Ace trucks

[WhatIsCurb]

Anyone tried prototypes of these upcoming Ace bushings?

[Esmith5488]

alright, I'm back on af1's. currently on hard bushings but I'm still not as stable as I like. what's a good fit harder bushing for them? should I just get indy ones

[JimmyFive]

alright, I'm back on af1's. currently on hard bushings but I'm still not as stable as I like. what's a good fit harder bushing for them? should I just get indy ones

Using an Indy bottom bushing will throw off geometry. IIRC Ace bottom bushings (board side) are 14mm and the tops are 12.

[Mbrimson88]

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alright, I'm back on af1's. currently on hard bushings but I'm still not as stable as I like. what's a good fit harder bushing for them? should I just get indy ones

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Using an Indy bottom bushing will throw off geometry. IIRC Ace bottom bushings (board side) are 14mm and the tops are 12.

It would change - one mm lower for the Indy bushings than Ace bushings - but the black cylinder 94 Indy bushings are often a touch taller anyway, so they might actually work well enough and the fact that they might be lower means they will not turn as much either, which then equates to being more stable.  Just a thought, but that is why Ace turn so much, with a taller bottom bushing, so lowering it a little means that it would be a bit more stable, by reducing the amount of turn.

I have put Indy bushings in Ace trucks before, which still worked fine, from the set I tried, but it is up to you.  Indy 96 yellow cylinders are pretty stiff, but any of those - the black cylinders or yellow cylinders would firm up everything a bit more.

[Esmith5488]

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alright, I'm back on af1's. currently on hard bushings but I'm still not as stable as I like. what's a good fit harder bushing for them? should I just get indy ones

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Using an Indy bottom bushing will throw off geometry. IIRC Ace bottom bushings (board side) are 14mm and the tops are 12.

[close]

It would change - one mm lower for the Indy bushings than Ace bushings - but the black cylinder 94 Indy bushings are often a touch taller anyway, so they might actually work well enough and the fact that they might be lower means they will not turn as much either, which then equates to being more stable.  Just a thought, but that is why Ace turn so much, with a taller bottom bushing, so lowering it a little means that it would be a bit more stable, by reducing the amount of turn.

I have put Indy bushings in Ace trucks before, which still worked fine, from the set I tried, but it is up to you.  Indy 96 yellow cylinders are pretty stiff, but any of those - the black cylinders or yellow cylinders would firm up everything a bit more.

I’ll give that a shot, even thought about going back to the lows. I want to keep that high truck pop but I’ve been having a real truck crisis and been all over the place with my pop. Doesn’t help it’s summer break so my time on the board to tinker with this stuff is severely short. By far the worst madness I’ve had and it’s right before a trip where I’ll get to skate a significant amount

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alright, I'm back on af1's. currently on hard bushings but I'm still not as stable as I like. what's a good fit harder bushing for them? should I just get indy ones

[close]

Using an Indy bottom bushing will throw off geometry. IIRC Ace bottom bushings (board side) are 14mm and the tops are 12.

[close]

It would change - one mm lower for the Indy bushings than Ace bushings - but the black cylinder 94 Indy bushings are often a touch taller anyway, so they might actually work well enough and the fact that they might be lower means they will not turn as much either, which then equates to being more stable.  Just a thought, but that is why Ace turn so much, with a taller bottom bushing, so lowering it a little means that it would be a bit more stable, by reducing the amount of turn.

I have put Indy bushings in Ace trucks before, which still worked fine, from the set I tried, but it is up to you.  Indy 96 yellow cylinders are pretty stiff, but any of those - the black cylinders or yellow cylinders would firm up everything a bit more.

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I’ll give that a shot, even thought about going back to the lows. I want to keep that high truck pop but I’ve been having a real truck crisis and been all over the place with my pop. Doesn’t help it’s summer break so my time on the board to tinker with this stuff is severely short. By far the worst madness I’ve had and it’s right before a trip where I’ll get to skate a significant amount

i relate.
i am no help, ive not had a setup with great pop, and af1s. it’s me.

i’ve had several setups that worked well with ace classics. mostly 14” wb, and big wheels. 55 classics were good with whatever tho, usually 14.25”, and didn’t need the big ass wheels like i did with classic 33s/44s.


i’ve yet to get my af1 44s poppin. i’ve tried a fair amount of decks, tried to do the short wb thing with big wheels, that kinda inexplicably worked for me with the classics.

i cannot figure out how my truck madness is ventures most of the time, and then ace and thunder. like a crazy person.

i recently went on a trip, and i was going to get to skate in a place i had always wanted to get a chance to roll around. hemmed and hawed, and then went with the throwback setup: something that i would have been able to skate, at any point in my skate life, but small by todays standards, 8 deck, 8 ventures, 52s. and it sucked. i sucked (given), but i just couldn’t believe how bad it all was. came home, got an 8.25, matching ventures, big ass wheels, and have been settled for 2 plus months which is a record for me in current times.
so rest assured, you’ll fuck it up. take the pressure off, you are as good as done.

[Esmith5488]

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alright, I'm back on af1's. currently on hard bushings but I'm still not as stable as I like. what's a good fit harder bushing for them? should I just get indy ones

[close]

Using an Indy bottom bushing will throw off geometry. IIRC Ace bottom bushings (board side) are 14mm and the tops are 12.

[close]

It would change - one mm lower for the Indy bushings than Ace bushings - but the black cylinder 94 Indy bushings are often a touch taller anyway, so they might actually work well enough and the fact that they might be lower means they will not turn as much either, which then equates to being more stable.  Just a thought, but that is why Ace turn so much, with a taller bottom bushing, so lowering it a little means that it would be a bit more stable, by reducing the amount of turn.

I have put Indy bushings in Ace trucks before, which still worked fine, from the set I tried, but it is up to you.  Indy 96 yellow cylinders are pretty stiff, but any of those - the black cylinders or yellow cylinders would firm up everything a bit more.

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I’ll give that a shot, even thought about going back to the lows. I want to keep that high truck pop but I’ve been having a real truck crisis and been all over the place with my pop. Doesn’t help it’s summer break so my time on the board to tinker with this stuff is severely short. By far the worst madness I’ve had and it’s right before a trip where I’ll get to skate a significant amount

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i relate.
i am no help, ive not had a setup with great pop, and af1s. it’s me.

i’ve had several setups that worked well with ace classics. mostly 14” wb, and big wheels. 55 classics were good with whatever tho, usually 14.25”, and didn’t need the big ass wheels like i did with classic 33s/44s.


i’ve yet to get my af1 44s poppin. i’ve tried a fair amount of decks, tried to do the short wb thing with big wheels, that kinda inexplicably worked for me with the classics.

i cannot figure out how my truck madness is ventures most of the time, and then ace and thunder. like a crazy person.

i recently went on a trip, and i was going to get to skate in a place i had always wanted to get a chance to roll around. hemmed and hawed, and then went with the throwback setup: something that i would have been able to skate, at any point in my skate life, but small by todays standards, 8 deck, 8 ventures, 52s. and it sucked. i sucked (given), but i just couldn’t believe how bad it all was. came home, got an 8.25, matching ventures, big ass wheels, and have been settled for 2 plus months which is a record for me in current times.
so rest assured, you’ll fuck it up. take the pressure off, you are as good as done.

This sounds very similar to me except I’ve never tried the classics. Should I? lol. I tried going back to venture last month because I loved how I skated on those and how they felt but the extended wheelbase made me not love the 8.5 easy rider I was on. Got the 8.25 easy rider for the short wheelbase and the tail was so long it absolutely threw my head all off. I tried combos of 8.38 true fits with forged venture and cast and just sorta went back to default settings on my most recent deck that worked for me which was af1 55 and the 8.5 easy rider. There was moments when the ventures worked well for me but the issues with pop were getting so frustrating that I found myself not having fun and that’s the only reason to skate right?  Also I know this is a me issue and a skill issue but in the summer I just get way less time to iron this stuff out and more time to overthink it. If I could get venture stability with the ace wheelbase I would be a happy man. Even thought about going back to Indy gasp

[Esmith5488]

Just went and looked through my photos and all the photos I’m on the lows. I have zero idea of when I changed plates but looks like I was running the lows pretty hard and maybe I need to just go back to those

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alright, I'm back on af1's. currently on hard bushings but I'm still not as stable as I like. what's a good fit harder bushing for them? should I just get indy ones

[close]

Using an Indy bottom bushing will throw off geometry. IIRC Ace bottom bushings (board side) are 14mm and the tops are 12.

[close]

It would change - one mm lower for the Indy bushings than Ace bushings - but the black cylinder 94 Indy bushings are often a touch taller anyway, so they might actually work well enough and the fact that they might be lower means they will not turn as much either, which then equates to being more stable.  Just a thought, but that is why Ace turn so much, with a taller bottom bushing, so lowering it a little means that it would be a bit more stable, by reducing the amount of turn.

I have put Indy bushings in Ace trucks before, which still worked fine, from the set I tried, but it is up to you.  Indy 96 yellow cylinders are pretty stiff, but any of those - the black cylinders or yellow cylinders would firm up everything a bit more.

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I’ll give that a shot, even thought about going back to the lows. I want to keep that high truck pop but I’ve been having a real truck crisis and been all over the place with my pop. Doesn’t help it’s summer break so my time on the board to tinker with this stuff is severely short. By far the worst madness I’ve had and it’s right before a trip where I’ll get to skate a significant amount

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i relate.
i am no help, ive not had a setup with great pop, and af1s. it’s me.

i’ve had several setups that worked well with ace classics. mostly 14” wb, and big wheels. 55 classics were good with whatever tho, usually 14.25”, and didn’t need the big ass wheels like i did with classic 33s/44s.


i’ve yet to get my af1 44s poppin. i’ve tried a fair amount of decks, tried to do the short wb thing with big wheels, that kinda inexplicably worked for me with the classics.

i cannot figure out how my truck madness is ventures most of the time, and then ace and thunder. like a crazy person.

i recently went on a trip, and i was going to get to skate in a place i had always wanted to get a chance to roll around. hemmed and hawed, and then went with the throwback setup: something that i would have been able to skate, at any point in my skate life, but small by todays standards, 8 deck, 8 ventures, 52s. and it sucked. i sucked (given), but i just couldn’t believe how bad it all was. came home, got an 8.25, matching ventures, big ass wheels, and have been settled for 2 plus months which is a record for me in current times.
so rest assured, you’ll fuck it up. take the pressure off, you are as good as done.

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This sounds very similar to me except I’ve never tried the classics. Should I? lol. I tried going back to venture last month because I loved how I skated on those and how they felt but the extended wheelbase made me not love the 8.5 easy rider I was on. Got the 8.25 easy rider for the short wheelbase and the tail was so long it absolutely threw my head all off. I tried combos of 8.38 true fits with forged venture and cast and just sorta went back to default settings on my most recent deck that worked for me which was af1 55 and the 8.5 easy rider. There was moments when the ventures worked well for me but the issues with pop were getting so frustrating that I found myself not having fun and that’s the only reason to skate right?  Also I know this is a me issue and a skill issue but in the summer I just get way less time to iron this stuff out and more time to overthink it. If I could get venture stability with the ace wheelbase I would be a happy man. Even thought about going back to Indy gasp

i think we are saying similar things, opposite results. for me, venture works better and it’s not super close. i step on aces and love the swerve, but i start adding too much sauce.
ace 55 classics are fantastic and im about to buy some, even tho i dont really like riding big boards (8.5 is like the max rn). something about the ace classic 55s felt slightly different, and significantly better, for me, than the 44s (which should be my perfect size). the pop was just great on the 55s, i think it might be a wide truck stability thing.

from switching back and forth, from what is sorta opposite ends of the truck spectrum (ace and venture), i am reminded that i struggle with changing my popping foot placement. i’ve skated venture lo’s of and on for years (not currently), and im settled on popping from the top of the tail, that works for me. with aces i need to bring my foot down the tail, further from the tip, close to the middle.

[Esmith5488]

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alright, I'm back on af1's. currently on hard bushings but I'm still not as stable as I like. what's a good fit harder bushing for them? should I just get indy ones

[close]

Using an Indy bottom bushing will throw off geometry. IIRC Ace bottom bushings (board side) are 14mm and the tops are 12.

[close]

It would change - one mm lower for the Indy bushings than Ace bushings - but the black cylinder 94 Indy bushings are often a touch taller anyway, so they might actually work well enough and the fact that they might be lower means they will not turn as much either, which then equates to being more stable.  Just a thought, but that is why Ace turn so much, with a taller bottom bushing, so lowering it a little means that it would be a bit more stable, by reducing the amount of turn.

I have put Indy bushings in Ace trucks before, which still worked fine, from the set I tried, but it is up to you.  Indy 96 yellow cylinders are pretty stiff, but any of those - the black cylinders or yellow cylinders would firm up everything a bit more.

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I’ll give that a shot, even thought about going back to the lows. I want to keep that high truck pop but I’ve been having a real truck crisis and been all over the place with my pop. Doesn’t help it’s summer break so my time on the board to tinker with this stuff is severely short. By far the worst madness I’ve had and it’s right before a trip where I’ll get to skate a significant amount

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i relate.
i am no help, ive not had a setup with great pop, and af1s. it’s me.

i’ve had several setups that worked well with ace classics. mostly 14” wb, and big wheels. 55 classics were good with whatever tho, usually 14.25”, and didn’t need the big ass wheels like i did with classic 33s/44s.


i’ve yet to get my af1 44s poppin. i’ve tried a fair amount of decks, tried to do the short wb thing with big wheels, that kinda inexplicably worked for me with the classics.

i cannot figure out how my truck madness is ventures most of the time, and then ace and thunder. like a crazy person.

i recently went on a trip, and i was going to get to skate in a place i had always wanted to get a chance to roll around. hemmed and hawed, and then went with the throwback setup: something that i would have been able to skate, at any point in my skate life, but small by todays standards, 8 deck, 8 ventures, 52s. and it sucked. i sucked (given), but i just couldn’t believe how bad it all was. came home, got an 8.25, matching ventures, big ass wheels, and have been settled for 2 plus months which is a record for me in current times.
so rest assured, you’ll fuck it up. take the pressure off, you are as good as done.

[close]

This sounds very similar to me except I’ve never tried the classics. Should I? lol. I tried going back to venture last month because I loved how I skated on those and how they felt but the extended wheelbase made me not love the 8.5 easy rider I was on. Got the 8.25 easy rider for the short wheelbase and the tail was so long it absolutely threw my head all off. I tried combos of 8.38 true fits with forged venture and cast and just sorta went back to default settings on my most recent deck that worked for me which was af1 55 and the 8.5 easy rider. There was moments when the ventures worked well for me but the issues with pop were getting so frustrating that I found myself not having fun and that’s the only reason to skate right?  Also I know this is a me issue and a skill issue but in the summer I just get way less time to iron this stuff out and more time to overthink it. If I could get venture stability with the ace wheelbase I would be a happy man. Even thought about going back to Indy gasp

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i think we are saying similar things, opposite results. for me, venture works better and it’s not super close. i step on aces and love the swerve, but i start adding too much sauce.
ace 55 classics are fantastic and im about to buy some, even tho i dont really like riding big boards (8.5 is like the max rn). something about the ace classic 55s felt slightly different, and significantly better, for me, than the 44s (which should be my perfect size). the pop was just great on the 55s, i think it might be a wide truck stability thing.

from switching back and forth, from what is sorta opposite ends of the truck spectrum (ace and venture), i am reminded that i struggle with changing my popping foot placement. i’ve skated venture lo’s of and on for years (not currently), and im settled on popping from the top of the tail, that works for me. with aces i need to bring my foot down the tail, further from the tip, close to the middle.

My biggest struggle has been finding back foot placement. Being conscious about it has been difficult as I’m more of a further down not so much on the tip popper so that extra second of thinking about placement has been an adjustment. I feel seen though haha

[cVlt of the hVffer]

Anyone tried prototypes of these upcoming Ace bushings?

do tell.....

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alright, I'm back on af1's. currently on hard bushings but I'm still not as stable as I like. what's a good fit harder bushing for them? should I just get indy ones

[close]

Using an Indy bottom bushing will throw off geometry. IIRC Ace bottom bushings (board side) are 14mm and the tops are 12.

[close]

It would change - one mm lower for the Indy bushings than Ace bushings - but the black cylinder 94 Indy bushings are often a touch taller anyway, so they might actually work well enough and the fact that they might be lower means they will not turn as much either, which then equates to being more stable.  Just a thought, but that is why Ace turn so much, with a taller bottom bushing, so lowering it a little means that it would be a bit more stable, by reducing the amount of turn.

I have put Indy bushings in Ace trucks before, which still worked fine, from the set I tried, but it is up to you.  Indy 96 yellow cylinders are pretty stiff, but any of those - the black cylinders or yellow cylinders would firm up everything a bit more.

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I’ll give that a shot, even thought about going back to the lows. I want to keep that high truck pop but I’ve been having a real truck crisis and been all over the place with my pop. Doesn’t help it’s summer break so my time on the board to tinker with this stuff is severely short. By far the worst madness I’ve had and it’s right before a trip where I’ll get to skate a significant amount

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i relate.
i am no help, ive not had a setup with great pop, and af1s. it’s me.

i’ve had several setups that worked well with ace classics. mostly 14” wb, and big wheels. 55 classics were good with whatever tho, usually 14.25”, and didn’t need the big ass wheels like i did with classic 33s/44s.


i’ve yet to get my af1 44s poppin. i’ve tried a fair amount of decks, tried to do the short wb thing with big wheels, that kinda inexplicably worked for me with the classics.

i cannot figure out how my truck madness is ventures most of the time, and then ace and thunder. like a crazy person.

i recently went on a trip, and i was going to get to skate in a place i had always wanted to get a chance to roll around. hemmed and hawed, and then went with the throwback setup: something that i would have been able to skate, at any point in my skate life, but small by todays standards, 8 deck, 8 ventures, 52s. and it sucked. i sucked (given), but i just couldn’t believe how bad it all was. came home, got an 8.25, matching ventures, big ass wheels, and have been settled for 2 plus months which is a record for me in current times.
so rest assured, you’ll fuck it up. take the pressure off, you are as good as done.

[close]

This sounds very similar to me except I’ve never tried the classics. Should I? lol. I tried going back to venture last month because I loved how I skated on those and how they felt but the extended wheelbase made me not love the 8.5 easy rider I was on. Got the 8.25 easy rider for the short wheelbase and the tail was so long it absolutely threw my head all off. I tried combos of 8.38 true fits with forged venture and cast and just sorta went back to default settings on my most recent deck that worked for me which was af1 55 and the 8.5 easy rider. There was moments when the ventures worked well for me but the issues with pop were getting so frustrating that I found myself not having fun and that’s the only reason to skate right?  Also I know this is a me issue and a skill issue but in the summer I just get way less time to iron this stuff out and more time to overthink it. If I could get venture stability with the ace wheelbase I would be a happy man. Even thought about going back to Indy gasp

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i think we are saying similar things, opposite results. for me, venture works better and it’s not super close. i step on aces and love the swerve, but i start adding too much sauce.
ace 55 classics are fantastic and im about to buy some, even tho i dont really like riding big boards (8.5 is like the max rn). something about the ace classic 55s felt slightly different, and significantly better, for me, than the 44s (which should be my perfect size). the pop was just great on the 55s, i think it might be a wide truck stability thing.

from switching back and forth, from what is sorta opposite ends of the truck spectrum (ace and venture), i am reminded that i struggle with changing my popping foot placement. i’ve skated venture lo’s of and on for years (not currently), and im settled on popping from the top of the tail, that works for me. with aces i need to bring my foot down the tail, further from the tip, close to the middle.

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My biggest struggle has been finding back foot placement. Being conscious about it has been difficult as I’m more of a further down not so much on the tip popper so that extra second of thinking about placement has been an adjustment. I feel seen though haha

yeah that, big wheels, both very helpful for me with ace. and then this monster truck setup ends up
feeling light. i don’t get it, but that’s how it feels.
looking at my af1s, they just seem high quality. i cannot skate them for shit tho.
i ‘need’ to try and get some hard bushings

[WhatIsCurb]

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Anyone tried prototypes of these upcoming Ace bushings?

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My knowledge ends at their existence

[TheLowerBack]

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Anyone tried prototypes of these upcoming Ace bushings?

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do tell.....

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My knowledge ends at their existence

FWYT posted some in a story a year or so ago. Bones-esque dual duro, but a barell botom. I'd try them.

[cVlt of the hVffer]

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Anyone tried prototypes of these upcoming Ace bushings?

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do tell.....

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My knowledge ends at their existence

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FWYT posted some in a story a year or so ago. Bones-esque dual duro, but a barell botom. I'd try them.

Thanks. Not a fan of plastic inserts in bushings but perhaps Ace will figure it out. Either way, more durometer options would be good for Ace.

[minilogoflow]

https://youtu.be/glYZOfG4bh8?si=0rCOZxTLe7_JO7nR

This video randomly came across my YouTube feed but I thought this was interesting. At ~ 16:00 this guy shows what he says are some Ace prototype bushings that have a core like bones bushings. Anyone know anything more about these?

[BeachChicken]

Ya my shop got those about 18mo ago and gave them to some shop riders and locals. They blew out just like Bones.

[Shiro417gunpla]

Ya my shop got those about 18mo ago and gave them to some shop riders and locals. They blew out just like Bones.

Sucks to hear, stock bushing always bust for me

[lamfordie]

Any word on when they're gon a release the inverted kingpin?

[Xen]

Looks like the classics got a new base plate bottom design. they got rid of the diamond shape;

Speaking of new base plate bottom design, I'm surprised (unless I missed it) that the new Spanky ACEs that have unique shit to them not found in the rest of the line isn't here



Not sure how this is...new?




Looks  like the deepened / removed more material for the logo design? Or just used the low plates? Aren't all AF1s like this?

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I'm so happy to be back on Ace, I tried (idk why) Thunders and it was a horrible experience for me.
Best way I have imto explain it is that Thunder go wherever they want and Ace go where I want.

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Did the same thing. Spent a weekend on Thunder and just gave them away. I used to be able to go between but now I'm too deep into Ace. Praise Joey and Jah. I will still try the new turnier Thunders when and if they ever drop.

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i rode thunders from 2010-2022. there was a week or so i had the stage-1 33's and only went back to thunders because of the slipped axel and then went back to thunders.

for some reason in 2022 i re tried ace's the af1 44's and loved em. ive been skating them and really dig them- the biggest thing for me was the added height coming from thunders which made my skating a lot better.

i recently stepped on a homies board who has the thunder 149s and hated how low they feel. i guess they work for some but i like how ace's feel

and as for the bushings i love the ace hards- im also 135lbs and they work great for me. ace for life!

I thought ace and thunder were the same height? Were you on thunder lo’s?

[Bongwater Mojito]

After few sessions on the AF1s, I like them. The QC issues of release time 2021 seem to be gone and hard bushings make turn stabler for me. But I can't help noticing the slightly soggier feeling of the complete. The wheel bark is gone, even when there's half turn worth of play in each wheel. Could it be axle being more precisely machined? Not ruining my skateboarding but interesting difference.

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After few sessions on the AF1s, I like them. The QC issues of release time 2021 seem to be gone and hard bushings make turn stabler for me. But I can't help noticing the slightly soggier feeling of the complete. The wheel bark is gone, even when there's half turn worth of play in each wheel. Could it be axle being more precisely machined? Not ruining my skateboarding but interesting difference.

yeah i dunno what that’s about.
my wheels hand spin better on ace af1s, the axles seem to do that. my pop goes to worse/shit on are trucks.
unless.
i get the magic combo of large wheels, short wb, shape that agree with that, move my popping fit down the kick, away from the tip, closer to the truck

[myfeetarekillingme]

I’ve got madness brain and want to try some Ace 33 classics. Anyone looking to offload a pair (lightly skated OK, not trashed)?

[Richard Skidder]

After few sessions on the AF1s, I like them. The QC issues of release time 2021 seem to be gone and hard bushings make turn stabler for me. But I can't help noticing the slightly soggier feeling of the complete. The wheel bark is gone, even when there's half turn worth of play in each wheel. Could it be axle being more precisely machined? Not ruining my skateboarding but interesting difference.

The soggy feeling and sound dampening is coming from the heavy grease in the pivot cups.

[Bongwater Mojito]

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After few sessions on the AF1s, I like them. The QC issues of release time 2021 seem to be gone and hard bushings make turn stabler for me. But I can't help noticing the slightly soggier feeling of the complete. The wheel bark is gone, even when there's half turn worth of play in each wheel. Could it be axle being more precisely machined? Not ruining my skateboarding but interesting difference.

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The soggy feeling and sound dampening is coming from the heavy grease in the pivot cups.

I have Riptides, so cannot be that - at least they did not do that for Indys or Ventures.

[nurkdurk]

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After few sessions on the AF1s, I like them. The QC issues of release time 2021 seem to be gone and hard bushings make turn stabler for me. But I can't help noticing the slightly soggier feeling of the complete. The wheel bark is gone, even when there's half turn worth of play in each wheel. Could it be axle being more precisely machined? Not ruining my skateboarding but interesting difference.

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The soggy feeling and sound dampening is coming from the heavy grease in the pivot cups.

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I have Riptides, so cannot be that - at least they did not do that for Indys or Ventures.

I have riptides in AF1s and in Indy 144s. Aces make that waterlogged sound. Indys do not. I have no idea why.

[Xen]

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After few sessions on the AF1s, I like them. The QC issues of release time 2021 seem to be gone and hard bushings make turn stabler for me. But I can't help noticing the slightly soggier feeling of the complete. The wheel bark is gone, even when there's half turn worth of play in each wheel. Could it be axle being more precisely machined? Not ruining my skateboarding but interesting difference.

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The soggy feeling and sound dampening is coming from the heavy grease in the pivot cups.

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After few sessions on the AF1s, I like them. The QC issues of release time 2021 seem to be gone and hard bushings make turn stabler for me. But I can't help noticing the slightly soggier feeling of the complete. The wheel bark is gone, even when there's half turn worth of play in each wheel. Could it be axle being more precisely machined? Not ruining my skateboarding but interesting difference.

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The soggy feeling and sound dampening is coming from the heavy grease in the pivot cups.

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I have Riptides, so cannot be that - at least they did not do that for Indys or Ventures.

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I have riptides in AF1s and in Indy 144s. Aces make that waterlogged sound. Indys do not. I have no idea why.

Yeah, that grease comment is BS. lol...for real?

It's the metal/how they are cast/forged/hollow/not hollow etc. ACEs (and slappy) are very dense metals, not so porous or 'rough' like Indy/thunder/venture.

[Bongwater Mojito]

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After few sessions on the AF1s, I like them. The QC issues of release time 2021 seem to be gone and hard bushings make turn stabler for me. But I can't help noticing the slightly soggier feeling of the complete. The wheel bark is gone, even when there's half turn worth of play in each wheel. Could it be axle being more precisely machined? Not ruining my skateboarding but interesting difference.

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The soggy feeling and sound dampening is coming from the heavy grease in the pivot cups.

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After few sessions on the AF1s, I like them. The QC issues of release time 2021 seem to be gone and hard bushings make turn stabler for me. But I can't help noticing the slightly soggier feeling of the complete. The wheel bark is gone, even when there's half turn worth of play in each wheel. Could it be axle being more precisely machined? Not ruining my skateboarding but interesting difference.

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The soggy feeling and sound dampening is coming from the heavy grease in the pivot cups.

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I have Riptides, so cannot be that - at least they did not do that for Indys or Ventures.

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I have riptides in AF1s and in Indy 144s. Aces make that waterlogged sound. Indys do not. I have no idea why.

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Yeah, that grease comment is BS. lol...for real?

It's the metal/how they are cast/forged/hollow/not hollow etc. ACEs (and slappy) are very dense metals, not so porous or 'rough' like Indy/thunder/venture.

I would put my money on axle precision. When I set up my AF1s, I noticed that bearings slide in differently, there's less play between bearing inner ring and axle. The feeling and sound is similar what you get with other trucks by tightening wheels completely with a spacer. Also, the Spitfire bark is gone. As said, does not ruin my skating but impossible to not notice first.

[Lou Strux]

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After few sessions on the AF1s, I like them. The QC issues of release time 2021 seem to be gone and hard bushings make turn stabler for me. But I can't help noticing the slightly soggier feeling of the complete. The wheel bark is gone, even when there's half turn worth of play in each wheel. Could it be axle being more precisely machined? Not ruining my skateboarding but interesting difference.

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The soggy feeling and sound dampening is coming from the heavy grease in the pivot cups.

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After few sessions on the AF1s, I like them. The QC issues of release time 2021 seem to be gone and hard bushings make turn stabler for me. But I can't help noticing the slightly soggier feeling of the complete. The wheel bark is gone, even when there's half turn worth of play in each wheel. Could it be axle being more precisely machined? Not ruining my skateboarding but interesting difference.

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The soggy feeling and sound dampening is coming from the heavy grease in the pivot cups.

[close]

I have Riptides, so cannot be that - at least they did not do that for Indys or Ventures.

[close]

I have riptides in AF1s and in Indy 144s. Aces make that waterlogged sound. Indys do not. I have no idea why.

[close]

Yeah, that grease comment is BS. lol...for real?

It's the metal/how they are cast/forged/hollow/not hollow etc. ACEs (and slappy) are very dense metals, not so porous or 'rough' like Indy/thunder/venture.

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I would put my money on axle precision. When I set up my AF1s, I noticed that bearings slide in differently, there's less play between bearing inner ring and axle. The feeling and sound is similar what you get with other trucks by tightening wheels completely with a spacer. Also, the Spitfire bark is gone. As said, does not ruin my skating but impossible to not notice first.

This is wild to me.
My spits sound the same regardless of which truck they’re on.
But you go, baby.