Spitfire formula four

[FrenchFriedClownFingers]

i'm just dropping in to say that this wheel is the most best. still love them and they look so good i'd like to have a house built out of them so i can always see that creamy bone smooth texture. never stop making these

[anon]

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these 99a og classics are feeling grippier than usual for an f4

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You could resell them as 97 duro!

Think of all the people who want wider 97 duro wheels and don't want the classics, currently the only shape that they come in right now.

Just a thought anyway, but more curious than anything else about the new 97 duro as I am yet to see or skate any, but still have plenty of older OG formula in all duro and size options.

I am thinking the bigger / wider seem stickier too. What size are they?

55mm. previously had 55mm tablets, which have half a mm wider riding surface. they slid better!

[Mbrimson88]

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these 99a og classics are feeling grippier than usual for an f4

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You could resell them as 97 duro!

Think of all the people who want wider 97 duro wheels and don't want the classics, currently the only shape that they come in right now.

Just a thought anyway, but more curious than anything else about the new 97 duro as I am yet to see or skate any, but still have plenty of older OG formula in all duro and size options.

I am thinking the bigger / wider seem stickier too. What size are they?

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55mm. previously had 55mm tablets, which have half a mm wider riding surface. they slid better!

They might be better as a keeper for slippery ground, if they are that much different.

I know they do harden up some more as they get older too, which is why I like old wheels more than brand new ones, but if they are not actually 99 duro, then you are always going to have a struggle with them compared to other 99 duro wheels.

As you said, interesting the sizes are almost comparable, tablet 55 x 33 / 23 riding surface and the og classic 55 x 33 / 22.5 riding surface, that you had before, so they should perform pretty much the same in almost everything.

[Frank and Fred]

Finally put a bit of time in on the 97s. They are noticeably slower than 99s. Going to be good for crust and curbs but bog a little in the park for sure.

[TastyBurrito]

Finally put a bit of time in on the 97s. They are noticeably slower than 99s. Going to be good for crust and curbs but bog a little in the park for sure.

I got the same feeling. Rode the 56mm. They gripped nicely in the park when there was a touch of moisture in the air. But most def felt slower than my 55mm 99a tablets.

[jay_nev]

Finally put a bit of time in on the 97s. They are noticeably slower than 99s. Going to be good for crust and curbs but bog a little in the park for sure.

they seem to wear down at the same  rate as the 99a formula fours? crust n curb what I am specifically looking at them for. But comparatively I’ve really liked the 95a NFG V I’m riding. Attracted to the classic shape especially for an egg

[Frank and Fred]

Not enough time on them to say. But my guess is they will be even more flat spot resistant but wear a little quicker.

[RichardBarkley]

Where I live it's essentially all crust even some of the parks.

Skated my 99s yesterday after skating the 97 for 2 months. Dam it felt so rattle to me. I'm just so used to the 97s now don't think I can ever go back. in my opinion if your an exclusive crust guy. These are your wheel.

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Finally put a bit of time in on the 97s. They are noticeably slower than 99s. Going to be good for crust and curbs but bog a little in the park for sure.

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they seem to wear down at the same  rate as the 99a formula fours? crust n curb what I am specifically looking at them for. But comparatively I’ve really liked the 95a NFG V I’m riding. Attracted to the classic shape especially for an egg

Haven't bought a non spitfire wheel in years and it annoys me. What's the slide like on then nfg?

[Croquet temper]

Even F4s get chunks taken out of them pretty easily. All wheels are nothing but dust in the wind.

[Lukabrazi]

52mm 99du OG classics

pretty psyched to skate this wheel for the next few months. 

really like that these are skinnier than a Conical , but with a little more riding surface. should be a pretty stable feeling wheel .

[FUBAR]

^^whoa those are rad

[Mbrimson88]

And the inside graphic stays clean too.

Nice wheels!!!

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52mm 99du OG classics

pretty psyched to skate this wheel for the next few months. 

really like that these are skinnier than a Conical , but with a little more riding surface. should be a pretty stable feeling wheel .

Interesting
Be cool to hear how they workout. I’m looking for the biggest wheel I get with venture lot’s/thunder 147s

[Frank and Fred]

Spent all weekend on the 97s. Like all F4s they really start to shine once you've torn them up a little. Anyway, these are good wheels. You are only sacrificing a little slide and a bit of speed in smooth parks. So if you like crust and you're not a super techie ledgetarian you might like these. I skated some pretty fucked up ground recently and they were worked great with no noticeable wear.

[Mbrimson88]

Spent all weekend on the 97s. Like all F4s they really start to shine once you've torn them up a little. Anyway, these are good wheels. You are only sacrificing a little slide and a bit of speed in smooth parks. So if you like crust and you're not a super techie ledgetarian you might like these. I skated some pretty fucked up ground recently and they were worked great with no noticeable wear.

Best description:

super techie ledgetarian

[jay_nev]

Spent all weekend on the 97s. Like all F4s they really start to shine once you've torn them up a little. Anyway, these are good wheels. You are only sacrificing a little slide and a bit of speed in smooth parks. So if you like crust and you're not a super techie ledgetarian you might like these. I skated some pretty fucked up ground recently and they were worked great with no noticeable wear.

are they noticeably wearing down and is the riding surface getting a bit wider? That could be a sweet spot like you said, once they’re torn up a bit and the riding surface gets a bit more stable

[Frank and Fred]

Not noticeably worn down yet just feeling more broken in. The riding surface will get wider when they wear due to the 'classic shape.' Even did a few blunt slides on them, which to me is the true test of a wheels slideablity.

[munchbox]

anyone got any big spitfires (originally 56-60mm) that are worn down to 53 or lower that they are willing to sell? cant wear them down myself due to truck height

[tzhangdox]

anyone got any big spitfires (originally 56-60mm) that are worn down to 53 or lower that they are willing to sell? cant wear them down myself due to truck height

Why dont you just get some 53s... if you want the width just get conical fulls?

[munchbox]

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anyone got any big spitfires (originally 56-60mm) that are worn down to 53 or lower that they are willing to sell? cant wear them down myself due to truck height

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Why dont you just get some 53s... if you want the width just get conical fulls?

width and riding surface would be much smaller with 53s. i just had a set that i got to 49mm and they werent as wide as i thought they would get

[Mbrimson88]

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anyone got any big spitfires (originally 56-60mm) that are worn down to 53 or lower that they are willing to sell? cant wear them down myself due to truck height

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Why dont you just get some 53s... if you want the width just get conical fulls?

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width and riding surface would be much smaller with 53s. i just had a set that i got to 49mm and they werent as wide as i thought they would get

I love the worn down bigger wheels and have lots, but am in Australia, so not really a viable option.

There are usually quite a few guys here I help with bigger new wheels and I swap back to get their old wheels when they are done, so 56mm classics at 52mm are perfect for width and riding surface.  Even the conical full new at 53 or 54 are still not quite as nice as the classic shape when worn down, as well as taking an angle grinder to reshape big fat squared off or sharp edged 58 conical full to a slightly more radial shape, which works really well.

If you knew a few dudes like that, you would be set for wheels.

[RichardBarkley]

Has anyone noticed the 97a stain really easy? Ive never had this before with any other f4

[hiljentaa]

It looks like there is a new cheaper Radial Slim F4, kinda like those Lil Smokies Tablets.



They were $4 cheaper than CFs and Classics when they were in stock @ CCS.

[Mbrimson88]

Has anyone noticed the 97a stain really easy? Ive never had this before with any other f4

Any wheel will take in whatever colouring there is around, eg those Spitfire Skeleton Key half dyed wheels, but even rolling off into grass does stain the wheels somewhat I had noticed.

I like how you took off the swirl on the classics graphic too, either by skating hard or by choice - I have done that a lot.

[rocklobster]

It looks like there is a new cheaper Radial Slim F4, kinda like those Lil Smokies Tablets.



They were $4 cheaper than CFs and Classics when they were in stock @ CCS.

Feeling the plainer graphic more than the red / green.

[RichardBarkley]

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Has anyone noticed the 97a stain really easy? Ive never had this before with any other f4

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Any wheel will take in whatever colouring there is around, eg those Spitfire Skeleton Key half dyed wheels, but even rolling off into grass does stain the wheels somewhat I had noticed.

I like how you took off the swirl on the classics graphic too, either by skating hard or by choice - I have done that a lot.

Cheers

I got that by skating an absolute dog shit ledge. That I've since  lacquered and waxed. The edge is so pointy. It made shit of my wheels. Grinded the hell out of thunders too.



Grinds smooth now

[Surf The Earth]

I need help. Headin to my Local shop tonight to get new wheels with some birthday money. I have the OG Classic and Conical Full put to the side. I have always gotten conical full 56 or 58, and I am contemplating trying the OG Classic f4s in either a 58 or 60. Anyone got experience with both? what are the notable differences, on board,  between the shapes

[Firebert]

I need help. Headin to my Local shop tonight to get new wheels with some birthday money. I have the OG Classic and Conical Full put to the side. I have always gotten conical full 56 or 58, and I am contemplating trying the OG Classic f4s in either a 58 or 60. Anyone got experience with both? what are the notable differences, on board,  between the shapes

Conical Full all the way for me - they roll over coping better and slide better. However, if you primarily skate ledges and or rails, I'd get the og shape instead.

[Surf The Earth]

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I need help. Headin to my Local shop tonight to get new wheels with some birthday money. I have the OG Classic and Conical Full put to the side. I have always gotten conical full 56 or 58, and I am contemplating trying the OG Classic f4s in either a 58 or 60. Anyone got experience with both? what are the notable differences, on board,  between the shapes

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Conical Full all the way for me - they roll over coping better and slide better. However, if you primarily skate ledges and or rails, I'd get the og shape instead.

Thanks man. Mostly transition, and slappies for me, so I may just stay the course with the conical full

[Firebert]

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I need help. Headin to my Local shop tonight to get new wheels with some birthday money. I have the OG Classic and Conical Full put to the side. I have always gotten conical full 56 or 58, and I am contemplating trying the OG Classic f4s in either a 58 or 60. Anyone got experience with both? what are the notable differences, on board,  between the shapes

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Conical Full all the way for me - they roll over coping better and slide better. However, if you primarily skate ledges and or rails, I'd get the og shape instead.

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Thanks man. Mostly transition, and slappies for me, so I may just stay the course with the conical full

Yeah, it's easy to get hyped on "NEW SHAPE!", until you realize that everything you skate is easier with what you already have. Either way, one can't regret having new f4s no matter what shape they are, we're just splitting hairs here.