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Question time, wondering if someone could help me.
I have Thunder 148 Hollow Lights
What what the difference be between those and
Venture 5.6 Hollow Lights
Measurements and response wise?
And is Indy 144s Forged Hollow +3.1875?
I don't have the measurements, but I'm sure a fellow SLAP pal can reply with the details. In summary, the Ventures will be heavier and taller in comparison to the Thunders. The Ventures will also extend your WB more than Thunders. Ventures will also make your nose and tail seem shorter which will increase the time it takes for your board to snap off the ground, but you will get more "pop" theoretically. If you have troubles with ghost pop, you may not like them; however, there's many options to resolve this: 1. smaller wheels 2. mellower kicks 3. more fingers of flat 4. longer tail/nose. The Ventures will also feel more stable and not turn as quickly as Thunders, but again, you can make adjustments if you want them more carvy.
I skate both brands and enjoy them both. I typically skate the ventures more since I tend to spend a lot of time skating ledges than flatground or transition for examples. I'm not sure if you care, but I grew up pretty much only skating Thunders so my body's muscle memory is more familiar with the feel of Thunders. What I mean by that is that my flatground tricks are way more consistent (I land tricks easier and it takes less attempts) and I also experience less fatigue which is probably due to how light Thunders feel. I also prefer Thunders on transition, too.
At the end of the day, if you set up a board and skate it for a while, your body will eventually (hopefully) get used to the set-up and most of your issues (if, any) will be less annoying.
Good answer!
I was going to reply earlier but thought I might sound like a dick (which I certainly don't mean to do).
All the information was in the post above, or even the first post, but what does confuse some people are the different truck widths with different measurements. Regardless of width of truck, they will still be the same wheelbase as the geometry is still the same, just extended for the wider trucks, so that would not change at all. Measurements that might indicate otherwise have been added by different people and will include a degree of human error (regardless of how well people measured), but the full size range of trucks, when new and in unused condition give the same measurements for wheelbase. Even the different height team Thunders between 52 and 53mm had almost the same wheelbase, from measurements in the shop, the 147s (lower) slightly more, the 161s (taller) slightly less.
So this was about the given measurements from fixed truck positions (as above)
Thunder Lights (all sizes): + 3.25" to 3.3"
Venture Lights (all sizes): + 3.4" to 3.5"
Adding hollow (kingpin and or axle) to the equation only changes the weight by a tiny bit, but doesn't change the overall wheelbase.
Having the forged baseplate changes things ever so slightly, especially the height (down 1.5mm from the cast) and the wb length a bit, so if you had cast (regular) baseplates, the trucks would be taller and a little closer together, roughly .1" to .2" going by those figures.
The main difference (as noted by notinternetfamous) is more in the feel of the trucks, as they will turn differently and perform differently, even if you put the same bushings in both of them, on the same board, with the same wheels, bearings, etc.
If you are more a fan of slightly taller and more stable skateboards, the Ventures will serve you well, but if you prefer more turn and a lighter feel / looser overall ride, Thunders might be your better go to.
I am happy for anyone else to correct me or tell me otherwise, from their own experiences, but this seems to be the common consensus.
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