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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5340 on: January 24, 2024, 03:39:38 PM »
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Another year, another year without 5.6 and up Venture Los.
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i dont know how many comments, dm's they need till they make them



Who else have a wide low / mid truck besides the Indy mid, or Ace low?

I just wonder if the market is not enough that they haven't gone down that path at all, or they find that their existing product lines do enough for them not to warrant additions to the lines?


I guess even the forged baseplate on any normal Venture truck make it 52 mm in height, so that kind of matches the Indy mid anyway.

Only Ace for low at 49 mm in height and wide at 8.75 / AF1 60 then?


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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5341 on: January 24, 2024, 04:24:33 PM »
i thought it was interesting/cool, that ace started making a low. i was surprised….low trucks have been sorta out of favor for what? the last 10-12 years? more? i thought maybe it was going to be the start of a new wave.
but the pro’s that skated lo’s the longest, seemed to age out, and the other stalwarts, switched to venture hi’s, fairly recently. westgate, gino, felipe gustavo, pj, all maybe changed to hi’s?

i like trucks, they interest me more than any other skate part. i like something about all of the major brands.
but if i only had one more session, i’d grab some setup that had venture lo’s on it, and walk to a flatground spot.
that is the thing that kicks me of my fave trucks tho: walking to the spot. being stuck on 51s is….i love how small wheels feel when i pop/flip? but just rolling down the street sucks.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5342 on: January 24, 2024, 05:01:50 PM »
i thought it was interesting/cool, that ace started making a low. i was surprised….low trucks have been sorta out of favor for what? the last 10-12 years? more? i thought maybe it was going to be the start of a new wave.
but the pro’s that skated lo’s the longest, seemed to age out, and the other stalwarts, switched to venture hi’s, fairly recently. westgate, gino, felipe gustavo, pj, all maybe changed to hi’s?

i like trucks, they interest me more than any other skate part. i like something about all of the major brands.
but if i only had one more session, i’d grab some setup that had venture lo’s on it, and walk to a flatground spot.
that is the thing that kicks me of my fave trucks tho: walking to the spot. being stuck on 51s is….i love how small wheels feel when i pop/flip? but just rolling down the street sucks.

I chalked the pros switching from lo to hi based on availability, they clearly make less low than hi; Prod made the switch for 'more pop'.

51s are both great and shitty at the same time =D

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5343 on: January 24, 2024, 05:40:29 PM »
great and shitty.
exactly!

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5344 on: January 24, 2024, 05:53:03 PM »
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i thought it was interesting/cool, that ace started making a low. i was surprised….low trucks have been sorta out of favor for what? the last 10-12 years? more? i thought maybe it was going to be the start of a new wave.
but the pro’s that skated lo’s the longest, seemed to age out, and the other stalwarts, switched to venture hi’s, fairly recently. westgate, gino, felipe gustavo, pj, all maybe changed to hi’s?

i like trucks, they interest me more than any other skate part. i like something about all of the major brands.
but if i only had one more session, i’d grab some setup that had venture lo’s on it, and walk to a flatground spot.
that is the thing that kicks me of my fave trucks tho: walking to the spot. being stuck on 51s is….i love how small wheels feel when i pop/flip? but just rolling down the street sucks.
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I chalked the pros switching from lo to hi based on availability, they clearly make less low than hi; Prod made the switch for 'more pop'.

51s are both great and shitty at the same time =D

Either Lows are their best selling truck or they're cutting back production on Lows to focus on the His - Lows are usually sold out on online stores.
Venture Truck Height:

5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82m

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5345 on: January 24, 2024, 07:17:36 PM »
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i thought it was interesting/cool, that ace started making a low. i was surprised….low trucks have been sorta out of favor for what? the last 10-12 years? more? i thought maybe it was going to be the start of a new wave.
but the pro’s that skated lo’s the longest, seemed to age out, and the other stalwarts, switched to venture hi’s, fairly recently. westgate, gino, felipe gustavo, pj, all maybe changed to hi’s?

i like trucks, they interest me more than any other skate part. i like something about all of the major brands.
but if i only had one more session, i’d grab some setup that had venture lo’s on it, and walk to a flatground spot.
that is the thing that kicks me of my fave trucks tho: walking to the spot. being stuck on 51s is….i love how small wheels feel when i pop/flip? but just rolling down the street sucks.
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I chalked the pros switching from lo to hi based on availability, they clearly make less low than hi; Prod made the switch for 'more pop'.

51s are both great and shitty at the same time =D
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Either Lows are their best selling truck or they're cutting back production on Lows to focus on the His - Lows are usually sold out on online stores.


From talking to some shops people, they will just not order any more low trucks, as they don't sell for them, in the same way they don't order smaller than 52 mm wheels, which might sell out the fastest too, but even Indy mids are being cleared out of some bigger shops just because they have way too much stock and need to get rid of them.

Once the low truck on a sub 8" board with 50 or 51 mm wheels might have been the ideal setup for tech dudes, but that is long gone, replaced by more people riding 8.25 through 8.38 to 8.5 and bigger, on any normal sized trucks on wheels anywhere from 52 mm through 53 and 54 mm sizes up to 60 mm in some cases.


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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5346 on: January 25, 2024, 04:57:29 PM »
You know what would be interesting to see

I feel like Dlxsf could sell replacement 8 hole base plate this year.

The Rock Um Like Koston 8 hole baseplate conversion kit.

Perhaps a diy template.

The Kader truck that just dropped is STRAIGHT UP FIRE!

I getting 5.8 hollows ASAP.

I love my 6.1s but yes they hurt very much with big wheels.

I fuckin need the 62mm beat downs and the 5.8  like yesterday.

Also my 6.1s are reacting funny to street salt or something.
They got yellow water marks on them.
I've never seen that happen to trucks.

What's chemically different this time?
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5347 on: January 25, 2024, 04:59:56 PM »
Another year, another year without 5.6 and up Venture Los.

You could just get a big tracker low and paint a red v on it.

It'll look like the real deal at least?
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5348 on: January 25, 2024, 07:15:22 PM »
cant find the height of trackers for the life of me
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5349 on: January 26, 2024, 12:06:51 AM »
cant find the height of trackers for the life of me

I'll ask a homie if he could measure but he's kinda far away so who knows if he'll do it.

The biggest truck 215 or whatever was about the height of a thunder 149 under foot. He had 58mm og classics on it.

The pivot angle is extreme. Like an old school truck. Points forward.

I'm talking about the dart I think

The smallest darts like a 6.1 but it's definitely way lower and the turn is like a Venture with a cut top bushing. Like almost identical.

I imagine the Dart has a vertical kingpin too. On account of the pivot angle
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5350 on: January 26, 2024, 02:32:41 AM »
tracker 2024? ::)
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5351 on: January 26, 2024, 07:20:18 AM »
found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?

venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that
people did it with indys before the mids

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5352 on: January 26, 2024, 07:35:46 AM »
found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?
venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?

If you have the time, tool and clamp setup then go for it. The last time I swapped to inverted kingpin I smashed my thumb with the hammer trying to knock the kingpin out, plus I can't smith grind so it was not worth the effort.

The bigger issue is that unless you have a threaded baseplate for the kingpin to screw into them it will always wobble loose. I think it's been reported on the Indy Mids and the solution was to use Loctite. A loose kingpin would drive me crazy.
Venture Truck Height:

5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82m

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5353 on: January 26, 2024, 09:16:33 AM »
found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?

venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that
people did it with indys before the mids

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?

Would a low top work? Sand down whatever you've been using?

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5354 on: January 26, 2024, 10:06:02 AM »
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found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?
venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?
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If you have the time, tool and clamp setup then go for it. The last time I swapped to inverted kingpin I smashed my thumb with the hammer trying to knock the kingpin out, plus I can't smith grind so it was not worth the effort.

The bigger issue is that unless you have a threaded baseplate for the kingpin to screw into them it will always wobble loose. I think it's been reported on the Indy Mids and the solution was to use Loctite. A loose kingpin would drive me crazy.
yeah a floating kingpin sounds like a nightmare
thats enough for me to not bother

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found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?

venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that
people did it with indys before the mids

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?
[close]

Would a low top work? Sand down whatever you've been using?
thats looking like the ticket, 1mm or 2 off
cant stand doing it by hand
will see if a belt sander is around
while cool-guying is a real phenomenon, studies show that 83% of all cool-guying incidents can be attributed to the cool-guyee being an awkward weirdo

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5355 on: January 26, 2024, 03:48:38 PM »
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found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?
venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?
[close]

If you have the time, tool and clamp setup then go for it. The last time I swapped to inverted kingpin I smashed my thumb with the hammer trying to knock the kingpin out, plus I can't smith grind so it was not worth the effort.

The bigger issue is that unless you have a threaded baseplate for the kingpin to screw into them it will always wobble loose. I think it's been reported on the Indy Mids and the solution was to use Loctite. A loose kingpin would drive me crazy.
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yeah a floating kingpin sounds like a nightmare
thats enough for me to not bother

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found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?

venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that
people did it with indys before the mids

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?
[close]

Would a low top work? Sand down whatever you've been using?
[close]
thats looking like the ticket, 1mm or 2 off
cant stand doing it by hand
will see if a belt sander is around



I could have checked back through old posts, but what bushings do you usually use in your trucks?

That would determine what might work best for you, eg stock bushings, then try the Venture loose kit - lower kingpin means kingpin nut down more to make it the same feeling truck as normal stock bushings anyway, but I am guessing you have something else going on there.


Trying to think of any other brands that have lower bushings, besides the Ace low bushing kit, which might be a go as well, so you don't have to change / sand down or otherwise mess with an existing set of bushings.

Once you are used to the process, it is not that big a deal, but I think I took a while to get to where I am now, cutting them down or sanding or machining them takes a bit of practice, to say the least.


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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5356 on: January 26, 2024, 04:02:04 PM »
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found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?
venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?
[close]

If you have the time, tool and clamp setup then go for it. The last time I swapped to inverted kingpin I smashed my thumb with the hammer trying to knock the kingpin out, plus I can't smith grind so it was not worth the effort.

The bigger issue is that unless you have a threaded baseplate for the kingpin to screw into them it will always wobble loose. I think it's been reported on the Indy Mids and the solution was to use Loctite. A loose kingpin would drive me crazy.
[close]
yeah a floating kingpin sounds like a nightmare
thats enough for me to not bother

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found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?

venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that
people did it with indys before the mids

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?
[close]

Would a low top work? Sand down whatever you've been using?
[close]
thats looking like the ticket, 1mm or 2 off
cant stand doing it by hand
will see if a belt sander is around
[close]



I could have checked back through old posts, but what bushings do you usually use in your trucks?

That would determine what might work best for you, eg stock bushings, then try the Venture loose kit - lower kingpin means kingpin nut down more to make it the same feeling truck as normal stock bushings anyway, but I am guessing you have something else going on there.


Trying to think of any other brands that have lower bushings, besides the Ace low bushing kit, which might be a go as well, so you don't have to change / sand down or otherwise mess with an existing set of bushings.

Once you are used to the process, it is not that big a deal, but I think I took a while to get to where I am now, cutting them down or sanding or machining them takes a bit of practice, to say the least.
was running 97a supercush but they are harder to find now
switched to 98a doh dohs

no clue what hard bottom soft top feels like
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5357 on: January 26, 2024, 04:35:40 PM »
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found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?
venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?
[close]

If you have the time, tool and clamp setup then go for it. The last time I swapped to inverted kingpin I smashed my thumb with the hammer trying to knock the kingpin out, plus I can't smith grind so it was not worth the effort.

The bigger issue is that unless you have a threaded baseplate for the kingpin to screw into them it will always wobble loose. I think it's been reported on the Indy Mids and the solution was to use Loctite. A loose kingpin would drive me crazy.
[close]
yeah a floating kingpin sounds like a nightmare
thats enough for me to not bother

Expand Quote
Expand Quote
found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?

venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that
people did it with indys before the mids

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?
[close]

Would a low top work? Sand down whatever you've been using?
[close]
thats looking like the ticket, 1mm or 2 off
cant stand doing it by hand
will see if a belt sander is around
[close]



I could have checked back through old posts, but what bushings do you usually use in your trucks?

That would determine what might work best for you, eg stock bushings, then try the Venture loose kit - lower kingpin means kingpin nut down more to make it the same feeling truck as normal stock bushings anyway, but I am guessing you have something else going on there.


Trying to think of any other brands that have lower bushings, besides the Ace low bushing kit, which might be a go as well, so you don't have to change / sand down or otherwise mess with an existing set of bushings.

Once you are used to the process, it is not that big a deal, but I think I took a while to get to where I am now, cutting them down or sanding or machining them takes a bit of practice, to say the least.
[close]
was running 97a supercush but they are harder to find now
switched to 98a doh dohs

no clue what hard bottom soft top feels like

how are you liking the dohdohs vs the supercush?

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5358 on: January 26, 2024, 05:00:38 PM »
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found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?
venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?
[close]

If you have the time, tool and clamp setup then go for it. The last time I swapped to inverted kingpin I smashed my thumb with the hammer trying to knock the kingpin out, plus I can't smith grind so it was not worth the effort.

The bigger issue is that unless you have a threaded baseplate for the kingpin to screw into them it will always wobble loose. I think it's been reported on the Indy Mids and the solution was to use Loctite. A loose kingpin would drive me crazy.
[close]
yeah a floating kingpin sounds like a nightmare
thats enough for me to not bother

Expand Quote
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found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?

venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that
people did it with indys before the mids

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?
[close]

Would a low top work? Sand down whatever you've been using?
[close]
thats looking like the ticket, 1mm or 2 off
cant stand doing it by hand
will see if a belt sander is around
[close]



I could have checked back through old posts, but what bushings do you usually use in your trucks?

That would determine what might work best for you, eg stock bushings, then try the Venture loose kit - lower kingpin means kingpin nut down more to make it the same feeling truck as normal stock bushings anyway, but I am guessing you have something else going on there.


Trying to think of any other brands that have lower bushings, besides the Ace low bushing kit, which might be a go as well, so you don't have to change / sand down or otherwise mess with an existing set of bushings.

Once you are used to the process, it is not that big a deal, but I think I took a while to get to where I am now, cutting them down or sanding or machining them takes a bit of practice, to say the least.
[close]
was running 97a supercush but they are harder to find now
switched to 98a doh dohs

no clue what hard bottom soft top feels like
[close]

how are you liking the dohdohs vs the supercush?
they are good but do prefer supercush
hard to really say since they might never fully return
solid alternative until dlx sorts that out
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5359 on: January 26, 2024, 05:55:02 PM »
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found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?
venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?
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If you have the time, tool and clamp setup then go for it. The last time I swapped to inverted kingpin I smashed my thumb with the hammer trying to knock the kingpin out, plus I can't smith grind so it was not worth the effort.

The bigger issue is that unless you have a threaded baseplate for the kingpin to screw into them it will always wobble loose. I think it's been reported on the Indy Mids and the solution was to use Loctite. A loose kingpin would drive me crazy.
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yeah a floating kingpin sounds like a nightmare
thats enough for me to not bother

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found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?

venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that
people did it with indys before the mids

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?
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Would a low top work? Sand down whatever you've been using?
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thats looking like the ticket, 1mm or 2 off
cant stand doing it by hand
will see if a belt sander is around
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I could have checked back through old posts, but what bushings do you usually use in your trucks?

That would determine what might work best for you, eg stock bushings, then try the Venture loose kit - lower kingpin means kingpin nut down more to make it the same feeling truck as normal stock bushings anyway, but I am guessing you have something else going on there.


Trying to think of any other brands that have lower bushings, besides the Ace low bushing kit, which might be a go as well, so you don't have to change / sand down or otherwise mess with an existing set of bushings.

Once you are used to the process, it is not that big a deal, but I think I took a while to get to where I am now, cutting them down or sanding or machining them takes a bit of practice, to say the least.
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was running 97a supercush but they are harder to find now
switched to 98a doh dohs

no clue what hard bottom soft top feels like

Personally, I hate it, hard bottom means you are turning less (which is fine if you want tight trucks) and a soft tops means less rebound/snap to center when you do turn; it's the opposite of what ACE does with their dual duro and it feels floopy to me.

My fav top for vents is a bones hard as it squishes down pretty nice, doesn't blow out and you don't really need a top washer (allowing Ventures to turn instead of bind). Win win.

Been experimenting with Indy black bottoms (94a) vs Bones hard (96a) bottoms, both with bones hard top; jury is still out but I'm leaning towards the bones bottom as it gives them just a hair more quicker/initial turn after the lean at the cost of a teeny amount of stabilty.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5360 on: January 26, 2024, 09:05:02 PM »
bones bushings in venture lo’s was the hack for a turny lower truck.
also quickens the turn on hi’s, and throwing out a washer or two, brings the axles in a wee bit.
i just keep it stock these days, but bones hards definitely worked for me (just get hards and loosen them, mediums and softs blow out even quicker).

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5361 on: January 26, 2024, 09:36:10 PM »
bones bushings in venture lo’s was the hack for a turny lower truck.
also quickens the turn on hi’s, and throwing out a washer or two, brings the axles in a wee bit.
i just keep it stock these days, but bones hards definitely worked for me (just get hards and loosen them, mediums and softs blow out even quicker).

@193lbs I have to use hard bushings no matter what and stock bushings across all brands are too soft.

If bones hards work for yuto, they can't be all that bad, right?

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5362 on: January 27, 2024, 02:23:24 AM »

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5363 on: January 27, 2024, 03:39:57 AM »
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bones bushings in venture lo’s was the hack for a turny lower truck.
also quickens the turn on hi’s, and throwing out a washer or two, brings the axles in a wee bit.
i just keep it stock these days, but bones hards definitely worked for me (just get hards and loosen them, mediums and softs blow out even quicker).
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@193lbs I have to use hard bushings no matter what and stock bushings across all brands are too soft.

If bones hards work for yuto, they can't be all that bad, right?
have tried bones hards countless times
concluded i cant do conical bottoms
but ill try the tops with the doh doh bottoms
and i think this setup would even out the softer top rebound

bones flat washer as a bottom washer
doh doh 98a bottoms
bones hard 96a tops (maybe shave 1mm off the plastic)
sleeved washer on top
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5364 on: January 27, 2024, 11:06:28 AM »
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bones bushings in venture lo’s was the hack for a turny lower truck.
also quickens the turn on hi’s, and throwing out a washer or two, brings the axles in a wee bit.
i just keep it stock these days, but bones hards definitely worked for me (just get hards and loosen them, mediums and softs blow out even quicker).
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@193lbs I have to use hard bushings no matter what and stock bushings across all brands are too soft.

If bones hards work for yuto, they can't be all that bad, right?
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have tried bones hards countless times
concluded i cant do conical bottoms
but ill try the tops with the doh doh bottoms
and i think this setup would even out the softer top rebound

bones flat washer as a bottom washer
doh doh 98a bottoms
bones hard 96a tops (maybe shave 1mm off the plastic)
sleeved washer on top

Without knowing your weight/how tight you skated (assuming you like tight with the hard bushings) the bones tops compresses really fast, especially with hards (which is weird); you might get away without any modification.

I hear you on the conical bottoms, it forces a different feel than what was designed (like conicals in indy, or barrelt in thunders - just, don't...)

ACE HARD Lows will work in ventures, bottom too (it is shorter tho), and it doesn't throw them off that much; or just buy two sets and swap in the low top.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5365 on: January 27, 2024, 11:13:08 AM »
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5366 on: January 27, 2024, 11:44:56 AM »
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bones bushings in venture lo’s was the hack for a turny lower truck.
also quickens the turn on hi’s, and throwing out a washer or two, brings the axles in a wee bit.
i just keep it stock these days, but bones hards definitely worked for me (just get hards and loosen them, mediums and softs blow out even quicker).
[close]

@193lbs I have to use hard bushings no matter what and stock bushings across all brands are too soft.

If bones hards work for yuto, they can't be all that bad, right?
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have tried bones hards countless times
concluded i cant do conical bottoms
but ill try the tops with the doh doh bottoms
and i think this setup would even out the softer top rebound

bones flat washer as a bottom washer
doh doh 98a bottoms
bones hard 96a tops (maybe shave 1mm off the plastic)
sleeved washer on top
[close]

Without knowing your weight/how tight you skated (assuming you like tight with the hard bushings) the bones tops compresses really fast, especially with hards (which is weird); you might get away without any modification.

I hear you on the conical bottoms, it forces a different feel than what was designed (like conicals in indy, or barrelt in thunders - just, don't...)

ACE HARD Lows will work in ventures, bottom too (it is shorter tho), and it doesn't throw them off that much; or just buy two sets and swap in the low top.
i definitely dont ride loose but idk if tight is the right word
im 6’6 and hover around 205-210 lbs
turning is way easier than you would think
a little lean does a lot with my build
anything sub 96a is pretty much out of the question, ABD

id say i like to avoid constant landing wheelbite
56mm radial fulls with forged ventures traumatized me
which made me break out an angle grinder in the first place
back on 52mm with 53 being my max
but now have to work around a ground down kingpin

conicals with ventures doesnt feel too off
but with my center of gravity, stability means everything
maybe if i weighed 40lbs less…but id look emaciated
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5367 on: January 27, 2024, 12:15:33 PM »
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bones bushings in venture lo’s was the hack for a turny lower truck.
also quickens the turn on hi’s, and throwing out a washer or two, brings the axles in a wee bit.
i just keep it stock these days, but bones hards definitely worked for me (just get hards and loosen them, mediums and softs blow out even quicker).
[close]

@193lbs I have to use hard bushings no matter what and stock bushings across all brands are too soft.

If bones hards work for yuto, they can't be all that bad, right?
[close]
have tried bones hards countless times
concluded i cant do conical bottoms
but ill try the tops with the doh doh bottoms
and i think this setup would even out the softer top rebound

bones flat washer as a bottom washer
doh doh 98a bottoms
bones hard 96a tops (maybe shave 1mm off the plastic)
sleeved washer on top
[close]

Without knowing your weight/how tight you skated (assuming you like tight with the hard bushings) the bones tops compresses really fast, especially with hards (which is weird); you might get away without any modification.

I hear you on the conical bottoms, it forces a different feel than what was designed (like conicals in indy, or barrelt in thunders - just, don't...)

ACE HARD Lows will work in ventures, bottom too (it is shorter tho), and it doesn't throw them off that much; or just buy two sets and swap in the low top.
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i definitely dont ride loose but idk if tight is the right word
im 6’6 and hover around 205-210 lbs
turning is way easier than you would think
a little lean does a lot with my build
anything sub 96a is pretty much out of the question, ABD

id say i like to avoid constant landing wheelbite
56mm radial fulls with forged ventures traumatized me
which made me break out an angle grinder in the first place
back on 52mm with 53 being my max
but now have to work around a ground down kingpin

conicals with ventures doesnt feel too off
but with my center of gravity, stability means everything
maybe if i weighed 40lbs less…but id look emaciated

Same, anything less than 94a is wheelbite city and yeah, being on the heavier side, turning is way easier, even with hard bushings. It's why I moved to Ventures in the first place.

Prefer the pop of forged Ventures so I'm trapped at 52mm or less.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5368 on: January 27, 2024, 03:39:00 PM »
anyone want a pair of one time used 5.2 Hollow Light Hi's for cheap?

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5369 on: January 27, 2024, 06:12:41 PM »
anyone want a pair of one time used 5.2 Hollow Light Hi's for cheap?
Yes , I’ll pm you