Skateboarding conspiracies thread

[Atiba Applebum]

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Major skate video music supervision is less about finding new/obscure/lesser known songs and more about avoiding DMCA issues/having to pay too much for rights to a song.

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This isn’t even a conspiracy it’s just true..

Has it always been true that they sort out music rights?   I don’t think someone was ever hired just to find good jams

[Slap’s Too Sensitive]

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Major skate video music supervision is less about finding new/obscure/lesser known songs and more about avoiding DMCA issues/having to pay too much for rights to a song.

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This isn’t even a conspiracy it’s just true..

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Has it always been true that they sort out music rights?   I don’t think someone was ever hired just to find good jams

It’s only true for the internet age where everyone is uploading their shit to iTunes/ Instagram/ YouTube/ etc where the big three labels who own everything can readily strike projects down if they haven’t paid for the rights. The responsibility of securing the rights goes to whoever’s tasked with editing the project, which is oftentimes the filmer too. Back in the VHS/ early DVD days no one gave a shit about paying money for rights, bc what was the likelihood of a big mainstream label coming across a skate video in the 90’s?

[Vomit Lust]

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Major skate video music supervision is less about finding new/obscure/lesser known songs and more about avoiding DMCA issues/having to pay too much for rights to a song.

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This isn’t even a conspiracy it’s just true..

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Has it always been true that they sort out music rights?   I don’t think someone was ever hired just to find good jams

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It’s only true for the internet age where everyone is uploading their shit to iTunes/ Instagram/ YouTube/ etc where the big three labels who own everything can readily strike projects down if they haven’t paid for the rights. The responsibility of securing the rights goes to whoever’s tasked with editing the project, which is oftentimes the filmer too. Back in the VHS/ early DVD days no one gave a shit about paying money for rights, bc what was the likelihood of a big mainstream label coming across a skate video in the 90’s?

And I don’t think it was an issue when it was 90% punk bands that were happy for the exposure back then. Skate video music isn’t always some obscure band nobody in the Midwest ever heard of before anymore. I don’t even know if there’s such a thing as obscure music anymore. And if you were a big band back then, you were actually making money selling records so a video that would sell a few thousand copies at minimal profit probably wasn’t worth the effort to go after. Music clearance probably wasn’t an issue until hip hop became standard fare. Those major labels with no link to skateboarding were going to make sure they got paid.

[juras]

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There's a curse on element skateboards either you are wicked successful or you are cursed and on the way out of your career. Either way Element is fir hasbeen skaters.


Billy Pepper ostracized from skating
Forrest Kirby severe pill addiction and alcoholism
Harold Hunter RIP to the ODB of skating
Muska at his milking it stage joined TMZ debacle
Tosh Townsend killed a girl while wasted
Bam Margera had Really talented shot but blew it on his shows. Edit glad he is skating again but want him on a different team where he fits.
Huston and his dads shenanigans
Appleyard c'mon man Flip and or somewhere else would be a good spot.....
Westgate rips and he is too young to sellout.

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Dude, don't forget Markovich. He briefly skated for them, too...lol.

And do not forget Jake Rupp too.

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Lettus Bee is Jesse Neuhaus

[replaceable kingpin]

If you have indys you will try ventures and then go put your indys back on or vice versa, either way you got two sets of different trucks

[JANUS]

If you have indys you will try ventures and then go put your indys back on or vice versa, either way you got two sets of different trucks

But where’s the conspiracy?

[replaceable kingpin]

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If you have indys you will try ventures and then go put your indys back on or vice versa, either way you got two sets of different trucks

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But where’s the conspiracy?

That's the idea, to think it's not one

[Bitchardo Scantron]

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Who has brand loyalty to a hardware brand

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I used to hoard Shorty's 7/8" Silverados

I live in Atlanta, so I try to support the homies at Bender as much as possible, I pick up shortys when I have to

[Bitchardo Scantron]

Ryan Sheckler and Justin Bieber are the same person

[companguero]

Lettus Bee is Jesse Neuhaus

That set off a major nostalgia bomb

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[stone cold steve austin]

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There's a curse on element skateboards either you are wicked successful or you are cursed and on the way out of your career. Either way Element is fir hasbeen skaters.


Billy Pepper ostracized from skating
Forrest Kirby severe pill addiction and alcoholism
Harold Hunter RIP to the ODB of skating
Muska at his milking it stage joined TMZ debacle
Tosh Townsend killed a girl while wasted
Bam Margera had Really talented shot but blew it on his shows. Edit glad he is skating again but want him on a different team where he fits.
Huston and his dads shenanigans
Appleyard c'mon man Flip and or somewhere else would be a good spot.....
Westgate rips and he is too young to sellout.

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Dude, don't forget Markovich. He briefly skated for them, too...lol.

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And do not forget Jake Rupp too.

And Wray

[Pete]

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Lettus Bee is Jesse Neuhaus

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That set off a major nostalgia bomb

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Damn I forgot I had seen this when I was like 10. Good shit



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[JANUS]

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If you have indys you will try ventures and then go put your indys back on or vice versa, either way you got two sets of different trucks

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But where’s the conspiracy?

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That's the idea, to think it's not one

No. It would be a conspiracy if both truck brands turned out to be made in the same factory/ have the same geometry. Or if the marketing for one company directly influenced you to try the other company’s product, when ultimately both companies are owned by the same person. What you are describing is just owning two sets of trucks.

[Idk]

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If you have indys you will try ventures and then go put your indys back on or vice versa, either way you got two sets of different trucks

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But where’s the conspiracy?

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That's the idea, to think it's not one

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No. It would be a conspiracy if both truck brands turned out to be made in the same factory/ have the same geometry. Or if the marketing for one company directly influenced you to try the other company’s product, when ultimately both companies are owned by the same person. What you are describing is just owning two sets of trucks.

Wait. Do you guys not know that one dude owns a large percentage of Indy, Thunder, and Venture. And they do market themselves against each other.

[PatrickSkateman]

Most pro skateboarders really don’t make a lot of money. For all the ones who competed in Rome, the rest were at home eating Roman noodles.

[Atiba Applebum]

Tracker and Webb trucks are made from the same metal alloy that contains trace amounts of pulped “Kraven’s Last Hunt” Spider-Man comics

[dannyprovolone]

Most pro skateboarders really don’t make a lot of money. For all the ones who competed in Rome, the rest were at home eating Roman noodles.

But I see yuto eating roman noodles all the time on his ig story

[rawbertson.]

Cariuma bought the judges at that Rome contest

[JANUS]

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If you have indys you will try ventures and then go put your indys back on or vice versa, either way you got two sets of different trucks

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But where’s the conspiracy?

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That's the idea, to think it's not one

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No. It would be a conspiracy if both truck brands turned out to be made in the same factory/ have the same geometry. Or if the marketing for one company directly influenced you to try the other company’s product, when ultimately both companies are owned by the same person. What you are describing is just owning two sets of trucks.

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Wait. Do you guys not know that one dude owns a large percentage of Indy, Thunder, and Venture. And they do market themselves against each other.

Who, the Vitellos? Sure, but my point remains, without the additional conditions (except the truck geometry thing, that was a joke) it’s not a conspiracy. It’s just owning two sets of trucks.

[Idk]

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If you have indys you will try ventures and then go put your indys back on or vice versa, either way you got two sets of different trucks

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But where’s the conspiracy?

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That's the idea, to think it's not one

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No. It would be a conspiracy if both truck brands turned out to be made in the same factory/ have the same geometry. Or if the marketing for one company directly influenced you to try the other company’s product, when ultimately both companies are owned by the same person. What you are describing is just owning two sets of trucks.

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Wait. Do you guys not know that one dude owns a large percentage of Indy, Thunder, and Venture. And they do market themselves against each other.

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Who, the Vitellos? Sure, but my point remains, without the additional conditions (except the truck geometry thing, that was a joke) it’s not a conspiracy. It’s just owning two sets of trucks.

I don’t think it’s just the Vitellos. Jeremie Daclin alludes to it in his jenkem interview. Skateboard trucks are kind of a monopoly.

[JANUS]

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If you have indys you will try ventures and then go put your indys back on or vice versa, either way you got two sets of different trucks

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But where’s the conspiracy?

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That's the idea, to think it's not one

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No. It would be a conspiracy if both truck brands turned out to be made in the same factory/ have the same geometry. Or if the marketing for one company directly influenced you to try the other company’s product, when ultimately both companies are owned by the same person. What you are describing is just owning two sets of trucks.

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Wait. Do you guys not know that one dude owns a large percentage of Indy, Thunder, and Venture. And they do market themselves against each other.

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Who, the Vitellos? Sure, but my point remains, without the additional conditions (except the truck geometry thing, that was a joke) it’s not a conspiracy. It’s just owning two sets of trucks.

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I don’t think it’s just the Vitellos. Jeremie Daclin alludes to it in his jenkem interview. Skateboard trucks are kind of a monopoly.

That sounds really interesting, I’m going to try to find that interview. Thanks.

And if we’re being honest, maybe I felt a bit defensive because it forced me to look at the ventures I’m currently skating, and my old indys on the shelf… collecting dust and staring at me with their accusing eyes!

[Painted Baby]

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If you have indys you will try ventures and then go put your indys back on or vice versa, either way you got two sets of different trucks

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But where’s the conspiracy?

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That's the idea, to think it's not one

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No. It would be a conspiracy if both truck brands turned out to be made in the same factory/ have the same geometry. Or if the marketing for one company directly influenced you to try the other company’s product, when ultimately both companies are owned by the same person. What you are describing is just owning two sets of trucks.

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Wait. Do you guys not know that one dude owns a large percentage of Indy, Thunder, and Venture. And they do market themselves against each other.

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Who, the Vitellos? Sure, but my point remains, without the additional conditions (except the truck geometry thing, that was a joke) it’s not a conspiracy. It’s just owning two sets of trucks.

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I don’t think it’s just the Vitellos. Jeremie Daclin alludes to it in his jenkem interview. Skateboard trucks are kind of a monopoly.

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That sounds really interesting, I’m going to try to find that interview. Thanks.

And if we’re being honest, maybe I felt a bit defensive because it forced me to look at the ventures I’m currently skating, and my old indys on the shelf… collecting dust and staring at me with their accusing eyes!

My understanding is that Fausto created Venture and Thunder to grab a bigger share of the market so your first post isn't wrong. At one point, 3 of the 6 trucks on the market came from Emerico. 50% of the market is huge and all three of those brands are still going when other "Indy type" trucks are long gone. Rip yourself of before somebody else does.

[artskool]

http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2021/02/24/bringing-truck-industry-europe-jeremie-daclin/

"...all of the companies, in one way or another, belong to this one person at the top. He owns part of Independent and Venture, and he owns some shares in DLX so he owns some Thunder too. He has the market, and those brands could fix the prices in their favor, and all of that. "

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If you have indys you will try ventures and then go put your indys back on or vice versa, either way you got two sets of different trucks

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But where’s the conspiracy?

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That's the idea, to think it's not one

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No. It would be a conspiracy if both truck brands turned out to be made in the same factory/ have the same geometry. Or if the marketing for one company directly influenced you to try the other company’s product, when ultimately both companies are owned by the same person. What you are describing is just owning two sets of trucks.

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Wait. Do you guys not know that one dude owns a large percentage of Indy, Thunder, and Venture. And they do market themselves against each other.

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Who, the Vitellos? Sure, but my point remains, without the additional conditions (except the truck geometry thing, that was a joke) it’s not a conspiracy. It’s just owning two sets of trucks.

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I don’t think it’s just the Vitellos. Jeremie Daclin alludes to it in his jenkem interview. Skateboard trucks are kind of a monopoly.

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That sounds really interesting, I’m going to try to find that interview. Thanks.

And if we’re being honest, maybe I felt a bit defensive because it forced me to look at the ventures I’m currently skating, and my old indys on the shelf… collecting dust and staring at me with their accusing eyes!

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My understanding is that Fausto created Venture and Thunder to grab a bigger share of the market so your first post isn't wrong. At one point, 3 of the 6 trucks on the market came from Emerico. 50% of the market is huge and all three of those brands are still going when other "Indy type" trucks are long gone. Rip yourself of before somebody else does.

[JANUS]

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Who is it???!!

[artskool]

I'd guess its some sleazy loan shark that got in early, vs. a cool secret industry mover and shaker.

[Pete]

damn really its one dude sitting on all that truck money? thats big truck for ya damn. eye opener




free max b

[YBOS]

Deer Man of Dark Woods is Mike Osterman.

[flippy lippy]

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