Wheels Thread

[Richard Skidder]

I got wheel madness. Been  happy skating 55mm spit classics. Now about  54. Slipped out on a grind hurt my hip a few weeks ago. Since i slipped out I put conical regs on. Flip tricks take more effort and my kickflips/ barrel rolls are suffering. And things just don’t flip as easily. But feel secure in locking in. Little more work to get off coping and grinds but feels good when I’m in. Is there an in between shape that locks in like a conical and feels good for flip tricks like a classic? I got a set of 53 and 54 radials but they are 101. I’m debating on doing a side cut at work in the classics to make them like a bones v5

Lock-ins have that rounded edge on the outer and flat on the inside. Also tablets if you can find them.

[Xen]

Normally I wouldn’t hate on a product that just hit the market without testing it but hasn’t NHS been pushing Rictas with a “dual duro” for years at a more normal price? That price tag is insane and I cannot find any justification in my mind. I doubt they will perform any better than how well dragons have been treating folks who want that softer duro. Fuck, formula fours have been going up in price and moved manufacturing out of the USA but at least they’re worth it.

Ricta speed rings and chrome cores are one duro, just the core gimmick.

57$ for a Niché wheel shape? Pass.

[rikki]

I got wheel madness. Been  happy skating 55mm spit classics. Now about  54. Slipped out on a grind hurt my hip a few weeks ago. Since i slipped out I put conical regs on. Flip tricks take more effort and my kickflips/ barrel rolls are suffering. And things just don’t flip as easily. But feel secure in locking in. Little more work to get off coping and grinds but feels good when I’m in. Is there an in between shape that locks in like a conical and feels good for flip tricks like a classic? I got a set of 53 and 54 radials but they are 101. I’m debating on doing a side cut at work in the classics to make them like a bones v5

Radial 55mm 99s work for great for me as an all-around wheel. So far been happy with the lock in factor. Plus the wheel feels light.

[TheLowerBack]

Do radial fulls only come in 97?

[tom]

Do radial fulls only come in 97?

They occasionally come in 99a, but there probably aren't that many left out there right now

[Big Baby Jesus]

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Has anyone tried those new OJ Dual Durometer wheels?

I'm curious, but then again, this makes me think of the old school Darkstar dual durometers (that everyone rode backwards to show the cores) but then they sucked.

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Or autobahn that has been doing dual duros since their inception, they suck too

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I’ve skated a lot of ricta, and they’ve been mostly good. I use to skate the 103b 53mm David speed rings. Loved that wheel.

I have the 92a ricta clouds on my cruiser. They’re good. I imagine the OJs are just making OJ clouds now.

I’m currently skating SNOT wheels and really enjoying them. I’m pretty sure they’re just purple and teal autobahns

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If I was gonna skate dual duro, it would prolly be the from the NHS camp, I don’t know though, I just remember really fucking hating the autobahns I’ve skated, I’d prolly just stick with a normal wheel and get the Kenny Anderson wheel condom he is currently developing, if I wanted to be able to cruise over shit and still be able to slide the way I want

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Humidity has these up in their webstore now. $57 retail 
https://www.humiditynola.com/product-page/oj-prototype-double-durometer-wheels

Humidity has some of the best product descriptions.

[Mbrimson88]

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Do radial fulls only come in 97?

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They occasionally come in 99a, but there probably aren't that many left out there right now

Yeah I think they are between drops of normal 99s right now.

They first came out with the Kader smoke graphic in the big sizes (all long gone), then Eternals in 56 and 58 mm, of which there are still a few around, but not many.

Currently the 97 duro in 56 and 58 mm in the generic graphic.


Some more in various sizes in 99 coming out later in the year, from someone in the know.

[Buster_Poosey]

I’m planning on trying out the new Double Duro OJ’s just for the hell of it. I don’t expect much, honestly. They’re gonna slide the same as Elite’s. I just wanna see if they actually work.

Also, got a set of Acid wheels for free. Anyone skate them? They look real basic, like nothing special about them. Curious though, because they were free, I will set them up on something so I can use them

I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised with them. They’re hard, got a good bark, they slide, and don’t flatspot easy. This doesn’t really apply to you since you got them for free, but they are the best wheels out at that price, IMO.

[ggrimmedd]

Do yall "bowl/park only riders" use anything besides Bones? I've been using for a week and can't possibly think of anything better than 84b SPFs, perfect lock-in, grip is insane and slides great. Almost pulled Spitfires but that would definitely not be it

[roll_dog]

Do yall "bowl/park only riders" use anything besides Bones? I've been using for a week and can't possibly think of anything better than 84b SPFs, perfect lock-in, grip is insane and slides great. Almost pulled Spitfires but that would definitely not be it

Bones SPFs are without a doubt their greatest wheel. I slapped spitfires on my setup because I wanted to be flexible with the terrain I skate but I think I'm exclusively a park skater now so I may have to go back.

[TwisT]

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Has anyone tried those new OJ Dual Durometer wheels?

I'm curious, but then again, this makes me think of the old school Darkstar dual durometers (that everyone rode backwards to show the cores) but then they sucked.

[close]

Or autobahn that has been doing dual duros since their inception, they suck too

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I’ve skated a lot of ricta, and they’ve been mostly good. I use to skate the 103b 53mm David speed rings. Loved that wheel.

I have the 92a ricta clouds on my cruiser. They’re good. I imagine the OJs are just making OJ clouds now.

I’m currently skating SNOT wheels and really enjoying them. I’m pretty sure they’re just purple and teal autobahns

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If I was gonna skate dual duro, it would prolly be the from the NHS camp, I don’t know though, I just remember really fucking hating the autobahns I’ve skated, I’d prolly just stick with a normal wheel and get the Kenny Anderson wheel condom he is currently developing, if I wanted to be able to cruise over shit and still be able to slide the way I want

[close]

Humidity has these up in their webstore now. $57 retail 
https://www.humiditynola.com/product-page/oj-prototype-double-durometer-wheels

[close]

Humidity has some of the best product descriptions.

OJ "Let me copy your homework"
Ricta "Okay, just change it so it doesn't look like you just copied it"
OJ

[rikki]

Do yall "bowl/park only riders" use anything besides Bones? I've been using for a week and can't possibly think of anything better than 84b SPFs, perfect lock-in, grip is insane and slides great. Almost pulled Spitfires but that would definitely not be it

I really like OJ Hardline 99s in bowls/parks. Fast as fuck and the width is great.

(Edit: SPF 84Bs rule of course, but I've grown to love the Hardlines as well.)

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madness guy on the dual duro OJ's

no noseslides in sight
seem like a better in between than what they have currently like if you ride hot juice they will not last for slappys worth shit... these probably last longer but honestly i dont really see whats better with this than their like 95a or whatever they already offer. maybe its a bit more cruisery?

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The outer duro is 101, 95 inner, so they will slide the same as the other oj 101s. I was curious for a second but not for $57.

Then how soft is OJs 95? Would these feel anything like a cruiser wheel? I haven't ridden their Nomads which are a 95, right?

[goodatmeth]

How are dragon wheels handling wet ground? Slip or grip?

[Xen]

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Has anyone tried those new OJ Dual Durometer wheels?

I'm curious, but then again, this makes me think of the old school Darkstar dual durometers (that everyone rode backwards to show the cores) but then they sucked.

[close]

Or autobahn that has been doing dual duros since their inception, they suck too

[close]

I’ve skated a lot of ricta, and they’ve been mostly good. I use to skate the 103b 53mm David speed rings. Loved that wheel.

I have the 92a ricta clouds on my cruiser. They’re good. I imagine the OJs are just making OJ clouds now.

I’m currently skating SNOT wheels and really enjoying them. I’m pretty sure they’re just purple and teal autobahns

[close]

If I was gonna skate dual duro, it would prolly be the from the NHS camp, I don’t know though, I just remember really fucking hating the autobahns I’ve skated, I’d prolly just stick with a normal wheel and get the Kenny Anderson wheel condom he is currently developing, if I wanted to be able to cruise over shit and still be able to slide the way I want

[close]

Humidity has these up in their webstore now. $57 retail 
https://www.humiditynola.com/product-page/oj-prototype-double-durometer-wheels

[close]

Humidity has some of the best product descriptions.

[close]

OJ "Let me copy your homework"
Ricta "Okay, just change it so it doesn't look like you just copied it"
OJ

Except Ricta aren't dual duro, just cored.

[TwisT]

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Has anyone tried those new OJ Dual Durometer wheels?

I'm curious, but then again, this makes me think of the old school Darkstar dual durometers (that everyone rode backwards to show the cores) but then they sucked.

[close]

Or autobahn that has been doing dual duros since their inception, they suck too

[close]

I’ve skated a lot of ricta, and they’ve been mostly good. I use to skate the 103b 53mm David speed rings. Loved that wheel.

I have the 92a ricta clouds on my cruiser. They’re good. I imagine the OJs are just making OJ clouds now.

I’m currently skating SNOT wheels and really enjoying them. I’m pretty sure they’re just purple and teal autobahns

[close]

If I was gonna skate dual duro, it would prolly be the from the NHS camp, I don’t know though, I just remember really fucking hating the autobahns I’ve skated, I’d prolly just stick with a normal wheel and get the Kenny Anderson wheel condom he is currently developing, if I wanted to be able to cruise over shit and still be able to slide the way I want

[close]

Humidity has these up in their webstore now. $57 retail 
https://www.humiditynola.com/product-page/oj-prototype-double-durometer-wheels

[close]

Humidity has some of the best product descriptions.

[close]

OJ "Let me copy your homework"
Ricta "Okay, just change it so it doesn't look like you just copied it"
OJ

[close]

Except Ricta aren't dual duro, just cored.

how is that not the same thing?
-Not sarcasm.

[bombsaway86]

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madness guy on the dual duro OJ's

no noseslides in sight
seem like a better in between than what they have currently like if you ride hot juice they will not last for slappys worth shit... these probably last longer but honestly i dont really see whats better with this than their like 95a or whatever they already offer. maybe its a bit more cruisery?

[close]

The outer duro is 101, 95 inner, so they will slide the same as the other oj 101s. I was curious for a second but not for $57.

[close]

Then how soft is OJs 95? Would these feel anything like a cruiser wheel? I haven't ridden their Nomads which are a 95, right?

They don’t feel like cruiser wheels. They feel similar to 99a but with more grip and smoother on crust

[goodatmeth]

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Has anyone tried those new OJ Dual Durometer wheels?

I'm curious, but then again, this makes me think of the old school Darkstar dual durometers (that everyone rode backwards to show the cores) but then they sucked.

[close]

Or autobahn that has been doing dual duros since their inception, they suck too

[close]

I’ve skated a lot of ricta, and they’ve been mostly good. I use to skate the 103b 53mm David speed rings. Loved that wheel.

I have the 92a ricta clouds on my cruiser. They’re good. I imagine the OJs are just making OJ clouds now.

I’m currently skating SNOT wheels and really enjoying them. I’m pretty sure they’re just purple and teal autobahns

[close]

If I was gonna skate dual duro, it would prolly be the from the NHS camp, I don’t know though, I just remember really fucking hating the autobahns I’ve skated, I’d prolly just stick with a normal wheel and get the Kenny Anderson wheel condom he is currently developing, if I wanted to be able to cruise over shit and still be able to slide the way I want

[close]

Humidity has these up in their webstore now. $57 retail 
https://www.humiditynola.com/product-page/oj-prototype-double-durometer-wheels

[close]

Humidity has some of the best product descriptions.

[close]

OJ "Let me copy your homework"
Ricta "Okay, just change it so it doesn't look like you just copied it"
OJ

[close]

Except Ricta aren't dual duro, just cored.

[close]

how is that not the same thing?
-Not sarcasm.

It's quite the opposite. Ricta cored: hard inner that keeps the bearings aligned.
Oj dual duro: soft inner that supposedly absorbs impact.

[Xen]

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Has anyone tried those new OJ Dual Durometer wheels?

I'm curious, but then again, this makes me think of the old school Darkstar dual durometers (that everyone rode backwards to show the cores) but then they sucked.

[close]

Or autobahn that has been doing dual duros since their inception, they suck too

[close]

I’ve skated a lot of ricta, and they’ve been mostly good. I use to skate the 103b 53mm David speed rings. Loved that wheel.

I have the 92a ricta clouds on my cruiser. They’re good. I imagine the OJs are just making OJ clouds now.

I’m currently skating SNOT wheels and really enjoying them. I’m pretty sure they’re just purple and teal autobahns

[close]

If I was gonna skate dual duro, it would prolly be the from the NHS camp, I don’t know though, I just remember really fucking hating the autobahns I’ve skated, I’d prolly just stick with a normal wheel and get the Kenny Anderson wheel condom he is currently developing, if I wanted to be able to cruise over shit and still be able to slide the way I want

[close]

Humidity has these up in their webstore now. $57 retail 
https://www.humiditynola.com/product-page/oj-prototype-double-durometer-wheels

[close]

Humidity has some of the best product descriptions.

[close]

OJ "Let me copy your homework"
Ricta "Okay, just change it so it doesn't look like you just copied it"
OJ

[close]

Except Ricta aren't dual duro, just cored.

[close]

how is that not the same thing?
-Not sarcasm.

[close]

It's quite the opposite. Ricta cored: hard inner that keeps the bearings aligned.
Oj dual duro: soft inner that supposedly absorbs impact.

Old Ricta Chrome cores or Powerflex gumballs had the hard inner, which is really just a stiff ass bearing seat. Ricta Speed Rings are even more odd as they have the same durro inner-speed-ring-same duro outer, so essentially just a stiffer bearing seat that is supposedly better at less impact deformation.

Then there's Autobahn AB-X, which would be the closest to the OJs, the Torus had an 83b (outer) /97a (inner Core) - I can't recall what the Autobahn Ultras were, but I think they were the opposite, i.e., hard inner -83b- for stiff bearing seat, with either a 100 or 97a outer (either way they didn't slide for shit).

[Mbrimson88]

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madness guy on the dual duro OJ's

no noseslides in sight
seem like a better in between than what they have currently like if you ride hot juice they will not last for slappys worth shit... these probably last longer but honestly i dont really see whats better with this than their like 95a or whatever they already offer. maybe its a bit more cruisery?

[close]

The outer duro is 101, 95 inner, so they will slide the same as the other oj 101s. I was curious for a second but not for $57.

[close]

Then how soft is OJs 95? Would these feel anything like a cruiser wheel? I haven't ridden their Nomads which are a 95, right?

[close]

They don’t feel like cruiser wheels. They feel similar to 99a but with more grip and smoother on crust

I think I posted this before, but it is easy enough to do again.

As far as overall hardness goes, I usually follow these general rules from wheels I commonly have / had:


78-87A - very soft cruiser wheels
90-92A - soft wheels, but can still bark a bit to slide
95-97A - not quite so hard wheels, but will slide and feel more like hard wheels
99-101A - hard wheels / normal feeling wheels

81-84B - very hard wheels, a bit more so than 101A


A Scale goes to 100, B scale is 20 points lower for the same hardness, eg 100A = 80B


You can also put in there Powell Dragons at 93A being a different feel but still between the 90-92 and the 95-97, but still softer wheels, or some other variations on what might usually fit in between this and that, but have different urethane properties to most other wheels on the market.

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Ok, thanks for the great responses. I'm curious to try the double duros or the dragons. I would love a wheel that feels smooth riding and doesn't make my feet numb when riding rugged ground but still has a decent slide.

[Xen]

Ok, thanks for the great responses. I'm curious to try the double duros or the dragons. I would love a wheel that feels smooth riding and doesn't make my feet numb when riding rugged ground but still has a decent slide.

If you still want to throw out tricks, powerslide, or do tricks that slide (blunts, etc.) go with the Bones X97s over the dragons imo. If you are more a cruiser type skating from point A to B as transpo, go with dragons hands down

I'd give the OJs a shot if they were in the hardline shape, but it feels like they're targetting the re-issue crowd here by going with the mini combo shape (same for dragons at 93a and bigger wheels, tho now in V1).

[rikki]

I don't really get the OJ mini combo shape. I prefer a symmetrical wheel.

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Ok, thanks for the great responses. I'm curious to try the double duros or the dragons. I would love a wheel that feels smooth riding and doesn't make my feet numb when riding rugged ground but still has a decent slide.

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If you still want to throw out tricks, powerslide, or do tricks that slide (blunts, etc.) go with the Bones X97s over the dragons imo. If you are more a cruiser type skating from point A to B as transpo, go with dragons hands down

I'd give the OJs a shot if they were in the hardline shape, but it feels like they're targetting the re-issue crowd here by going with the mini combo shape (same for dragons at 93a and bigger wheels, tho now in V1).

Ok. Then would you recommend Bones 97 over Spitfire 97? I see some Spits on sale atm. I'm more of a cruiser type skater nowadays, just occasionally throw some tricks.

[Texas_Tone]

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Has anyone tried those new OJ Dual Durometer wheels?

I'm curious, but then again, this makes me think of the old school Darkstar dual durometers (that everyone rode backwards to show the cores) but then they sucked.

[close]

Or autobahn that has been doing dual duros since their inception, they suck too

[close]

I’ve skated a lot of ricta, and they’ve been mostly good. I use to skate the 103b 53mm David speed rings. Loved that wheel.

I have the 92a ricta clouds on my cruiser. They’re good. I imagine the OJs are just making OJ clouds now.

I’m currently skating SNOT wheels and really enjoying them. I’m pretty sure they’re just purple and teal autobahns

[close]

If I was gonna skate dual duro, it would prolly be the from the NHS camp, I don’t know though, I just remember really fucking hating the autobahns I’ve skated, I’d prolly just stick with a normal wheel and get the Kenny Anderson wheel condom he is currently developing, if I wanted to be able to cruise over shit and still be able to slide the way I want

[close]

Humidity has these up in their webstore now. $57 retail 
https://www.humiditynola.com/product-page/oj-prototype-double-durometer-wheels

[close]

Humidity has some of the best product descriptions.

[close]

OJ "Let me copy your homework"
Ricta "Okay, just change it so it doesn't look like you just copied it"
OJ

[close]

Except Ricta aren't dual duro, just cored.

[close]

how is that not the same thing?
-Not sarcasm.

[close]

It's quite the opposite. Ricta cored: hard inner that keeps the bearings aligned.
Oj dual duro: soft inner that supposedly absorbs impact.

[close]

Old Ricta Chrome cores or Powerflex gumballs had the hard inner, which is really just a stiff ass bearing seat. Ricta Speed Rings are even more odd as they have the same durro inner-speed-ring-same duro outer, so essentially just a stiffer bearing seat that is supposedly better at less impact deformation.

Then there's Autobahn AB-X, which would be the closest to the OJs, the Torus had an 83b (outer) /97a (inner Core) - I can't recall what the Autobahn Ultras were, but I think they were the opposite, i.e., hard inner -83b- for stiff bearing seat, with either a 100 or 97a outer (either way they didn't slide for shit).

So basically just get some fucking normal wheels, all that other shit is  for the birds

[minilogoflow]

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Ok, thanks for the great responses. I'm curious to try the double duros or the dragons. I would love a wheel that feels smooth riding and doesn't make my feet numb when riding rugged ground but still has a decent slide.

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If you still want to throw out tricks, powerslide, or do tricks that slide (blunts, etc.) go with the Bones X97s over the dragons imo. If you are more a cruiser type skating from point A to B as transpo, go with dragons hands down

I'd give the OJs a shot if they were in the hardline shape, but it feels like they're targetting the re-issue crowd here by going with the mini combo shape (same for dragons at 93a and bigger wheels, tho now in V1).

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Ok. Then would you recommend Bones 97 over Spitfire 97? I see some Spits on sale atm. I'm more of a cruiser type skater nowadays, just occasionally throw some tricks.

As someone who has spent a lot of time on both, get the x97's over the F497 if you're mostly cruising. They absorb crust+impact better and slide better on rough ground. The F497 feel more like a traditional hard street wheel with a little extra grip.

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Ok, thanks for the great responses. I'm curious to try the double duros or the dragons. I would love a wheel that feels smooth riding and doesn't make my feet numb when riding rugged ground but still has a decent slide.

[close]

If you still want to throw out tricks, powerslide, or do tricks that slide (blunts, etc.) go with the Bones X97s over the dragons imo. If you are more a cruiser type skating from point A to B as transpo, go with dragons hands down

I'd give the OJs a shot if they were in the hardline shape, but it feels like they're targeting the re-issue crowd here by going with the mini combo shape (same for dragons at 93a and bigger wheels, tho now in V1).

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Ok. Then would you recommend Bones 97 over Spitfire 97? I see some Spits on sale atm. I'm more of a cruiser type skater nowadays, just occasionally throw some tricks.

@pops
Personally I'd pick x97s over the Spit 97s as they handle crust, and slide, better...97a spit are great but they feel just a bit sluggish to me on slides (especially blunt). If you are just cruising and occasionally tossing out tricks as you say AND money is a concern AND the spits are on sale, get spits.

Knowing how they both feel, just for cruising I'd still get the x97s. Speed checks, powerslides to regulate or for fun, x97s do it better...besides if they ain't F4s, this forum shits on it.

I skated the spit 97a for less than a day due to how they felt (hated them tbh). Still skating the x97s.

[roll_dog]

I don't really get the OJ mini combo shape. I prefer a symmetrical wheel.

I think the theory is that you can get the lock in of a conical and a rounded edge for easier scoop tricks or slappys

[rikki]

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I don't really get the OJ mini combo shape. I prefer a symmetrical wheel.

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I think the theory is that you can get the lock in of a conical and a rounded edge for easier scoop tricks or slappys

Yeah, fair enough. The problem is that there's no option of putting the graphics on the inside if you want to use them as intended.

[Mbrimson88]

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I don't really get the OJ mini combo shape. I prefer a symmetrical wheel.

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I think the theory is that you can get the lock in of a conical and a rounded edge for easier scoop tricks or slappys

[close]

Yeah, fair enough. The problem is that there's no option of putting the graphics on the inside if you want to use them as intended.

Yeah they are like a multi tool, but the shape was first done in the 80s on bigger combo 60 mm wheels and scaled down a bit more for the mini combo wheels for the 90s and on.

I seem to recall one old blown out pro trying to explain them, doing a pretty average job as he was so high at the time, but essentially it was as per the marketing blurb below, the minimally rounded inside for getting on coping or lips of curbs and locking on, with the outside cutaway to shave weight and also for getting on and off things more easily, eg rolling up to big coping like on pools, vert ramps or curbs needed a bit more open rounded part near the edge of the wheel, or something like that.

Some people do ride them facing inwards and there is nothing to say you can't but I always think because they are offset a bit towards the outside, they ride better that way, unless you have trucks that are too wide for the board or something like that.

As much as they might not look too different, the inside is a lot more squared off than the outside of the wheel when you see them in person, especially the larger sizes, more so than the smaller sizes.


https://www.nativeskatestore.co.uk/skateboards-c7/skateboard-wheels-c8/oj-wheels-jason-adams-slappy-hour-skateboard-wheels-58mm-p20365


They used to come with graphics on both sides for some variants, as some of the riders did ride them one way for some things and the other way for other things.





Now it seems like they a a bit more minimal on graphics though.