i forgot one up there to, at the second King Of The Road, when there was a meeting in Carbondale, i was sitting under this tent with scott kane and darrell,. lutzka comes walking up after a couple beers. i guess he knew darrell kinda, but never had met scott and he said to him "what, you can switch heelflip front nose a handrail, but you cant backsmith in vert? fucking pussy" and scott just said "i'll fight you RIGHT now" and lutzka broke out immidiatly. it was hillarious to. douche chill.