Spitfire formula four

[Mbrimson88]

Last couple of posts totally convinced me the F4 97a are exactly what I have been looking for. I had my mind set on Conical Fulls though and the only 97a available in Germany are Classics. How much difference does it really make?

Unless they have more out that I haven't seen, they are only in classics in 54 and 56mm in the 97 duro, so almost the same width as conical full, but a rounder shape down to the riding surface, which is not a worry really and still skate well.  I prefer the conical full when new or the classic shape once they have worn down some, but classics are still an easy wheel to skate, as used by many pro riders and regular skaters.

The shape guide:

https://www.spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/

[listentoaheartbeat]

Thanks, I thought it was just Euro supply lagging behind. I had checked the guide, that’s where I got the idea of trying Conical Fulls from. Starting out with a 7 mm wider riding surface at 56 mm size compared to Classics really appeals to me. I guess I’ll wait and see if they release more soon.

[Mbrimson88]

Thanks, I thought it was just Euro supply lagging behind. I had checked the guide, that’s where I got the idea of trying Conical Fulls from. Starting out with a 7 mm wider riding surface at 56 mm size compared to Classics really appeals to me. I guess I’ll wait and see if they release more soon.

I think a lot of people have been wanting or are waiting for the 97 in a wider profile, so who knows if or when that will happen.

From taking the old formula Spitfire wheels to a few decent hills and power sliding for half a day, the wheels would be a whole lot smaller, but these Formula Four wheels just don't wear down anywhere near that, as I found out when I thought I could take some bigger wheels down a few mm, otherwise I would have been keen for the 56 mm classics and gone on a mission to get them down to 52 or so.

[arrbee]

Has anyone heard when Radial Slims will be in production again?

https://theoryskate.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-formula-four-radial-slims-54mm
https://geometricskateshop.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-f4-radial-slim-51mm-101-duro
https://southsideskateshop.com/collections/wheels/products/copy-of-spitfire-wheels-f4-tablet-52mm101a
https://southsideskateshop.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-wheels-f4-classic-silver-54mm101a
https://energyskateshop.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-formula-4-venomous-radial-slim-101a-wheels
https://303boards-com.myshopify.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-101-formula-4-venomous-radial-slim-multiple-sizes

[hiljentaa]

@arrbee

Cheers dude. I found most of those while google questing.

I'm specifically looking for 51mm 99a Radial Slims. I can't skate often til spring anyway so I'll keep looking. If not, maybe I'll try the 101s.

[rocklobster]

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Has anyone heard when Radial Slims will be in production again?

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https://theoryskate.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-formula-four-radial-slims-54mm
https://geometricskateshop.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-f4-radial-slim-51mm-101-duro
https://southsideskateshop.com/collections/wheels/products/copy-of-spitfire-wheels-f4-tablet-52mm101a
https://southsideskateshop.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-wheels-f4-classic-silver-54mm101a
https://energyskateshop.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-formula-4-venomous-radial-slim-101a-wheels
https://303boards-com.myshopify.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-101-formula-4-venomous-radial-slim-multiple-sizes

Parade is a good place to search multiple shops at once. Tried ordering the Venomous Radial Slim from Southside and got an email telling me they were out of stock. Drop them a DM to check availability.

[arrbee]

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Has anyone heard when Radial Slims will be in production again?

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https://theoryskate.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-formula-four-radial-slims-54mm
https://geometricskateshop.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-f4-radial-slim-51mm-101-duro
https://southsideskateshop.com/collections/wheels/products/copy-of-spitfire-wheels-f4-tablet-52mm101a
https://southsideskateshop.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-wheels-f4-classic-silver-54mm101a
https://energyskateshop.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-formula-4-venomous-radial-slim-101a-wheels
https://303boards-com.myshopify.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-101-formula-4-venomous-radial-slim-multiple-sizes

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Parade is a good place to search multiple shops at once. Tried ordering the Venomous Radial Slim from Southside and got an email telling me they were out of stock. Drop them a DM to check availability.

Pulled this list from parade.

[anon]

these 99a og classics are feeling grippier than usual for an f4

[Mbrimson88]

these 99a og classics are feeling grippier than usual for an f4

You could resell them as 97 duro!

Think of all the people who want wider 97 duro wheels and don't want the classics, currently the only shape that they come in right now.

Just a thought anyway, but more curious than anything else about the new 97 duro as I am yet to see or skate any, but still have plenty of older OG formula in all duro and size options.

I am thinking the bigger / wider seem stickier too. What size are they?

[FrenchFriedClownFingers]

i'm just dropping in to say that this wheel is the most best. still love them and they look so good i'd like to have a house built out of them so i can always see that creamy bone smooth texture. never stop making these

[anon]

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these 99a og classics are feeling grippier than usual for an f4

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You could resell them as 97 duro!

Think of all the people who want wider 97 duro wheels and don't want the classics, currently the only shape that they come in right now.

Just a thought anyway, but more curious than anything else about the new 97 duro as I am yet to see or skate any, but still have plenty of older OG formula in all duro and size options.

I am thinking the bigger / wider seem stickier too. What size are they?

55mm. previously had 55mm tablets, which have half a mm wider riding surface. they slid better!

[Mbrimson88]

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these 99a og classics are feeling grippier than usual for an f4

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You could resell them as 97 duro!

Think of all the people who want wider 97 duro wheels and don't want the classics, currently the only shape that they come in right now.

Just a thought anyway, but more curious than anything else about the new 97 duro as I am yet to see or skate any, but still have plenty of older OG formula in all duro and size options.

I am thinking the bigger / wider seem stickier too. What size are they?

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55mm. previously had 55mm tablets, which have half a mm wider riding surface. they slid better!

They might be better as a keeper for slippery ground, if they are that much different.

I know they do harden up some more as they get older too, which is why I like old wheels more than brand new ones, but if they are not actually 99 duro, then you are always going to have a struggle with them compared to other 99 duro wheels.

As you said, interesting the sizes are almost comparable, tablet 55 x 33 / 23 riding surface and the og classic 55 x 33 / 22.5 riding surface, that you had before, so they should perform pretty much the same in almost everything.

[Frank and Fred]

Finally put a bit of time in on the 97s. They are noticeably slower than 99s. Going to be good for crust and curbs but bog a little in the park for sure.

[TastyBurrito]

Finally put a bit of time in on the 97s. They are noticeably slower than 99s. Going to be good for crust and curbs but bog a little in the park for sure.

I got the same feeling. Rode the 56mm. They gripped nicely in the park when there was a touch of moisture in the air. But most def felt slower than my 55mm 99a tablets.

[jay_nev]

Finally put a bit of time in on the 97s. They are noticeably slower than 99s. Going to be good for crust and curbs but bog a little in the park for sure.

they seem to wear down at the same  rate as the 99a formula fours? crust n curb what I am specifically looking at them for. But comparatively I’ve really liked the 95a NFG V I’m riding. Attracted to the classic shape especially for an egg

[Frank and Fred]

Not enough time on them to say. But my guess is they will be even more flat spot resistant but wear a little quicker.

[RichardBarkley]

Where I live it's essentially all crust even some of the parks.

Skated my 99s yesterday after skating the 97 for 2 months. Dam it felt so rattle to me. I'm just so used to the 97s now don't think I can ever go back. in my opinion if your an exclusive crust guy. These are your wheel.

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Finally put a bit of time in on the 97s. They are noticeably slower than 99s. Going to be good for crust and curbs but bog a little in the park for sure.

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they seem to wear down at the same  rate as the 99a formula fours? crust n curb what I am specifically looking at them for. But comparatively I’ve really liked the 95a NFG V I’m riding. Attracted to the classic shape especially for an egg

Haven't bought a non spitfire wheel in years and it annoys me. What's the slide like on then nfg?

[Croquet temper]

Even F4s get chunks taken out of them pretty easily. All wheels are nothing but dust in the wind.

[Lukabrazi]

52mm 99du OG classics

pretty psyched to skate this wheel for the next few months. 

really like that these are skinnier than a Conical , but with a little more riding surface. should be a pretty stable feeling wheel .

[FUBAR]

^^whoa those are rad

[Mbrimson88]

And the inside graphic stays clean too.

Nice wheels!!!

[Ok]

52mm 99du OG classics

pretty psyched to skate this wheel for the next few months. 

really like that these are skinnier than a Conical , but with a little more riding surface. should be a pretty stable feeling wheel .

Interesting
Be cool to hear how they workout. I’m looking for the biggest wheel I get with venture lot’s/thunder 147s

[Frank and Fred]

Spent all weekend on the 97s. Like all F4s they really start to shine once you've torn them up a little. Anyway, these are good wheels. You are only sacrificing a little slide and a bit of speed in smooth parks. So if you like crust and you're not a super techie ledgetarian you might like these. I skated some pretty fucked up ground recently and they were worked great with no noticeable wear.

[Mbrimson88]

Spent all weekend on the 97s. Like all F4s they really start to shine once you've torn them up a little. Anyway, these are good wheels. You are only sacrificing a little slide and a bit of speed in smooth parks. So if you like crust and you're not a super techie ledgetarian you might like these. I skated some pretty fucked up ground recently and they were worked great with no noticeable wear.

Best description:

super techie ledgetarian

[jay_nev]

Spent all weekend on the 97s. Like all F4s they really start to shine once you've torn them up a little. Anyway, these are good wheels. You are only sacrificing a little slide and a bit of speed in smooth parks. So if you like crust and you're not a super techie ledgetarian you might like these. I skated some pretty fucked up ground recently and they were worked great with no noticeable wear.

are they noticeably wearing down and is the riding surface getting a bit wider? That could be a sweet spot like you said, once they’re torn up a bit and the riding surface gets a bit more stable

[Frank and Fred]

Not noticeably worn down yet just feeling more broken in. The riding surface will get wider when they wear due to the 'classic shape.' Even did a few blunt slides on them, which to me is the true test of a wheels slideablity.

[munchbox]

anyone got any big spitfires (originally 56-60mm) that are worn down to 53 or lower that they are willing to sell? cant wear them down myself due to truck height

[tzhangdox]

anyone got any big spitfires (originally 56-60mm) that are worn down to 53 or lower that they are willing to sell? cant wear them down myself due to truck height

Why dont you just get some 53s... if you want the width just get conical fulls?

[munchbox]

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anyone got any big spitfires (originally 56-60mm) that are worn down to 53 or lower that they are willing to sell? cant wear them down myself due to truck height

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Why dont you just get some 53s... if you want the width just get conical fulls?

width and riding surface would be much smaller with 53s. i just had a set that i got to 49mm and they werent as wide as i thought they would get

[Mbrimson88]

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anyone got any big spitfires (originally 56-60mm) that are worn down to 53 or lower that they are willing to sell? cant wear them down myself due to truck height

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Why dont you just get some 53s... if you want the width just get conical fulls?

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width and riding surface would be much smaller with 53s. i just had a set that i got to 49mm and they werent as wide as i thought they would get

I love the worn down bigger wheels and have lots, but am in Australia, so not really a viable option.

There are usually quite a few guys here I help with bigger new wheels and I swap back to get their old wheels when they are done, so 56mm classics at 52mm are perfect for width and riding surface.  Even the conical full new at 53 or 54 are still not quite as nice as the classic shape when worn down, as well as taking an angle grinder to reshape big fat squared off or sharp edged 58 conical full to a slightly more radial shape, which works really well.

If you knew a few dudes like that, you would be set for wheels.