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« Reply #1800 on: June 26, 2019, 02:37:16 PM »

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« Reply #1801 on: June 26, 2019, 08:21:24 PM »
At least he took it to twitter like a man



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Re: lame instagram posts by pros
« Reply #1802 on: June 26, 2019, 10:34:49 PM »
part 1.
i disagree with the premise that skateboarding has a shape nor that its "political." i'm pretty sure in another thread i said that the act of skateboarding is radically apolitical.  For the same reasons skateboarding is apoltical, it has no shape. it has no hierarchy, no rules, no dogma, no goals, no objective, no purpose, it doesn't further anything, there are no interests beyond the act itself, there is nothing practical about it.  its just a fun thing to do (and watch).  i'm genuinely curious to know what you think the shape of skateboarding is and whats political about it. is the act of kayaking political?  is playing with dominoes political?  building ships in a bottle?  Fly fishing is dominated by white men-- do women of color need to carve out their own niche in the fly fishing community-- or can they just go fly fishing? 

I'm surprised that you view skateboarding as this space where politics and all the aspects that shape our lives vanish. I agree that the act of flipping a board around has no essential value or meaning, but that doesn't mean we haven't given it an intense meaning or imbued it with political significance.

Skateboarding is often overtly political in its "fuck you" attitude to the suburbs, the white-collar work, to the dominant use of space in the city, to adult authority, to religion (the Thrasher pentagram is pretty political), school, traditional sports, and so on. However as rebellious as skateboarding culture has been, we haven't always been super open to everyone.

In terms of hierarchies, do you firmly believe that there are no hierarchies w/in skateboarding or our local scenes? Outside the obvious of who has a voice writing for a magazine or who gets sponsored, do the locals at any park honestly treat everyone equally? Do the employees at "core" shops treat everyone equally? Shit, nearly every time I enter a core shop, I'm reminded of how gnarly the skate hierarchy really is.

In terms of rules, this whole thread is about people who break the informal rules of skateboarding by kooking out on Instagram.

The idea that our subculture and our spaces lack politics kind of reminds me of when Americans tell me Americans don't really have a culture. As Americans we have a really interesting culture, it is just that it is difficult to see it when it is just "normal" to us. Skateboarding has pretty gnarly politics, but it is just normal to many of us and it is harder to see some of the politics when they don't affect us personally. An extreme comparison might be the people who want to keep politics out of football but don't mind that the sport often encourages players and fans to engage in jingoist practices, the players reference Jesus every other second, and they have military nights and do military fly overs at some of the games. Those are super strong political behaviors, but they are just "normal" for many and therefore unseen.

But since this is a thread about lame IG posts, let me end with my favorite skater who makes rapping look really hard:
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Re: lame instagram posts by pros
« Reply #1803 on: June 26, 2019, 10:38:37 PM »
Damn Jereme really loves his papa cock

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Re: lame instagram posts by pros
« Reply #1804 on: June 26, 2019, 10:52:47 PM »
papa cock

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Re: lame instagram posts by pros
« Reply #1805 on: June 27, 2019, 12:53:50 AM »
fucking hell, Jereme basically embodies this thread :o
The way he moves when he tries to "rap" is so tragic, like I honestly feel sorry for him...

Impish sausage is definitely gonna blow up as a euphemism this year

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« Reply #1806 on: June 27, 2019, 01:32:59 AM »
fucking hell, Jereme basically embodies this thread :o
The way he moves when he tries to "rap" is so tragic, like I honestly feel sorry for him...
He moves that way because that’s the way Papa Cock tells him to move.
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Re: lame instagram posts by pros
« Reply #1807 on: June 27, 2019, 01:52:53 AM »
he's swaying around because he's riding papa cock just below the frame of the video.

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Re: lame instagram posts by pros
« Reply #1808 on: June 27, 2019, 03:11:00 AM »
https://mobile.twitter.com/RyanScott_Lay

ryans response


as much as he could be right, he comes across as a huge fucking dick.

Just because he's not a mountain dew chugging, ginger hilbilly he's right to defend his queer friends ( who have all the rights to do their events and to express themselves ).

This way it's just to show everybody how he's better than Jordan, the post couldn't be a Pulizer winning essay but I feel it comes from heart, or at least it's a message that will reach like minded hillbillies and can cause no harm.

To quote South park again: You know, I don't think when Gandhi starved himself he was all "Dude, look how fuckin' awesome I am for starving. Check me out!"
The '80s were the worst period. You had these horrible pop bands growing their hair and calling themselves metal.

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Re: lame instagram posts by pros
« Reply #1809 on: June 27, 2019, 03:28:44 AM »
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as much as he could be right, he comes across as a huge fucking dick.

Just because he's not a mountain dew chugging, ginger hilbilly he's right to defend his queer friends ( who have all the rights to do their events and to express themselves ).

This way it's just to show everybody how he's better than Jordan, the post couldn't be a Pulizer winning essay but I feel it comes from heart, or at least it's a message that will reach like minded hillbillies and can cause no harm.

To quote South park again: You know, I don't think when Gandhi starved himself he was all "Dude, look how fuckin' awesome I am for starving. Check me out!"

huh. you must not have read ryan's tweets at all

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Re: lame instagram posts by pros
« Reply #1810 on: June 27, 2019, 05:13:21 AM »
I have and all it comes down to how HE's doing the right thing because he's woke and others aren't.


Just FIY:

2/ A friend in the Queer Skate LA scene reached out to me and asked me to say something because his issue with them started before his post. I think the sentiment of “we’re all skaters” is mostly harmless, because yes, skating can be a really powerful leveling force.

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3/ But if you’re doing this out of frustration for queer/womxn only skate events at your local park, you’re not doing it to promote a message of positivity or inclusivity.

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4/ You’re just rifling off a really ill-informed, potentially harmful (see comments) message to your 90k+ followers because you felt excluded as a white guy. I’ve done and said so much stupid shit in my life (will continue to do so because growth is hard),

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The '80s were the worst period. You had these horrible pop bands growing their hair and calling themselves metal.

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Re: lame instagram posts by pros
« Reply #1811 on: June 27, 2019, 05:42:33 AM »
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This in particular is a good interpretation of this whole situation.

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I'm so glad that JM is coming from a place of love and a desire to bring people together. His heart is in the right place. He just learned something in public, and that is that you have to allow marginalized groups to congregate and not try to shame them for that. I'm white, male, and straight and I'm not going to pretend to know what its like to be anything else. Of course we can all come together and shred. Peace and love y'all.
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Well said, also shout out to Rich for his comment because I know he posts on here.
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Also comments like this actually help gain understanding. Ryan Lay jumping on twitter going "Lmao look at Jordan Maxham's instagram post" to his like-minded followers does not help, and neither does posting on his story "don't do this white dudes" with no further explanation. Ridiculing and ganging up on well-intentioned people for a lack of nuance is one of the worst characteristics of the extremely online left, it's like c'mon guys not everyone has the same knowledge or understanding as you. Also, I understand the perspective of marginalised people to say "look I shouldn't have to take my time online to explain to people why my lived experiences/trauma/activism matter," that's valid, it's a taxing thing to do and not every LGBTQIA person should have to devote their time online to educating others. But Ryan is positioning himself as an ally, so he's the kind of person who can help educate others on such issues without feeling like he's personally having to validate his own identity/concerns.

for fucking real. I lean very far to the left and behavior like Ryan showed regarding this post is so off putting. Also fuck Vent City.

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Re: lame instagram posts by pros
« Reply #1812 on: June 27, 2019, 06:31:45 AM »
Vent City crew is definitely doubling down on their self-branding as the thought police of skateboarding

it's not even that they have bad takes, it's that they come across as these insufferably smug humorless scolds

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Re: lame instagram posts by pros
« Reply #1813 on: June 27, 2019, 06:38:39 AM »
i thought ryan was kinda right though. a message can be nice ('we're all skaters we should be all the same!!') but if it comes from a shitty place ('it sucks that i can't skate the park when it's a womens only night'), it's still shitty and the shittiness could be pointed out so that others can learn to be less shitty.
of course, now, this does require taking a smug, perhaps even humorless stance against someone who isn't doing much wrong to begin with. that's a choice some people just love to make

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« Reply #1814 on: June 27, 2019, 06:41:37 AM »
ryan lay seems like an all around pretty miserable person to be around
i don't want to link to the channel because is promotes athiesm.

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« Reply #1815 on: June 27, 2019, 06:46:26 AM »
i thought ryan was kinda right though. a message can be nice ('we're all skaters we should be all the same!!') but if it comes from a shitty place ('it sucks that i can't skate the park when it's a womens only night'), it's still shitty and the shittiness could be pointed out so that others can learn to be less shitty.
of course, now, this does require taking a smug, perhaps even humorless stance against someone who isn't doing much wrong to begin with. that's a choice some people just love to make

except the post did not say this..
i don't want to link to the channel because is promotes athiesm.

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Re: lame instagram posts by pros
« Reply #1816 on: June 27, 2019, 06:50:41 AM »
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part 1.
i disagree with the premise that skateboarding has a shape nor that its "political." i'm pretty sure in another thread i said that the act of skateboarding is radically apolitical.  For the same reasons skateboarding is apoltical, it has no shape. it has no hierarchy, no rules, no dogma, no goals, no objective, no purpose, it doesn't further anything, there are no interests beyond the act itself, there is nothing practical about it.  its just a fun thing to do (and watch).  i'm genuinely curious to know what you think the shape of skateboarding is and whats political about it. is the act of kayaking political?  is playing with dominoes political?  building ships in a bottle?  Fly fishing is dominated by white men-- do women of color need to carve out their own niche in the fly fishing community-- or can they just go fly fishing? 
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I'm surprised that you view skateboarding as this space where politics and all the aspects that shape our lives vanish. I agree that the act of flipping a board around has no essential value or meaning, but that doesn't mean we haven't given it an intense meaning or imbued it with political significance.

Skateboarding is often overtly political in its "fuck you" attitude to the suburbs, the white-collar work, to the dominant use of space in the city, to adult authority, to religion (the Thrasher pentagram is pretty political), school, traditional sports, and so on. However as rebellious as skateboarding culture has been, we haven't always been super open to everyone.

In terms of hierarchies, do you firmly believe that there are no hierarchies w/in skateboarding or our local scenes? Outside the obvious of who has a voice writing for a magazine or who gets sponsored, do the locals at any park honestly treat everyone equally? Do the employees at "core" shops treat everyone equally? Shit, nearly every time I enter a core shop, I'm reminded of how gnarly the skate hierarchy really is.

In terms of rules, this whole thread is about people who break the informal rules of skateboarding by kooking out on Instagram.

The idea that our subculture and our spaces lack politics kind of reminds me of when Americans tell me Americans don't really have a culture. As Americans we have a really interesting culture, it is just that it is difficult to see it when it is just "normal" to us. Skateboarding has pretty gnarly politics, but it is just normal to many of us and it is harder to see some of the politics when they don't affect us personally. An extreme comparison might be the people who want to keep politics out of football but don't mind that the sport often encourages players and fans to engage in jingoist practices, the players reference Jesus every other second, and they have military nights and do military fly overs at some of the games. Those are super strong political behaviors, but they are just "normal" for many and therefore unseen.

But since this is a thread about lame IG posts, let me end with my favorite skater who makes rapping look really hard:



i don't agree with your position but you have a ton a valid points. However the phrase "papa cock" really puts this thread in to perspective. if a new thread pops up i got a few things to say... but until then have a gnar for being thoughtful and jah bless papa cock.
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Re: lame instagram posts by pros
« Reply #1817 on: June 27, 2019, 06:53:48 AM »
ryan lay seems like an all around pretty miserable person to be around

Well kick my dick in the dirt, a straight edger complaining that someone’s preachiness and stridency makes them insufferable to be around?!   What a world

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Re: lame instagram posts by pros
« Reply #1818 on: June 27, 2019, 06:54:19 AM »


"Government, Hmm? Get out of my Way"


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« Reply #1819 on: June 27, 2019, 07:03:49 AM »
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ryan lay seems like an all around pretty miserable person to be around
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Well kick my dick in the dirt, a straight edger complaining that someone’s preachiness and stridency makes them insufferable to be around?!   What a world

haha i made that username 10 years ago and its a joke.. so don't worry, you would never know if i drank or not if you met me in real life.  my firs post here was a picture of a bottle of ryan gallant branded patron, but i'm sure the irony in that would be lost with you.  and it literally has nothing to do with ryan lay's insufferable personality...
i don't want to link to the channel because is promotes athiesm.

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Re: lame instagram posts by pros
« Reply #1820 on: June 27, 2019, 07:46:06 AM »
We all have bills to pay, but I think a multinational oil company tops corporate shoes and energy drinks for morally questionable sponsors. Sick kickflip though  :o


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Re: lame instagram posts by pros
« Reply #1821 on: June 27, 2019, 08:38:28 AM »
That's a serius step up in shitty, non skateboard sponsors.

Plus Leticia talks about it her Nine Club, she's sponosored too, and they don't even get free gas.


I think that Petrobras might have a connection with the Olympics team or some shit.
The '80s were the worst period. You had these horrible pop bands growing their hair and calling themselves metal.

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Re: lame instagram posts by pros
« Reply #1822 on: June 27, 2019, 09:09:44 AM »
We all have bills to pay, but I think a multinational oil company tops corporate shoes and energy drinks for morally questionable sponsors. Sick kickflip though  :o


Is that kickflip motherfucker somekind professional skateboarder or what?

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Re: lame instagram posts by pros
« Reply #1823 on: June 27, 2019, 09:14:16 AM »
They do it different in Brazil. I wouldn’t be so quick to pass judgement.

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Re: lame instagram posts by pros
« Reply #1824 on: June 27, 2019, 10:02:02 AM »
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« Reply #1825 on: June 27, 2019, 10:05:22 AM »
We all have bills to pay, but I think a multinational oil company tops corporate shoes and energy drinks for morally questionable sponsors. Sick kickflip though  :o



Looks like shake Junt grip

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Re: lame instagram posts by pros
« Reply #1826 on: June 27, 2019, 10:07:59 AM »
Thank you Jereme Rogers for supplying me with my next Scruff screen name.

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Re: lame instagram posts by pros
« Reply #1827 on: June 27, 2019, 10:11:14 AM »
They do it different in Brazil. I wouldn’t be so quick to pass judgement.

im going to go ahead and pass judgment


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« Reply #1828 on: June 27, 2019, 10:14:02 AM »


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Re: lame instagram posts by pros
« Reply #1829 on: June 27, 2019, 10:14:47 AM »
Papa Cock