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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2880 on: September 30, 2020, 09:47:05 AM »
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do any of you know if Spitfire makes or plans on making a 95A wheel?  im riding 80HD's now.  they are so smooth, but too soft for sliding.  i was also thinking of running a set of OJ's because i found a set of 95A's.

anybody have any experience to compare the two? let me know what yall think.  i havent had a set of OJ's since the early 90's.
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as @chris. said above a 97a spitfire formula is coming. I just grabbed some classic formula OG classics to try in the meantime. Little more forgiving than the 99a per reviews. There was discussion on the OJ Nomads 95a formula in the Wheels thread, below. OJ just shared some clips around the wheel on their YT page.
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=82118.msg3402380#new

sick vid as well, thanks for the link

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2881 on: September 30, 2020, 12:36:29 PM »
Tablets under 50mm are so good. I gave away my last worn down set and I miss them.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2882 on: September 30, 2020, 02:13:57 PM »
Tablets under 50mm are so good. I gave away my last worn down set and I miss them.

Mine just hit 49mm (coming from 53), they start to chip away more now. Like, F4s are loosing some pieces sometimes, but mine are really going at it now. Don't know why.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2883 on: September 30, 2020, 02:25:56 PM »
anyone have measurements of the classic full? (not to be confused with OG classic shape)

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Classic full 54mm - wheel width 34 riding surface 19

Spitfire Classic Full 52mm F4 99A Wheels: Amazon.co.uk: Sports & Outdoors

Radial 54mm - wheel width 34 riding surface 20

Spitfire Formula Four 99D Radial 52mm | Multi | Wheels | 2111002252 |  Caliroots

Is there a good breakdown for all of the different F4 wheels like this? I want to order another pair but all the different offerings is a little confusing. (Also sorry if this question has been asking multiple times before!)

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« Reply #2884 on: September 30, 2020, 02:41:35 PM »
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anyone have measurements of the classic full? (not to be confused with OG classic shape)

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Classic full 54mm - wheel width 34 riding surface 19

Spitfire Classic Full 52mm F4 99A Wheels: Amazon.co.uk: Sports & Outdoors

Radial 54mm - wheel width 34 riding surface 20

Spitfire Formula Four 99D Radial 52mm | Multi | Wheels | 2111002252 |  Caliroots

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Is there a good breakdown for all of the different F4 wheels like this? I want to order another pair but all the different offerings is a little confusing. (Also sorry if this question has been asking multiple times before!)

https://www.spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/

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« Reply #2885 on: October 01, 2020, 06:05:12 AM »
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What's the smallest f4 size.

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They made 49mm F4 classics but I haven't seen any in ages. The 51mm Tablets, while they are indeed 1mm taller than the 50mm classics, are very slim and wear down evenly and still skate wonderfully when tiny. I ran my last set down to 46mm and was still hesitant to retire them.
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I just setup 51mm tabs with the intent on getting them in the mid 40 range
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They're kind of great for that because they maintain shape and it doesn't look weird or anything. I'll post pics of my 46s later.
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Yeah please do cheers man





Here they are, started at 51 and now 46. Still skateable but, but they were looking wild on some of the big boy shapes. I set them up at the beginning of April and was skating them consistently through July. I was home from work and skating every day, so it is a testament to how well they hold up.

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« Reply #2886 on: October 01, 2020, 06:32:53 AM »
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What's the smallest f4 size.

Trying to see if should get board cakes fat bundts or not
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They made 49mm F4 classics but I haven't seen any in ages. The 51mm Tablets, while they are indeed 1mm taller than the 50mm classics, are very slim and wear down evenly and still skate wonderfully when tiny. I ran my last set down to 46mm and was still hesitant to retire them.
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I just setup 51mm tabs with the intent on getting them in the mid 40 range
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They're kind of great for that because they maintain shape and it doesn't look weird or anything. I'll post pics of my 46s later.
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Yeah please do cheers man
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Here they are, started at 51 and now 46. Still skateable but, but they were looking wild on some of the big boy shapes. I set them up at the beginning of April and was skating them consistently through July. I was home from work and skating every day, so it is a testament to how well they hold up.


Wow they hold up so well. Nice one man.

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« Reply #2887 on: October 01, 2020, 10:56:54 AM »
I was actually looking on Amazon the other day and almost bought a digital measuring caliper with the intent of only using it to measure my wheels. It was only $10.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2888 on: October 01, 2020, 10:57:11 AM »
Radial Slims or Conicals in 52mm and 101d? I'm coming from Bones V1, V2 and V3. Something light would be preferred.

If anyone has a set to get rid of hit me up to, thanks!
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« Reply #2889 on: October 01, 2020, 11:20:46 AM »
I was actually looking on Amazon the other day and almost bought a digital measuring caliper with the intent of only using it to measure my wheels. It was only $10.

Almost got a digital as well but decided I just wanted that brass one to throw in my bag and not have to worry about a battery or anything. It was similarly priced.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2890 on: October 01, 2020, 11:32:18 AM »
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I was actually looking on Amazon the other day and almost bought a digital measuring caliper with the intent of only using it to measure my wheels. It was only $10.
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Almost got a digital as well but decided I just wanted that brass one to throw in my bag and not have to worry about a battery or anything. It was similarly priced.
got this one a while back

https://www.amazon.com/Digital-Caliper-Adoric-Calipers-Measuring/dp/B07DFFYCXS/ref=sr_1_4?crid=3E3AO4G7SBSR4&dchild=1&keywords=digital+caliper&qid=1601577091&sprefix=digital+calip%2Caps%2C151&sr=8-4

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2891 on: October 01, 2020, 12:22:41 PM »
I got some new Formula Four classics this week and the color of them look different than the normal almost dark tan color they usually are. These are closer to an off-white, eggshell color.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2892 on: October 01, 2020, 12:25:08 PM »
I got some new Formula Four classics this week and the color of them look different than the normal almost dark tan color they usually are. These are closer to an off-white, eggshell color.
I saw a couple left in the vans store in the mall and one looked like coffee and the other looked almost white in comparison - both f4s in 99a too. It kinda makes me appreciate getting a really light colored set.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2893 on: October 01, 2020, 01:48:26 PM »
Radial Slims or Conicals in 52mm and 101d? I'm coming from Bones V1, V2 and V3. Something light would be preferred.

If anyone has a set to get rid of hit me up to, thanks!

Radial Slims or Tablets.

V1 is a wider V3 (and vice versa) V1 is closer to a spit classic (but not as round or wide).

Radial slims = V2s shape-wise but V2 are thinner

Tablets are also similar to Vs just more strait cut/smaller lip

Radial Slims are the widest spits I'll touch.

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« Reply #2894 on: October 04, 2020, 12:43:08 AM »
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I got some new Formula Four classics this week and the color of them look different than the normal almost dark tan color they usually are. These are closer to an off-white, eggshell color.
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I saw a couple left in the vans store in the mall and one looked like coffee and the other looked almost white in comparison - both f4s in 99a too. It kinda makes me appreciate getting a really light colored set.

my new set of classics 99a is also off white eggshell colored, my last two sets had a darker, more yellowed up tint. they fortunately ride the same. also glad i got the lighter wheels, although spits darken more nicely than bones for example, they yellow into this atomic piss color that is really unappealing. f4s just look like old, but solid wheels.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2895 on: October 20, 2020, 08:16:18 AM »
I remember radial slims 101's sliding really well. Maybe that's cuz of the smaller profile but I think I might get a set of those or normal radials, Lately I've been sizing down my wheel sizes, I used to skate really big wheels only like 58's but right now a 54 feels really big, 53's are comfortable but I wanna try 51 or 50.

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« Reply #2896 on: October 20, 2020, 08:26:43 AM »


Soon, come, please.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2897 on: October 20, 2020, 08:56:14 AM »
Does anyone have a set of radial slims and classics? Want to compare shapes front the side profile to see how much the side rounds out on radial slims which can be hard to see from the stock Google images.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2898 on: October 20, 2020, 09:13:44 AM »
Does anyone have a set of radial slims and classics? Want to compare shapes front the side profile to see how much the side rounds out on radial slims which can be hard to see from the stock Google images.

These are some 54mm Radial Slims I started skating roughly a week ago.


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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2899 on: October 20, 2020, 09:16:07 AM »
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Does anyone have a set of radial slims and classics? Want to compare shapes front the side profile to see how much the side rounds out on radial slims which can be hard to see from the stock Google images.
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These are some 54mm Radial Slims I started skating roughly a week ago.



Thanks for the pic, are the sides rounder, kind of like a bubble effect around the side of the wheel?
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2900 on: October 20, 2020, 09:19:08 AM »
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Does anyone have a set of radial slims and classics? Want to compare shapes front the side profile to see how much the side rounds out on radial slims which can be hard to see from the stock Google images.
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These are some 54mm Radial Slims I started skating roughly a week ago.


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Thanks for the pic, are the sides rounder, kind of like a bubble effect around the side of the wheel?

They definitely have a nice round side profile. They’re not straight cut at all, but still not as rounded as classics so you get more riding surface. I like everything about the shape other than the bearing seats not being very deep in the wheels which leaves the axle nuts and bearings more exposed.


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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2901 on: October 20, 2020, 09:22:19 AM »
I got some new Formula Four classics this week and the color of them look different than the normal almost dark tan color they usually are. These are closer to an off-white, eggshell color.
That's interesting. I bought some as well. Conicals, 99a. Raised lettering, pale nimbus white.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2902 on: October 20, 2020, 01:55:21 PM »
Does anyone have a set of radial slims and classics? Want to compare shapes front the side profile to see how much the side rounds out on radial slims which can be hard to see from the stock Google images.
I actually have a set of classics on deck and and pair of radial slims but I have skated them for a few months so I don’t know if that’s the best but if you want I’ll take a picture of both on Thursday when I skate

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2903 on: October 20, 2020, 07:41:51 PM »
Does anyone have a set of radial slims and classics? Want to compare shapes front the side profile to see how much the side rounds out on radial slims which can be hard to see from the stock Google images.

When I look at this on the desktop computer screen with the bigger pics and specs of the wheels including classic and radial slim, you get a good indication, but it might not look so good on a small phone screen.

https://www.basementskate.com.au/blog/2019/07/30/spitfire-wheel-shapes-explained/

Specifically these two pics:

https://www.basementskate.com.au/blog/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Screen-Shot-2019-07-30-at-10.46.45-am.png

https://www.basementskate.com.au/blog/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Screen-Shot-2019-07-30-at-10.47.37-am.png

This is a trimmed down and blown up side shot, which might also show well enough.

Radial size 54mm x 31 wide x 19.5 riding surface / 52mm x 30 wide x 18.5 riding surface

Classic size 54mm x 33.5 wide x 16.5 riding surface / 52mm x 32 wide x 15.5 riding surface

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2904 on: October 20, 2020, 09:14:53 PM »
Does anyone have a set of radial slims and classics? Want to compare shapes front the side profile to see how much the side rounds out on radial slims which can be hard to see from the stock Google images.

Without getting down to deciphering CAD pics (not a dis, appreciate the effort), the classics are like like golf balls compared to radial slims...let alone tablets (just a straight cut radial slim)...cannot see why the shape is useful or preferred really, other than being classically marketable as they have superior shapes/choices for different types of skating (arguably just more marketing.."Lock-Ins" "Radials" "Classic-Full/Slim"); they are called classics for a reason.

Both 52mm.



Personally, I'd like to see the classic slim make a come-back in 101.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2905 on: October 20, 2020, 09:18:41 PM »


Soon, come, please.

I was hoping for the OG classic shape in F4 97a. Anyone know if that’s still in the cards?

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2906 on: October 20, 2020, 09:19:50 PM »
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Soon, come, please.
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I was hoping for the OG classic shape in F4 97a. Anyone know if that’s still in the cards?

I hope so, better shape IMO.

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« Reply #2907 on: October 20, 2020, 10:17:49 PM »
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Does anyone have a set of radial slims and classics? Want to compare shapes front the side profile to see how much the side rounds out on radial slims which can be hard to see from the stock Google images.
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These are some 54mm Radial Slims I started skating roughly a week ago.


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Thanks for the pic, are the sides rounder, kind of like a bubble effect around the side of the wheel?
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They definitely have a nice round side profile. They’re not straight cut at all, but still not as rounded as classics so you get more riding surface. I like everything about the shape other than the bearing seats not being very deep in the wheels which leaves the axle nuts and bearings more exposed.



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Does anyone have a set of radial slims and classics? Want to compare shapes front the side profile to see how much the side rounds out on radial slims which can be hard to see from the stock Google images.
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Without getting down to deciphering CAD pics (not a dis, appreciate the effort), the classics are like like golf balls compared to radial slims...let alone tablets (just a straight cut radial slim)...cannot see why the shape is useful or preferred really, other than being classically marketable as they have superior shapes/choices for different types of skating (arguably just more marketing.."Lock-Ins" "Radials" "Classic-Full/Slim"); they are called classics for a reason.

Both 52mm.



Personally, I'd like to see the classic slim make a come-back in 101.



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Does anyone have a set of radial slims and classics? Want to compare shapes front the side profile to see how much the side rounds out on radial slims which can be hard to see from the stock Google images.
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When I look at this on the desktop computer screen with the bigger pics and specs of the wheels including classic and radial slim, you get a good indication, but it might not look so good on a small phone screen.

https://www.basementskate.com.au/blog/2019/07/30/spitfire-wheel-shapes-explained/

Specifically these two pics:

https://www.basementskate.com.au/blog/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Screen-Shot-2019-07-30-at-10.46.45-am.png

https://www.basementskate.com.au/blog/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Screen-Shot-2019-07-30-at-10.47.37-am.png

This is a trimmed down and blown up side shot, which might also show well enough.

Radial size 54mm x 31 wide x 19.5 riding surface / 52mm x 30 wide x 18.5 riding surface

Classic size 54mm x 33.5 wide x 16.5 riding surface / 52mm x 32 wide x 15.5 riding surface


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Does anyone have a set of radial slims and classics? Want to compare shapes front the side profile to see how much the side rounds out on radial slims which can be hard to see from the stock Google images.
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I actually have a set of classics on deck and and pair of radial slims but I have skated them for a few months so I don’t know if that’s the best but if you want I’ll take a picture of both on Thursday when I skate

Appreciate the pics everyone, I have a set of Classics and Tablets (currently setup). China has started to make counterfeit Radial Slims (Speed Kills 54mm 101a, Yellow / Green graphic) and they are improving the color of their formula to match the yellow of Spitfires. Their first batch of Radial Slims (F4 101a, Venomous) were conical shaped and a dead giveaway for their in-authenticity.

I was planning on buying a set of counterfeit Radial Slims to test them out. Didn't have a set on hand to compare shapes of the genuine versus counterfeits hence the request for pics.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2908 on: October 21, 2020, 07:10:38 AM »

Without getting down to deciphering CAD pics (not a dis, appreciate the effort), the classics are like like golf balls compared to radial slims...let alone tablets (just a straight cut radial slim)...cannot see why the shape is useful or preferred really, other than being classically marketable as they have superior shapes/choices for different types of skating (arguably just more marketing.."Lock-Ins" "Radials" "Classic-Full/Slim"); they are called classics for a reason.

Both 52mm.

Personally, I'd like to see the classic slim make a come-back in 101.

Classics = yes totally!

Funny thing is I like the feel of my worn down F4 classics more than any other current shape, so they would be almost a cross between classic full (bighead shape) and radials, but that is just me.

I also get older almost dead wheels from people I know who ride bigger sizes, then use an angle grinder on the sides to get them back to a nice shape.  This might sound weird or crazy but it works really well.

You could do that to your classics to slim them down a bit too.


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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #2909 on: October 21, 2020, 10:28:29 AM »
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Without getting down to deciphering CAD pics (not a dis, appreciate the effort), the classics are like like golf balls compared to radial slims...let alone tablets (just a straight cut radial slim)...cannot see why the shape is useful or preferred really, other than being classically marketable as they have superior shapes/choices for different types of skating (arguably just more marketing.."Lock-Ins" "Radials" "Classic-Full/Slim"); they are called classics for a reason.

Both 52mm.

Personally, I'd like to see the classic slim make a come-back in 101.
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Classics = yes totally!

Funny thing is I like the feel of my worn down F4 classics more than any other current shape, so they would be almost a cross between classic full (bighead shape) and radials, but that is just me.

I also get older almost dead wheels from people I know who ride bigger sizes, then use an angle grinder on the sides to get them back to a nice shape.  This might sound weird or crazy but it works really well.

You could do that to your classics to slim them down a bit too.




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