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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2970 on: January 26, 2025, 05:05:11 AM »

... Surprised no 8.4, though. That should really be added to the Eagles.


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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2971 on: January 26, 2025, 08:53:22 AM »
Possibly a stupid question, but enlighten me, Slap wizards: why isn't there (or is there) a DLX 8.38 x 14.38 popsicle?

(I'm aware that some of the BBS made 8.25 x 14.38's are closer to a 8.38, but that's not an official feature, and since the China-made decks arrived, an 8.25 is an 8.25.)

Despite all that DLX does, they have some real blind spots, which has always bewildered me. Three decks, which are very common throughout the industry, that DLX does not regularly make in a standard popsicle:

8.25 / 14.25
8.38 / 14.38
8.5 / 14.5
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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2972 on: January 26, 2025, 08:55:43 AM »
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... Surprised no 8.4, though. That should really be added to the Eagles.

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I mean, they added the 10" Horsepill to the Eagles, but not an 8.4. What?!?
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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2973 on: January 26, 2025, 09:50:31 AM »
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Possibly a stupid question, but enlighten me, Slap wizards: why isn't there (or is there) a DLX 8.38 x 14.38 popsicle?

(I'm aware that some of the BBS made 8.25 x 14.38's are closer to a 8.38, but that's not an official feature, and since the China-made decks arrived, an 8.25 is an 8.25.)

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Awesome, thanks! Wasn't aware of the Full SE one. Would gnar.

Edit: although that one's gonna be pretty much impossible to find here in Europe....

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2974 on: January 26, 2025, 10:03:27 AM »
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Possibly a stupid question, but enlighten me, Slap wizards: why isn't there (or is there) a DLX 8.38 x 14.38 popsicle?

(I'm aware that some of the BBS made 8.25 x 14.38's are closer to a 8.38, but that's not an official feature, and since the China-made decks arrived, an 8.25 is an 8.25.)

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Awesome, thanks! Wasn't aware of the Full SE one. Would gnar.

Edit: although that one's gonna be pretty much impossible to find here in Europe....

They are next to impossible to find anywhere, because DLX makes too much stuff to keep it all in regular rotation, and when these "oddball" shapes do come out, they are infrequent, and you can only find them for a short period of time. After that, good luck.
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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2975 on: January 26, 2025, 11:02:51 AM »
I loved the 8.25 Full SE but they never make it. I now have been enjoying the 8.25x14.38 easy rider but have almost no confidence it'll remain in the lineup for long considering the current drop only has a Krooked Eyes and the Busenitz I'm riding.

I love the 8.4 but they give it the worst fucking graphics every time. What I really want is a Manderson Easy Rider. I'd ride this with 5.8, 53 Spits of almost any shape, be happy for all time.

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2976 on: January 26, 2025, 12:12:12 PM »
I loved the 8.25 Full SE but they never make it. I now have been enjoying the 8.25x14.38 easy rider but have almost no confidence it'll remain in the lineup for long considering the current drop only has a Krooked Eyes and the Busenitz I'm riding.

I love the 8.4 but they give it the worst fucking graphics every time. What I really want is a Manderson Easy Rider. I'd ride this with 5.8, 53 Spits of almost any shape, be happy for all time.

The exact reason I won't fuck with any of the of the DLX "novelty" products--you have absolutely now idea how long it will be around for, or how available it will be. Again, all because they simply make too much stuff.
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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2977 on: January 26, 2025, 01:54:52 PM »
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I loved the 8.25 Full SE but they never make it. I now have been enjoying the 8.25x14.38 easy rider but have almost no confidence it'll remain in the lineup for long considering the current drop only has a Krooked Eyes and the Busenitz I'm riding.

I love the 8.4 but they give it the worst fucking graphics every time. What I really want is a Manderson Easy Rider. I'd ride this with 5.8, 53 Spits of almost any shape, be happy for all time.
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The exact reason I won't fuck with any of the of the DLX "novelty" products--you have absolutely now idea how long it will be around for, or how available it will be. Again, all because they simply make too much stuff.



 I feel this way about pretty much all my gear. I wanna skate stuff that I know will pretty much always be around.

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2978 on: January 26, 2025, 07:59:39 PM »
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Spring 2025 anti-hero drop is up. Seems to be a smaller “drop.” Aside from the Pigeon Motion, graphics are pretty horrible, too, imho.
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That current drop might just have the most diversity in shapes and sizes I have seen in the one drop though.

The regular boards, the "short" versions, this, that and more.


As you said graphics are a bit out there, but I am taking most graphics off a lot of boards anyway, so graphics are not such a big deal to me.


Were some of those short boards the reason you were asking about the length and wheelbase on them?


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Without question, one of the most varied drops they've done. Surprised no 8.4, though. That should really be added to the Eagles.

Graphics: Yeah, they are never a big deal, but it's always better have graphics you're stoked on rather than, well, those John Herdon abortions. 

Shorter WB: I was musing over team pigeons, and the 8.28, and unbelievably similar they all seem on paper...and was just wonder about the differences....hadn't seen the Spring drop yet.

There there seems to be some weird graphic typos, too. Anyone else seeing an "8.28" box in the middle of the black 8.12 deck (by right side the eagle's head)?

Also, did Real never have a proper "winter 2024" drop???


Re Winter - They have three main catalogs a year - Spring, Summer then Fall, or should I say sometimes there is Holiday release which could be considered Winter, but no usual last drop in the way the other three seasons get drops with multiple deliveries, eg Drop 1, 2 and 3 for some.  I think I had seen some brands put out something like a Winter drop sometimes but looking back I can't see anything for a while now.

Re 8.28 dropped on the eagles - ha yeah I didn't even notice that before - guessing someone went to copy paste and dropped it or hit paste twice?  Either way, not a big deal.  Some other mistakes have been way more obvious in the past, but can't think of any examples right this minute.



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Re drops of stock, looking back through the catalogs that I am aware of, for DLX there were the following:

2024
Spring 2024 had 2 drops plus an "Early Spring" and Skate Shop Day catalog
Summer 2024 had 2 drops
Fall 2024 had 3 drops, so that kind of counts as Fall to Winter I guess. 

2025
Spring 2025 had an early drop, then 2 full drops and SSD catalog.
Summer 2025 first drop out so far.


I guess not a whole lot happens during the cold of Winter / Christmas / Holiday time in USA, even if it doesn't snow in some areas, so getting things done to give everyone a break is a good idea overall.

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2979 on: January 26, 2025, 08:04:58 PM »
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Re shapes and too many options / lack of options when you need them:


Definitely a number of shapes that seem to be here and there, as per the last half dozen posts too, but I guess that also depends on how often people buy up stock and sit on it.  Gotta say when ever I found something I liked I tended to buy as much of it as I could, but I know other people who are always pissed they get something they like once but then when they do need another board, they can never find one.

A couple of people I skate with used to just have one board setup and one as backup, but even that was sometimes not enough, so they would go hunting and at least one guy did a couple of day drive around looking for a specific shape until he ended up giving up and getting something else to skate, while waiting for an online order to arrive.  I think both those guys now stock up a lot more after seeing how I would do it, but you got to have a bit of spare coin and patience to look and find the good deals too.


Could it be the reason they don't have some of the more widely known / common shapes is they don't need them, they have trucks to fit their boards, so don't need to make boards to fit other trucks, or some other things people have said, maybe more so that they do stand out and don't just make the basic generic shapes, sizes or whatever so that people just add them to the list of everything else?

Could also be that their team guys do give a lot of feedback and that is what they prefer, more than anything, eg making the 14.12 wb rather than 14.25 to go with the longer wheelbases of Thunder or Venture?

Just a few thoughts there anyway.



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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2980 on: January 26, 2025, 10:30:20 PM »
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Re shapes and too many options / lack of options when you need them:


Definitely a number of shapes that seem to be here and there, as per the last half dozen posts too, but I guess that also depends on how often people buy up stock and sit on it.  Gotta say when ever I found something I liked I tended to buy as much of it as I could, but I know other people who are always pissed they get something they like once but then when they do need another board, they can never find one.

A couple of people I skate with used to just have one board setup and one as backup, but even that was sometimes not enough, so they would go hunting and at least one guy did a couple of day drive around looking for a specific shape until he ended up giving up and getting something else to skate, while waiting for an online order to arrive.  I think both those guys now stock up a lot more after seeing how I would do it, but you got to have a bit of spare coin and patience to look and find the good deals too.


Could it be the reason they don't have some of the more widely known / common shapes is they don't need them, they have trucks to fit their boards, so don't need to make boards to fit other trucks, or some other things people have said, maybe more so that they do stand out and don't just make the basic generic shapes, sizes or whatever so that people just add them to the list of everything else?

Could also be that their team guys do give a lot of feedback and that is what they prefer, more than anything, eg making the 14.12 wb rather than 14.25 to go with the longer wheelbases of Thunder or Venture?

Just a few thoughts there anyway.

Whatever the reason, it just makes for a bad "user experience," unless you go for the standard issue stuff (and even then, have to hunt down "IV" stamped...)
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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2981 on: January 28, 2025, 02:39:52 PM »
Anyone able to compare the blue eagle 8.5 to the 8.28 shape?
8.5 shape has been my go to for years but have been curious about sizing down, I know that one measures closer to 8.38/14.1wb so the 8.28 sounds like the most similar shape but scaled down a bit.

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2982 on: January 28, 2025, 07:23:41 PM »
Anyone able to compare the blue eagle 8.5 to the 8.28 shape?
8.5 shape has been my go to for years but have been curious about sizing down, I know that one measures closer to 8.38/14.1wb so the 8.28 sounds like the most similar shape but scaled down a bit.


Yes I had both.

Sitting the 8.28 over the top of the 8.5, they are so very close all round, just a tiny bit shorter in both kicks, the wheelbase (so very minimal really) and the main thing only the 8.5 is a fair bit wider at the shoulder (front truck area) before it tapers down to very similar width, but still a touch wider in the back truck area.

If you wanted to size down from the blue eagle 8.5 then the 8.28 shape could be a good start, given how close they all all round.

Both these are the same number top, both seem like the same general mold, eg the kicks start at the same points on both, compared to some boards where the kicks are closer together (smaller flat in the middle) or the kicks are further apart (more flat in the middle of the board) so everything is very close all up.


If you can stand on one, the 8.28 definitely feels a little less over my front foot than the 8.5, but that is to be expected.

Everything else is fairly comparable - even if it is just going by a standing on the deck alone perspective, compared to setting one of each up and going from there.


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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2983 on: January 29, 2025, 07:45:58 PM »
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Anyone able to compare the blue eagle 8.5 to the 8.28 shape?
8.5 shape has been my go to for years but have been curious about sizing down, I know that one measures closer to 8.38/14.1wb so the 8.28 sounds like the most similar shape but scaled down a bit.
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Yes I had both.

Sitting the 8.28 over the top of the 8.5, they are so very close all round, just a tiny bit shorter in both kicks, the wheelbase (so very minimal really) and the main thing only the 8.5 is a fair bit wider at the shoulder (front truck area) before it tapers down to very similar width, but still a touch wider in the back truck area.

If you wanted to size down from the blue eagle 8.5 then the 8.28 shape could be a good start, given how close they all all round.

Both these are the same number top, both seem like the same general mold, eg the kicks start at the same points on both, compared to some boards where the kicks are closer together (smaller flat in the middle) or the kicks are further apart (more flat in the middle of the board) so everything is very close all up.


If you can stand on one, the 8.28 definitely feels a little less over my front foot than the 8.5, but that is to be expected.

Everything else is fairly comparable - even if it is just going by a standing on the deck alone perspective, compared to setting one of each up and going from there.

I've also had both, but not for awhile, so take my comments with a grain/pile of salt.

8.28 felt a tad more like a true "twin tail" compared to the 8.5, because it didn't taper the way the 8.5 does. I feel like the kicks on the 8.28 were slightly more rounded, too (whereas the 8.5 has a very subtle, but more of a "pointed" shape). 8.28 also felt shorter lengthwise, and the kicks also felt shorter. 8.28 def felt more twitchy, and overall I liked the 8.5 better (and I don't really even like that deck). If you are trying to downsize from the 8.5, I def think the 8.28 is a solid choice to get that ball rolling. Let us know how it goes.
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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2984 on: January 29, 2025, 07:54:06 PM »
So, Real put out their Spring drop...and like the AH Spring drop, I feel like it is sort of a limited number of decks (and Real usually has the most expansive drops)...
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« Reply #2985 on: January 29, 2025, 11:31:42 PM »
So, Real put out their Spring drop...and like the AH Spring drop, I feel like it is sort of a limited number of decks (and Real usually has the most expansive drops)...

Yeah, no, not a good sign. Looks to me like DLX is anticipating a significant drop in demand and has trimmed their drops accordingly. Survive '25  :-\ .

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« Reply #2986 on: January 29, 2025, 11:40:00 PM »
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So, Real put out their Spring drop...and like the AH Spring drop, I feel like it is sort of a limited number of decks (and Real usually has the most expansive drops)...
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Yeah, no, not a good sign. Looks to me like DLX is anticipating a significant drop in demand and has trimmed their drops accordingly. Survive '25  :-\ .

To be honest, I was basically thinking something along the same lines. Is the industry finally going to collapse again? God, I hope so.
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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2987 on: January 30, 2025, 03:33:00 AM »
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So, Real put out their Spring drop...and like the AH Spring drop, I feel like it is sort of a limited number of decks (and Real usually has the most expansive drops)...
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Yeah, no, not a good sign. Looks to me like DLX is anticipating a significant drop in demand and has trimmed their drops accordingly. Survive '25  :-\ .
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To be honest, I was basically thinking something along the same lines. Is the industry finally going to collapse again? God, I hope so.


I did a board count from the last few drops of catalogs, each drop the main brands come up with about 13 decks, at least Real, AH and Krooked for the most part although they do have a few with 8 to 10, then There brand usually has between 5 and 6.

That seems fairly consistent overall, so I don't really see it going down with the current drops, at least not from the catalogs that shops get to pre order from.

Maybe once all product is up, it fills out more, eg look at the previous drops online more so than the current single drop.


I definitely think things are tightening down though - so much stock and too many shops, but not enough customers in general, so it seems.

Who knows how things may also change with tariffs or anything else if everything is made in Mexico, then brought in to SF.

Wait and see though.


 
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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2988 on: February 11, 2025, 11:38:05 AM »
Quick, someone in Van Nuys grab Ishod's carbon ply deck and report with a full scientifical analysis! ;D



Apparently, they are coming out very soon... summer's 1st drop maybe?
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« Reply #2989 on: February 11, 2025, 12:40:09 PM »
Its not carbon, its Basalt. They will be $140 and supposedly last extremely long some pros ride them for 3-4 months and they still feel brand new.

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« Reply #2990 on: February 11, 2025, 12:42:29 PM »
Lol I was riffing about Easy Riders disappearing and sure enough, the only 8.25 Easy Rider at all is the Krooked Eyes. IIRC from all the catalogs the Ben D and 8.38 Easy Riders are gone and I swear I didn't see any 8.5s

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« Reply #2991 on: February 11, 2025, 01:34:12 PM »
Its not carbon, its Basalt. They will be $140 and supposedly last extremely long some pros ride them for 3-4 months and they still feel brand new.
interesting. for me, the first harbinger of board "death" is when the tail starts to wear down. I rarely keep a board going past 4 plies, which usually winds up being 3-4 weeks. Unless this basalt layer is like 2nd-from-bottom I don't see it giving me any real benefit for that price.

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2992 on: February 11, 2025, 01:37:46 PM »
Quick, someone in Van Nuys grab Ishod's carbon ply deck and report with a full scientifical analysis! ;D



Apparently, they are coming out very soon... summer's 1st drop maybe?


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« Reply #2993 on: February 11, 2025, 02:42:24 PM »
Its not carbon, its Basalt. They will be $140 and supposedly last extremely long some pros ride them for 3-4 months and they still feel brand new.

I'm guessing the durability will depend why one usually retire a board. I can see this helping the board keep its stiffness for much longer and being harder to break, but wont it razor tail just as fast? Or once you hit that middle ply, it will slow down in that regard as well?

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2994 on: February 11, 2025, 03:38:50 PM »
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I often think that carbon or extra strength type boards are more suited to people who do break a lot of boards, so for them, a normal seven ply board might last one session or so, but having a carbon type board, at least it might last more than a few sessions for them, which at the end of the day is the main thing.

There are some guys I know who skate the same Powell Flight boards day after day, month after month, even re grip them when they need to, mainly because all they skate is mini ramp or bowl or vert and almost never actually drag the tail or pop their board, so the thing never wears out.  The funny thing is those are the guys who could ride a normal board and still have it last a long time, but I guess they have the money so get whatever they want in that regard.

For everyone else though, any normal skateboarding usually means the tail (and often nose) will wear down so that determines the length of life of a board more than anything else, barring it ending up in two pieces or broken from whatever bad landings, etc.

If keeping things stiff and not getting flexed out is key, then I could see those other type of boards working well for someone, regardless of how long they actually last for the person, but the bottom line is how much are people wanting to pay compared to how long the thing will last.

People can make up their own minds there really.


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« Reply #2995 on: February 11, 2025, 03:56:52 PM »
Agreed, Powell flight. Craig pop secret and the NHS (whatever it is called) version, are too stiff for me. Almost feel like  there is too much rebound for my knees and ankles... Will likely try the DLX version to see if it has better or more forgiving flex.

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2996 on: February 11, 2025, 04:06:05 PM »
Agreed, Powell flight. Craig pop secret and the NHS (whatever it is called) version, are too stiff for me. Almost feel like  there is too much rebound for my knees and ankles... Will likely try the DLX version to see if it has better or more forgiving flex.
I wonder if the 93 or a similar soft sliding wheel would balance out the unforgiving stiffness. I've been considering a vx deck but maybe I'll wait for the DLX version. At this point, the 100 dollar gamble isn't looking so wild with regular board reaching 80 bucks new.

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2997 on: February 12, 2025, 11:25:10 AM »
I don't know, if they last forever how's that gonna help DLX or shops? I know it's not very eco-friendly but like it's a disposable industry

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« Reply #2998 on: February 12, 2025, 11:58:54 AM »
They're not carbon so they don't feel as stiff as the Crail decks. If anything its more eco friendly. If a normal deck lasts someone 3 weeks and these last 4 months that is 1 deck for every 5.333 normal ones. For kids that jump down shit and break decks it might make sense although the kids near me just buy $45 shop decks. And they won't stop chips on the normal plies. Older people like myself would just get bored of the graphics.

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« Reply #2999 on: February 13, 2025, 11:53:05 AM »
For anyone that’s skated the Grosso shape in 9.25”, what size trucks did you use? I’m thinking of either AF1 66 or Thunder 161 with 59mm Radial Fulls.

Thanks in advance.