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@hayduke lives

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@rothdigga wondering if the black and olive 440 is indeed the new synth color and if the wides are synth as well? they look great so hoping they are

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Goddamn! Some fire colorways incoming. Been wanting an all black Tom Knox since the shoe first dropped

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https://exodusrideshop.com/products/new-balance-numeric-440v2-wide-skateboard-shoe-black-olive?_pos=8&_fid=d6beccfb5&_ss=c&variant=41102663155830

They've got the 440 listed as wide, anyone know if this colorway is, in fact, the wide/2e version? @rothdigga ?

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If they have it listed as a wide then they probably got a run of the 2E width ones to sell I'm guessing. 

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Mine should arrive today, so I will follow-up; "probably got a run of the 2E width ones to sell I'm guessing" isn't exactly reassuring as the only dark colorway 440v2 that's been listed on the NB site as a wide has been the blk/gum (this colorway isn't even up yet).

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@Gray Imp Sausage Metal are those ^ the vegan 440s you got a preview of?

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they are indeed!

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EDIT: just arrived. They're 2E for sure (says on the box and under the tongue) as there is a WIDE tag on them - no visual indiication/marker if these are vegan or not but pretty sure they are as the 'suede' areas have a very soft 'non-suede' feel to it.

Initital fit: TTS (10.5) width is really nice; feels like a 2E - I've got a pair of [nike] runners that are 2E. Took out the stock ortholite and put in something with arch support an there is plenty of room+with no special socks to fit or fill out the shoe.

Recenlty, I switched to Xero barefoot shoes for working out and some barefoot style slip-ons for 'house shoes' all using the same insole (about two weeks straight now) - plenty of tow splay in them and these NB# feel 'fine' just walking around as compared to say, asics or any other shoe I had on hand to skate in. They all felt cramped compared to the barefoots.

Colorway is way more bad.ass in person.

It's the first truely wide feeling skate shoe (for me anyway)...feels weird since most are always too narrow. Mid-foot also plenty wide for me.

Top two eyelets on each pair were a struggle to lace, 2 weren't even peirced all the way.




New box, no extra laces =(

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These look super fire. Might have to jump on the train

I went to double dip but they're sold out where I nabbeded. Hopefully they'll hit other shops soon.


Edit: They're up in two colorways at NB: https://www.newbalance.com/pd/nb-numeric-440-v2/NM440V2-47526.html?dwvar_NM440V2-47526_style=NM440WGR#dwvar_NM440V2-47526_style=NM440VBS&dwvar_NM440V2-47526_width=D&pid=NM440V2-47526&quantity=1

BLK/Mushroom Mids in wide/2E as well.

Maybe we'll get lucky today with some Father's day codes at other shops if they show up.

[Lukabrazi]

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I've been having lots of discomfort on the soles of my feet when skating the 808. I've been skating those pretty consistently now and it's the only shoe that hurts my feet. I tried different insoles with them but nothing seems to help. I really like the shoes otherwise but the fact that my feet are in pain after wearing them for 10 minutes is not very tempting. This didnt happen when they were new but I also wore them less than now.

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The 808’s are bricks. Wish they’d update them with Fuel Cell. Whatever’s in the midsole is the most uncomfortable stuff ever. Shoe has no bounce to it.

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Must be that. I simply cant wear these, idk. Would be sick shoes with different midsole and slightly lighter. Or maybe I'll just give these a few tries and see if it works out.

I’m in the same boat , had a pair of the wheat 808s for almost a year, will put them on for a few minutes and it’s just pain . I sized half size up too, just left shoe stretchers in them for a week+ and tried them on yesterday and there is just so much excess fabric digging into the top of my foot in the bottom of the tongue . I think I’ll finally give up on these now .

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Anyone else have an issue with the 480 where the arch digs into their mid foot? The toe box is a dream but damn it stings every time I land. I have the same issue with Tiagos.

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This is a known issue. Somehow the profile of the insole seems to cause foot pain / discomfort for some peeps.

Try swapping the insole into a wider insole, e.g. a normal NB Ortholite insole. Seems to work for many.

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yea definitely fit issues with my 480 Boss colorway. Was the midfoot - not specifically the arch, I swapped insoles from 1010 but didn’t really help a ton. Ended up having to get rid of them. Now the 440v2 giving me snugness issues too - after plenty of pairs (913, 1010, 440) fitting fine these last two a bit dissapointing

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Big thank you to Rikki and Daydream, good to know I’m not the only person with this issue. It’s a bummer and it’s kept me from trying almost the entire lineup, maybe I’ll hunt down a cheap pair and insole swap. I will say the 550s fit me perfect but the board last is so firm on those it’s painful to skate for awhile. I was hurting after! They need to make a skate version. That could be perfection!

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touching on this, multiple 480s have all felt somewhat different on foot. the first run of the burnt orange/navy/white was by far the flattest. boss colorway i felt the insole in the arch of my left foot, black and grey colorway i felt it in my right. the latter two being rather uncomfortable to wear just standing around, but not noticeable when im skating

just seemed like the insole runs up the sidewall or something, im no shoe scientist

Update here, I picked up the NB 600 due to the fuel cell in the middle and it felt way better than the 480 in that mid arch area. First session I could start to feel that arch pressure again, but it didn’t kill me. I switched the insole out based on the advice here with my NB 550 insoles and for these it seemingly resolved the issue. So for some reason it is the insole in some cases. NB figure it out please haha. Once I skate again in them I’ll update.

[kneebone]

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@rothdigga wondering if the black and olive 440 is indeed the new synth color and if the wides are synth as well? they look great so hoping they are

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Correct.  That new 440v2 black with the olive N is our new Vegan offering.  We can't "officially" tag and label them as vegan but they are 100% synthetic down to the glue used and everything.  There's some wild process legally to get it labeled as vegan and there was some super minute thing where they can't guarantee that an oil used on the machines to make the shoes 100% has no animal byproduct in them that may have residue on the shoe.  But for any rational person, these are fully vegan and all of my vegan homies (Vern, Ben from Kinetic, Jamie Owens from Closer Mag) are all skating them now.

Might want to update the NB website listing, it still has them as “suede/mesh”

[malevy]

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@rothdigga wondering if the black and olive 440 is indeed the new synth color and if the wides are synth as well? they look great so hoping they are

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Correct.  That new 440v2 black with the olive N is our new Vegan offering.  We can't "officially" tag and label them as vegan but they are 100% synthetic down to the glue used and everything.  There's some wild process legally to get it labeled as vegan and there was some super minute thing where they can't guarantee that an oil used on the machines to make the shoes 100% has no animal byproduct in them that may have residue on the shoe.  But for any rational person, these are fully vegan and all of my vegan homies (Vern, Ben from Kinetic, Jamie Owens from Closer Mag) are all skating them now.

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Might want to update the NB website listing, it still has them as “suede/mesh”

They're not on the NB site yet

edit - I'm an idiot and didn't see them 

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I've been having lots of discomfort on the soles of my feet when skating the 808. I've been skating those pretty consistently now and it's the only shoe that hurts my feet. I tried different insoles with them but nothing seems to help. I really like the shoes otherwise but the fact that my feet are in pain after wearing them for 10 minutes is not very tempting. This didnt happen when they were new but I also wore them less than now.

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The 808’s are bricks. Wish they’d update them with Fuel Cell. Whatever’s in the midsole is the most uncomfortable stuff ever. Shoe has no bounce to it.

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Must be that. I simply cant wear these, idk. Would be sick shoes with different midsole and slightly lighter. Or maybe I'll just give these a few tries and see if it works out.

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I’m in the same boat , had a pair of the wheat 808s for almost a year, will put them on for a few minutes and it’s just pain . I sized half size up too, just left shoe stretchers in them for a week+ and tried them on yesterday and there is just so much excess fabric digging into the top of my foot in the bottom of the tongue . I think I’ll finally give up on these now .

what size?

[smellsdead]

^non issue with me and 808s
half size up and my feet are fuckin bulletproof


has anyone skated/have opinions on suede vs full grain nb 600s? fit, break in, durability etc?

[oldxdad]

^non issue with me and 808s
half size up and my feet are fuckin bulletproof


has anyone skated/have opinions on suede vs full grain nb 600s? fit, break in, durability etc?

I skated the white leather 600 and they’re tanks! A little superglue on the stitched area in wear zones and you’re solid.

[Mc89]

I skated the leather 600’s and didn’t shoe goo or superglue any stitching on my first pair just to see how they wear etc.

Even once a lot of the stitching on the toe is flicked through the fantom fit holds the shape (I was shocked at how good it held the shape actually)

I agree a little super glue on the flick area and the stitching on the N and they’ll hold up really nicely.

My fav NB so far

[Shtonk]

The 440 v2 Hi has literally changed my skating. The protection and boardfeel in combination is insane after ten years in sk8 his and LRABs. Been thinking about trying the 480 high next. Could experts outline differences/similarities? Do they run similar with sizes? The 440 is too tight in the toe box for me to walk comfortably in them all day but that's what makes them so precise for skating, I love it.

[moonordie]

The 440 v2 Hi has literally changed my skating. The protection and boardfeel in combination is insane after ten years in sk8 his and LRABs. Been thinking about trying the 480 high next. Could experts outline differences/similarities? Do they run similar with sizes? The 440 is too tight in the toe box for me to walk comfortably in them all day but that's what makes them so precise for skating, I love it.

Same size, better protection and less boardfeel.

[nollieboulala]

The 440 v2 Hi has literally changed my skating. The protection and boardfeel in combination is insane after ten years in sk8 his and LRABs. Been thinking about trying the 480 high next. Could experts outline differences/similarities? Do they run similar with sizes? The 440 is too tight in the toe box for me to walk comfortably in them all day but that's what makes them so precise for skating, I love it.

480 is pretty different from 440 v2 hi. Much more padding under foot, different toe cap, overall bulkier. That said I’ve been skating both for the last year, and I switch between them without issue. I feel like 480 has better flick because of the toe design, but I like the overall feel of wearing the 440 v2 hi better. I also think the 480 is NB’s best looking shoe.

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The 440 v2 Hi has literally changed my skating. The protection and boardfeel in combination is insane after ten years in sk8 his and LRABs. Been thinking about trying the 480 high next. Could experts outline differences/similarities? Do they run similar with sizes? The 440 is too tight in the toe box for me to walk comfortably in them all day but that's what makes them so precise for skating, I love it.

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480 is pretty different from 440 v2 hi. Much more padding under foot, different toe cap, overall bulkier. That said I’ve been skating both for the last year, and I switch between them without issue. I feel like 480 has better flick because of the toe design, but I like the overall feel of wearing the 440 v2 hi better. I also think the 480 is NB’s best looking shoe.

I agree with this comment. Love the 480 look, but always end up back skating in 440V2s, personally I think it's the best shoe on the market in terms of comfort, shock absorb and still have really solid board feel. The V2 was a huge upgrade from V1 (even though I think the V1 looks better in the high).
The 480 has a roomier toe box, so I think you'll like them a lot. I have a slim foot and find the 480 is a little roomy for me, but I do still skate them. And I usually wear them around for a week before I skate them to break them in a bit. Where as the 440 V2 is just perfect out the box.

[Atiba Applebum]

Brick and Gum 600 up on Uprise

Choosing to believe it’s an Arto 358 reference.   Love it

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sorry if it's a repeat q but how's the arch support in the 600 vs the 440?

[lick_your_tail_around]

I noticed a huge difference in quality between different NB skate shoes, even in the same price range.

[Shtonk]

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The 440 v2 Hi has literally changed my skating. The protection and boardfeel in combination is insane after ten years in sk8 his and LRABs. Been thinking about trying the 480 high next. Could experts outline differences/similarities? Do they run similar with sizes? The 440 is too tight in the toe box for me to walk comfortably in them all day but that's what makes them so precise for skating, I love it.

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480 is pretty different from 440 v2 hi. Much more padding under foot, different toe cap, overall bulkier. That said I’ve been skating both for the last year, and I switch between them without issue. I feel like 480 has better flick because of the toe design, but I like the overall feel of wearing the 440 v2 hi better. I also think the 480 is NB’s best looking shoe.

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I agree with this comment. Love the 480 look, but always end up back skating in 440V2s, personally I think it's the best shoe on the market in terms of comfort, shock absorb and still have really solid board feel. The V2 was a huge upgrade from V1 (even though I think the V1 looks better in the high).
The 480 has a roomier toe box, so I think you'll like them a lot. I have a slim foot and find the 480 is a little roomy for me, but I do still skate them. And I usually wear them around for a week before I skate them to break them in a bit. Where as the 440 V2 is just perfect out the box.

Cheers guys, might actually stick with the 440 then, I've already gotten over how much I dislike them aesthetically and it's all worth it for how much I prefer the feeling of skating in them. No reason to sacrifice that for the marginally less dad-looking 480s. That being said some brown or all black 440s would be AMAZING!

[Rick Trapasso]

The 600 makes me want to risk it all and skate low tops again

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The 600 makes me want to risk it all and skate low tops again

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I hit my left inner ankle no less than FIVE times over the last 2 days...440V2 lows...each time I thought "why didn't I get the highs...."

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these shoes look goofy as fuck and i’m not even gonna talk about that cuff

the laces twirling up are wild too this photo is crazy hard to look at

[Atiba Applebum]

Feel like I’m just now seeing a bunch of cool Frankie 417 colorways.   I was wondering how I missed them, but maybe no one posts them in here because they’re vulcs?

The tan/olive one is really nice and the brown/blue one is really good too.   

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The 600 makes me want to risk it all and skate low tops again

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I hit my left inner ankle no less than FIVE times over the last 2 days...440V2 lows...each time I thought "why didn't I get the highs...."

Protection from that kinda stuff is nice too, but rolls/sprains are what I'm most worried about.

I know everyone says heel lock and drop are the most important factors, but it seems like the high tops just do a better job preventing those injuries for me. Probably because I'm so tall and skinny.

[Shtonk]

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The 600 makes me want to risk it all and skate low tops again

... fuck

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I hit my left inner ankle no less than FIVE times over the last 2 days...440V2 lows...each time I thought "why didn't I get the highs...."

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Protection from that kinda stuff is nice too, but rolls/sprains are what I'm most worried about.

I know everyone says heel lock and drop are the most important factors, but it seems like the high tops just do a better job preventing those injuries for me. Probably because I'm so tall and skinny.

I'm no sports scientist but I think everyone is right. Skate sized high tops don't look like they'll do jack shit against rolling your ankle when it actually happens. You'd have to go hiking boot type of high at which point good luck with your flick. But I totally get the placebo effect, its why I got into high tops as well. Took the tail to the inner ankle twice while relearning blunt fakies and although the 440v2 his are quite thin there, they saved the session on both occasions. But unless youre a wannabe Primitive skater, they are hard to look at. If there was a truly all black colourway of the 440v2 his, sole, upper, logo, everything, I'd buy five pairs immediately.

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Waiting for the 440 v1 trail (the brown ones) since my needs are pretty basic. Wonder how do they skate, anybody tried them?

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Let me know how they fit, been eying a pair.

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Hey @rocklobster , just got them. Ordered TTS and they feel super good, maybe even a little bigger than usual but I guess is normal since trail shoes have to be roomier (also I'm wearing thin socks).
They feel super good and the look is pretty nice.

I do appreciate the fact that in a world of style-zombies and hipster fashion victims, NB set out to redefine "form follows function". But still...

[Xen]

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The 600 makes me want to risk it all and skate low tops again

... fuck

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I hit my left inner ankle no less than FIVE times over the last 2 days...440V2 lows...each time I thought "why didn't I get the highs...."

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Protection from that kinda stuff is nice too, but rolls/sprains are what I'm most worried about.

I know everyone says heel lock and drop are the most important factors, but it seems like the high tops just do a better job preventing those injuries for me. Probably because I'm so tall and skinny.

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The 600 makes me want to risk it all and skate low tops again

... fuck

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I hit my left inner ankle no less than FIVE times over the last 2 days...440V2 lows...each time I thought "why didn't I get the highs...."

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Protection from that kinda stuff is nice too, but rolls/sprains are what I'm most worried about.

I know everyone says heel lock and drop are the most important factors, but it seems like the high tops just do a better job preventing those injuries for me. Probably because I'm so tall and skinny.

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I'm no sports scientist but I think everyone is right. Skate sized high tops don't look like they'll do jack shit against rolling your ankle when it actually happens. You'd have to go hiking boot type of high at which point good luck with your flick. But I totally get the placebo effect, its why I got into high tops as well. Took the tail to the inner ankle twice while relearning blunt fakies and although the 440v2 his are quite thin there, they saved the session on both occasions. But unless youre a wannabe Primitive skater, they are hard to look at. If there was a truly all black colourway of the 440v2 his, sole, upper, logo, everything, I'd buy five pairs immediately.

It might be this thread I can’t remember, but I did a little quick write up on mids and highs saying they don’t actually prevent sprains. Google “do height tops prevent sprains“ and read for yourself.

However, they do help with rolls, snake bites and ankle bone bashes.

[CarcassToss]

The 600 has been an amazing show. Slightly beefed up 440 or toned down 1010 depending on how you look at it, incredible durability, pretty much a no complaint show once broken in.

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these shoes look goofy as fuck and i’m not even gonna talk about that cuff

the laces twirling up are wild too this photo is crazy hard to look at

Let's just assume that [hopefully] this is to just show off the new shoe and that going out in public with that fit isn't the intention for as we all know, tall cuffs should only be rocked if the denim is selvedge or raw...and, that tongue is in no way big or poofy enough, to be placed in front of pants, regardless if cuffed or stacked.

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these shoes look goofy as fuck and i’m not even gonna talk about that cuff

the laces twirling up are wild too this photo is crazy hard to look at

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Let's just assume that [hopefully] this is to just show off the new shoe and that going out in public with that fit isn't the intention for as we all know, tall cuffs should only be rocked if the denim is selvedge or raw...and, that tongue is in no way big or poofy enough, to be placed in front of pants, regardless if cuffed or stacked.

Since a disclaimer is needed (apparently): pic was taken at work so my shoes were not those ones which I put solely for the pic.
So pretty much is how @Xen said.

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The 600 has been an amazing show. Slightly beefed up 440 or toned down 1010 depending on how you look at it, incredible durability, pretty much a no complaint show once broken in.

tts?

[moonordie]

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The 600 has been an amazing show. Slightly beefed up 440 or toned down 1010 depending on how you look at it, incredible durability, pretty much a no complaint show once broken in.

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tts?

Both, 1010 and 600, TTS for me.