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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2520 on: April 02, 2024, 10:45:17 AM »
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I have the opportunity to have not too expensive an 8.25 True fit with 31.5 and 13.88 Wb .

I'm currently skating the Indy Forged Hollows 139 (The magic carpet doesn't scare me, i prefer this, I hate wide trucks)

However, I was wondering while skating 8.125 currently, does this true fit shape in 8.25 cause a big change or on the contrary, provides a feeling of a wide board with more ease for landing while maintaining ease of turning and flicking thanks to the Wb 13.88 ?
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I skated a 8.25 x 31.5 x 13.88 AH Truefit a while ago and liked it a whole lot. It's a fun shape, really great for tech/flat/what have you. Pretty sure you won't have any trouble moving to 8.25 from 8.125.

No, but I skate 5.2 los - that is my reason for wanting the 8.125.  I don't like that much of a magic carpet feeling.

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2521 on: April 02, 2024, 02:55:45 PM »
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Where can I find the dlx easy rider shape ?
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The instagram post from a couple of pages back had this to say - page 83 for everything about them:


New Easy Rider Concave decks coming soon. A new relaxed, comfy concave from DLX. Designed for full board feel - quick, responsive pop - and more control. Stay Tuned for info on when they will release at shops.


From that I am guessing they will be out in the next drop or so, but who knows, given it is a new product, it might be out sooner than later, or be a while off, but as yet they are only in testing and special team rider versions.

The Ben DG post on the same page said they were in 8.25, 8.38 and 8.5 I think, but others could correct me on that too.

Saw they are available for shops to order today.
Got one a little early and reviewed it. Apologies if too long winded and redundant .

https://youtu.be/kP-5xZYgdxY?si=gURdUbOVSW7I08wR



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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2522 on: April 03, 2024, 06:36:14 AM »
@Mbrimson88 have you seen any of these AH 8.5s in person?  A 7.06 nose (yes!), and a 14.0 WB?  These seem promising.

https://www.tactics.com/anti-hero/mis-registered-eagle-85-skateboard-deck/orange
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SIZE   8.5
CENTER WIDTH (IN):   8.5
LENGTH (IN):   31.75
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.0
NOSE (IN):   7.06
TAIL (IN):   6.625

I have one of these from a previous release that I haven't set up yet. The shape tapers a good bit. It is almost an 1/8" wider over the front truck measuring 8 x 5/8" and 1/16" narrower over the rear measuring 8 x 7/16". Happy to post pics with a ruler over each.

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2523 on: April 03, 2024, 12:11:46 PM »
Took the easy rider eagle out for a quick session at UN Plaza yesterday.
The deck felt great, I loved it right from the jump.  The only objections I have are: a) personally, I prefer the 14.5”WB so the 14.25” feels a little cramped (I should have asked for the 8.38” x 14.5” instead of the 8.5”) but the using the Indy’s instead of AF1s helped mitigate that small feeling a bit, and b) that I don’t care for the glitter. 
It feels like the flat portion across the middle of the deck is a little wider & obvs, the rise of the concave noticeably less.
The kicks still feel like the DLX mid ish kicks I’m accustomed to but maybe the nose is mellower(?)  The pop felt natural on/of both tips & I enjoyed the feel of nollies more than usual.
For how mellow this deck’s side to side concave is, it didn’t “flex out” how I suspected it might.  That is to say, it did NOT have that PS Stix-esque little bit of give.  Maybe that’s down to the lickle bit of spoonage they left in the tips?
I can’t say I really noticed it’s presence but the deck definitely has a little bit of a rocker as well.
The mellow cave was not off putting, & even though my tech game is grievously lacking, I was still able to appreciate the reduced rate of rise in the pocket. 
Pop felt fantastic on a pair of standard Indys & 54mm wheels.
The jury is still out for me as far as durability, compared to other BBS/DLX decks, as I’ve only just started in on this set up: I’ll report back if I uncover any abnormal issues.
For now though, I’m a fan of this thing; it feels really fun to my feet.
If you’re the sort that leans towards flatter concaves, maybe you always look for the deck marked IV in the stack order, or you’re like me & just really like trying out different stuff, you’ll almost certainly get some pleasure out of these.
It was my curiosity that led me to try this new mold out, but my actual experience on the deck is what’s causing me to keep it in the quiver, in spite of the glitter, rather than passing it along.

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2524 on: April 03, 2024, 02:39:05 PM »
I have the opportunity to have not too expensive an 8.25 True fit with 31.5 and 13.88 Wb .

I'm currently skating the Indy Forged Hollows 139 (The magic carpet doesn't scare me, i prefer this, I hate wide trucks)

However, I was wondering while skating 8.125 currently, does this true fit shape in 8.25 cause a big change or on the contrary, provides a feeling of a wide board with more ease for landing while maintaining ease of turning and flicking thanks to the Wb 13.88 ?

 

While I've not ridden any true fits yet, that is the general idea (same for NHS 'stump' boards); you get a regular (true/same mold) shaped board as the bigger ones, just scaled down proportionately.

That said, of ALL size adjustments I notice the switch from 8.125/8.25 and vice versa the most of anything (except for jumping to an 8.75).

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2525 on: April 03, 2024, 05:53:33 PM »

Took the easy rider eagle out for a quick session at UN Plaza yesterday...



As always, a good read, great observations and makes me very interested to try one.

I think the hype around these boards and the Spitfire 93 duro wheels are well deserved too, so it will be good when both those make it out here to AU.




Saw they are available for shops to order today.
Got one a little early and reviewed it. Apologies if too long winded and redundant .

https://youtu.be/kP-5xZYgdxY?si=gURdUbOVSW7I08wR



Same with your info and video - always keen to see and watch and worth the time and effort too.

Thanks for the info and updates!


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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2526 on: April 04, 2024, 02:30:33 PM »
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To add to that, I just noticed DLX posted this, which has the board pics and info.

Sparkle eagles in 8.38 and 8.5 shapes

Real ovals in 8.25 and 8.5 shapes


The most interesting thing is that the kicks are not mellow, the angle of the kicks still pretty medium (which I find steep) but the side to side concave is less, among other things.


Text from that post:


More than just mellower - Easy Riders - heading to your local shop today.

Introducing a new, relaxed, comfy, concave designed for a full-board feel, quick, responsive pop, and more control. Team and @bendegros approved. Quality Guaranteed.

@realskateboards 8.25” x 32.07” - 14” WB & 8.5” x 31.8” - 14.25” WB

@antihero18 8.38” x 32.25” - 14.5” WB & 8.5” x 31.8” - 14.25” WB





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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2527 on: April 04, 2024, 05:56:56 PM »
Don't forget you can usually get all the new DLX stuff direct...and before the other [bigger online] shops...

https://dlxskateshop.com/collections/skate-goods

(FYI 8.25" easy riders and 52mm easy sliders SOLD OUT)

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2528 on: April 04, 2024, 09:50:56 PM »
Don't forget you can usually get all the new DLX stuff direct...and before the other [bigger online] shops...

https://dlxskateshop.com/collections/skate-goods

(FYI 8.25" easy riders and 52mm easy sliders SOLD OUT)

Just copped the 8.5. Very excited 😊

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2529 on: April 05, 2024, 07:42:36 AM »
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Don't forget you can usually get all the new DLX stuff direct...and before the other [bigger online] shops...

https://dlxskateshop.com/collections/skate-goods

(FYI 8.25" easy riders and 52mm easy sliders SOLD OUT)
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Just copped the 8.5. Very excited 😊

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2530 on: April 05, 2024, 09:55:49 AM »
Does the decreased concave make the deck feel more flexible than a regular DLX shape?

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2531 on: April 05, 2024, 04:05:27 PM »
Does the decreased concave make the deck feel more flexible than a regular DLX shape?


Someone in one of their videos - maybe 144p or Ben DG said it doesn't when they skated it.

I have some other really mellow concave boards that look very much like those, especially when they are up beside a "normal concave board" but of course the older ones I have are just regular boards, not the modified mold boards, not the same at each end in the angle, etc.

Interesting to see how this develops though, as I definitely prefer the mellow side to side concave and can deal with the steeper kick and mellow it out easily enough.


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« Reply #2532 on: April 05, 2024, 04:25:56 PM »
I probably should have read this thread before purchasing but I made the assumption the kicks would be more mellow. Appreciate the video @144p and the well written review @Lou Strux. While my bag of tricks is small, I’m keen to try this and report back on how flips/ transition feels, vs. the 8.5 blue eagle I’m on now.

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« Reply #2533 on: April 05, 2024, 05:39:57 PM »
Ordered the 8.5 eagle. Would have gone with the 8.3 but didn’t due to length. Might be weird with ace lows but I’ll see when it gets here. Do wish I saw Dave’s review about the kicks before I ordered it but I just got a decent raise and if it’s a stinker it’s not a huge deal.

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« Reply #2534 on: April 05, 2024, 05:47:40 PM »
Ordered the 8.5 eagle. Would have gone with the 8.3 but didn’t due to length. Might be weird with ace lows but I’ll see when it gets here. Do wish I saw Dave’s review about the kicks before I ordered it but I just got a decent raise and if it’s a stinker it’s not a huge deal.


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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2535 on: April 05, 2024, 11:35:01 PM »
Seems like people just assumed the whole board would be mellow so their initial reaction is ZOMGSTEEPKICKSWTAF when it seems they're just mediumish (stack position not withstanding).

DLX marketing says nothing about the kicks, it's all about the concave...and of course DaddyBen is very clear in his video that the main focus was (literally) the concave BUMP as it pertains to the transition into/out of, the pockets:
https://youtu.be/E5u8YKaCXIU?t=21

TL;DR: Kicks are not concave (the SPOON of the kicks not being in discussion, which he does mention in the video).

Dwindle broke them out: Steep kicks/mellow concave, steep kicks/full concave/mellow kicks/mellow concave/etc).

Was riding mainly BBS (cuz twin tails) for a while, mainly DW/Quasi, and some NHS twins, all of which are steeper and deeper than my last few boards which were very flat (I purposely searched for flat boards): PStix toy machine, Primitive (china), and Roger (HLC) so we'll see how the easy rider stacks up.

https://youtu.be/zykbdHkmrEQ?si=mDJ2PSRYU9XW1iVD







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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2536 on: April 06, 2024, 12:30:06 AM »
We will ever see a easy rider x true fit

That was my first thought when I saw the dimensions



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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2537 on: April 06, 2024, 01:37:04 AM »
We will ever see a easy rider x true fit

That was my first thought when I saw the dimensions




My guess is probably not because that would require an additional/new mold…

…I’m still waiting for a low pro II full SE slick…


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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2538 on: April 06, 2024, 02:42:16 AM »
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Ordered the 8.5 eagle. Would have gone with the 8.3 but didn’t due to length. Might be weird with ace lows but I’ll see when it gets here. Do wish I saw Dave’s review about the kicks before I ordered it but I just got a decent raise and if it’s a stinker it’s not a huge deal.
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I’ll report back

Looks like it’s going to get here Friday
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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2539 on: April 06, 2024, 01:35:09 PM »
Seems like people just assumed the whole board would be mellow so their initial reaction is ZOMGSTEEPKICKSWTAF when it seems they're just mediumish (stack position not withstanding).

DLX marketing says nothing about the kicks, it's all about the concave...and of course DaddyBen is very clear in his video that the main focus was (literally) the concave BUMP as it pertains to the transition into/out of, the pockets:
https://youtu.be/E5u8YKaCXIU?t=21

TL;DR: Kicks are not concave (the SPOON of the kicks not being in discussion, which he does mention in the video).

Dwindle broke them out: Steep kicks/mellow concave, steep kicks/full concave/mellow kicks/mellow concave/etc).

Was riding mainly BBS (cuz twin tails) for a while, mainly DW/Quasi, and some NHS twins, all of which are steeper and deeper than my last few boards which were very flat (I purposely searched for flat boards): PStix toy machine, Primitive (china), and Roger (HLC) so we'll see how the easy rider stacks up.

https://youtu.be/zykbdHkmrEQ?si=mDJ2PSRYU9XW1iVD

Looks like I landed a 1/I out of the stack.

Feels/looks like a normal medium concave deck lol, pics later.

Big 8.25 primitive vibes but the dlx version.

Primitive/easy rider noses


Primitive/easy rider tails


Easy Rider (bottom) /Quasi (top)


Easy Rider bottom / Heroin top


It feels nice but it's just a DLX board with mellow concave. BUT as someone who struggles to get 14" to work, this deck with Ventures and longer kicks good amount of fingers of flat (like all the primitives I've ridden) feels totally acceptable/not small or cramped; measures 32"L 14"WB and 8.25"w 7.25" nose and a little over 6.75" tail


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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2540 on: April 09, 2024, 04:48:18 AM »
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Just think if Eric Koston had that deck, he wouldn't need to redrill his Venture baseplates as the wheelbase is short enough and the kicks long enough for everything to work.

That is my take on that board anyway.


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« Reply #2541 on: April 09, 2024, 07:06:04 AM »
It would be nice if dlx had a consistent option for all around mellower decks. Hoping the shop gets a stamp IV in a shape/graphic I prefer is a stretch. I do think over everyone else in the industry they are doing the most with offering all kinds of shapes and concaves.
And yes I get the easy rider is specifically about concave but the customers I talk with seem more concerned with kicks than concave.

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2542 on: April 09, 2024, 07:42:25 AM »
It would be nice if dlx had a consistent option for all around mellower decks. Hoping the shop gets a stamp IV in a shape/graphic I prefer is a stretch. I do think over everyone else in the industry they are doing the most with offering all kinds of shapes and concaves.
And yes I get the easy rider is specifically about concave but the customers I talk with seem more concerned with kicks than concave.

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« Reply #2543 on: April 09, 2024, 09:40:50 AM »
It would be nice if dlx had a consistent option for all around mellower decks. Hoping the shop gets a stamp IV in a shape/graphic I prefer is a stretch. I do think over everyone else in the industry they are doing the most with offering all kinds of shapes and concaves.
And yes I get the easy rider is specifically about concave but the customers I talk with seem more concerned with kicks than concave.

Totally agree. This is as close as your are gonna get out of BBS unless you hunt for your preferred stamp; I switched to PStix for a few boards and coming back to any BBS they are all stiff and steep (and heavy) whereas PS is flex/mellow (and light); this easy rider is no different. I'd ride again tho I was always partial to the dwindle steep kicks/mellow concave...if the kicks are too flat my pop will vanish.

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2544 on: April 09, 2024, 11:50:01 AM »
IMHO, DLX makes way, way, way too much stuff.* Worse, they are not consistent enough with the stuff they do make. Over the last...10 years(?)...they have made Low-Pros decks, the 8-Ply decks, the Fulls, the SE fulls, Slicks, the Tru-Fits, the Twin-Tails, Wheel-Wells, and now these Easy Riders. And that's not even getting into their regular decks, their shaped decks, or the I-IV stamp options.

And then there is the ever-changing Spitfire options/cancellations.

It sucks if you find something you like, only have to have it later yanked away. It sucks if you find some thing you like, but can't find it, because there is no way any shop could stock all those options.

Like, sometimes you just need to know when to pull-out/stop. Thankfully my favorite DLX decks are common staples (8.25 and the 8.75), and all I have to worry about is the stamp number (and that alone is a pain in the ass, too).

*Would be cool if they made more options with their trucks design, and not just weight fixation (standard, hollow, Ti)...like offering Thunder with a normal baseplate option. Seems like that is way more of an obvious thing to produce than a Lock-In Full, or this Easy Rider thing...which seems to be designed for the whims of one guy (Ben D.), who likes steep kicks with flat boards (were most people take issue with kicks being too steep, and not the concave).

It's cool that DLX is trying new stuff, and I respect them for that...but it comes at a cost.


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« Reply #2545 on: April 09, 2024, 12:20:28 PM »
Wheel-welled Huffer. It is game over. Stamp it IV and I'll spend a pay check on as many as I can get.

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« Reply #2546 on: April 09, 2024, 12:56:36 PM »
at the risk of just agreeing with everyone here….i agree!

well, mostly: this is mostly a ‘me’ problem, but the large humps/swoops, in the concave, are what i dislike about bbs. these bends give bbs the durability that we all seemed to like. i remember kayo boards in the early 2000s being sought after. for me, bbs has lost much of their magic, and like @Xen noted, the boards are heavy, and for me, less ‘fun’.
i’m with whomever else wants the flatter boards, and i’m glad to sacrifice durability. but that means in the nose and tail kick as well. i want flat AND mellow.

i buy the 4 press dlx boards, if im going to get one. whenever i do not (usually a krooked board that just looks cool, i decide i have to have it), i regret it.

dlx makes cool stuff, glad they make a lot of stuff. it is too much.
(time to lose the crowd) i’m fine with them ditching radial slims (a wheel that i would actually skate), i just get the classics instead. fuck it. but, it does seem a little too clogged at the other end of the product line: lock in fulls, radial fulls, conical fulls etc etc.

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2547 on: April 09, 2024, 02:55:34 PM »
I have a huffer IV stamp at home, looks like I'm gonna set it up tonight now.

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2548 on: April 09, 2024, 04:14:14 PM »
Slicks sell, or they just keep making cuz ya'know, Ishod...but yeah all the 'innovation' isn't if it doesn't stay around. Take flights or VX, sure they're pricier, but for board breakers, they're money saved in the long run; no 'deck tech' DLX brings out sticks around save slicks...same goes for boneite, helium, featherlight..hell I'm surprised NHSs P2s lasted as long as they did.

I'd bet money these will be phased out and skating one, it isn't by any means revolutionary, if you want mellow (and I prefer mellow kicks and 'cave these days) you are better off with Primitives (but you need to check where they are pressed...)since that is just what this board is but with steeper kicks - don't forget, this thing has a loooong tail as well. Highly doubtful I'll skate another one as you can just grab an alien/primitive or disorder and get the same thing (but lighter, cripser and more flex).
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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2549 on: April 09, 2024, 05:57:21 PM »
The easy rider is very very niche, but I feel DLX see's the youtube market that powell is tapped into and Ben is on a short list of them that doesn't turn most people off. They've tried a dozen or so concave options with Real over the years, the Mellow the fuck out boards were great but not on trend in 2012.
Every person I've talked to about the easy rider concave assumed it was mellow all around, not just concave.
I know Kyle Walker was skating a special mold that is super flat, so I know people are interested in an all around flatter deck.