make a difference unless it was so little I couldn't survive.

I think I vaguely remember that. Didn’t you take a job with the park service or something similar? Awesome to hear you are still out there enjoying it.

[Coastal Fever]

Damn, hate to bump this with more of my bs, but tmrw’s gonna be pretty awkward.. 

My “apprentice” who thinks he’s too good for our job, has been the most useless dogfucker lately.  I finally told my boss what’s up, who then got the big boss to give him a talking to at the end of the day.

So now I gotta work alone with this dumb kid tmrw, and either play it off cool, or explain why I threw him under the bus if he questions me.

[TastyBurrito]

Damn, hate to bump this with more of my bs, but tmrw’s gonna be pretty awkward.. 

My “apprentice” who thinks he’s too good for our job, has been the most useless dogfucker lately.  I finally told my boss what’s up, who then got the big boss to give him a talking to at the end of the day.

So now I gotta work alone with this dumb kid tmrw, and either play it off cool, or explain why I threw him under the bus if he questions me.

(Granted I didn't read any of your previous posts)

First off, you didn't throw him under the bus. He's an adult and in a workplace. He should know he needs to prove his worth and earn his keep.

If he asks, sit him down and talk to him like an adult. Give constructive feedback and point out where he's been lacking. From tasks to attitude. At that point, they'll show their true colors -- if they ship up and fly straight or just be a bigger pain to be with.

With that showing, you can relay feedback to your boss on whether they should keep or can the dude.

[GardenSkater77]

Damn, hate to bump this with more of my bs, but tmrw’s gonna be pretty awkward.. 

My “apprentice” who thinks he’s too good for our job, has been the most useless dogfucker lately.  I finally told my boss what’s up, who then got the big boss to give him a talking to at the end of the day.

So now I gotta work alone with this dumb kid tmrw, and either play it off cool, or explain why I threw him under the bus if he questions me.

I wouldn’t say shit to this guy. And you didn’t throw him under the bus. You can’t cover for a person who is not putting in the work. Throwing someone under the bus is about deflecting blame and putting it on a person who only deserves a portion. If he asks if you said something just tell him that you didn’t need to because his lack of effort is apparent to everyone.

I’m having a shitty week myself. Long story short, we are having a finger pointing fest. We are short 8,000 LBS of critical raw material and it’s nobody’s fault. There is something admirable about taking the blame even if you feel you have done nothing wrong. A bad work culture doesn’t allow for this if the individual feels they will be disproportionately punished.

[ElSkater]

Any welders out there? I started off as a welder 10 years ago, now a Welding Engineer. Get to spend big bucks on new machines, play with welding robots, a bunch of other things, but the best part is I get to skate whenever the weather is nice out for an hour or so during "lunch". 

[Mr. Pickles]

I work some geniuses that have proclaimed that birds aren’t real and that dinosaurs never existed.

[EdLawndale]

I feel like it's time to bump this thread.

I am helping a cpl ppl in my life try to find jobs after recent layoffs.

And it is fucking BRUTAL out there. Unlike anything I have ever seen before.

Hundreds of candidates applying for even shite jobs hours after they are posted, ghost jobs that never get filled, ATS programs filtering out good candidates before a human being ever sees them...

Can only speak for America...but I think finding a job is going to get exponentially worse in 2026 due to a multitude of factors.

[companguero]

I’m just gonna keep doing DoorDash til I can’t no mo’.
If my car dies I’ll figure out how to get another one.
If DoorDash boots me I’ll crawl over to UberEats.
If UE won’t have me I’ll grovel to Grubhub.

Did anyone see that movie Good Fortune?
Seriously, don’t text or drive distracted, that really hit home… but also, gig work isn’t miserable if you’re cut out for it.

I drove a cab in LA from 05-07, left the city then returned and around ‘13 I tried working For “sidecar” briefly.
I love all manner of delivery driving but I cannot tolerate transporting people anymore, not with a mutual rating system looming over my head.
Anyway… I bet Waymo will wipe out that work the way uber/lyft decimated taxis.

[TheLurper]

I feel like it's time to bump this thread.

I am helping a cpl ppl in my life try to find jobs after recent layoffs.

And it is fucking BRUTAL out there. Unlike anything I have ever seen before.

Hundreds of candidates applying for even shite jobs hours after they are posted, ghost jobs that never get filled, ATS programs filtering out good candidates before a human being ever sees them...

Can only speak for America...but I think finding a job is going to get exponentially worse in 2026 due to a multitude of factors.

Between Trump tarrifs and AI, this has been a rough year. My company instantly froze hiring as soon as Trump said, "tariffs" and followed up with hammering employees while dreaming about AI replacing everyone.

Ghost job postings is certainly a thing. I know for a fact a company is spending money on ads for a role where hiring is frozen.

Being a millennial is awesome. We will get to experience yet another "once in a life time" disruption as we finally gained our footing in the job market.

[MuggsyU]

I work as a 7th grade math and history teacher. I teach at a school where every grade has two classes. One is math and science and the other is reading/writing and history. The last few years I was the fifth grade math and science teacher but I asked to move up to 7th grade. My partner teacher used to teach 4th grade math and science and I used to teach high school social studies, so we decided to switch history and science. I like science but I prefer to teach math and history. My classroom is about 75/80 percent math. I’m really digging teaching 7th grade thus far, as 5th grade math got a little boring to teach for me (not the maths fault as I like decimals and teaching 5th grade geometry), however I needed a challenge. I taught this class when they were in fifth grade and they were my toughest class and I’m feeling it this year, but it’s all good. However, all the behind the scenes work stuff is horrible this year and is ruining the school year.

I love teaching but my favorite job I ever had was doing bike delivery in Brooklyn for close to a decade. It was hard and demanding, but I loved the freedom it afforded me. However, I don’t miss hitting black ice, huge pot holes that had me flipping over my handlebars, and getting hit by over a dozen cars. Oh and delivering in the rain and snow on bike sucks too.

[gathernogloss]

street performing coast to coast

[propaganda]

I work valet it’s a pretty sweet gig. Would be cooler if I was a little younger. I don’t really make that much money. I like walking away with cash tho plus it’s opportunities for side hustles and networking. Also good for working on customer service/social skills.

The car part I don’t really care about. I guess it’s kinda cool. I like rental cars the most, don’t really have to think about it as much.

Don’t know how to break in, maybe around holiday season? I only got in cause this girl owed my sister a favor. Then I quit and got hired by the same company at a different location. They been treating me like a star. No cocky shit I kind of work like a star.

Lately been thinking like my next steps. It’s one position one step up that’s a guess a path to management but I really don’t wanna do it. I just like to work I don’t like tell people what to do. All the top corporate/managemnt jobs are ran by Ethiopians, no hate just is what it is. I know I could do that work as well but I don’t know if I have the personality for that.

Ohh also it’s cold af right now, outside all day in the cold running to pick up cars been killing my skating. I have no energy. I’m convincving myself it will make me stronger in spring

I think it might be an aka conference this weekend. I just seen one of the beautiful women I ever seen yesterday. I been liking being a valet, been a big part of my personality this year

[propaganda]

just picked up a shift at my old hotel, old manager been hounding me all week cause his pm shift guy/best buddy been calling out every day.

Finally gave in today [he text me 10PM last night] cause im really just didnt want a sit in the house, wanna make some more money, maybe shot my shot a baddie, and keep him calling me for shifts. But damn I don’t feel like it now plus I work tomorrow morning.

Yesterday my boss, 3rd in command stared the day yelling at us cause some other people got a 82/100 from some fucking secret shopper bullshit that they do like everyday and I guess he was getting chewed out from his bosses. I don’t really know what’s true but I hear our top boss has some bonuses if we get a lot of 100s.

They used to pay ppl $100 but ppl ain’t been getting paid and they wonder why no one cares. The guy I usually work with is pretty sure he got shopped twice but the scores never came out. Suspicious. I personally don’t care about the ssecret santa bs even for $100, it be too many real customers, too busy, to unpredictable to be trying to go through some 20 point spill with every customer. Fuck that

I think that’s another reason I took the shift just tired of the bs, might try to get back to my old spot. I miss the city, the chaos, and autonomy. Valeting in Md, on this side atleast is like playing with the pups. Idk man it’s so close to where I been staying.