The HD 4:3 thread

[Beltran]

GH5 4K/60p Anamorphic 4:3, Lecia 10-25mm and Rokinon 7.5mm Fisheye, RØDE VideoMicro
Uploaded to YouTube in ProRes HQ

Try to turn off the automatic gain control for the sound and lower the input gain. Skate sounds will feel much better.

[spicearoni]

Finished up my lil 4:3 HD/film project! Ended up picking up a vx1000 with a Sony mrc1 after getting pretty annoyed with setting up the GH5 every time. Went a little overboard with all the cameras, but it was a fun project to film/edit!
Time Well Spent -

A little promo for a video I'm making that's packed with different formats, but super laid back content. Park footage, street footage, lots of camping footage. Just anything I can film in 2020 and put together into a project..
Shot with a GH5/Canon XA35/Arriflex 16S, and a Canon 814 Super 8 cam. Such a blast messing with all these!

[bataaard]

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i think this was brought up but can't quite find it,

what's the go to way to mount a mk1 and hmc150? step up/down rings? if yes what size?

thank you

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The sk8 rat solution was to grind down a 72mm spacer to half length and jb weld to the bayo. I did mine a bit differently. I bought an 82-72 step down and jb welded the bayo inside of the step down ring. Cheers!

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would this damage your mk1? as i still intend on setting it on the vx1 as well.

thank you

non destructive option:
https://sk8mmllc.myshopify.com/products/universal-mk1-fisheye-adapter

i didn't test it but it seems good

[Jordan Wiens]

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i think this was brought up but can't quite find it,

what's the go to way to mount a mk1 and hmc150? step up/down rings? if yes what size?

thank you

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The sk8 rat solution was to grind down a 72mm spacer to half length and jb weld to the bayo. I did mine a bit differently. I bought an 82-72 step down and jb welded the bayo inside of the step down ring. Cheers!

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would this damage your mk1? as i still intend on setting it on the vx1 as well.

thank you

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non destructive option:
https://sk8mmllc.myshopify.com/products/universal-mk1-fisheye-adapter

i didn't test it but it seems good

neither did the creator either apparently. seems kinda sus. only render images and no test footage. especially when the distance from fisheye to camera is so specific for it to be able to focus on some cameras.

[doyle]

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i think this was brought up but can't quite find it,

what's the go to way to mount a mk1 and hmc150? step up/down rings? if yes what size?

thank you

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The sk8 rat solution was to grind down a 72mm spacer to half length and jb weld to the bayo. I did mine a bit differently. I bought an 82-72 step down and jb welded the bayo inside of the step down ring. Cheers!

[close]

would this damage your mk1? as i still intend on setting it on the vx1 as well.

thank you

[close]

non destructive option:
https://sk8mmllc.myshopify.com/products/universal-mk1-fisheye-adapter

i didn't test it but it seems good

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neither did the creator either apparently. seems kinda sus. only render images and no test footage. especially when the distance from fisheye to camera is so specific for it to be able to focus on some cameras.

Got an email on Monday saying mine has shipped, so hopefully we'll see how it really is soon!

[Frontsidefisheyetofakie]

Just picked up a GH4, pretty much ready to go suck some souls. Curious what other filmers have set up for settings/recording formats/lens

My set up is

GH5 small rig cage and rhode shot gun mic
GH4 - rokinon 7.5mm fish/meike 3.5mm fish
Picture settings CINELIKE V
4k 30fps anamorphic 4:3

What yall got set up?

[Thejumpoff]

Thanks for the replies @bataaard @suckmadeck @Jordan Wiens

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So I'd say step down to 26mm if that's even possible? If it isn't I'd say the lower the number the better

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Couldn't find any decent looking fish smaller than 37, so definitely gonna grab the Opteka 37mm. just unsure of how many spacers it'll take. I'll be experimenting and will report back.

**experimenting later, cause the TM-700 just showed up with a bunch of scratches on the lens -_- buying stuff online is such a pain in the ass lmao

I bought essentially the same setup. An hs-700 and an opteka 37mm. Also have a Sony ms907. Everything for under 350 and it looks great in my opinion. I have the fisheye with no spacers just the 46-37 step down ring and putting into a 4:3 time line gives it perfect vig with no extra cropping. Still waiting for snow to melt to get some test footage.

[dipped]

I‘m curious as to how you mounted the ms907 to the camera, would like to know as i‘m also thinking about getting it for my ax700.

[Thejumpoff]

I‘m curious as to how you mounted the ms907 to the camera, would like to know as i‘m also thinking about getting it for my ax700.

I used a mic stand mount that I cut down and taped to handle made out of two Camera L brackets and then secured it with just a piece of electrical tape. The cord is very long and not interchangeable so I wound it up and taped it to the handle. It’s not the best but it works fine.

[doyle]

Universal MK1 adapter came in, here's a little comparison:



Here are some screenshots if you want a closer look:
(if you right click -> copy image address -> paste into browser and remove the "l" before the .png at the end of the URL you can see the full HD res)


VX1000 MK1


XA11 MK1 (fully zoomed out, cropped to 4:3)


XA11 MK1 (fully zoomed out, cropped to 4:3, scaled up to 115%)


XA11 MK1 (zoomed in-camera, cropped to 4:3)


GH5 Canon 8-15mm (anamorphic mode, fully zoomed out, scaled down to ~53%)

Definitely not ideal testing conditions, but when I've got some time I'll do a proper skating one - first impressions are pretty good!

[CossRooper]

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Thanks for the replies @bataaard @suckmadeck @Jordan Wiens

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So I'd say step down to 26mm if that's even possible? If it isn't I'd say the lower the number the better

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Couldn't find any decent looking fish smaller than 37, so definitely gonna grab the Opteka 37mm. just unsure of how many spacers it'll take. I'll be experimenting and will report back.

**experimenting later, cause the TM-700 just showed up with a bunch of scratches on the lens -_- buying stuff online is such a pain in the ass lmao

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I bought essentially the same setup. An hs-700 and an opteka 37mm. Also have a Sony ms907. Everything for under 350 and it looks great in my opinion. I have the fisheye with no spacers just the 46-37 step down ring and putting into a 4:3 time line gives it perfect vig with no extra cropping. Still waiting for snow to melt to get some test footage.

Looks so sick! I need to experiment more because my vig is pretty soft on the edges; yours looks very crisp. Maybe I can ditch one of the spacers.

I like the handle rig too; i had to get creative.

and yeah, anyone looking at these older gen Panasonic cameras: You're gonna need an external mic. Onboard is actual trash.

I'll post some pics of my handle and vig when I'm back at my PC!

[Thejumpoff]

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Thanks for the replies @bataaard @suckmadeck @Jordan Wiens

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So I'd say step down to 26mm if that's even possible? If it isn't I'd say the lower the number the better

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Couldn't find any decent looking fish smaller than 37, so definitely gonna grab the Opteka 37mm. just unsure of how many spacers it'll take. I'll be experimenting and will report back.

**experimenting later, cause the TM-700 just showed up with a bunch of scratches on the lens -_- buying stuff online is such a pain in the ass lmao

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I bought essentially the same setup. An hs-700 and an opteka 37mm. Also have a Sony ms907. Everything for under 350 and it looks great in my opinion. I have the fisheye with no spacers just the 46-37 step down ring and putting into a 4:3 time line gives it perfect vig with no extra cropping. Still waiting for snow to melt to get some test footage.

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Looks so sick! I need to experiment more because my vig is pretty soft on the edges; yours looks very crisp. Maybe I can ditch one of the spacers.

I like the handle rig too; i had to get creative.

and yeah, anyone looking at these older gen Panasonic cameras: You're gonna need an external mic. Onboard is actual trash.

I'll post some pics of my handle and vig when I'm back at my PC!

Yea try it with just the 46-37 step down and no spacers. I noticed using any spacers made the vig a lot less sharp

[Thejumpoff]

Saw this example of using the new mk1 adapter on an ax700.

[CossRooper]

HDC-TM700 w/ Opteka 37mm cropped to 4:3

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Yea try it with just the 46-37 step down and no spacers. I noticed using any spacers made the vig a lot less sharp

Thanks for this!! Just the step down was the move.

This was even slightly out of focus and it's already way better

[bataaard]

Saw this example of using the new mk1 adapter on an ax700.

I tested it yesterday, it's really good, feels sturdy aswell.

[edssexTOY]

New Ryan Lay part's 4:3 HD looks great. Anyone know Eric Danescu's setup?

[undergroundvisions]

Sony AX100/ modded Nikon FC-E9:



I modded this more securely than the original JB welded spacer method. After cutting the tube off, I filed the back of the housing down to the inner lock-ring threads, then screwed a male to male coupling ring to those threads from the outside, then stepped that up to 62mm. Came out way better than I expected.

Edit: No idea why it isn't letting me post the photo, but here's the link:
https://imgur.com/a/IGcMNIr

[absolutebastard]

Hi guys, love all the experimentation going on in this group! Just wanted to share a film I've been shooting for the past year with the Canon XF200 and screw mount MK1.

[mostlyslappies]

Hi guys, love all the experimentation going on in this group! Just wanted to share a film I've been shooting for the past year with the Canon XF200 and screw mount MK1.

Very sick vid, and that footage looks incredible.

[Jordan Wiens]

Hi guys, love all the experimentation going on in this group! Just wanted to share a film I've been shooting for the past year with the Canon XF200 and screw mount MK1.

looked so good! if it wasnt for the audio i wouldve mistook it for upscaled vx footage. i have one of the rare screw mk1's too. eventually want to pick up the xf400/405 if i find one at a good price.

[CossRooper]

Hi guys, love all the experimentation going on in this group! Just wanted to share a film I've been shooting for the past year with the Canon XF200 and screw mount MK1.

wow. insanely great clip/crazy skating (+the leon track!!!) and stoked you posted it up in here.

[P2PIMP]

lurked this thread for a few months while figuring out the best option to make my set up work for 4:3. i filmed this edit for three weeks while testing out the meike 3.5mm on a panasonic af-100. the intro was filmed with trv-900 and the HD long lens is a hvx-200.

[Tonypimpskin]

Not the best skating but this was shot on a HPX170 mounted with a 58mm Fisheye with a x2 72mm spacer and a 72mm-58mm Step down ring. With a 3840 x 2880 Resolution in FCPX some clips were shot on a 5d mark ii just cropped in post with no vig on Fish clips

P.S Editing is not my strong point and i dont think im good at it 

[JMSneep]

lurked this thread for a few months while figuring out the best option to make my set up work for 4:3. i filmed this edit for three weeks while testing out the meike 3.5mm on a panasonic af-100. the intro was filmed with trv-900 and the HD long lens is a hvx-200.

Looking good! Also that backside 50-50 ender looks so insane!

[southphillytapwater]

My buddy does 3D design and printing and has connections with aluminum manufacturers. He helped me design and make an HPX/MK1 bayoring over the last few months and they finally came in.




Includes a rubber spacer so the MK1 inner element won't scratch your HPX lens.


Cropped image.


Uncropped image.

Footage:


I run a small filming-based Instagram account called The Viewfinder Journal -- @viewfinderjournal_
Announcement post:

@deathlens_fisheye_sales is  helping me sell them.
His announcement post:

My store link: https://thesellerdoor.com/shop/hpx-mk1-bayonet-adapter/
Deathlens store link: https://www.deathlensfisheyesales.com/product-page/hpx-hmc-bayo-ring-for-mk1-1

I'm really stoked how they came out. Works exactly how a bayoring should. As people have noted before, it's best to crop the image in post-production. You get much higher quality results than zooming in camera. Also, someone else said before that the MK1 has softer glass than the MK2 so the image isn't as sharp. I personally don't really notice or mind how it looks but I've had people DM me saying the footage looks like shit. It's all preference.

[yeayeaman]

[mostlyslappies]

Also, someone else said before that the MK1 has softer glass than the MK2 so the image isn't as sharp. I personally don't really notice or mind how it looks but I've had people DM me saying the footage looks like shit. It's all preference.

If you keep your aperture narrow (F5.6 and higher), the footage looks way more consistent. I also sharpen my fisheye footage just a tiny bit in post.

Been using the MK1/HPX setup since this past fall and I'm really happy with how most of the footage has come out. I have an edit coming out fairly soon so I'll throw it up in this thread. I've been using a homemade (Shane Auckland -style) adapter but I have one of your bayo ring adapters on the way because I'd like to not have to fuck with threads anymore.

[Thejumpoff]

Universal MK1 adapter came in, here's a little comparison:



Here are some screenshots if you want a closer look:
(if you right click -> copy image address -> paste into browser and remove the "l" before the .png at the end of the URL you can see the full HD res)


Definitely not ideal testing conditions, but when I've got some time I'll do a proper skating one - first impressions are pretty good!

Have you had any issues with shaky vig even with the image stabilizer off on the xa11? I ask because I have a canon g40 with an opteka and it looks great but the vig is a tiny bit shaky with the IS turned off, which is driving me crazy. Figured I would ask somebody with a similar canon camera before taking it to shop to see if I have a loose camera sensor or something.

[Jordan Wiens]

[Burton Ernie]

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lurked this thread for a few months while figuring out the best option to make my set up work for 4:3. i filmed this edit for three weeks while testing out the meike 3.5mm on a panasonic af-100. the intro was filmed with trv-900 and the HD long lens is a hvx-200.

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Looking good! Also that backside 50-50 ender looks so insane!

That ender is a serious Tulsa banger! The back smith was beautiful too. Sick vid.