Basically that penny getting grief at radlands story shows you what a piece of shit skating was at that time. I remember being super stoked on penny and muska cause they didn't seem like pack of faggots (which the girl camp as rad as they were, always came off as to me, don't get me started with those dudes playing golf and basketball and shit -these are the dudes who dissed penny. I hated the shitty mantality but loved their skating. I remember bill Weiss was interviewed for that radlands contest in 411. He said that Tom penny was number one and he was saying it all defiantly (like 'fuck the rest'), I remember. After hearing about big pros all dissing him it makes sense.