Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock

[PincherBug]

1.) This
2.) format
3.) means
4.) it's
5.) true

[notcool]

dude how many hearings does this guy have to have? i don't really follow how the judicial system works but is this normal to be seen this many times? also i assume he has a DA working for him not an actual lawyer.

[chris gentryfied]

dude how many hearings does this guy have to have? i don't really follow how the judicial system works but is this normal to be seen this many times? also i assume he has a DA working for him not an actual lawyer.

the DA works against you. i think you mean 'public defender'.
yes it's normal, you go in for bail hearings, you got arraignment, then pre-trial and trial. usually the DA will come to yyour lawyer with an ever sweetening deal the closer you get to trial. finally, if they give you one you can live with, you take that deal.
if not, you go to trial and pray for the best.

[notcool]

public defender is what i meant yeah the DA is the guy trying to convict the guy. your correct.

[thefriscokid]

GX shouldve left, seems like an accident that went horribly wrong.

Jesse is the chillest dude out of all them, hard to see him take the whole fall for a group of bone heads

[Front Crunt]

It took more than two years for Luis Alberto Ramos-Coreas to be convicted for hitting a San Francisco police officer in the head with a skateboard.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/12/03/man-guilty-in-2016-skateboard-attack-on-south-san-francisco-officer/

And it took more than a month after that to finalize the sentencing. He received an 18-year prison sentence.

https://www.smdailyjournal.com/news/local/man-gets-years-prison-for-assaulting-police-officer/article_4489b2dc-194e-11e9-bbc0-6f0d77918004.html

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=93449.0

[chris gentryfied]

agree with Gassy Clay. Brian knocked him down and hit him once on the floor. he got up and charged at the wrong man [Jesse] who pushed or punched him down again.
he didn't rise this time and all the skaters absconded. the whole thing was quick. nobody had time to 'just leave' once the fisticuffs happened, it was maybe 4 seconds.
sure, they should've left prior instead of moving barricades but hindsight is 2020.
it was a really strange accident, Sean Greene broke his neck bombing a hill but he's ambulatory. this guy hit his head from a standing fall and now he's a vegetable.
it's like Gonz said 'some seem to work so hard while others don't work at all. but don't worry, in the end nature will crippal us all.'

[notcool]

is there any warrant for bryan or is he still unidentified?  what about ryan garshall?

[TheLurper]

dude how many hearings does this guy have to have? i don't really follow how the judicial system works but is this normal to be seen this many times? also i assume he has a DA working for him not an actual lawyer.

Roughly 98% of criminal cases are resolved via plea bargains, so simply going to court is really rare.

[notcool]

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dude how many hearings does this guy have to have? i don't really follow how the judicial system works but is this normal to be seen this many times? also i assume he has a DA working for him not an actual lawyer.

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Roughly 98% of criminal cases are resolved via plea bargains, so simply going to court is really rare.

  yeah the only time I got caught skateboarding was at Stanford University in Palo Alto it was a misdemeanor instead of an infraction because it was on the Stanford the grounds I had to get a lawyer to defend me

[chris gentryfied]

lurper, while you're right about plea bargains, you're wrong that you don't go to court to hear deals over and over until they offer you a sweet one and/or you take it to trial.
usually you see a judge w/in 72 hours. then again in 14-28 days. then again by 60 days unless you waive your right to a speedy trial. legally, i think they have to wrap it up in 60 days but if you waive, you can fight a case for yrs.
in serious cases, people usually fight the case for upwards of 2 yrs. figure they're gonna do serious time regardless so they're not in a hurry to take any old deal. after you've sat for a while, there's less clamor for your head from the victims, you've suffered a little, everyone's got a cooler head.

[TheLurper]

lurper, while you're right about plea bargains, you're wrong that you don't go to court to hear deals over and over until they offer you a sweet one and/or you take it to trial.
usually you see a judge w/in 72 hours. then again in 14-28 days. then again by 60 days unless you waive your right to a speedy trial. legally, i think they have to wrap it up in 60 days but if you waive, you can fight a case for yrs.
in serious cases, people usually fight the case for upwards of 2 yrs. figure they're gonna do serious time regardless so they're not in a hurry to take any old deal. after you've sat for a while, there's less clamor for your head from the victims, you've suffered a little, everyone's got a cooler head.

Good catch. I was wrong.

I should have said that a plea deal avoids going to trial. This would have been more accurate (https://www.justice.gov/usao/justice-101/pleabargaining).

"More than 90 percent of defendants plead guilty rather than go to trial. If a defendant pleads guilty in return for the government agreeing to drop certain charges or to recommend a lenient sentence, the agreement often is called a “plea bargain.” If the defendant pleads guilty, the judge may impose a sentence, but more commonly will schedule a later hearing to determine the sentence. In most felony cases the judge waits for the results of a presentence report from the court’s probation office before imposing sentence."

https://www.uscourts.gov/about-federal-courts/types-cases/criminal-cases

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https://www.gq.com/story/gx1000-skate-crew-san-francisco

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What a fucking embarrassment.

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Hey man, just because you and I can't afford a $1700 jacket and a $245 polo doesn't mean they are a complete embarrassment to skateboarders.

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this story was from over a year ago.  GX1000 sucks nonetheless

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Lol everyone on here is so fucking lame. Who would honestly turn down a GQ interview that gives you massive publicity?? Those dudes still rip and are gnarlier than most of the industry. But we can keep hating on them cause GQ published an article about them, not cause they are super raw SF skaters. Everyone hating are the actual kooks

Hi GX guy!

[retiredpornstar]

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https://www.gq.com/story/gx1000-skate-crew-san-francisco

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What a fucking embarrassment.

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Hey man, just because you and I can't afford a $1700 jacket and a $245 polo doesn't mean they are a complete embarrassment to skateboarders.

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this story was from over a year ago.  GX1000 sucks nonetheless

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Lol everyone on here is so fucking lame. Who would honestly turn down a GQ interview that gives you massive publicity?? Those dudes still rip and are gnarlier than most of the industry. But we can keep hating on them cause GQ published an article about them, not cause they are super raw SF skaters. Everyone hating are the actual kooks

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Hi GX guy!

What up

[Abyss1]

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dude how many hearings does this guy have to have? i don't really follow how the judicial system works but is this normal to be seen this many times? also i assume he has a DA working for him not an actual lawyer.

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Roughly 98% of criminal cases are resolved via plea bargains, so simply going to court is really rare.

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  yeah the only time I got caught skateboarding was at Stanford University in Palo Alto it was a misdemeanor instead of an infraction because it was on the Stanford the grounds I had to get a lawyer to defend me

Stanford was dope around 96-98, super fun ledges and hubba, never really got kicked out then.  SF was always cop/security drama from since I can remember.  Downtown San Jose was drama free for a minute too, never got a chance to session coral reef aka courthouse ...guess we need Jordan Peterson to represent us as public defender and skatestopper advocate lol

[fang]

1) Shalom

[Dwyck]

They don't get to keep the clothes. This came up w AOC last year - when you do a shoot like that the magazine gives you clothes, you don't keep them.

[Donkey Lips]

But the friendships last forever<3

[Eds_gallerist]

Because people keep repeating the same lies, I'll just clarify:

1. They were skating and really pushing the limits in terms of moving the barricades, etc.
2. The security guy was doing his job, but clearly lost his cool (nowhere in the security guard handbook does it say that stepping to a big group of people by yourself is a good idea).
3. There was a scuffle.
4. The guard fell backwards and hit his head on the ground. He looks the way he does because the doctor had to remove part of his skull to relieve the pressure caused by his brain swelling. At no time was his head bashed in with a skateboard.
5. At any point, either of the parties could have avoided this by doing what they were supposed to (GX leaving, or the guard calling the police and/or more guards).
6. Shit happens. It sucks, but that's how it is. Enjoy your shit-free life and don't take the good parts for granted.

You forgot
7. GX ran away after security didnt get up.

I guess that's one of the reasons hardly anyone feels sorry for them.

[Bighugemegajohnson]

True SF raw sk8ers run away like pussies and play dress up

[notcool]

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dude how many hearings does this guy have to have? i don't really follow how the judicial system works but is this normal to be seen this many times? also i assume he has a DA working for him not an actual lawyer.

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Roughly 98% of criminal cases are resolved via plea bargains, so simply going to court is really rare.

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  yeah the only time I got caught skateboarding was at Stanford University in Palo Alto it was a misdemeanor instead of an infraction because it was on the Stanford the grounds I had to get a lawyer to defend me

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Stanford was dope around 96-98, super fun ledges and hubba, never really got kicked out then.  SF was always cop/security drama from since I can remember.  Downtown San Jose was drama free for a minute too, never got a chance to session coral reef aka courthouse ...guess we need Jordan Peterson to represent us as public defender and skatestopper advocate lol

stanford is amazing its one big skatepark basically so many spots

[Abyss1]

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dude how many hearings does this guy have to have? i don't really follow how the judicial system works but is this normal to be seen this many times? also i assume he has a DA working for him not an actual lawyer.

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Roughly 98% of criminal cases are resolved via plea bargains, so simply going to court is really rare.

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  yeah the only time I got caught skateboarding was at Stanford University in Palo Alto it was a misdemeanor instead of an infraction because it was on the Stanford the grounds I had to get a lawyer to defend me

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Stanford was dope around 96-98, super fun ledges and hubba, never really got kicked out then.  SF was always cop/security drama from since I can remember.  Downtown San Jose was drama free for a minute too, never got a chance to session coral reef aka courthouse ...guess we need Jordan Peterson to represent us as public defender and skatestopper advocate lol

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stanford is amazing its one big skatepark basically so many spots

Have you seen it recently. a ton of construction and new buildings, lots of pretty new hand rails and stairs.  I wouldnt dare skate that campus in 2019, campus police seems beefed up too.

[Powerslide]

Have you seen it recently. a ton of construction and new buildings, lots of pretty new hand rails and stairs.  I wouldnt dare skate that campus in 2019, campus police seems beefed up too.

The Stanford gap is one of those things that doesn't look as big on video as it is for real. My cousin went to grad skool there around 04-06 and we'd walk around campus from time to time - would ollie and 180 that gap when there. Always wanted to kickflip it but never got it. Never really saw campus popo during that time either.

p.s. next time anyone skates Stanford, just say you're a grad student and you live in Escondido Village lol.

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Have you seen it recently. a ton of construction and new buildings, lots of pretty new hand rails and stairs.  I wouldnt dare skate that campus in 2019, campus police seems beefed up too.

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The Stanford gap is one of those things that doesn't look as big on video as it is for real. My cousin went to grad skool there around 04-06 and we'd walk around campus from time to time - would ollie and 180 that gap when there. Always wanted to kickflip it but never got it. Never really saw campus popo during that time either.

p.s. next time anyone skates Stanford, just say you're a grad student and you live in Escondido Village lol.

   I got popped there twice they take e everything even your tape as evidence I don't know how pros get around the cops

[SHMANDERSON]

His lawyer filed a motion to dismiss the charges but it was denied. Jury selection was Apr 10th. Trial starts next week.

[rapscallion]

His lawyer filed a motion to dismiss the charges but it was denied. Jury selection was Apr 10th. Trial starts next week.

Well that was rather optimistic of him, I wonder if he sweetened the pot by saying "please."

[shit_for_brains]

Going to trial is such a dumb idea.

[chris gentryfied]

Going to trial is such a dumb idea.

if the deal is 20 yrs, least in trial he has a chance to pawn the blame on someone else. my guess is on the date of trial they'll give him a deal he can live with.
i went to jail in SF 16 yrs ago, first court date they offered me 2 yrs upstate. 2nd court date, 6 months. 3rd court date, unsupervised probation, felony dropped to misdemeanor, get the hell outta here.
similar experiences in other states.

[Shifty Flip]

Jury selection already? That seems so quick. How can there not be more, and clearer footage? It's downtown SF. Figured it'd be wired for sound around black rock.

I had to wait 11.5 months to pick a jury, never waived my speey trial. Picked 8 jurors before breaking for lunch. 5 minutes in cell for bag lunch, my lawyer comes in to say they dismissed all 14 counts. If you don't feel your guilty, never take a deal, no matter how "sweet" it may seem. Personally, when the deal went from 10-25  years & habitual jacket, down to 2 years, I knew I was doing the right thing going to trial. Also, I DIDN'T DO IT. Violent cases are much different from drug cases though. No victim or victim advocates.  Lawyer said the only reason I got off was I didn't try to talk my way out of arrest, just immediately invoked my right to council. Codefendant's almost always going to try to put their trash on you. The fact Jesse is the only one charged makes it really seem like he is at fault. They'd definitely charge any others before his trial starts, if they're were ever going to. From the footage I saw, I'm surprised Insta Detox wasn't charged in some capacity.

[shit_for_brains]

Going to trial for him with this is such a dumb idea, how's that? They've had him in there since December on no bail because of how fucked his butt is. Have you ever had jury duty? Do you want those dipshits deciding your fate? I'd rather they take me out back and shoot me. The only reason I didn't take my deal was because I already knew it was getting dismissed and that took a year. No goddamn way am I letting my "peers" judge me they think security guards are cops and cops are soldiers and soldiers are heroes and now you're doing 15 years.