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Requesting help from Slap pals.
One of my VX1000 got the classic jammed tape where the tape deck do not go out entirely.

How do I extract the tape, and can I fix this ?
Im not asking for send it to Kerry but for some experiences and instructions to do it myself.
Thanks a lot !
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had the problem once and i managed to open the left shell of the vx. disconnected it, reconnected it without putting the shell back. turn on the camera, and the tape dexk went down. then i put the vx back together and it worked as intended.
i might have been lucky but it's worth a try.

Merci Romain !

I just tear the left part down, got rid of the whole the tape band, and I had to remove the tape deck without disconnecting it to have the tape finally out.
I made a few tests and everything works now.

I have another issue with this camera that someone may have had :
Whenever I set my aperture to something lower than F5.6 the image gets blurry. Not out-of-focus blurry, but more of like a foggy effect. This happens with whatever shutter speed.

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show us an example picture of the fogginess.

does your lens seem clean ?

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show us an example picture of the fogginess.

does your lens seem clean ?

Here is a video showing the defect.
Focus is auto
Shutter speed is auto (well it is not set, so I guess ?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFkli6pcJVo

Edit: auto shutter is OFF in the settings.
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I've never seen that, but i guess if you open the lens and clean it from the inside, there's a good chance to get rid of the fogginess

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I had something similar where the whole VAP unit was loose and I only noticed when it starting looking soft at night. If I pushed the whole front end in it would go into focus properly, which was an okay workaround for that day, but I ended up just sending it back to get fixed since I'd just bought it.

Here's what it looked like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92yj-ylDAY8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyRSJj6phy4

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Re: VX1000 General Discussion (gear/set-ups, filming/editing, tips/advice, etc.)
« Reply #546 on: November 01, 2020, 01:10:33 AM »
I had something similar where the whole VAP unit was loose and I only noticed when it starting looking soft at night. If I pushed the whole front end in it would go into focus properly, which was an okay workaround for that day, but I ended up just sending it back to get fixed since I'd just bought it.

This very much looks like the same defect, even if my VAP unit isn't loose.
I will try to open it and whether clean it or check if something might have moved in there.

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Re: VX1000 General Discussion (gear/set-ups, filming/editing, tips/advice, etc.)
« Reply #547 on: November 05, 2020, 11:12:05 AM »
Anybody aware of a rough going rate for an MK1 century optic lens?

See them going for upwards of $1000 these days on Ig accounts like VX1000MARKET. even saw one on ebay for $2000 lmao

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Re: VX1000 General Discussion (gear/set-ups, filming/editing, tips/advice, etc.)
« Reply #548 on: November 05, 2020, 11:39:04 PM »
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Anybody aware of a rough going rate for an MK1 century optic lens?
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See them going for upwards of $1000 these days on Ig accounts like VX1000MARKET. even saw one on ebay for $2000 lmao

wouldn't send another dollar to vxKookmarket
Yea prices of MK1's are around 1200+

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Re: VX1000 General Discussion (gear/set-ups, filming/editing, tips/advice, etc.)
« Reply #549 on: November 13, 2020, 10:50:49 AM »
Hi, so my repaired vx1000 (the tape wouldn't eject), arrived yesterday and it was fully working with no problems.
Today I tried to film something and after I've inserted the battery into the VX and tried turning it on it just beeped and showed a full battery icon but nothing else worked.
First thing I thought was that the temperature was a bit too cold for the camera (it was around 7C = 44.6F).
But when I came back home and waited for it to get to room temperature it still wouldn't turn on :(.
I've tried multiple batteries and nothing helped. Any suggestions?

also sorry for my english, I'm from Slovakia

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Re: VX1000 General Discussion (gear/set-ups, filming/editing, tips/advice, etc.)
« Reply #550 on: November 13, 2020, 06:23:53 PM »
Hi, so my repaired vx1000 (the tape wouldn't eject), arrived yesterday and it was fully working with no problems.
Today I tried to film something and after I've inserted the battery into the VX and tried turning it on it just beeped and showed a full battery icon but nothing else worked.
First thing I thought was that the temperature was a bit too cold for the camera (it was around 7C = 44.6F).
But when I came back home and waited for it to get to room temperature it still wouldn't turn on :(.
I've tried multiple batteries and nothing helped. Any suggestions?

also sorry for my english, I'm from Slovakia

That's rough. Sorry to hear. VX1000's are notorious for hating cold weather. It's a long shot, but is your VX on autolock (switch below the power)? Are you able to see a picture through the viewfinder, or is it black? Are you able to change the program type, shutter, aperature, white balance? Does anything show on the rear door when you try to change any of these settings?

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Re: VX1000 General Discussion (gear/set-ups, filming/editing, tips/advice, etc.)
« Reply #551 on: November 14, 2020, 02:43:59 AM »
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Hi, so my repaired vx1000 (the tape wouldn't eject), arrived yesterday and it was fully working with no problems.
Today I tried to film something and after I've inserted the battery into the VX and tried turning it on it just beeped and showed a full battery icon but nothing else worked.
First thing I thought was that the temperature was a bit too cold for the camera (it was around 7C = 44.6F).
But when I came back home and waited for it to get to room temperature it still wouldn't turn on :(.
I've tried multiple batteries and nothing helped. Any suggestions?

also sorry for my english, I'm from Slovakia
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That's rough. Sorry to hear. VX1000's are notorious for hating cold weather. It's a long shot, but is your VX on autolock (switch below the power)? Are you able to see a picture through the viewfinder, or is it black? Are you able to change the program type, shutter, aperature, white balance? Does anything show on the rear door when you try to change any of these settings?

It's on manual. There's no picture, just the battery indicator. I can change the program type, shutter speed, white balance, but not the aperature. Yes the icons pop up but I don't think it does anything, also the menu doesn't work.

I guess I'll be sending it back for another repair.

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Re: VX1000 General Discussion (gear/set-ups, filming/editing, tips/advice, etc.)
« Reply #552 on: November 17, 2020, 05:25:42 AM »
My friend's board smashed into my fisheye this week-end, poping of the front of the VAP unit and scratching my brand new MKI when it hit the ground. I feel so bad because I have a Tadashi filter and it was in my bag but I just didn't put it on...

Do you guys know if Century is still selling front elements ?

Also, I glued my VAP unit back after removing the front lens and let it dry overnight with my camera standing vertically.
Still, there was a little fog in the inner lens this morning, so I didn't touch and let it until get to work.

If I fucked it up, is there any way to fix this ?

Thanks for your help, I feel like a total noob...

Edit: pictures for reference


« Last Edit: November 17, 2020, 05:34:35 AM by Thomas »
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Re: VX1000 General Discussion (gear/set-ups, filming/editing, tips/advice, etc.)
« Reply #553 on: November 17, 2020, 06:12:01 AM »
Dang, sorry to hear. I've always heard never to use any glue on broken lens mounts for that exact reason (glue causing foggy internal lenses) and to always use electrical tape instead. I'm not sure if it's fixable honestly, but I would suggest hitting up Video Electronics or a similar repair place for their insight on that one. You could also just try breaking it where the glue is and cleaning it yourself.

As far as the lens goes, I believe Century is only replacing front elements themselves, and charging a bunch for the labour on top of the glass itself. I think I read on here it was something like $600 or $800 for that, but honestly it's probably worth it since once they're out of stock it'll be impossible to fix it.

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Re: VX1000 General Discussion (gear/set-ups, filming/editing, tips/advice, etc.)
« Reply #554 on: November 17, 2020, 11:32:54 AM »
it depends of the type of glue you use and the quantity.

I always used gorilla glue in small quantities and never had a problem. It's better to glue your bayo in 2 or 3 times to avoid too much fume. I even glue the bayo part of the vx before it's even broken to make sure it doesn't fall.
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« Reply #555 on: November 19, 2020, 04:20:29 PM »
Ahhh shit man. I always used hot glue so that it doesn't get fumes on the lens

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« Reply #556 on: November 19, 2020, 11:59:43 PM »
Alright so I sent my camera to VX doc, I hope he will be able to fix it.

As for the fisheye, Century sent me a service form for repair.
The front element is 295$ and the labor rate is 150$/hour...
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« Reply #557 on: November 20, 2020, 04:47:36 AM »
Alright so I sent my camera to VX doc, I hope he will be able to fix it.

As for the fisheye, Century sent me a service form for repair.
The front element is 295$ and the labor rate is 150$/hour...

damn pricy. Surprised they are still doing front elements.

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Re: VX1000 General Discussion (gear/set-ups, filming/editing, tips/advice, etc.)
« Reply #558 on: November 20, 2020, 05:41:41 AM »
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Alright so I sent my camera to VX doc, I hope he will be able to fix it.

As for the fisheye, Century sent me a service form for repair.
The front element is 295$ and the labor rate is 150$/hour...
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damn pricy. Surprised they are still doing front elements.

They do but you cannot buy them as spare parts: you have to send your lens for repair.
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Re: VX1000 General Discussion (gear/set-ups, filming/editing, tips/advice, etc.)
« Reply #559 on: November 20, 2020, 06:26:03 AM »
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Alright so I sent my camera to VX doc, I hope he will be able to fix it.

As for the fisheye, Century sent me a service form for repair.
The front element is 295$ and the labor rate is 150$/hour...
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damn pricy. Surprised they are still doing front elements.
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They do but you cannot buy them as spare parts: you have to send your lens for repair.

I wonder why you have to send in the lens for repair since replacing the front element is easy? Do they only have a low quantity so they want to prevent resellers like vx1000market from buying them all and doing an extreme markup. Take away liability from us DIYers from damaging the lens further? Or simply to milk some extra cash by charging alot for them repair it themselves? Maybe a combination of all?

Also, if you send in a repair to replace the front element, do they send the scratched one back with the new or do they keep it?

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« Reply #560 on: November 20, 2020, 06:55:44 AM »
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Alright so I sent my camera to VX doc, I hope he will be able to fix it.

As for the fisheye, Century sent me a service form for repair.
The front element is 295$ and the labor rate is 150$/hour...
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damn pricy. Surprised they are still doing front elements.
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They do but you cannot buy them as spare parts: you have to send your lens for repair.
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I wonder why you have to send in the lens for repair since replacing the front element is easy? Do they only have a low quantity so they want to prevent resellers like vx1000market from buying them all and doing an extreme markup. Take away liability from us DIYers from damaging the lens further? Or simply to milk some extra cash by charging alot for them repair it themselves? Maybe a combination of all?

Also, if you send in a repair to replace the front element, do they send the scratched one back with the new or do they keep it?

That is actually a good question !
I'm still not sure what to do with my lens...
Regarding the price, I don't think there will be better deal for a brand new front element.
@vx_fisheye_sales had one last week, and someone offered him 950$ for it...

This is what they told me :
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Hello Thomas,

Yes, we do need the lens to be sent in for repair. Please find our service form attached for you to complete and ship with your lens in need of service. Please ship the lens along with this form to 640 South Glenwood Place, Burbank, CA 91506.

We will assess the lens and provide you a quote for the repair. Just for your information, our labor rate is $150/hour, and parts needed are to be determined. Once approved we will be able to provide an estimated date. We only have a few elements left for servicing lenses, please send your fisheye in as son as possible. The element is $295.

Please let us know if you have any questions.

Thank you,
 
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« Reply #561 on: November 20, 2020, 07:47:00 AM »
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Alright so I sent my camera to VX doc, I hope he will be able to fix it.

As for the fisheye, Century sent me a service form for repair.
The front element is 295$ and the labor rate is 150$/hour...
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damn pricy. Surprised they are still doing front elements.
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They do but you cannot buy them as spare parts: you have to send your lens for repair.
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I wonder why you have to send in the lens for repair since replacing the front element is easy? Do they only have a low quantity so they want to prevent resellers like vx1000market from buying them all and doing an extreme markup. Take away liability from us DIYers from damaging the lens further? Or simply to milk some extra cash by charging alot for them repair it themselves? Maybe a combination of all?

Also, if you send in a repair to replace the front element, do they send the scratched one back with the new or do they keep it?
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That is actually a good question !
I'm still not sure what to do with my lens...
Regarding the price, I don't think there will be better deal for a brand new front element.
@vx_fisheye_sales had one last week, and someone offered him 950$ for it...

This is what they told me :
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Hello Thomas,

Yes, we do need the lens to be sent in for repair. Please find our service form attached for you to complete and ship with your lens in need of service. Please ship the lens along with this form to 640 South Glenwood Place, Burbank, CA 91506.

We will assess the lens and provide you a quote for the repair. Just for your information, our labor rate is $150/hour, and parts needed are to be determined. Once approved we will be able to provide an estimated date. We only have a few elements left for servicing lenses, please send your fisheye in as son as possible. The element is $295.

Please let us know if you have any questions.

Thank you,
 
Maral Mirzayan
Business Operations Manager
Schneider Optics, Inc.
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If they sent back the old front element then you can use it as a backup if it's not completely destroyed. I'd feel robbed if they kept it. Paying $800+ for the lens and an additional couple hundred bucks to replace a part of it.

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« Reply #562 on: November 21, 2020, 06:19:55 AM »
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Alright so I sent my camera to VX doc, I hope he will be able to fix it.

As for the fisheye, Century sent me a service form for repair.
The front element is 295$ and the labor rate is 150$/hour...
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damn pricy. Surprised they are still doing front elements.
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They do but you cannot buy them as spare parts: you have to send your lens for repair.
[close]

I wonder why you have to send in the lens for repair since replacing the front element is easy? Do they only have a low quantity so they want to prevent resellers like vx1000market from buying them all and doing an extreme markup. Take away liability from us DIYers from damaging the lens further? Or simply to milk some extra cash by charging alot for them repair it themselves? Maybe a combination of all?

Also, if you send in a repair to replace the front element, do they send the scratched one back with the new or do they keep it?
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That is actually a good question !
I'm still not sure what to do with my lens...
Regarding the price, I don't think there will be better deal for a brand new front element.
@vx_fisheye_sales had one last week, and someone offered him 950$ for it...

This is what they told me :
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Hello Thomas,

Yes, we do need the lens to be sent in for repair. Please find our service form attached for you to complete and ship with your lens in need of service. Please ship the lens along with this form to 640 South Glenwood Place, Burbank, CA 91506.

We will assess the lens and provide you a quote for the repair. Just for your information, our labor rate is $150/hour, and parts needed are to be determined. Once approved we will be able to provide an estimated date. We only have a few elements left for servicing lenses, please send your fisheye in as son as possible. The element is $295.

Please let us know if you have any questions.

Thank you,
 
Maral Mirzayan
Business Operations Manager
Schneider Optics, Inc.
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If they sent back the old front element then you can use it as a backup if it's not completely destroyed. I'd feel robbed if they kept it. Paying $800+ for the lens and an additional couple hundred bucks to replace a part of it.

Thats a good question. You got me wondering now if they do keep it or not?

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« Reply #563 on: November 22, 2020, 12:41:19 AM »
They just told me that they will send me the old front element back along with the repaired fisheye.
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« Reply #564 on: November 22, 2020, 06:25:27 AM »
They just told me that they will send me the old front element back along with the repaired fisheye.

Okay that makes more sense.

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« Reply #565 on: November 22, 2020, 08:03:42 PM »
Dang, sorry to hear. I've always heard never to use any glue on broken lens mounts for that exact reason (glue causing foggy internal lenses) and to always use electrical tape instead.

I took a break from filming for 8 years and let a buddy use my VX for a few of those years. Long story short - the front of the camera got ripped off and he glued it back on resulting in the foggy internal lenses you mentioned. I didn't care at the time because I was totally over filming, but now that I'm into it again I'm pretty bummed. No matter what is done, the image always looks slightly out of focus due to the fog. Super frustrating and now looking for a broken VX with a good VAP so that I can replace the VAP on mine.

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« Reply #566 on: November 22, 2020, 09:24:36 PM »
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Dang, sorry to hear. I've always heard never to use any glue on broken lens mounts for that exact reason (glue causing foggy internal lenses) and to always use electrical tape instead.
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I took a break from filming for 8 years and let a buddy use my VX for a few of those years. Long story short - the front of the camera got ripped off and he glued it back on resulting in the foggy internal lenses you mentioned. I didn't care at the time because I was totally over filming, but now that I'm into it again I'm pretty bummed. No matter what is done, the image always looks slightly out of focus due to the fog. Super frustrating and now looking for a broken VX with a good VAP so that I can replace the VAP on mine.

Yea I have always used some sort of jb weld or 2 part epoxy. I just did it on my new vx

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Dang, sorry to hear. I've always heard never to use any glue on broken lens mounts for that exact reason (glue causing foggy internal lenses) and to always use electrical tape instead.
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I took a break from filming for 8 years and let a buddy use my VX for a few of those years. Long story short - the front of the camera got ripped off and he glued it back on resulting in the foggy internal lenses you mentioned. I didn't care at the time because I was totally over filming, but now that I'm into it again I'm pretty bummed. No matter what is done, the image always looks slightly out of focus due to the fog. Super frustrating and now looking for a broken VX with a good VAP so that I can replace the VAP on mine.

This is so frustrating because it's just fog but in the end you have to replace the whole VAP unit...
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From what i've heard:

watch out because the VAP unit is linked to one of the cards, and if you just change the VAP without configuring the card, you might have parfocal problems (your focus point moves when you zoom).

i believe there are infos about it in the vx1000 service manual.
the easiest option would be to send it to kerry at VE.

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out of pure curiosity, how much would that be to ship a vx to kerry at VE from europe? have you already done this bataaard?