also, today I carved around on my buddy's setup with the new inverted af1 baseplates. he kept them stock with the harder top bushing, medium bottom. the grind clearance is insane. but I think having a short top bushing does make a truck bottom out quicker vs having a tall top bushing to keep carving deeper.
Shit so you're saying they turn a little less at the extreme end of things? Aces are great, but my three personal gripes with them are:
1) Lack of KP clearance
2) Inferior pinch relative to venture/thunder type trucks
3) They turn a little too much sometimes at the extreme end of the arc, eg sometimes if I land a backside flip heel heavy I just end up doing a U turn and roll back the way I came.
Sounds like these AF1s solve the first problem, and possibly the third to some degree too hmmm
I'm going to loosen mine next session but @logjammin could be right about the turn being cut a little short of normal.
I already mentioned this but I kept the smaller top bushing (9mm tall /94a) according to Ace propaganda but replaced the bottoms with AF1 regular Hard (14mm /94a)
As for the new engraving. I like it but it won't last me very long as I do enjoy nose and tail slides.
In terms of value for money they could end up saving you money down the line as they should last multiple pairs of hangers as the kingpin is so protected and Ace sells hangers separately. Maybe wishful thinking but that's my plan.
On the issue of bushing heights, yes having a lower top does change things a little in performance, as I am used to it with all the Indy low top bushings, as well as cutting / trimming down the tops to allow for more kingpin clearance on Indy, as well as other trucks like Thunder and Venture too.
Even cut down some Ace tops, then angle grinded down the kingpin to allow way more kingpin clearance, so overall the truck still worked fine, but for people who are very used to exactly how they might turn and feel, it shortens it a little, mainly depending on the shape and size of the top washer, but also depending on the height of the top bushing, eg some really worn down trucks have almost the most minimal top bushing I could make, often with a very flat feeling top washer, so the truck still turns a lot, with a tiny bit of washer touch on the hanger.
Overall the hanger is fine, the truck still turns, I don't have any real issues with skating them and they feel fine, but maybe if you are not so used to it, that feeling can be off putting, or maybe it might actually make them work better, eg the truck will not just keep turning and turning and wheelbite and stop.
Bushings in general for me, which has also worked well for other people I have set up boards for, I would often go for a slightly more firm bushing that I trim the top down, just so it is stable but can still turn if pushed, more so than a very soft and quite mushy feeling regular height set of bushings.
Might not be to everyone's liking, but in doing that, I can not only keep the same geometry, but also reduce the overall height and lower the kingpin nut, so increase clearance, on any regular kingpin version, or be able to fit a lower inverted kingpin too.
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