Things You Pondered Today

[Hinna]

i need a leaf blower

[beandemon]

i need a leaf blower

For spots or the yard?

[Hinna]

for the spot. shit would take 2 minutes instead of almost an hour every day plus blisters

[Lenny the Fatface]

The term “woke” is going through a very similar trajectory as hipster did in the mid 2000s to early 2010s. Where it meant something very specific and through constant derogatory use by middle America became something completely different years later.


Hipster in 2005- a young person apart of the downtown Manhattan or West Hollywood nightlife scenes

Hipster in 2011 - a white person under 40 who shops at Trader Joe’s, or any minority that doesn’t fit a stereotype.


Woke in 2015- a Umar Johnson looking motherfucker who reads Afrocentric books, watches low budget documentaries, and has an amazing diet

Woke in 2021 - a white person under 40 who shops at Trader Joe’s, or any minority that complains to HR.

[Hinna]

the original term was for self imposed poverty types leeching on alternative lifestyles. earlier in the century idk if they were pretentious gentrifiers though

[spooky electric]

The letter W is dumb. Double e and double O aren't their own letters.
letter Q shouldn't need a u after it we know it makes a kw sound.
The letter C should always make a ch sound and we should just use S and K when needed eg circle would be sirkel.

has anyone ever heard or seen "www" referred to as "triple double u"?

[Hinna]

the end is nigh

[lampshade]

Wonder if when I was logging maple did any of it ever end up as a decks.

I'm sure.  A lot of Marc Johnson's and HSU's

[Hinna]

fkn rain. i was about to go sk8 after hanging laundry

[matty_c]

Full just read this thing where they said they got the mould for a trillion dollar coin ready to go so if they need to they can just make a trillion bucks out of thin air

That’s full gotta go on the list with monopoly on violence, being able to just conjure money

I’m not much of a businessman ay, seems cooked to me

[Mean salto]

Fuck imagine losing a trillion dollars just because a coin fell out your pocket.
You'd want it to be the size of a hubcap.

[mushroom slice]

A.I freaks me out. Has anyone ever stopped and asked themselves if we should be putting the burden of conciseness on machines? Robots are not asking for this. I never heard a robot ask a human for this. This seems wrong.

[4LOM]

A.I freaks me out. Has anyone ever stopped and asked themselves if we should be putting the burden of conciseness on machines? Robots are not asking for this. I never heard a robot ask a human for this. This seems wrong.

Would it be okay to make conscious robots if they were all mystics?

[matty_c]

Fuck imagine losing a trillion dollars just because a coin fell out your pocket.
You'd want it to be the size of a hubcap.

That reminds me of this joke where it’s a wedding reception and the brides dad is maggot trying to pay for everyones’s drinks with bottle tops and the groom says to the barman just go along with it bro, I’ll fix it all up at the end

Hours later and the barman’s all yeah I need the money
And the bloke says have you got change for a hubcap

[Hinna]

A.I freaks me out. Has anyone ever stopped and asked themselves if we should be putting the burden of conciseness on machines? Robots are not asking for this. I never heard a robot ask a human for this. This seems wrong.

theyve already openly stated that they will try to take over the world

[straight]

The letter W is dumb. Double e and double O aren't their own letters.

should be called double v anyways

[hustleknocker]

holy shit what happened with terry kennedy? free him

[mushroom slice]

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A.I freaks me out. Has anyone ever stopped and asked themselves if we should be putting the burden of conciseness on machines? Robots are not asking for this. I never heard a robot ask a human for this. This seems wrong.

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Would it be okay to make conscious robots if they were all mystics?

I guess. Lotsa mystics out there these days. I didn’t mean any offend 4lom if it makes peace my favorite bounty hunter was always zuckass. If I see boba fettt I will blast him for you.

[4LOM]

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A.I freaks me out. Has anyone ever stopped and asked themselves if we should be putting the burden of conciseness on machines? Robots are not asking for this. I never heard a robot ask a human for this. This seems wrong.

[close]

Would it be okay to make conscious robots if they were all mystics?

[close]

I guess. Lotsa mystics out there these days. I didn’t mean any offend 4lom if it makes peace my favorite bounty hunter was always zuckass. If I see boba fettt I will blast him for you.

Maybe a lot of people say they are, but it would show in their behavior - impartial compassion, equanimity of views - which is rare

I just thought mystical experiences are maximally rewarding, so not a burden but a blessing. Making AI Buddhas is not a harm to them.

But if regular consciousness is a burden, doesn’t your crit apply to having children? They don’t ask to be saddled with the absurdity of life.

Do we harm children by bringing them into existence?

[mushroom slice]

One Buddha is enough. If he didn’t get the message across I don’t think multiple Buddha’s will. If you meet the Buddha you kill the Buddha.
Human program says make more. I dunno. Ask a 30 year old woman why. I’m not programmed like that. Yes we harm people by bringing them into this realm.no one wants to be born. The thing that is different for a human and a robot is the human battery dosnt last forever. Humans are temporary. Robots can “live” forever. The day a human can live forever is the day the human is no longer human. An endless stream of conciseness never shutting off for ever is an actual hell. I would never wish that on a robot or a human.

[MichaelJacksonsGhost]

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A.I freaks me out. Has anyone ever stopped and asked themselves if we should be putting the burden of conciseness on machines? Robots are not asking for this. I never heard a robot ask a human for this. This seems wrong.

[close]

Would it be okay to make conscious robots if they were all mystics?

[close]

I guess. Lotsa mystics out there these days. I didn’t mean any offend 4lom if it makes peace my favorite bounty hunter was always zuckass. If I see boba fettt I will blast him for you.

[close]

Maybe a lot of people say they are, but it would show in their behavior - impartial compassion, equanimity of views - which is rare

I just thought mystical experiences are maximally rewarding, so not a burden but a blessing. Making AI Buddhas is not a harm to them.

But if regular consciousness is a burden, doesn’t your crit apply to having children? They don’t ask to be saddled with the absurdity of life.

Do we harm children by bringing them into existence?

I’m pretty sure a lot of serious Buddhists see life as a cycle compromised mainly of suffering. So to bring a child into the world is to force them into said suffering, a serious faux pas. (Any Buddhists out there please correct me if I’m wrong with this generalization.)

The personal question WRT kiddies would seem to be, does suffering outweigh pleasure in life, and if so, are we willing to subject another person to that suffering in order to chance an experience or two of pleasure?

IMO, from the Buddhist take, robot consciousness and child conception are pretty much the same thing in terms of suffering and life, ie both are no good.

[4LOM]

^^^^^^
I didn’t mean to bring in Buddhist metaphysics/psychology. Just that there are states of consciousness that are not a hassle.

Buddhist enlightenment is one, also Maslow’s peak experiences, kensho, moksha, various mystical traditions.

These involve self-transcendence, non-attachment, ego-loss. So, if we create conscious robots that lack a self, then we do not create consciousness that is suffering, but consciousness that is free from the dissatisfactions of consciousness.

A problem is that we’ll never know whether robots are conscious.
None of us know whether anybody else is conscious, since everyone’s experience is consistent with their being the only conscious being and everyone else dark inside.

If we don’t know whether the people around us are conscious, we’ll never know whether our smart toaster is.

[mushroom slice]

^^^^^^
I didn’t mean to bring in Buddhist metaphysics/psychology. Just that there are states of consciousness that are not a hassle.

Buddhist enlightenment is one, also Maslow’s peak experiences, kensho, moksha, various mystical traditions.

These involve self-transcendence, non-attachment, ego-loss. So, if we create conscious robots that lack a self, then we do not create consciousness that is suffering, but consciousness that is free from the dissatisfactions of consciousness.

A problem is that we’ll never know whether robots are conscious.
None of us know whether anybody else is conscious, since everyone’s experience is consistent with their being the only conscious being and everyone else dark inside.

If we don’t know whether the people around us are conscious, we’ll never know whether our smart toaster is.

I don’t know about this. To assume that I am somehow more special then everyone else around me and that this whole universe just happened to show up the minute I got here for me and me alone dosnt make any sense. Truthfully if anything I think the entire universe is actually conscious and we are all the parts of it trying to see what the fuck we all are.  We will all see it different because of our own unique perspectives but truthfully we are all looking at the same thing. Us.

[4LOM]

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^^^^^^
I didn’t mean to bring in Buddhist metaphysics/psychology. Just that there are states of consciousness that are not a hassle.

Buddhist enlightenment is one, also Maslow’s peak experiences, kensho, moksha, various mystical traditions.

These involve self-transcendence, non-attachment, ego-loss. So, if we create conscious robots that lack a self, then we do not create consciousness that is suffering, but consciousness that is free from the dissatisfactions of consciousness.

A problem is that we’ll never know whether robots are conscious.
None of us know whether anybody else is conscious, since everyone’s experience is consistent with their being the only conscious being and everyone else dark inside.

If we don’t know whether the people around us are conscious, we’ll never know whether our smart toaster is.

[close]

I don’t know about this. To assume that I am somehow more special then everyone else around me and that this whole universe just happened to show up the minute I got here for me and me alone dosnt make any sense. Truthfully if anything I think the entire universe is actually conscious and we are all the parts of it trying to see what the fuck we all are.  We will all see it different because of our own unique perspectives but truthfully we are all looking at the same thing. Us.

Consciousness is the only thing you can know directly, the only thing known for certain, everything else is inference. There might be a material world, but you're trusting that your mental representations accurately represent a world independent of your mind. And there's no way to do that, since all you have are mental representations.

It's Descartes - you can doubt everything, except that you're thinking. To doubt is to think, so when you doubt you're thinking you prove it.

Why think the universe is conscious?
I'm sympathetic - I'm pushing mysticism for robots after all - but unsure.

[Hinna]

dermatological thought. being a sweaty sk8r who gets dry face easily in the winter is not fun. lotion just makes it worse sometimes. either way my face gets kinda reddish

[mushroom slice]

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^^^^^^
I didn’t mean to bring in Buddhist metaphysics/psychology. Just that there are states of consciousness that are not a hassle.

Buddhist enlightenment is one, also Maslow’s peak experiences, kensho, moksha, various mystical traditions.

These involve self-transcendence, non-attachment, ego-loss. So, if we create conscious robots that lack a self, then we do not create consciousness that is suffering, but consciousness that is free from the dissatisfactions of consciousness.

A problem is that we’ll never know whether robots are conscious.
None of us know whether anybody else is conscious, since everyone’s experience is consistent with their being the only conscious being and everyone else dark inside.

If we don’t know whether the people around us are conscious, we’ll never know whether our smart toaster is.

[close]

I don’t know about this. To assume that I am somehow more special then everyone else around me and that this whole universe just happened to show up the minute I got here for me and me alone dosnt make any sense. Truthfully if anything I think the entire universe is actually conscious and we are all the parts of it trying to see what the fuck we all are.  We will all see it different because of our own unique perspectives but truthfully we are all looking at the same thing. Us.

[close]

Consciousness is the only thing you can know directly, the only thing known for certain, everything else is inference. There might be a material world, but you're trusting that your mental representations accurately represent a world independent of your mind. And there's no way to do that, since all you have are mental representations.

It's Descartes - you can doubt everything, except that you're thinking. To doubt is to think, so when you doubt you're thinking you prove it.

Why think the universe is conscious?
I'm sympathetic - I'm pushing mysticism for robots after all - but unsure.

Other then my own person experiences with substances that I felt expanded my confines into other levels briefly  I think the universe is conscious because of the way it seems to be structured. Almost identical to a mammalian brain. Reality appears to have a very fractal like quality to it. when I think about where I exist it is always inside my head. I’m not my arms or legs or anything else in my body.you can cut all that away and I’m still there.  I’m this spot right between my eyes. That’s where I see the world from. What is that? Some cluster of braincells and neurons . What are those? They look like the universe. How strange. Why would that be a coincidence?there is nothing random here. Even the randomness isn’t actually random in a fractal.  Eventually As you look closer and closer everything becomes nothing. It’s only there when you look for it. How do you separate yourself from everything else if it’s all made of nothing? The whole thing seems to loop.

[Hinna]

squirrel whisperer. the saga continues

[matty_c]

How’s fucken candice Owens form, full talking shit about how we living in a police state and how she reckons the Americans should invade us to save us

What a fucking mort, if she wants to live here she gotta get a visa like every other cunt

As if we’re not doing all this shit to save our First Nations people mate
Same as the kiwis
No fucking idea
You’d think she’d have some fucking decorum

People shouldn’t say dumb shit just to make the news

She shoulda just done a sex tape instead

[radcunt]

These shit cunts using us as some kind of trojan horse of shit ideas can fuck off.  Check our death rate Candice, ya fucken deadshit. We're good thanks.

[Fhk]

I never heard of New Deals Children of the Sun until today. I can't for the life of me understand how I missed it.