Simple Shit You Never Learned

[Gomez]

the key to a backside noseslide (that is the forward facing one) is ollie far out to the ledge/rail that way your momentum will stay forward. if you try and jam your nose in at the soonest possible moment you always stick.

dont put your feet like you normally ollie put your front foot like right on the bolts or at least just over the bottom 2.

i started off doing slappy noseslides on red curbs when i first stated skating, i learned to slide them pretty far. this helped me learn how to balance the trick well, and when i started adding the ollie to it, it was really similar in approach and everything else. i actually learned a lot of tricks on red curbs when i started out skating, like fs 5050s, fs 5-os, front tails, front noseslides, nollie noseslides, switch tailslides, some others that i can't think of right now.

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I can't throw down.  As in I can't run and throw the board down and jump on it.  I just never ever learned.  I always put my board down...then kick it...then run and jump on it.  I'm just not overly coordinated when I'm not skateboarding.  It's essentially the only thing I'm at least sorta good at.

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damn, that's like the easiest way to get speed for anything. you could probably learn the way i did, when i started trying it, essentially i just ran and did a low caveman onto my board and just allowed it to progress on its own into just a normal throw down.

i mentioned that i can't do any bs grinds other than crooks or if i get onto them straight on, but i didn't say that can't bs ollie. like ollie backside. if i approach a curb bs and i'm cruising, i have to 180 up it or ollie and make a super sharp turn.

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come on man that shit is easy. people like you are the worst to skate with you are cruising down some primo hill at top speed you cant even ollie up the fucking curb? jesus. my friend chad is like all you guys he can do all these sick tricks like bs flips, bigspin flips, nollie ggrinds, all this shit, but he cant even do basic shit like ollie up a curb backside. its not fucking hard just try it for more than 2 seconds.

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haha i know i hate that i can't do it. it didn't come easy to me when i started and i never bothered to learn it. it's too late for me now.
 it's funny that you mention bombing a hill and not being able to ollie up a curb backside because about a year ago i was bombing a hill on the way to a skate spot with my camera bag around my neck when i thought i'd go for an ollie up the curb backside. don't know what i was thinking, but it was a terrible decision. i ollied 90 and fell forward onto my cameras and broke one of them. i also fucked up my arm pretty badly. such a disgracing moment.

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oh fuck i am always super scared about doing that stuff i have came hella close to breaking stuff lots of times. to be honest i used to have the hardest time with that as well i could never ollie up curbs backside. i just got really good at bs 5050s, i learned them when i was on mushrooms i just needed that expansion of mind to get onto the rail that way. i learned them on a 1 stair rail like we put a flat bar down a curb so it forced you to grind the entire thing and helps you slide and get your weight on properly. i actually got the best at bs 5050 coming straight onto a ledge. that is the easiest way to learn it, i built a box where you could ollie onto the ledge straight on. then it was jsut a progression from there.

side story once on the way to school or work or something i had my lunch in my bag and i got stuck on an ollie my wheel bit into the crack right when i landed just ollieing a sketchy sidewalk and i slammed onto my back and spagghetti and orange juice spilled out everywhere i jst said fuck it left my backpack with all the fucked up lunch in it and went on my way,.

yeah for the longest i've been able to do bs 5050s, bs 5-os, and bs nosegrinds that way, and i can sometimes do bs nosegrinds mid ledge if i get into crook first and then tweak it back, but i've never been able to progress into doing them mid ledge. in games of skate on ledges i've been able to pull off the 5050 and 5-0 though.

[rawbertson.]

yeah i learned them slappy too actually, i remember i wanted to do them the ollie way but i kept sticking and i wasnt too stoked. i was trying to ollie in on a curb. my friend would fly as fast as he could and slappy noseslide for like 4 feet so i said fuck it ill learn it like that and then i stepped to the real ledge and learned it pretty easy after that.

for me its bs tailslide is the one i can never get although i wouldnt call that "simple" id say its kind of a intermediate level trick, same with bs lipslides. i have done bs lipslides on some small things same with bs tail but i need to get the long slide down like justin strubing.

i wish i cuold do wallrides and rock to fakies better. i wish i could do fs wallride or switch wallride. fuck man i dont think there is a single person on here who could do switch wall ride there are probably less than 10 people on the planet who can do them on the level of jake johnson.

[Gomez]

yeah i learned them slappy too actually, i remember i wanted to do them the ollie way but i kept sticking and i wasnt too stoked. i was trying to ollie in on a curb. my friend would fly as fast as he could and slappy noseslide for like 4 feet so i said fuck it ill learn it like that and then i stepped to the real ledge and learned it pretty easy after that.

same with me. when i first started ollieing into noseslides on like legit curbs, i would pop too hard and jam it in and just come out to fakie without sliding. then i learned that it really is just like a slappy; you barely ollie and then pull yourself up into the noseslide. if you pop it high and then slam it down you'll pretty much always stick. for some reason this doesn't really apply to tailslides (to fakie anyway, if you try to go back to regular on a high popped tailslide, you'll just stick and come back out without sliding).

[clamy]

Since we're getting some good tips on back noseslides and front tails, who can help me with backtails? I dedicated a whole session to learning those and had them for awhile, now they're completely gone. I try ollie way too high I think, and just kick it out like a bitch and it half looks like i'm trying kickflip backtails.

[jeremyrandall]

Since we're getting some good tips on back noseslides and front tails, who can help me with backtails? I dedicated a whole session to learning those and had them for awhile, now they're completely gone. I try ollie way too high I think, and just kick it out like a bitch and it half looks like i'm trying kickflip backtails.

I learned just a couple years ago.  What really helped me was NOT coming on an angle at all.  Skate parallel to the ledge.  That way when you get your tail on you won't jam it in and stick.  And obviously commitment is the other big thing.  It's a blind trick...so it's all by feeling.  You just gotta stick your tail in there and trust your gonna get on good.  Lean right back on it.

[rawbertson.]

i can do them on a mini ramp not bad i found thetrick was to ollie back farther onto the deck than you initially think but maybe thats just me

[just_peysa]

sw big spin

but i got sw big flip

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sw big spin

Uh yeah, real simple.

For some reason I find regular back 180°s difficult. Tips appreciated.

[WWD4D?]

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sw big spin

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Uh yeah, real simple.

For some reason I find regular back 180°s difficult. Tips appreciated.

Just cheat and do an ollie to a quick back revert. They're easier to do that way and a lot of people do em like that, including I.

[ThatOneGuy]

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sw big spin

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Uh yeah, real simple.

For some reason I find regular back 180°s difficult. Tips appreciated.

I had force myself to learn those, i prefer most tricks frontside. I found that putting both my feet at a 45 degree angle with my back foot in the concave helped keep the board under me. Then just focus on swinging your right arm (left if your goofy) and your shoulders to help complete the 180. There super fun if you can pop em high.

[TheFreshSC]

switch flips/nollie flips
switch heels/nollie heels
varial heels
hardlips
any halfcab to stall on transition
any flip trick on transition
the list could really go on for pages

[oyolar]

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sw big spin

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Uh yeah, real simple.

For some reason I find regular back 180°s difficult. Tips appreciated.

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I had force myself to learn those, i prefer most tricks frontside. I found that putting both my feet at a 45 degree angle with my back foot in the concave helped keep the board under me. Then just focus on swinging your right arm (left if your goofy) and your shoulders to help complete the 180. There super fun if you can pop em high.

And don't worry about going fast or popping high at first. In fact, you may want to land back wheels first by a split second. It just takes time. It took me so long to get back 180s but now they're one of my favorite tricks to do. I feel more comfortable with them than my front 180s most of the time and I'm starting to get them down well enough to do them over distances. They look/feel good once you learn to pop them quickly after a set up ollie too.

Edit: Oh yeah-I cannot do any flip tricks, along with a shit ton of other things.

[zipzinger666]

i wish i could do fs wallride or switch wallride. fuck man i dont think there is a single person on here who could do switch wall ride there are probably less than 10 people on the planet who can do them on the level of jake johnson.

I was trying these at an indoor park last night on a little steep ramp cutout. its absolutely fucked. I could never imagine doing it on an actual wall. also, dont know what the deal is, but Ive never been able to get anywhere close to back wallrides but Ive done a decent amount of frontside ones, it always seemed easier to bash up the wall.

Edit: Oh yeah-I cannot do any flip tricks, along with a shit ton of other things.

with the exception of shit kickflips and maybe nollie/switch heels, I will never be able to land any flip tricks ever...

[eastern]

i am so proud of my switch heels and so ashamed of my switch flips..its a bummer...

[drunk]

i read somewhere that mr. mariano said a mini ramp to him, is just a bank to ledge

is this a reasonable approach?

[jeremyrandall]

^That's pretty crazy.  According to Colin McKay, Guy was the first person EVER to switch crook in a vert ramp back to switch.  I guess in his head he was just skating a HUUUUGE bank to ledge.

[EricLogan]

i read somewhere that mr. mariano said a mini ramp to him, is just a bank to ledge

is this a reasonable approach?

hah! when i was a kid, I would ollie from a foot below the coping to every stall/grind trick

it was so fucking kooky and weird, i just had serious lulls imagining an adult mariano utilizing this technique on a 4ft miniramp

[Stoeipoes]

Also I don't think I'll ever do a back feeble in my life. Even though I'm not dying to learn them, it's just everyone else says they're easy.

Same here, but i never ever skate rails.
I can't do a lot of grinds.

no crookeds, smiths, bs tails, feebles

[Gomez]

Anyone have any tips for frontside tailslides?

pretty lengthy, here's what i came up with.
i'd say put your back foot on the edge of the tail a little behind you, and your front foot close to your back bolts with your toes hanging off the edge slightly. when you pop, go 90 and try not to get very higher than the ledge but keep your weight distributed to your back foot. the balance is the hard part, because if you lean too much backwards, you'll slip out, and if you lean too much forward, you'll get thrown or just stick and come back to regular without sliding, same as if you pop it too high. you've got to figure out your balance for yourself, and a key factor is how well the ledge slides too, because you can get away with leaning a little too far back if the ledge isn't waxed all that much, and if it's waxed to hell, then you can lean a little too forward with no issues. i typically come parallel to the ledge if i'm going to fakie, and at a slight angle if i'm going to regular, but on ledges sloped down/hubbas, i always come at an angle, and i typically come out to fakie because it's easier. coming out to regular is as simple as just dropping out of it and leaning forward. coming out to fakie takes a little more effort to make sure that you don't roll back into the ledge. you should lean a little back and shift your back foot foward and your front foot backwards (more emphasis on the back foot though). if you lean too much forward coming out to fakie, you'll probably roll back into the ledge. that's all i can think of on front tails, don't know if it'll help you any.

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i read somewhere that mr. mariano said a mini ramp to him, is just a bank to ledge

is this a reasonable approach?

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hah! when i was a kid, I would ollie from a foot below the coping to every stall/grind trick

it was so fucking kooky and weird, i just had serious lulls imagining an adult mariano utilizing this technique on a 4ft miniramp

i just remember him explaining this as his approach, i could be wrong

[LloydChristmas]

it's not that i can't do them regs, but switch shuvs are way easier.  if i'm doing them regs i'm praying the board doesn't start to rotate like a varial flip.  the same goes for switch tre's being easier than regs which has always bothered me.  it was comforting to find out mariano has (or had) a the same thing going on with tre flips.

edit: oh, and anything like a kickflip into a slide/grind i'd sooner land switch than regs.  i don't know why some tricks are like that, it's not like i skate switch more, not even close.

[rawbertson.]

bs 180 the trick is learn how to powersldie 180 that way really well then its a matter of just learning how to ollie with it the way you turn your shoulders shoudl be identical... i used to try and do my bs 180s all gay like ollie late 180 like what commericial dallas is talking about... dont do those... they dont teach you shit and they look horrible, and is a really easy way for you to roll your ankle.

do like a bs powerslide 180 and then just start learning to ollie with it... you will realize you actually need to slow down your spin the higher you ollie... i started out doing 270s and shit and realized soon after i could do bs 360s really easy as they are the exact same as a 360 powerslide... the way you turn your shoulders, everything, its the exact same; in fact id say the ollie version is easier once you figure it out.

same thing for bs bigspins. start out by doing them the powerslide way like real low on the ground, then start building your shoveit up so try and do the full 360 shove and land backwards but maintain that same bs powerslide-style arms/shoulders. i swear thats the reason half my freinds cant do bs bigspins its because they try too hard to pop the shoveit and the thing is they are just not letting the trick coast, not relaxing their bodies in the air... not letting the trick go full 360, they always get caught 270.

360 tricks man... they are the shit... you jsut gotta wind up and let your body go with it. i had the biggest difficulty with these for the longest time and i didnt even realize i had the power in my grasp the entire time.

as for the trick that i suck at ultimately its 360 flip and inward heel i dont think i will ever have those over stuff / down gaps. they just seem so weird.

[Ovaltine Suprise Party]

nosemanuals of any kind, crooked grinds, frontside smiths

[Tarquin]

nosemanuals of any kind

Same. I did a 180 switch manual by accident when I was 15, it remains the best manual trick i've ever done haha.

[Crazy Ralph]

nollie heels...fucking cannot pop it for my life

[Eon]

flip tricks in general. im fine without them im still having the time of my life doing this shit.

[DevinSB]

Since we're getting some good tips on back noseslides and front tails, who can help me with backtails? I dedicated a whole session to learning those and had them for awhile, now they're completely gone. I try ollie way too high I think, and just kick it out like a bitch and it half looks like i'm trying kickflip backtails.

i used to have so much trouble with them. The way i figured it out, it's all about having decent speed, and ollieing higher than the ledge. i just ollie a good bit over it, then turn, and just push down hard as fuck on the tail. also practice looking over your shoulder.

tricks i cant do: pop shove its, heelflips, and kickflips. or front 5-0's that trick is fucking gay. i didnt care to learn any of those but kickflips when i first started, just because pop shove its didnt seem cool, heelflips were scary, and front 5-0s were just hard, i suck at manuals too though. kickflips i just sorta stopped doing when i learned hardflips, and its bit me in the ass ever since. i broke my ankle last november and havent really skated since then, but i'm buying a new complete saturday, and a pair of blazer highs for my weak ass ankle, so my goal is to re-learn every trick.

[rawbertson.]

i think a shove it was the first trick i ever did. id say they are easier than ollies by a long shot.

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nosemanuals of any kind

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Same. I did a 180 switch manual by accident when I was 15, it remains the best manual trick i've ever done haha.

those are actually pretty hard. i have seen a lot of people do sw 180 to reg manual, but rare to see the opposite. the craziest fucking trick is 180 to fakie nosemanual. the switch version seems like it might be easier on that one just because youd be more used to the nosemanual. fakie nose manuals are fucking ridiculous probably one of the hardest tricks in skating next to switch wallrides.

[jeremyrandall]

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Since we're getting some good tips on back noseslides and front tails, who can help me with backtails? I dedicated a whole session to learning those and had them for awhile, now they're completely gone. I try ollie way too high I think, and just kick it out like a bitch and it half looks like i'm trying kickflip backtails.

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i used to have so much trouble with them. The way i figured it out, it's all about having decent speed, and ollieing higher than the ledge. i just ollie a good bit over it, then turn, and just push down hard as fuck on the tail. also practice looking over your shoulder.

tricks i cant do: pop shove its, heelflips, and kickflips. or front 5-0's that trick is fucking gay. i didnt care to learn any of those but kickflips when i first started, just because pop shove its didnt seem cool, heelflips were scary, and front 5-0s were just hard, i suck at manuals too though. kickflips i just sorta stopped doing when i learned hardflips, and its bit me in the ass ever since. i broke my ankle last november and havent really skated since then, but i'm buying a new complete saturday, and a pair of blazer highs for my weak ass ankle, so my goal is to re-learn every trick.

MAN...This is hands down the funnest trick in the world!!  Once you learn to lock into them you can just sit on them for days. 

[Sizzla]

I never learned heelflips or anything switch.