Movies/TV shows that don't suck on Netflix

[OwlGreen]

I'm kinda digging The Agency. Trashy as fuck but finally some that is shot somewhat decently.

[Atiba Applebum]

I'm kinda digging The Agency. Trashy as fuck but finally some that is shot somewhat decently.

You must be very refined if you think that’s trashy

[botefdunn]

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I'm kinda digging The Agency. Trashy as fuck but finally some that is shot somewhat decently.

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You must be very refined if you think that’s trashy

Nah, I agree with @OwlGreen, though I also enjoyed it.
There's a lot more emphasis on overpriced cars, clothes, and real estate, than there is on any kind of real social or geopolitical questioning, and none of us will ever be as refined as the millionaire casts' collective bone-structure.

[OwlGreen]

I just mean it's mostly mindless action/intrigue bullshit, which I enjoy. Also it doesn't look like an overlit soap opera, unlike most shows I see lately.

[Atiba Applebum]

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I'm kinda digging The Agency. Trashy as fuck but finally some that is shot somewhat decently.

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You must be very refined if you think that’s trashy

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Nah, I agree with @OwlGreen, though I also enjoyed it.
There's a lot more emphasis on overpriced cars, clothes, and real estate, than there is on any kind of real social or geopolitical questioning, and none of us will ever be as refined as the millionaire casts' collective bone-structure.

This is the Fassbender show we’re talking about?   I’m 5 eps in and it’s fairly Le Carre to me because it’s about the psychic toll espionage plays on its practitioners and the damage it plays on one’s personal relations.   Haven’t really noticed any cars and the real estate just seems like nice London apartments to me as an outsider from the US.  Outside of the actress playing tbe Ethiopian lady and maybe the girl who got the shit kicked out of her, everyone’s looking kinda appropriately worn down.   Even fassbender looks like he’s slowly evolving into the rock monster from Never Ending Story

[brycickle]

She's Sudanese, they just met in Ethiopia.

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I'm kinda digging The Agency. Trashy as fuck but finally some that is shot somewhat decently.

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You must be very refined if you think that’s trashy

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Nah, I agree with @OwlGreen, though I also enjoyed it.
There's a lot more emphasis on overpriced cars, clothes, and real estate, than there is on any kind of real social or geopolitical questioning, and none of us will ever be as refined as the millionaire casts' collective bone-structure.

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This is the Fassbender show we’re talking about?   I’m 5 eps in and it’s fairly Le Carre to me because it’s about the psychic toll espionage plays on its practitioners and the damage it plays on one’s personal relations.   Haven’t really noticed any cars and the real estate just seems like nice London apartments to me as an outsider from the US.  Outside of the actress playing tbe Ethiopian lady and maybe the girl who got the shit kicked out of her, everyone’s looking kinda appropriately worn down.   Even fassbender looks like he’s slowly evolving into the rock monster from Never Ending Story

Down to argue this for fun, but ultimately I have no issue with us seeing it differently. Superficially I see the Lecarré comparison, but his stories are all about the moral bankruptcy of the nations and institutions engaged in waging violence on one another. Almost invariably in his stories, no good act goes unpunished, often even culminating in the death of the protagonist. Whereas, what we have here (so far) is a pretty clear "hero", working collaboratively within institutions so far framed as humane and "good guy"-esque. The main character's relationships are not failing, to the contrary, they play to positive social archetypes of single-dad-bonding-with-coming-of-age-daughter, valued coworker, and loving, trusting partner.
My predictions for further episodes are: daughter gets kidnapped, dad and cia friends bend the rules to save her, as well as somehow "saving" the sudanese from the clutches of the evil chinese and russian interests. The narration scenes so far with fassbender in hospital seem to indicate a debriefing, or epilogue in which he is still in good standing with the powers that be. We shall see, I will watch.

[Atiba Applebum]

She's Sudanese, they just met in Ethiopia.

Oof that’s right.  Which ties into him being there bc of China trying to gain influence in Sudan (or am I wrong)

[Atiba Applebum]

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I'm kinda digging The Agency. Trashy as fuck but finally some that is shot somewhat decently.

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You must be very refined if you think that’s trashy

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Nah, I agree with @OwlGreen, though I also enjoyed it.
There's a lot more emphasis on overpriced cars, clothes, and real estate, than there is on any kind of real social or geopolitical questioning, and none of us will ever be as refined as the millionaire casts' collective bone-structure.

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This is the Fassbender show we’re talking about?   I’m 5 eps in and it’s fairly Le Carre to me because it’s about the psychic toll espionage plays on its practitioners and the damage it plays on one’s personal relations.   Haven’t really noticed any cars and the real estate just seems like nice London apartments to me as an outsider from the US.  Outside of the actress playing tbe Ethiopian lady and maybe the girl who got the shit kicked out of her, everyone’s looking kinda appropriately worn down.   Even fassbender looks like he’s slowly evolving into the rock monster from Never Ending Story

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Down to argue this for fun, but ultimately I have no issue with us seeing it differently. Superficially I see the Lecarré comparison, but his stories are all about the moral bankruptcy of the nations and institutions engaged in waging violence on one another. Almost invariably in his stories, no good act goes unpunished, often even culminating in the death of the protagonist. Whereas, what we have here (so far) is a pretty clear "hero", working collaboratively within institutions so far framed as humane and "good guy"-esque. The main character's relationships are not failing, to the contrary, they play to positive social archetypes of single-dad-bonding-with-coming-of-age-daughter, valued coworker, and loving, trusting partner.
My predictions for further episodes are: daughter gets kidnapped, dad and cia friends bend the rules to save her, as well as somehow "saving" the sudanese from the clutches of the evil chinese and russian interests. The narration scenes so far with fassbender in hospital seem to indicate a debriefing, or epilogue in which he is still in good standing with the powers that be. We shall see, I will watch.

Oh I don’t have much to debate - I think it’s really interesting what you wrote bc you obviously know JLC a lot more with me.  And I have a surface level understanding of him (which sounds like I was wrong about but that was my take away from what I remember about Spy who Came in from the Cold).   I don’t even love it necessarily, I just didn’t have the same take away about their material goods.   People always rave about the Buttersworths as playwrights, so I usually give them a chance…


 (…just learned this show is an adaptation of a French show)

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I'm kinda digging The Agency. Trashy as fuck but finally some that is shot somewhat decently.

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You must be very refined if you think that’s trashy

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Nah, I agree with @OwlGreen, though I also enjoyed it.
There's a lot more emphasis on overpriced cars, clothes, and real estate, than there is on any kind of real social or geopolitical questioning, and none of us will ever be as refined as the millionaire casts' collective bone-structure.

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This is the Fassbender show we’re talking about?   I’m 5 eps in and it’s fairly Le Carre to me because it’s about the psychic toll espionage plays on its practitioners and the damage it plays on one’s personal relations.   Haven’t really noticed any cars and the real estate just seems like nice London apartments to me as an outsider from the US.  Outside of the actress playing tbe Ethiopian lady and maybe the girl who got the shit kicked out of her, everyone’s looking kinda appropriately worn down.   Even fassbender looks like he’s slowly evolving into the rock monster from Never Ending Story

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Down to argue this for fun, but ultimately I have no issue with us seeing it differently. Superficially I see the Lecarré comparison, but his stories are all about the moral bankruptcy of the nations and institutions engaged in waging violence on one another. Almost invariably in his stories, no good act goes unpunished, often even culminating in the death of the protagonist. Whereas, what we have here (so far) is a pretty clear "hero", working collaboratively within institutions so far framed as humane and "good guy"-esque. The main character's relationships are not failing, to the contrary, they play to positive social archetypes of single-dad-bonding-with-coming-of-age-daughter, valued coworker, and loving, trusting partner.
My predictions for further episodes are: daughter gets kidnapped, dad and cia friends bend the rules to save her, as well as somehow "saving" the sudanese from the clutches of the evil chinese and russian interests. The narration scenes so far with fassbender in hospital seem to indicate a debriefing, or epilogue in which he is still in good standing with the powers that be. We shall see, I will watch.

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Oh I don’t have much to debate - I think it’s really interesting what you wrote bc you obviously know JLC a lot more with me.  And I have a surface level understanding of him (which sounds like I was wrong about but that was my take away from what I remember about Spy who Came in from the Cold).   I don’t even love it necessarily, I just didn’t have the same take away about their material goods.   People always rave about the Buttersworths as playwrights, so I usually give them a chance…


 (…just learned this show is an adaptation of a French show)

cool! I'm gonna look it up.

Also, I've gotten lots of good recs from.you and others in this thread, so thanks. It made me think, I'd be curious to know what the best show was that people watched this year?
Mine was Our flag means death and Tokyo Vice tie.

[Atiba Applebum]

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I'm kinda digging The Agency. Trashy as fuck but finally some that is shot somewhat decently.

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You must be very refined if you think that’s trashy

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Nah, I agree with @OwlGreen, though I also enjoyed it.
There's a lot more emphasis on overpriced cars, clothes, and real estate, than there is on any kind of real social or geopolitical questioning, and none of us will ever be as refined as the millionaire casts' collective bone-structure.

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This is the Fassbender show we’re talking about?   I’m 5 eps in and it’s fairly Le Carre to me because it’s about the psychic toll espionage plays on its practitioners and the damage it plays on one’s personal relations.   Haven’t really noticed any cars and the real estate just seems like nice London apartments to me as an outsider from the US.  Outside of the actress playing tbe Ethiopian lady and maybe the girl who got the shit kicked out of her, everyone’s looking kinda appropriately worn down.   Even fassbender looks like he’s slowly evolving into the rock monster from Never Ending Story

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Down to argue this for fun, but ultimately I have no issue with us seeing it differently. Superficially I see the Lecarré comparison, but his stories are all about the moral bankruptcy of the nations and institutions engaged in waging violence on one another. Almost invariably in his stories, no good act goes unpunished, often even culminating in the death of the protagonist. Whereas, what we have here (so far) is a pretty clear "hero", working collaboratively within institutions so far framed as humane and "good guy"-esque. The main character's relationships are not failing, to the contrary, they play to positive social archetypes of single-dad-bonding-with-coming-of-age-daughter, valued coworker, and loving, trusting partner.
My predictions for further episodes are: daughter gets kidnapped, dad and cia friends bend the rules to save her, as well as somehow "saving" the sudanese from the clutches of the evil chinese and russian interests. The narration scenes so far with fassbender in hospital seem to indicate a debriefing, or epilogue in which he is still in good standing with the powers that be. We shall see, I will watch.

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Oh I don’t have much to debate - I think it’s really interesting what you wrote bc you obviously know JLC a lot more with me.  And I have a surface level understanding of him (which sounds like I was wrong about but that was my take away from what I remember about Spy who Came in from the Cold).   I don’t even love it necessarily, I just didn’t have the same take away about their material goods.   People always rave about the Buttersworths as playwrights, so I usually give them a chance…


 (…just learned this show is an adaptation of a French show)

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cool! I'm gonna look it up.

Also, I've gotten lots of good recs from.you and others in this thread, so thanks. It made me think, I'd be curious to know what the best show was that people watched this year?
Mine was Our flag means death and Tokyo Vice tie.

Shogun. 

English Teacher might be my favorite comedy (also on FX). 

[Mean salto]

It took me months but I watched Buffy the vampire slayer and angel. I much prefer the earlier seasons but that could just be me because I always like the earlier days of shows. Anyway if you want to go back to some simpler times monster of the week style viewing I'd say it mostly holds up (altho there's def some sus stuff by today's standards)

[tanhoe]

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I'm kinda digging The Agency. Trashy as fuck but finally some that is shot somewhat decently.

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You must be very refined if you think that’s trashy

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Nah, I agree with @OwlGreen, though I also enjoyed it.
There's a lot more emphasis on overpriced cars, clothes, and real estate, than there is on any kind of real social or geopolitical questioning, and none of us will ever be as refined as the millionaire casts' collective bone-structure.

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This is the Fassbender show we’re talking about?   I’m 5 eps in and it’s fairly Le Carre to me because it’s about the psychic toll espionage plays on its practitioners and the damage it plays on one’s personal relations.   Haven’t really noticed any cars and the real estate just seems like nice London apartments to me as an outsider from the US.  Outside of the actress playing tbe Ethiopian lady and maybe the girl who got the shit kicked out of her, everyone’s looking kinda appropriately worn down.   Even fassbender looks like he’s slowly evolving into the rock monster from Never Ending Story

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Down to argue this for fun, but ultimately I have no issue with us seeing it differently. Superficially I see the Lecarré comparison, but his stories are all about the moral bankruptcy of the nations and institutions engaged in waging violence on one another. Almost invariably in his stories, no good act goes unpunished, often even culminating in the death of the protagonist. Whereas, what we have here (so far) is a pretty clear "hero", working collaboratively within institutions so far framed as humane and "good guy"-esque. The main character's relationships are not failing, to the contrary, they play to positive social archetypes of single-dad-bonding-with-coming-of-age-daughter, valued coworker, and loving, trusting partner.
My predictions for further episodes are: daughter gets kidnapped, dad and cia friends bend the rules to save her, as well as somehow "saving" the sudanese from the clutches of the evil chinese and russian interests. The narration scenes so far with fassbender in hospital seem to indicate a debriefing, or epilogue in which he is still in good standing with the powers that be. We shall see, I will watch.

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Oh I don’t have much to debate - I think it’s really interesting what you wrote bc you obviously know JLC a lot more with me.  And I have a surface level understanding of him (which sounds like I was wrong about but that was my take away from what I remember about Spy who Came in from the Cold).   I don’t even love it necessarily, I just didn’t have the same take away about their material goods.   People always rave about the Buttersworths as playwrights, so I usually give them a chance…


 (…just learned this show is an adaptation of a French show)

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cool! I'm gonna look it up.

Also, I've gotten lots of good recs from.you and others in this thread, so thanks. It made me think, I'd be curious to know what the best show was that people watched this year?
Mine was Our flag means death and Tokyo Vice tie.

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Shogun. 

English Teacher might be my favorite comedy (also on FX).

English Teacher and Shogun are my two favorite shows of the year

[Blind Fisherman]

New season of Squid Game is off to a wild start.
 
Edit: Finished it last night. It was fun and intense, but nowhere near the original. Which is understandable bc that shit was unlike anything we had seen before. Not going to give any spoilers or anything, but it's just a setup for the third season. Looking forward to the ultimate conclusion.

[Atiba Applebum]

New season of Squid Game is off to a wild start.
 
Edit: Finished it last night. It was fun and intense, but nowhere near the original. Which is understandable bc that shit was unlike anything we had seen before. Not going to give any spoilers or anything, but it's just a setup for the third season. Looking forward to the ultimate conclusion.

I thought it was awful.   Maybe I’m not used to Korean tv acting or the dub amplified it, but every side person was just so umbelievable stupid or over-reactionary  from the old man, to the perm guy and his mom, to that Thanos guy.   I’m actually surprised they treated the trans women as well as they did.   


On the positive note, the David Fincher US adaptation will be amazing (if he actually does it).   The Korean tv shows that come over here have good premises, but I think I just have a different sensibility that I can’t get behind the people

[Blind Fisherman]

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New season of Squid Game is off to a wild start.
 
Edit: Finished it last night. It was fun and intense, but nowhere near the original. Which is understandable bc that shit was unlike anything we had seen before. Not going to give any spoilers or anything, but it's just a setup for the third season. Looking forward to the ultimate conclusion.

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I thought it was awful.   Maybe I’m not used to Korean tv acting or the dub amplified it, but every side person was just so umbelievable stupid or over-reactionary  from the old man, to the perm guy and his mom, to that Thanos guy.   I’m actually surprised they treated the trans women as well as they did.   


On the positive note, the David Fincher US adaptation will be amazing (if he actually does it).   The Korean tv shows that come over here have good premises, but I think I just have a different sensibility that I can’t get behind the people

Not to ignore the rest of what you wrote, but did you really watch it in the English dub? I’ve found that watching any Asian drama in any language other than the original absolutely ruins the experience.

I will agree that the characters were pretty meh, but I am left wondering if the writers will do more to redeem those characters that were still alive at the end. 

I feel like we’ll differ in opinion the US version, though. Fincher has had some great stuff, but I’m overall not a fan of his work. Even less of a fan of Asian dramas being reworked into a US based show.

[matt_2993]

I have to say I'm fuckin loving season 2 of squid games.  I'm a huge fan of kdramas and Korean cinema and as hyped as this show got with the first season I'm stoked on the new one being half way in

[Atiba Applebum]

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New season of Squid Game is off to a wild start.
 
Edit: Finished it last night. It was fun and intense, but nowhere near the original. Which is understandable bc that shit was unlike anything we had seen before. Not going to give any spoilers or anything, but it's just a setup for the third season. Looking forward to the ultimate conclusion.

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I thought it was awful.   Maybe I’m not used to Korean tv acting or the dub amplified it, but every side person was just so umbelievable stupid or over-reactionary  from the old man, to the perm guy and his mom, to that Thanos guy.   I’m actually surprised they treated the trans women as well as they did.   


On the positive note, the David Fincher US adaptation will be amazing (if he actually does it).   The Korean tv shows that come over here have good premises, but I think I just have a different sensibility that I can’t get behind the people

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Not to ignore the rest of what you wrote, but did you really watch it in the English dub? I’ve found that watching any Asian drama in any language other than the original absolutely ruins the experience.

I will agree that the characters were pretty meh, but I am left wondering if the writers will do more to redeem those characters that were still alive at the end. 

I feel like we’ll differ in opinion the US version, though. Fincher has had some great stuff, but I’m overall not a fan of his work. Even less of a fan of Asian dramas being reworked into a US based show.

Well it was a group setting and the vote was for dub.  I’ll usually watch in the original language, but I used to to work in QC where I had to check US films dubbed and subbed for other countries, so I’m a little inured to dubbing if it’s of a certain quality (which is usually down to the actors), but usually the quality dubs are just on US stuff going out rather than coming in. 

What are other Asian shows that the US has adapted (aside from an anime/manga)?   Fincher is far from a lazy, rubber stamp kind of guy, so I would assume it would be it’s own thing and specific to the US (US characters would have no idea what that subway game, the cookie game or a squid game are)

[Mean salto]

Gotta say in general acting big brained for watching sub over dub is the most annoying shit of modern times.
The creators don't give a shit either way but they no doubt didn't intend for their movies/shows to be watched while mostly paying attention to the bottom inch of the screen.
And all this new fascination with getting more and more accurate/ getting shitty because the dub has slightly different wording than the subs is so fucking dumb. Its somebody's job to rewrite shit so its still interesting not just sounding a robot exactly translating text. They've been doing that longer than there's been audible dialogue in films.



I personally didn't like squid game very much but it's part of something that's been bothering me more and more for several years now. These shows put in sex, drugs, violence etc to appeal to adults but they are so dumb that they feel like they were actually made for ten years olds.
Squid game feels like it could be pre teen show like hunger games or whatever

[Painted Baby]

Gotta say in general acting big brained for watching sub over dub is the most annoying shit of modern times.
The creators don't give a shit either way but they no doubt didn't intend for their movies/shows to be watched while mostly paying attention to the bottom inch of the screen.
And all this new fascination with getting more and more accurate/ getting shitty because the dub has slightly different wording than the subs is so fucking dumb. Its somebody's job to rewrite shit so its still interesting not just sounding a robot exactly translating text. They've been doing that longer than there's been audible dialogue in films.



I personally didn't like squid game very much but it's part of something that's been bothering me more and more for several years now. These shows put in sex, drugs, violence etc to appeal to adults but they are so dumb that they feel like they were actually made for ten years olds.
Squid game feels like it could be pre teen show like hunger games or whatever

It's hard not to notice that it's basically Beast Games a couple years down the road. That's what put me off the first season.

[botefdunn]

What are other Asian shows that the US has adapted (aside from an anime/manga)?

Anybody ever see the version of Battle Royale that Matt Damon and Ben Affleck did with alyssa Milano, back before Good Will Hunting?
Me either

[Atiba Applebum]

Gotta say in general acting big brained for watching sub over dub is the most annoying shit of modern times.
The creators don't give a shit either way but they no doubt didn't intend for their movies/shows to be watched while mostly paying attention to the bottom inch of the screen.
And all this new fascination with getting more and more accurate/ getting shitty because the dub has slightly different wording than the subs is so fucking dumb. Its somebody's job to rewrite shit so its still interesting not just sounding a robot exactly translating text. They've been doing that longer than there's been audible dialogue in films.



I personally didn't like squid game very much but it's part of something that's been bothering me more and more for several years now. These shows put in sex, drugs, violence etc to appeal to adults but they are so dumb that they feel like they were actually made for ten years olds.
Squid game feels like it could be pre teen show like hunger games or whatever

Hah i was thinking about that earlier.   This isn’t elite level dialogue I’d be missing out on.  It’s not like reading Tolstoy in the original Russian.  The only issue I have with dubs are just a shitty version of the actual dubbing which most of shows have.   

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Gotta say in general acting big brained for watching sub over dub is the most annoying shit of modern times.
The creators don't give a shit either way but they no doubt didn't intend for their movies/shows to be watched while mostly paying attention to the bottom inch of the screen.
And all this new fascination with getting more and more accurate/ getting shitty because the dub has slightly different wording than the subs is so fucking dumb. Its somebody's job to rewrite shit so its still interesting not just sounding a robot exactly translating text. They've been doing that longer than there's been audible dialogue in films.



I personally didn't like squid game very much but it's part of something that's been bothering me more and more for several years now. These shows put in sex, drugs, violence etc to appeal to adults but they are so dumb that they feel like they were actually made for ten years olds.
Squid game feels like it could be pre teen show like hunger games or whatever

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Hah i was thinking about that earlier.   This isn’t elite level dialogue I’d be missing out on.  It’s not like reading Tolstoy in the original Russian.  The only issue I have with dubs are just a shitty version of the actual dubbing which most of shows have.

I guess I also only put the dub on if it's more of a visual thing. Squid games was all about the big set pieces so I didn't mind the voice acting. But on this subject makes me wonder what the actual product is like in other countries, like Superbad is really popular in Japan and I haven't watched it in years but Im imagining that's almost impossible to translate in any accurate way.

Anyway not to overly shit on squid games too much but whenever that purple hair guy was on screen I heard this in my head
 

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Gotta say in general acting big brained for watching sub over dub is the most annoying shit of modern times.
The creators don't give a shit either way but they no doubt didn't intend for their movies/shows to be watched while mostly paying attention to the bottom inch of the screen.
And all this new fascination with getting more and more accurate/ getting shitty because the dub has slightly different wording than the subs is so fucking dumb. Its somebody's job to rewrite shit so its still interesting not just sounding a robot exactly translating text. They've been doing that longer than there's been audible dialogue in films.



I personally didn't like squid game very much but it's part of something that's been bothering me more and more for several years now. These shows put in sex, drugs, violence etc to appeal to adults but they are so dumb that they feel like they were actually made for ten years olds.
Squid game feels like it could be pre teen show like hunger games or whatever

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Hah i was thinking about that earlier.   This isn’t elite level dialogue I’d be missing out on.  It’s not like reading Tolstoy in the original Russian.  The only issue I have with dubs are just a shitty version of the actual dubbing which most of shows have.

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I guess I also only put the dub on if it's more of a visual thing. Squid games was all about the big set pieces so I didn't mind the voice acting. But on this subject makes me wonder what the actual product is like in other countries, like Superbad is really popular in Japan and I haven't watched it in years but Im imagining that's almost impossible to translate in any accurate way.

Anyway not to overly shit on squid games too much but whenever that purple hair guy was on screen I heard this in my head
 

Speaking of Power Rangers, Rita Repulsa showed us back in the day what good dubbing looks like.  Took me a while to realize that was some Japanese woman and every scene suited up fighting puttys was in Japan...which i guess answers my question about Asian shows adapted in America...but I am genuinely curious if there are shows more recently that have been adapted

(any one else shocked Disney let them use Thanos not only as a name, but a very clear reference.  Makes me think they're kinda cool bc i remember there was supposed to be a joke in Captain Marvel when she lands in the 90s and crashes into a video store, she sees a movie poster for the Mask and shoots it bc she thinks its a Skrull, but the studio that owns The Mask put the kibosh on it)

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Gotta say in general acting big brained for watching sub over dub is the most annoying shit of modern times.
The creators don't give a shit either way but they no doubt didn't intend for their movies/shows to be watched while mostly paying attention to the bottom inch of the screen.
And all this new fascination with getting more and more accurate/ getting shitty because the dub has slightly different wording than the subs is so fucking dumb. Its somebody's job to rewrite shit so its still interesting not just sounding a robot exactly translating text. They've been doing that longer than there's been audible dialogue in films.



I personally didn't like squid game very much but it's part of something that's been bothering me more and more for several years now. These shows put in sex, drugs, violence etc to appeal to adults but they are so dumb that they feel like they were actually made for ten years olds.
Squid game feels like it could be pre teen show like hunger games or whatever

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Hah i was thinking about that earlier.   This isn’t elite level dialogue I’d be missing out on.  It’s not like reading Tolstoy in the original Russian.  The only issue I have with dubs are just a shitty version of the actual dubbing which most of shows have.

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I guess I also only put the dub on if it's more of a visual thing. Squid games was all about the big set pieces so I didn't mind the voice acting. But on this subject makes me wonder what the actual product is like in other countries, like Superbad is really popular in Japan and I haven't watched it in years but Im imagining that's almost impossible to translate in any accurate way.

Anyway not to overly shit on squid games too much but whenever that purple hair guy was on screen I heard this in my head
 

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Speaking of Power Rangers, Rita Repulsa showed us back in the day what good dubbing looks like.  Took me a while to realize that was some Japanese woman and every scene suited up fighting puttys was in Japan...which i guess answers my question about Asian shows adapted in America...but I am genuinely curious if there are shows more recently that have been adapted

(any one else shocked Disney let them use Thanos not only as a name, but a very clear reference.  Makes me think they're kinda cool bc i remember there was supposed to be a joke in Captain Marvel when she lands in the 90s and crashes into a video store, she sees a movie poster for the Mask and shoots it bc she thinks its a Skrull, but the studio that owns The Mask put the kibosh on it)

There was a japanese show called "monkey" that I think was from the 70s but was then dubbed and was pretty popular in Aus I think all the way into the 00s. (I would have watched it in the early 90s) And I think they made a western version of it somewhat recently altho it's based off of the journey west/east so how much it's meant to be like the original show and how much the original stories I don't know.


There's also a danish/Swedish show called the bridge which they remade as an American/Mexican show and a french/english show called the tunnel (and a few more versions with whatever countries share boarders)

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Gotta say in general acting big brained for watching sub over dub is the most annoying shit of modern times.
The creators don't give a shit either way but they no doubt didn't intend for their movies/shows to be watched while mostly paying attention to the bottom inch of the screen.
And all this new fascination with getting more and more accurate/ getting shitty because the dub has slightly different wording than the subs is so fucking dumb. Its somebody's job to rewrite shit so its still interesting not just sounding a robot exactly translating text. They've been doing that longer than there's been audible dialogue in films.



I personally didn't like squid game very much but it's part of something that's been bothering me more and more for several years now. These shows put in sex, drugs, violence etc to appeal to adults but they are so dumb that they feel like they were actually made for ten years olds.
Squid game feels like it could be pre teen show like hunger games or whatever

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Hah i was thinking about that earlier.   This isn’t elite level dialogue I’d be missing out on.  It’s not like reading Tolstoy in the original Russian.  The only issue I have with dubs are just a shitty version of the actual dubbing which most of shows have.

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I guess I also only put the dub on if it's more of a visual thing. Squid games was all about the big set pieces so I didn't mind the voice acting. But on this subject makes me wonder what the actual product is like in other countries, like Superbad is really popular in Japan and I haven't watched it in years but Im imagining that's almost impossible to translate in any accurate way.

Anyway not to overly shit on squid games too much but whenever that purple hair guy was on screen I heard this in my head
 

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Speaking of Power Rangers, Rita Repulsa showed us back in the day what good dubbing looks like.  Took me a while to realize that was some Japanese woman and every scene suited up fighting puttys was in Japan...which i guess answers my question about Asian shows adapted in America...but I am genuinely curious if there are shows more recently that have been adapted

(any one else shocked Disney let them use Thanos not only as a name, but a very clear reference.  Makes me think they're kinda cool bc i remember there was supposed to be a joke in Captain Marvel when she lands in the 90s and crashes into a video store, she sees a movie poster for the Mask and shoots it bc she thinks its a Skrull, but the studio that owns The Mask put the kibosh on it)

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There was a japanese show called "monkey" that I think was from the 70s but was then dubbed and was pretty popular in Aus I think all the way into the 00s. (I would have watched it in the early 90s) And I think they made a western version of it somewhat recently altho it's based off of the journey west/east so how much it's meant to be like the original show and how much the original stories I don't know.


There's also a danish/Swedish show called the bridge which they remade as an American/Mexican show and a french/english show called the tunnel (and a few more versions with whatever countries share boarders)

Adapting French shows is de rigueur atm

[GnarAlarm]

Here's something that DOES suck...

My girl wanted to watch the "Roast of 2024"
It was not funny. Avoid at all costs.
Mark Normand being there made it even worse.

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New season of Squid Game is off to a wild start.
 
Edit: Finished it last night. It was fun and intense, but nowhere near the original. Which is understandable bc that shit was unlike anything we had seen before. Not going to give any spoilers or anything, but it's just a setup for the third season. Looking forward to the ultimate conclusion.

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I thought it was awful.   Maybe I’m not used to Korean tv acting or the dub amplified it, but every side person was just so umbelievable stupid or over-reactionary  from the old man, to the perm guy and his mom, to that Thanos guy.   I’m actually surprised they treated the trans women as well as they did.   

Glad im not alone on this...after the 2nd episode the show fell off a cliff for me. The drama just felt useless knowing that most people are going die just like the 1st season.

The only thing that was the saving grace was that K-Rap dude on drugs the whole time.  He actually made me lol eveytime he was on screen

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While i did enjoy squid game 2, what the fuck was that ending? All these years just to give us a half-season?


The Offer is still by far the best show I've watched since True Detective season 1. Need a replacement but trying to avoid starting Succession unless it's truly worthwhile

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While i did enjoy squid game 2, what the fuck was that ending? All these years just to give us a half-season?


The Offer is still by far the best show I've watched since True Detective season 1. Need a replacement but trying to avoid starting Succession unless it's truly worthwhile

Well liking the Offer THAT much makes it really hard to pin you down, but personally Succession beats it every day of the week.   But, if you want Mafia/crime family + movies, the Get Shorty show was amazing even if it seemed like it ended abruptly in S3.   Industry is really good.   Once it gets going, it masters tension and stress on a Hidden Gems level