Truck set-ups

[Xen]

How easy do you think those pop out?

The stock pins?

I did the krux conversion a few years ago on thunder teams, they popped right out. Who knows if due to the new format that would be different, but somehow I don’t think they’ve changed metal or casting process, just the mold.

I’m slightly tempted but will probably wait until I grind them down to where I need the room or dlx drop their stand alone IKP as can barely get thunders loose enough as it is and using a downlow pin only makes that tougher.

It’s got to be in prep for a dlx IKP unless they’re just being user friendly.

[ImmanuelCunt]

They pop out easy on cast. At least on my 1-2 year old thunder. A real pain on the forged ones. Took me half a day without success and until I tried a sledgehammer.

[j....soy.....]

Two years ago cast no problem...last years cast....one easy...other nope...it could be something which varies.  I just think they don't engineer and manufacture them for easy replacement.  Kingpins don't break like they use to. 

[Fhk]

I found some cast plates and they both popped out in 2/3 swings but they don't have the hex cut out. The krux kingpins I ordered say K5 dlx they look the same as the normal ones, I hope they are.

[lazer69]

I have some thunder lights. The stock bushings splooged out. I'm a big boy. I took out some bones hards that I used in some indies for 5 months. I couldn't fit it with the washer so I took it out. I go to the park with no tool, and they feel too tight and I simultaneously have wheel-bite. It feels like borrowed someones elses board that rides the opposite stance. I think I put the bushing I previously had in the front, in the back and vice-versa. Did not expect it feel like this.

[FatGuy92]

Anyone know how the mag light lows affect WB? Is it similar to the current ATGs (which I think are +3.125)?

[sketchyrider]

Kick started some truck madness again. I felt pretty good on 159 hollows and titaniums. Moved across the country and my stuff was all boxed up so I bought some 159 standards on a whim, and I actually like them more I think?

I also changed up to some wider wheels so now I want to try some 149 standards to see if those work better.

Also wonder if all these things are so subtle that a 9 to 5 desk jockey will barely notice the differences. Would be nice to pick one setup to stick with for good.

[Boog]

Kick started some truck madness again. I felt pretty good on 159 hollows and titaniums. Moved across the country and my stuff was all boxed up so I bought some 159 standards on a whim, and I actually like them more I think?

I also changed up to some wider wheels so now I want to try some 149 standards to see if those work better.

Also wonder if all these things are so subtle that a 9 to 5 desk jockey will barely notice the differences. Would be nice to pick one setup to stick with for good.

I can relate to this 100 percent.

[tzhangdox]

Is there any downside to skating with pivot cup kinda exposed through the baseplate?

Trucks were way to axled so swapped the hangers recently and now I'm through the baseplate too lol

Feels totally fine when I'm skating but definitely don't want to eat shit mid trick as my truck crumbles on me

[listentoaheartbeat]

Is there any downside to skating with pivot cup kinda exposed through the baseplate?

Trucks were way to axled so swapped the hangers recently and now I'm through the baseplate too lol

Feels totally fine when I'm skating but definitely don't want to eat shit mid trick as my truck crumbles on me

Frankly I never had a baseplate looking like this but I suspect the pivot can easily break through in a number of situations. The pivot is subject to a lot of momentum.

[Xen]

Sooner or later that hanger/pivot is going to just pop the fuck out...kingpin snap and down you go, I'd say you are risking it as it is.

[moonordie]

Sooner or later that hanger/pivot is going to just pop the fuck out...kingpin snap and down you go, I'd say you are risking it as it is.

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[j....soy.....]

You'll shoot your eye out.....

[tzhangdox]

swapped out the baseplates. you guys got me spooked.

[white guy in a durag]

swapped out the baseplates. you guys got me spooked.

I mean, running half a baseplate is plenty spooky on it's own.

[Banging in the Slammer]

Been riding some inverted kingpins. Taking off my truck to adjust tightness got old. So I mix up some Gorilla epoxy but ran out halfway through.

Devcon plastic steel was used instead for the remaining truck. The Gorilla epoxy chunked out upon tightening despite curing for three days. The Devcon plastic steel cured strong like a carbon fiber impregnated plastic. Much less squishy and seemingly more resistance. Devcon seems to be the way to go

[manysnakes]

Been riding some inverted kingpins. Taking off my truck to adjust tightness got old. So I mix up some Gorilla epoxy but ran out halfway through.

Devcon plastic steel was used instead for the remaining truck. The Gorilla epoxy chunked out upon tightening despite curing for three days. The Devcon plastic steel cured strong like a carbon fiber impregnated plastic. Much less squishy and seemingly more resistance. Devcon seems to be the way to go

Gun nuts love this stuff. Do you know in what way it differs (if at all) from JB Weld 2-part epoxy?

[Fhk]

I just put the Dlk k5 kingpins in my 161 lights with no issues, if anyone else is considering it. It will be convenient having the Allen key since I'm a big fella and fuck with the looseness quite a bit.

[Xen]

I just put the Dlk k5 kingpins in my 161 lights with no issues, if anyone else is considering it. It will be convenient having the Allen key since I'm a big fella and fuck with the looseness quite a bit.

Do your plates have the new hex shape? Was going to run this on my 161s

[Fhk]

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I just put the Dlk k5 kingpins in my 161 lights with no issues, if anyone else is considering it. It will be convenient having the Allen key since I'm a big fella and fuck with the looseness quite a bit.

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Do your plates have the new hex shape? Was going to run this on my 161s

No sir, but there is no way for the nut to spin so it works just the same.

[Banging in the Slammer]

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Been riding some inverted kingpins. Taking off my truck to adjust tightness got old. So I mix up some Gorilla epoxy but ran out halfway through.

Devcon plastic steel was used instead for the remaining truck. The Gorilla epoxy chunked out upon tightening despite curing for three days. The Devcon plastic steel cured strong like a carbon fiber impregnated plastic. Much less squishy and seemingly more resistance. Devcon seems to be the way to go

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Gun nuts love this stuff. Do you know in what way it differs (if at all) from JB Weld 2-part epoxy?

Apparently Devcon isn’t an epoxy like JB weld. When you mix the two chemicals you’re actually creating a plastic. There’s tiny shards of steel in the mixture which add a shit ton of reinforcement. When it dries it feels like ceramic

Shit fucking stinks to high heaven though, probably smart to work with it outside

[DaleSr]

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Been riding some inverted kingpins. Taking off my truck to adjust tightness got old. So I mix up some Gorilla epoxy but ran out halfway through.

Devcon plastic steel was used instead for the remaining truck. The Gorilla epoxy chunked out upon tightening despite curing for three days. The Devcon plastic steel cured strong like a carbon fiber impregnated plastic. Much less squishy and seemingly more resistance. Devcon seems to be the way to go

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Gun nuts love this stuff. Do you know in what way it differs (if at all) from JB Weld 2-part epoxy?

[close]

I was wondering the same thing because I wanted to ride Kreper kingpins. After some light reading about Devcon Plastic Steel, Devcon isn't an epoxy but something else entirely different: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methyl_methacrylate

Orthopedic surgeons use bonding agents based on the same chemistry as Devcon Plastic Steel for joint replacements. So it goes to follow Devcon is probably the best you can get, no?

Kreper kingpins are great from my experience. I can't wait to try out this devcon shit

[PuffinMuffin]

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Been riding some inverted kingpins. Taking off my truck to adjust tightness got old. So I mix up some Gorilla epoxy but ran out halfway through.

Devcon plastic steel was used instead for the remaining truck. The Gorilla epoxy chunked out upon tightening despite curing for three days. The Devcon plastic steel cured strong like a carbon fiber impregnated plastic. Much less squishy and seemingly more resistance. Devcon seems to be the way to go

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Gun nuts love this stuff. Do you know in what way it differs (if at all) from JB Weld 2-part epoxy?

[close]

I was wondering the same thing because I wanted to ride Kreper kingpins. After some light reading about Devcon Plastic Steel, Devcon isn't an epoxy but something else entirely different: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methyl_methacrylate

Orthopedic surgeons use bonding agents based on the same chemistry as Devcon Plastic Steel for joint replacements. So it goes to follow Devcon is probably the best you can get, no?

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Kreper kingpins are great from my experience. I can't wait to try out this devcon shit

I feel I may have come up with a better/easier solution than epoxys. I hammered a brass spoke nipple between the baseplate and the nut. After mounting the trucks it works. Trucks can be tightened and loosened without the nut spinning. Probably any soft bit of metal hammered in will work, it just needs to "jam up" the rotation. I drew a shitty MS paint picture to illustrate, the red thing represents the brass nipple.



If you go down the Devcon route, I'd like to know how it goes 

[al_cvbrera]

in your own words, how do thunders compare to ventures and vice versa? i'm really considering getting either of the two.

[Frank and Fred]

Thunders- The Turn initiates nice and quick but isn't very deep. Feel stable even when loose. Can wheel bite quick without risers for some people/ setups. Some people don't like where the axle sits in relation to the baseplate- as on nose/ tail slides your wheels can catch. Very light (even the standard team trucks). Great stock bushings. I personally think the turn is improved with risers.

Ventures- The Turn is very delayed. You lean- nothing and then after a certain point it tuns quite nice. Very different feeling. Good for setting up for flip tricks, manuals and has a great pop. Huge Kingpin clearance. I haven't spent much time on Venture. I'm still yet to feel how stable they are bombing hills and how well they turn in a bowl.

My preference of the two, right now, is Thunder as I like the quick turn but also that stability when going fast.

[al_cvbrera]

Thunders- The Turn initiates nice and quick but isn't very deep. Feel stable even when loose. Can wheel bite quick without risers for some people/ setups. Some people don't like where the axle sits in relation to the baseplate- as on nose/ tail slides your wheels can catch. Very light (even the standard team trucks). Great stock bushings. I personally think the turn is improved with risers.

Ventures- The Turn is very delayed. You lean- nothing and then after a certain point it tuns quite nice. Very different feeling. Good for setting up for flip tricks, manuals and has a great pop. Huge Kingpin clearance. I haven't spent much time on Venture. I'm still yet to feel how stable they are bombing hills and how well they turn in a bowl.

My preference of the two, right now, is Thunder as I like the quick turn but also that stability when going fast.

thanks man! thunders it is then. should be interesting trying them out coming from aces.

[Frank and Fred]

I rotate between Ace and Thunder and there is usually  a little adjustment period. . Thunders are going to feel very different from Ace. Both in turn and in the way they pop. Ace turn quick and deep and keep turning. Thunder is far more limited of a turn. Ace pop quick but can feel sloppy. Thunder, you need pop harder but get more in return. Just the opinions of a middle aged mediocre skateboarder, so take them with a grain of salt.

[manysnakes]

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Been riding some inverted kingpins. Taking off my truck to adjust tightness got old. So I mix up some Gorilla epoxy but ran out halfway through.

Devcon plastic steel was used instead for the remaining truck. The Gorilla epoxy chunked out upon tightening despite curing for three days. The Devcon plastic steel cured strong like a carbon fiber impregnated plastic. Much less squishy and seemingly more resistance. Devcon seems to be the way to go

[close]

Gun nuts love this stuff. Do you know in what way it differs (if at all) from JB Weld 2-part epoxy?

[close]

I was wondering the same thing because I wanted to ride Kreper kingpins. After some light reading about Devcon Plastic Steel, Devcon isn't an epoxy but something else entirely different: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methyl_methacrylate

Orthopedic surgeons use bonding agents based on the same chemistry as Devcon Plastic Steel for joint replacements. So it goes to follow Devcon is probably the best you can get, no?

[close]

Kreper kingpins are great from my experience. I can't wait to try out this devcon shit

[close]

I feel I may have come up with a better/easier solution than epoxys. I hammered a brass spoke nipple between the baseplate and the nut. After mounting the trucks it works. Trucks can be tightened and loosened without the nut spinning. Probably any soft bit of metal hammered in will work, it just needs to "jam up" the rotation. I drew a shitty MS paint picture to illustrate, the red thing represents the brass nipple.



If you go down the Devcon route, I'd like to know how it goes 

Mind posting a photo? I get it but I want to see how
It looks. I guarantee that I own more brass nipples than any other Slapper (unless someone else built wheels professionally for twelve years), so I am eager to try this.

[ok boomer]

Ok so I've decided to get some Thunder 147s again.
As far as avoiding magic carpet..... what is maximum width that I could use, without magic carpet'ing?
Pretty sure I could do 8.25 without it feeling too tippy, but... above that? Like 8.3, 8.4, 8.5? (I don't like trucks above 8")
8.25 max... or?

[brownjenkin]

Ok so I've decided to get some Thunder 147s again.
As far as avoiding magic carpet..... what is maximum width that I could use, without magic carpet'ing?
Pretty sure I could do 8.25 without it feeling too tippy, but... above that? Like 8.3, 8.4, 8.5? (I don't like trucks above 8")
8.25 max... or?

I guess that depends on your magic carpet tolerance. I just got my first pair of 147s and I've tried them on an 8.125 and an 8.25. I'm running two washers on the inside of each wheel. I feel like I could easily run them on an 8.38 without issue. But I actually prefer magic carpet to frankentruck.

147s are rather low for a standard truck so I put 1/8 risers on there. I think I'd wheelbite too hard on the 8.25 and a 50mm truck with the added tippyness.

Here's Ellington riding 147s on an 8.625 about ten years ago: