Wheels Thread

[yourbreakfsat]

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Meant to post yesterday, but be wary of NFG MFG rn. You may be getting smaller wheels than the ones you bought.

I ordered 56mm Vee shape Production Seconds and they ended up being an average of 54.5mm. One of the wheels also had two fat grooves that deformed the riding surface.

I don't know if the grooves are only found in the Production Seconds (as this is more than a cosmetic defect) but from emailing NFG and speaking to a friend that rides a lot of NFG, the wrong wheel sizing is consistent along all the wheels.

I don't mean to shit on NFG MFG since the wheels they put out are REALLY great, but I wish they were more transparent about this on their website as there's no mention of this problem. I'm still riding the wheels and they're great (especially for the price if you don't mind an ugly wheel). I hope they manage to fix this issue soon.

Until then, I'd personally buy one size bigger than the one you want (ie if you want 56mm, buy 58mm), or bug your local and measure them in person :v

Side note: buy calipers if you want to enter a whole new level of gear madness.

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I have some other brand wheels that had issues to look at but still skated fine.

There was also a set or too I messed up with the angle grinder when I was reshaping them down, but they also skated fine and if I didn't think about it, there was nothing to worry about, but they look all kinds of messed up.

Set them up and skate them and let people know, cause for a "second" wheel, at a good price, they might be worth it, or they might not.

Yeah currently skating them as said in my previous post, so far no problems and the performance is really good although it's only been one 3 hour session at the time of this post. I figured people would want to know about this issue since I know some people take details like that extremely seriously. Also I really did want 56mm wheels instead of 54mm :v (not a big issue)

[Xen]

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i wish there was a wheel more slippery then stf 104a..

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i felt f4 101a's were more slippery than the spf 104s and stf 103s

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To confuse matters further, I feel that my F4 99’s are more slippery than my F4 101’s

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you aren't the only one. and a lot of people say stf's are more slippery than spf's. who knows...

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mght as well go with stf 99a for street then...

too broke for f4 its like 60cad for a set

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Oddly enough, the 99a Stfs I’ve had are pretty grippy and don’t slide very well. At least the newer ones. When they first came out the white ones slid comparably to f4 but the natural color ones after those seem drastically different

It's true, the white EZ streets slide waaaaaay better than the current natural colored 99a STFs (previously dirty birds?). You can still get the white EZs but it's old stock and usually 54mm+

[Sundaynuggets]

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https://www.hazardwheels.com/

i wish there was a wheel more slippery then stf 104a..

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i felt f4 101a's were more slippery than the spf 104s and stf 103s

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To confuse matters further, I feel that my F4 99’s are more slippery than my F4 101’s

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you aren't the only one. and a lot of people say stf's are more slippery than spf's. who knows...

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mght as well go with stf 99a for street then...

too broke for f4 its like 60cad for a set

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Oddly enough, the 99a Stfs I’ve had are pretty grippy and don’t slide very well. At least the newer ones. When they first came out the white ones slid comparably to f4 but the natural color ones after those seem drastically different

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It's true, the white EZ streets slide waaaaaay better than the current natural colored 99a STFs (previously dirty birds?). You can still get the white EZs but it's old stock and usually 54mm+

Haha I’m glad I’m not the only one that noticed. I thought the white ones were pretty comparable to F4 99’s as far as ease and consistency of slide

[Xen]

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https://www.hazardwheels.com/

i wish there was a wheel more slippery then stf 104a..

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i felt f4 101a's were more slippery than the spf 104s and stf 103s

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To confuse matters further, I feel that my F4 99’s are more slippery than my F4 101’s

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you aren't the only one. and a lot of people say stf's are more slippery than spf's. who knows...

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mght as well go with stf 99a for street then...

too broke for f4 its like 60cad for a set

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Oddly enough, the 99a Stfs I’ve had are pretty grippy and don’t slide very well. At least the newer ones. When they first came out the white ones slid comparably to f4 but the natural color ones after those seem drastically different

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It's true, the white EZ streets slide waaaaaay better than the current natural colored 99a STFs (previously dirty birds?). You can still get the white EZs but it's old stock and usually 54mm+

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Haha I’m glad I’m not the only one that noticed. I thought the white ones were pretty comparable to F4 99’s as far as ease and consistency of slide

I've a set of each (well two natural colored 99s, V3 and V3 and one white V1) and put the OG ezs on after the V3s, its crazy how different they feel. I blame on spitfire and bones kowtowing to 'marketing' meaning, using naturals to compete with spits offwhite/natural look.

I like white wheels!

[Frank]

bones for me never stayed white. they usually turn into some weird neon glow greenish piss type yellow tone after mere weeks. i take the beige natural colored wheels over the pissed looking wheels any day. maybe the streets of my city are constantly drenched in a thin urine layer that the bones just pick up really well, who knows.

[sketchyrider]

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https://www.hazardwheels.com/

i wish there was a wheel more slippery then stf 104a..

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i felt f4 101a's were more slippery than the spf 104s and stf 103s

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To confuse matters further, I feel that my F4 99’s are more slippery than my F4 101’s

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you aren't the only one. and a lot of people say stf's are more slippery than spf's. who knows...

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mght as well go with stf 99a for street then...

too broke for f4 its like 60cad for a set

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Oddly enough, the 99a Stfs I’ve had are pretty grippy and don’t slide very well. At least the newer ones. When they first came out the white ones slid comparably to f4 but the natural color ones after those seem drastically different

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It's true, the white EZ streets slide waaaaaay better than the current natural colored 99a STFs (previously dirty birds?). You can still get the white EZs but it's old stock and usually 54mm+

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Haha I’m glad I’m not the only one that noticed. I thought the white ones were pretty comparable to F4 99’s as far as ease and consistency of slide

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I've a set of each (well two natural colored 99s, V3 and V3 and one white V1) and put the OG ezs on after the V3s, its crazy how different they feel. I blame on spitfire and bones kowtowing to 'marketing' meaning, using naturals to compete with spits offwhite/natural look.

I like white wheels!

i bought some 56 fatties in natural after buying some white ones, and i agree, they feel like a different wheel. can't say for sure the white ones slid better, but they did seem to handle crust a little better.

[sammyz]

Took a chance on these darkroom wheels...50mm 99a, and wide...seems like a rounded conical. Held up next to my 53mm classic’s they are wider. Haven’t ridden them yet so will report back results.

[Mbrimson88]

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Meant to post yesterday, but be wary of NFG MFG rn. You may be getting smaller wheels than the ones you bought.

I ordered 56mm Vee shape Production Seconds and they ended up being an average of 54.5mm. One of the wheels also had two fat grooves that deformed the riding surface.

I don't know if the grooves are only found in the Production Seconds (as this is more than a cosmetic defect) but from emailing NFG and speaking to a friend that rides a lot of NFG, the wrong wheel sizing is consistent along all the wheels.

I don't mean to shit on NFG MFG since the wheels they put out are REALLY great, but I wish they were more transparent about this on their website as there's no mention of this problem. I'm still riding the wheels and they're great (especially for the price if you don't mind an ugly wheel). I hope they manage to fix this issue soon.

Until then, I'd personally buy one size bigger than the one you want (ie if you want 56mm, buy 58mm), or bug your local and measure them in person :v

Side note: buy calipers if you want to enter a whole new level of gear madness.

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I have some other brand wheels that had issues to look at but still skated fine.

There was also a set or too I messed up with the angle grinder when I was reshaping them down, but they also skated fine and if I didn't think about it, there was nothing to worry about, but they look all kinds of messed up.

Set them up and skate them and let people know, cause for a "second" wheel, at a good price, they might be worth it, or they might not.

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Yeah currently skating them as said in my previous post, so far no problems and the performance is really good although it's only been one 3 hour session at the time of this post. I figured people would want to know about this issue since I know some people take details like that extremely seriously. Also I really did want 56mm wheels instead of 54mm :v (not a big issue)

Yes I know what you mean.

Often when you ride them, they go ok and then you think it is not a worry, but for some people who constantly think about or over think anything to do with a setup, this would be a deal breaker.

After riding used smaller wheels for a while on some other setups, my normal board with 56mm wheels feels so big and so fast and I think "Why did I start riding smaller wheels at all?" but then I go back to my 2ft high shed ramp, or skating carparks and then remember smaller wheels have their place too.

[Xen]

Took a chance on these darkroom wheels...50mm 99a, and wide...seems like a rounded conical. Held up next to my 53mm classic’s they are wider. Haven’t ridden them yet so will report back results.

I've got a set of 50mm triclops, they are your typical mearthane/creative feeling 99a.

[sammyz]

Does that mean good, bad or meh?

[FUBAR]

I want to try a set of those 50mm Triclops...looking to try a wider wheel.

[Bugsytootsie]

Spitfire finally released the 97a formula in a wider size. Thinking bout scooping up a pair.

Anybody have any luck with the classic ones since the release?

[Sundaynuggets]

Spitfire finally released the 97a formula in a wider size. Thinking bout scooping up a pair.

Anybody have any luck with the classic ones since the release?

I have 97a classics and they are great. Take a little of the edge off the crust, slide really nice and consistent. Can’t say enough good stuff about them

[jay_nev]

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Spitfire finally released the 97a formula in a wider size. Thinking bout scooping up a pair.

Anybody have any luck with the classic ones since the release?

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I have 97a classics and they are great. Take a little of the edge off the crust, slide really nice and consistent. Can’t say enough good stuff about them

yeah I like em too. Even slipped out of a power slide yesterday downhill and slammed my knee bc they slid so well. I pushed a little too hard into the slide

[Sundaynuggets]

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Spitfire finally released the 97a formula in a wider size. Thinking bout scooping up a pair.

Anybody have any luck with the classic ones since the release?

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I have 97a classics and they are great. Take a little of the edge off the crust, slide really nice and consistent. Can’t say enough good stuff about them

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yeah I like em too. Even slipped out of a power slide yesterday downhill and slammed my knee bc they slid so well. I pushed a little too hard into the slide

I’m curious how soft they could go with their duro and still keep a reasonable slide because the 97s slide better (more consistently, less jerky) than a lot of 99 and 101 wheels from other brands I’ve tried

[RichardBarkley]

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Spitfire finally released the 97a formula in a wider size. Thinking bout scooping up a pair.

Anybody have any luck with the classic ones since the release?

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I have 97a classics and they are great. Take a little of the edge off the crust, slide really nice and consistent. Can’t say enough good stuff about them

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yeah I like em too. Even slipped out of a power slide yesterday downhill and slammed my knee bc they slid so well. I pushed a little too hard into the slide

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I’m curious how soft they could go with their duro and still keep a reasonable slide because the 97s slide better (more consistently, less jerky) than a lot of 99 and 101 wheels from other brands I’ve tried

I love mine too. They are my wheel for life.

In saying that .... Yeah.... I mean I'd try a 95 f4 if they made it.

[mj23]

Has anyone tried 95a OJ elite nomads? Curious how they would compare with a 97 spit f4.

[Frank and Fred]

Has anyone tried 95a OJ elite nomads? Curious how they would compare with a 97 spit f4.

I have tried both. I had the 54mm nomads and the 56mm Classic spitfires. Both perform as advertised. The OJs def feel a little softer but slide just as well as the Spitfires. Speed seems about the same. Both are great for crusty spots or super slippery spots. They really are both a great 'compromise' between cruiser wheels and regular street/ park wheels.  And both are pretty durable but do wear quicker than their harder counter-parts. I could not flat spot or chip either one and I have tried to destroy them both.

If you are used to 99a to 101a wheels you will notice they are slower and do take a bit more effort to get sliding.

You can't go wrong with either one. I back them both for shitty ground, curb thrashing or for a  little extra bite on super slick ground.  I personally prefer the Spitfire as I normally ride F4s and they feel more familiar. I'll stick with 99a F4s for general purposes but I think I'll always have some 97s on hand for shitty spots and winter weather motivators.

I keep meaning to spend a day on some steep hills on both b/c i think they'd be great for controlled power slides at speed.

[Xen]

Does that mean good, bad or meh?

They're meh/no F4 or STF

[Mbrimson88]

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Does that mean good, bad or meh?

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They're meh/no F4 or STF

After trying out a dozen different brands of wheels last month in a place that had a few different surfaces (road, concrete and wooden ramp) I was amazed at the performance differences of most of the wheels I had, pretty much all the big brands and yeah the only two I considered actually skated well were Spitfire and then Bones, with the OJs elite (USA) formula in third, but that was just our take on them - a few of us all skated them to see what they were like on all three surfaces - but it definitely makes me happy I am riding Spitfire wheels.

That is not to say that all those other wheels were bad, as I know some people like different qualities they have, but coming from Spitfires, nothing else really held up the same and a couple of sets were accidently flatspotted without even trying to smash them, which says a lot.

[Xen]

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Does that mean good, bad or meh?

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They're meh/no F4 or STF

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After trying out a dozen different brands of wheels last month in a place that had a few different surfaces (road, concrete and wooden ramp) I was amazed at the performance differences of most of the wheels I had, pretty much all the big brands and yeah the only two I considered actually skated well were Spitfire and then Bones, with the OJs elite (USA) formula in third, but that was just our take on them - a few of us all skated them to see what they were like on all three surfaces - but it definitely makes me happy I am riding Spitfire wheels.

That is not to say that all those other wheels were bad, as I know some people like different qualities they have, but coming from Spitfires, nothing else really held up the same and a couple of sets were accidently flatspotted without even trying to smash them, which says a lot.

The OJ Elites are underrated for sure (as are Ricta, the super slims I have are great, hard and haven't flatspotted yet). You just can't compete with the big three and OJs are only still a thing because of the name legacy and marketing.

It's surprising that Ricta naturals had a such a following back in the day and they just let that fade away..thing is unless you have your own formula (bones, spit) and brand recognition+marketing dollars, it's hard to break in and dominate...sml, wayward, autobahn, satori, hubba, ghetto child...list goes on and on.

And, really all you need is bones or spit depending on what you skate and how you want it to feel. It's the same with trucks...there is really only two camps right now: turny or or less turny but more stable and if it were only Indy or Thunder as your two choices, the world would move on...

[sammyz]

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Does that mean good, bad or meh?

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They're meh/no F4 or STF

Ok...really I got these for the size...I wanna try small conical shape to see if I like it or if it makes any difference in my skating.

[Sativa Lung]

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Does that mean good, bad or meh?

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They're meh/no F4 or STF

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Ok...really I got these for the size...I wanna try small conical shape to see if I like it or if it makes any difference in my skating.

For all y'all that are looking into the small and fat shapes, boardy cakes has a really awesome one called "benchwarmers". They're 48.5mm 99a (creative urethane so not quite f4 but still very good) and fat as fuck. They remind me of the old bones fireballs except maybe a bit wider. The width and CU 99a formula makes them surprisingly capable over rough ground and pebbles and since they're so small you don't have to worry about wheelbite even with low trucks. I've even used them to do some weird setups like 8.4/8.5 decks with loose 8.38 mini logos. I never really got used to skating a wider board that's so low to the ground and twitchy feeling but it's fun to try new stuff and I might revisit the concept at some point in the future.

Don't have a Pic of just the wheels on my phone but here they are on a Watson laminates Foundation deck that's listed as 8.25 but measures closer to 8.38 with 5.5 ATG mag lights

[sketchyrider]

interesting to hear some honest reviews of other wheel companies, it doesn't surprise me that spit and bones are top dogs with ricta/OJ close behind. if nothing else, ricta and OJ make great cruiser wheels, plus OJ has the 95a options.

curious how ricta/OJ "feel" in comparison to bones and spit. with bones feeling a little plastic, and spits feeling kinda rubbery. a lot of people use the word "chalky", wonder if that's accurate.

[Sundaynuggets]

interesting to hear some honest reviews of other wheel companies, it doesn't surprise me that spit and bones are top dogs with ricta/OJ close behind. if nothing else, ricta and OJ make great cruiser wheels, plus OJ has the 95a options.

curious how ricta/OJ "feel" in comparison to bones and spit. with bones feeling a little plastic, and spits feeling kinda rubbery. a lot of people use the word "chalky", wonder if that's accurate.

Good point about the cruiser wheels. Ricta and Oj soft wheels have performed much better for me than their Spitfire and Bones counterparts, especially in areas of quality control.

[GardenSkater77]

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Spitfire finally released the 97a formula in a wider size. Thinking bout scooping up a pair.

Anybody have any luck with the classic ones since the release?

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I have 97a classics and they are great. Take a little of the edge off the crust, slide really nice and consistent. Can’t say enough good stuff about them

Why they wouldn’t start with conical wide 54-58 is beyond me. This wheel should be the slimeball killer. The slimeballs of today are just not like the one’s of the 80’s. I have too many wheels now but 97a conical wide 56mm sounds real good...

[mj23]

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Spitfire finally released the 97a formula in a wider size. Thinking bout scooping up a pair.

Anybody have any luck with the classic ones since the release?

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I have 97a classics and they are great. Take a little of the edge off the crust, slide really nice and consistent. Can’t say enough good stuff about them

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Why they wouldn’t start with conical wide 54-58 is beyond me. This wheel should be the slimeball killer. The slimeballs of today are just not like the one’s of the 80’s. I have too many wheels now but 97a conical wide 56mm sounds real good...

they have some 56 conical full 97s at zumiez right now, only place i have seen them so far. might cop a pair, although i'll probably wait until i can get them from someone else.

https://www.zumiez.com/spitfire-formula-four-conical-full-56mm-97a-teal-natural-skateboard-wheels.html?utm_source=google_shopping&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=1101153&utm_campaign=google_shopping&gclid=Cj0KCQjwmIuDBhDXARIsAFITC_61WBxf7yLm4QoBpUANjRYzKInikUChbZjDjpC0jdH-9-O63DT4Y2saAvKzEALw_wcB

[lucascbn]

hardgood got way too expensive where I live and Im pondering on what wheels to buy.
Love the feel of spitfires classics and F4s, but its costing double the price in here, so if anybody can give any insight on the following possibilities below I'd be very grateful:

- Ojs - regular and conicals
- Bones 100s - v5
- Bones STF - v2
- Pig Wheels Conicals
- Emex Wheels - 102a (probably the worst option).

Any opinion is welcomed, thx

[Easy Slider]

hardgood got way too expensive where I live and Im pondering on what wheels to buy.
Love the feel of spitfires classics and F4s, but its costing double the price in here, so if anybody can give any insight on the following possibilities below I'd be very grateful:

- Ojs - regular and conicals
- Bones 100s - v5
- Bones STF - v2
- Pig Wheels Conicals
- Emex Wheels - 102a (probably the worst option).

Any opinion is welcomed, thx

I‘m running Bones 100s. Coming from Spitfires they felt hella plasticky at first but I got used to them after a few sessions to the point that it doesn‘t bother me. I ride mostly skreets/schoolyards and they are fine but I live in Switzerland where the concrete tends to be rather good quality. I have skated crustier spots too but you might want softer wheels for those. I think they don‘t slide well but maybe it‘s just me who is too bad at sliding. I skate twice a week for ca. 1 hour and in almost one year I rode them down from 52mm to just under 50mm. Hope that helps.

[lucascbn]

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hardgood got way too expensive where I live and Im pondering on what wheels to buy.
Love the feel of spitfires classics and F4s, but its costing double the price in here, so if anybody can give any insight on the following possibilities below I'd be very grateful:

- Ojs - regular and conicals
- Bones 100s - v5
- Bones STF - v2
- Pig Wheels Conicals
- Emex Wheels - 102a (probably the worst option).

Any opinion is welcomed, thx

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I‘m running Bones 100s. Coming from Spitfires they felt hella plasticky at first but I got used to them after a few sessions to the point that it doesn‘t bother me. I ride mostly skreets/schoolyards and they are fine but I live in Switzerland where the concrete tends to be rather good quality. I have skated crustier spots too but you might want softer wheels for those. I think they don‘t slide well but maybe it‘s just me who is too bad at sliding. I skate twice a week for ca. 1 hour and in almost one year I rode them down from 52mm to just under 50mm. Hope that helps.

That for sure helps, man! Thank you for the info