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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4500 on: November 15, 2022, 07:18:25 AM »
As to the colour, a lot of the newer Formula Four Spitfire wheels have been a lot less natural in colour and a lot more pale, almost white, so I think they should be fine - they are brand new wheels and freshly poured is always going to be a bit lighter in colour than something that is months old, especially comparing some I have here that were pre pandemic, to more recent to freshest wheels just out.

This. Just copped some lock-ins to try out and they seemed significantly lighter than my other various sets of F4s.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4501 on: November 15, 2022, 09:28:08 AM »
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Are there any fake Lock-Ins in circulation or is that just Conical Fulls?  I've seen a cheap set on ebay but they look more white rather than natural. 
Is there anything that will give them away as fakes just from looking at them?
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At last check, I think there were really only still a few sets / options in the fake ones, Conical Full in blue graphic 99 and red graphic 101 around 52 to 54, along with some other older versions that are mismatched, eg Conical or Radial graphic on a Classic wheel and similar, as well as all those Radial Slims.

As to the colour, a lot of the newer Formula Four Spitfire wheels have been a lot less natural in colour and a lot more pale, almost white, so I think they should be fine - they are brand new wheels and freshly poured is always going to be a bit lighter in colour than something that is months old, especially comparing some I have here that were pre pandemic, to more recent to freshest wheels just out.

Thanks mate. Yeah most fake listings seem to use the same stock photos which is a giveaway. These ones have been skated a bit and look ok. I'm recently back into skating after a long break and now do remember wheels discolouring after a while.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4502 on: November 15, 2022, 12:06:40 PM »
Is there a Big size difference between 56 conical fulls and reg conicals? Got the fulls on sale but theyre soo wide n heavy. Dummy thick.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4503 on: November 15, 2022, 11:04:11 PM »
Is there a Big size difference between 56 conical fulls and reg conicals? Got the fulls on sale but theyre soo wide n heavy. Dummy thick.

There is yeah. It seems to go up exponentially as you size up in the conical fulls.

For example, 51 conicals have 31mm width and 19mm riding surface whereas 51 conical full have 32mm width and 20.8mm riding surface. Not a huge difference.

Scale that up to the big boy sizes and its 33mm width and 20.5mm surface on 56 conical vs 36mm width and 25mm surface for the 56mm conical fulls.

I'm currently riding 56mm conical fulls in 99 duro and they feel great on the crusty 27-year-old weathered Canadian PNW park I try to skate daily. I also just figured out I'm skating 159's on a 8.375 board with these big ass wheels and they have given me no problems on my 2-3 flatground flip tricks but your mileage may vary. I can't 360 flip so can't vouch for scoopy flip tricks but they feel fine to flip, and 180 flip to keep things simple.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4504 on: November 16, 2022, 07:13:40 AM »
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56mm 99a F4 Classics are the best wheel.

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The riding surface/width to diameter ratio changes greatly at 56mm on the classics. That's why I like them. I've ridden them in NYC, Baltimore, Philly, and RVA just fine. Would say DC too, but it's pretty smooth there.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4505 on: November 16, 2022, 08:20:15 AM »
id love to see a radial full in 52-53. 

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4506 on: November 16, 2022, 08:32:46 AM »
Is there a Big size difference between 56 conical fulls and reg conicals? Got the fulls on sale but theyre soo wide n heavy. Dummy thick.

My 54 fulls vs regular conicals also feel way bigger and more difficult to get on/off coping on grinds.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4507 on: November 16, 2022, 09:00:28 AM »
The wheel i keep coming back to are my 52mm conicals. I kept think radials were going to do it for me but they just end up feeling sort of big and clunky.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4508 on: November 16, 2022, 09:07:18 AM »
The wheel i keep coming back to are my 52mm conicals. I kept think radials were going to do it for me but they just end up feeling sort of big and clunky.

I haven’t tried regular conicals.
I skate classics the most, 52s.
I have some 52 conical fulls, 101s that I really like.
I’ll try the regular conicals next.
I don’t like a wheel larger than 52, for anything other than rolling.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4509 on: November 16, 2022, 09:55:05 AM »
The wheel i keep coming back to are my 52mm conicals. I kept think radials were going to do it for me but they just end up feeling sort of big and clunky.

I was rolling on the 52mm conicals for almost a year, then recently tried the 53mm Lock Ins. The Lock Ins were pretty good for some crusty spots here in the suburbs of East Berlin, but they can feel also pretty clunky sometimes.
I am curious about the 54mm conicals now, but the specs are very similar to the 53mm Lock Ins so I am hesitant to try them. Back on the 52mm Conicals which are 50mm now and I hope to roll around a bit on sunday.

Anyone have opinions on the 54mm 99a Conicals?

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4510 on: November 16, 2022, 10:43:03 AM »
man i think radials look really gross but they must work way better than fat wheels. if you think about it there should be way less drag and resistance. i wonder maybe they dont last as long though or maybe that doesnt even matter because the fat wheel is still touching the floor the entire time anyway.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4511 on: November 16, 2022, 11:09:18 AM »
Radials are pretty sick, just a bit clunky for my taste.
But I think they would be awesome in 50mm.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4512 on: November 16, 2022, 11:33:41 AM »
Radials are pretty sick, just a bit clunky for my taste.
But I think they would be awesome in 50mm.

I like low trucks, and as such, skate 52s (or smaller), some wide ones in these sizes would be fun to try, but I feel like that would be a really small niche.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4513 on: November 17, 2022, 07:51:42 AM »
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The wheel i keep coming back to are my 52mm conicals. I kept think radials were going to do it for me but they just end up feeling sort of big and clunky.
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I was rolling on the 52mm conicals for almost a year, then recently tried the 53mm Lock Ins. The Lock Ins were pretty good for some crusty spots here in the suburbs of East Berlin, but they can feel also pretty clunky sometimes.
I am curious about the 54mm conicals now, but the specs are very similar to the 53mm Lock Ins so I am hesitant to try them. Back on the 52mm Conicals which are 50mm now and I hope to roll around a bit on sunday.

Anyone have opinions on the 54mm 99a Conicals?

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Skating 54mm 99a conical now. I love them. I was sharing 55mm classics but I think I prefer the conical shape for street. Classics was nice for coping. But just barely nicer on coping.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4514 on: November 17, 2022, 11:24:48 AM »
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The wheel i keep coming back to are my 52mm conicals. I kept think radials were going to do it for me but they just end up feeling sort of big and clunky.
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I was rolling on the 52mm conicals for almost a year, then recently tried the 53mm Lock Ins. The Lock Ins were pretty good for some crusty spots here in the suburbs of East Berlin, but they can feel also pretty clunky sometimes.
I am curious about the 54mm conicals now, but the specs are very similar to the 53mm Lock Ins so I am hesitant to try them. Back on the 52mm Conicals which are 50mm now and I hope to roll around a bit on sunday.

Anyone have opinions on the 54mm 99a Conicals?
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Skating 54mm 99a conical now. I love them. I was sharing 55mm classics but I think I prefer the conical shape for street. Classics was nice for coping. But just barely nicer on coping.

I'm on 54 conicals for small tranny. 58 classic F4 on big tranny. Love the smaller conicals for tranny and on/off coping.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4515 on: December 06, 2022, 06:06:47 PM »

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4516 on: December 07, 2022, 12:17:13 AM »
Radials are pretty sick, just a bit clunky for my taste.
But I think they would be awesome in 50mm.

spitfire just re issued the “lil smokies” wheel in a conical and conical full I believe. 48mm,49mm and 50mm
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4517 on: December 07, 2022, 02:03:25 AM »
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Radials are pretty sick, just a bit clunky for my taste.
But I think they would be awesome in 50mm.
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spitfire just re issued the “lil smokies” wheel in a conical and conical full I believe. 48mm,49mm and 50mm

A great wheel, I had the 48s (not sure which format). However, they wore down rather quickly to 44 so I had to ditch them because it became increasingly difficult to skate slightly crustier spots. I still have them on a spare set up tho, for those 90s vibes.

Conical fulls should be good for crust even at a small size, right?
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4518 on: December 07, 2022, 09:36:29 AM »
Yo what?! 50mm conical fulls? That sounds great. Thanks for the heads up.

* I currently have some 50mm classics on Indy 159s and that looks a bit ridiculous ^^

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4519 on: December 07, 2022, 10:07:32 AM »
I’ve only seen smokies conicals, not fulls (but would be interested). I used to run the Anderson SFWs in 50mm, those were one of my favorite wheels before F4

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4520 on: December 07, 2022, 03:46:04 PM »
I’ve only seen smokies conicals, not fulls (but would be interested). I used to run the Anderson SFWs in 50mm, those were one of my favorite wheels before F4


The Lil Smokies are just scaled down versions, so the Conical Full wheel is still small, but not quite as narrow as others in that 50mm size.  Definitely a good proportion of width and shape.


They looked a bit scary in the bigger 56mm size, which is what I ususally bought at the time in "Bighead" / Classic Full shape.  The funny thing is I just picked up another set of the 55mm slightly used from a friend recently, which are good for bigger stuff.

The smaller versions of the SFW are so much better for everything / more fun overall though.

This is a good one to show all the sizes, although "Conical Full" name came later it was the same shape they use now.




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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4521 on: December 08, 2022, 09:10:03 AM »

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4522 on: December 08, 2022, 10:01:47 AM »
Yo what?! 50mm conical fulls? That sounds great. Thanks for the heads up.

* I currently have some 50mm classics on Indy 159s and that looks a bit ridiculous ^^

I wanted some early 90s energy on my Huffer, and I had a set of 50mm Classics, but I hear you on the tiny Classics looking funny on wide trucks, so I just snagged the 50mm/101A Conical Fulls. Here’s the look with AF1 60s.


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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4523 on: December 08, 2022, 10:14:53 AM »
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Yo what?! 50mm conical fulls? That sounds great. Thanks for the heads up.

* I currently have some 50mm classics on Indy 159s and that looks a bit ridiculous ^^
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I wanted some early 90s energy on my Huffer, and I had a set of 50mm Classics, but I hear you on the tiny Classics looking funny on wide trucks, so I just snagged the 50mm/101A Conical Fulls. Here’s the look with AF1 60s.

i dont think it looks ridiculous on 8.75 axles
starts getting weird in the 169 range imo
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4524 on: December 08, 2022, 10:29:36 AM »
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Yo what?! 50mm conical fulls? That sounds great. Thanks for the heads up.

* I currently have some 50mm classics on Indy 159s and that looks a bit ridiculous ^^
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I wanted some early 90s energy on my Huffer, and I had a set of 50mm Classics, but I hear you on the tiny Classics looking funny on wide trucks, so I just snagged the 50mm/101A Conical Fulls. Here’s the look with AF1 60s.


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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4525 on: December 08, 2022, 10:41:03 AM »
i've been on the hunt for some lil smokies for a while now but no success yet. hope a batch hits europe soon.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4526 on: December 08, 2022, 11:06:02 AM »
As the width of the wheel isn't thinner due to it's size as they're just shaved down defects, just nab some 51mm spits? That's the path I went.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4527 on: December 08, 2022, 12:29:04 PM »
As the width of the wheel isn't thinner due to it's size as they're just shaved down defects, just nab some 51mm spits? That's the path I went.

but they're allmost 20 bucks cheaper.
also kinda dont think i can run them fulltime. the crust is real out here.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4528 on: December 08, 2022, 12:43:53 PM »
holiday 22 is up

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I'm kind of bummed there's nothing bigger than 58mm, but there are nice options at that size. I am on some 60mm F4 classics right now and I feel like I've been my most comfortable on the board as of recent.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4529 on: December 08, 2022, 01:04:31 PM »
Did the stop making og classics? I had some more 58s on deck but I ended up setting them up. I really was loving them.