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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1260 on: April 12, 2019, 08:05:08 AM »
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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1261 on: April 12, 2019, 09:20:54 AM »
They don't get to keep the clothes. This came up w AOC last year - when you do a shoot like that the magazine gives you clothes, you don't keep them.
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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1262 on: April 12, 2019, 10:34:33 AM »
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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1263 on: April 12, 2019, 11:06:19 AM »
Because people keep repeating the same lies, I'll just clarify:

1. They were skating and really pushing the limits in terms of moving the barricades, etc.
2. The security guy was doing his job, but clearly lost his cool (nowhere in the security guard handbook does it say that stepping to a big group of people by yourself is a good idea).
3. There was a scuffle.
4. The guard fell backwards and hit his head on the ground. He looks the way he does because the doctor had to remove part of his skull to relieve the pressure caused by his brain swelling. At no time was his head bashed in with a skateboard.
5. At any point, either of the parties could have avoided this by doing what they were supposed to (GX leaving, or the guard calling the police and/or more guards).
6. Shit happens. It sucks, but that's how it is. Enjoy your shit-free life and don't take the good parts for granted.

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7. GX ran away after security didnt get up.

I guess that's one of the reasons hardly anyone feels sorry for them.

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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1264 on: April 12, 2019, 03:35:57 PM »
True SF raw sk8ers run away like pussies and play dress up

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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1265 on: April 12, 2019, 03:56:01 PM »
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dude how many hearings does this guy have to have? i don't really follow how the judicial system works but is this normal to be seen this many times? also i assume he has a DA working for him not an actual lawyer.
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Roughly 98% of criminal cases are resolved via plea bargains, so simply going to court is really rare.
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  yeah the only time I got caught skateboarding was at Stanford University in Palo Alto it was a misdemeanor instead of an infraction because it was on the Stanford the grounds I had to get a lawyer to defend me
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Stanford was dope around 96-98, super fun ledges and hubba, never really got kicked out then.  SF was always cop/security drama from since I can remember.  Downtown San Jose was drama free for a minute too, never got a chance to session coral reef aka courthouse ...guess we need Jordan Peterson to represent us as public defender and skatestopper advocate lol
stanford is amazing its one big skatepark basically so many spots

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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1266 on: April 12, 2019, 04:01:23 PM »
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dude how many hearings does this guy have to have? i don't really follow how the judicial system works but is this normal to be seen this many times? also i assume he has a DA working for him not an actual lawyer.
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Roughly 98% of criminal cases are resolved via plea bargains, so simply going to court is really rare.
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  yeah the only time I got caught skateboarding was at Stanford University in Palo Alto it was a misdemeanor instead of an infraction because it was on the Stanford the grounds I had to get a lawyer to defend me
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Stanford was dope around 96-98, super fun ledges and hubba, never really got kicked out then.  SF was always cop/security drama from since I can remember.  Downtown San Jose was drama free for a minute too, never got a chance to session coral reef aka courthouse ...guess we need Jordan Peterson to represent us as public defender and skatestopper advocate lol
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stanford is amazing its one big skatepark basically so many spots

Have you seen it recently. a ton of construction and new buildings, lots of pretty new hand rails and stairs.  I wouldnt dare skate that campus in 2019, campus police seems beefed up too.

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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1267 on: April 12, 2019, 04:28:28 PM »
Have you seen it recently. a ton of construction and new buildings, lots of pretty new hand rails and stairs.  I wouldnt dare skate that campus in 2019, campus police seems beefed up too.

The Stanford gap is one of those things that doesn't look as big on video as it is for real. My cousin went to grad skool there around 04-06 and we'd walk around campus from time to time - would ollie and 180 that gap when there. Always wanted to kickflip it but never got it. Never really saw campus popo during that time either.

p.s. next time anyone skates Stanford, just say you're a grad student and you live in Escondido Village lol.

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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1268 on: April 12, 2019, 04:58:20 PM »
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Have you seen it recently. a ton of construction and new buildings, lots of pretty new hand rails and stairs.  I wouldnt dare skate that campus in 2019, campus police seems beefed up too.
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The Stanford gap is one of those things that doesn't look as big on video as it is for real. My cousin went to grad skool there around 04-06 and we'd walk around campus from time to time - would ollie and 180 that gap when there. Always wanted to kickflip it but never got it. Never really saw campus popo during that time either.

p.s. next time anyone skates Stanford, just say you're a grad student and you live in Escondido Village lol.
   I got popped there twice they take e everything even your tape as evidence I don't know how pros get around the cops

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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1269 on: April 13, 2019, 08:28:05 AM »
His lawyer filed a motion to dismiss the charges but it was denied. Jury selection was Apr 10th. Trial starts next week.

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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1270 on: April 13, 2019, 09:29:57 AM »
His lawyer filed a motion to dismiss the charges but it was denied. Jury selection was Apr 10th. Trial starts next week.
Well that was rather optimistic of him, I wonder if he sweetened the pot by saying "please."

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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1271 on: April 13, 2019, 09:50:05 AM »
Going to trial is such a dumb idea.

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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1272 on: April 13, 2019, 09:54:37 AM »
Going to trial is such a dumb idea.
if the deal is 20 yrs, least in trial he has a chance to pawn the blame on someone else. my guess is on the date of trial they'll give him a deal he can live with.
i went to jail in SF 16 yrs ago, first court date they offered me 2 yrs upstate. 2nd court date, 6 months. 3rd court date, unsupervised probation, felony dropped to misdemeanor, get the hell outta here.
similar experiences in other states.

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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1273 on: April 13, 2019, 10:24:21 AM »
Jury selection already? That seems so quick. How can there not be more, and clearer footage? It's downtown SF. Figured it'd be wired for sound around black rock.

I had to wait 11.5 months to pick a jury, never waived my speey trial. Picked 8 jurors before breaking for lunch. 5 minutes in cell for bag lunch, my lawyer comes in to say they dismissed all 14 counts. If you don't feel your guilty, never take a deal, no matter how "sweet" it may seem. Personally, when the deal went from 10-25  years & habitual jacket, down to 2 years, I knew I was doing the right thing going to trial. Also, I DIDN'T DO IT. Violent cases are much different from drug cases though. No victim or victim advocates.  Lawyer said the only reason I got off was I didn't try to talk my way out of arrest, just immediately invoked my right to council. Codefendant's almost always going to try to put their trash on you. The fact Jesse is the only one charged makes it really seem like he is at fault. They'd definitely charge any others before his trial starts, if they're were ever going to. From the footage I saw, I'm surprised Insta Detox wasn't charged in some capacity.

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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1274 on: April 13, 2019, 10:32:26 AM »
Going to trial for him with this is such a dumb idea, how's that? They've had him in there since December on no bail because of how fucked his butt is. Have you ever had jury duty? Do you want those dipshits deciding your fate? I'd rather they take me out back and shoot me. The only reason I didn't take my deal was because I already knew it was getting dismissed and that took a year. No goddamn way am I letting my "peers" judge me they think security guards are cops and cops are soldiers and soldiers are heroes and now you're doing 15 years.

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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1275 on: April 13, 2019, 01:42:45 PM »
if he's found guilty and gets the max on all charges i believe it's 12 years. the footage we've seen definitely isn't conclusive. there is more footage as evidence based on what the defense attorney said in an interview in january. this could go either way, or he could get found guilty on one or two of the charges. lying about his involvement will play against him (also why he was denied bail).
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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1276 on: April 13, 2019, 02:15:41 PM »
Jury selection already? That seems so quick. How can there not be more, and clearer footage? It's downtown SF. Figured it'd be wired for sound around black rock.

I had to wait 11.5 months to pick a jury, never waived my speey trial. Picked 8 jurors before breaking for lunch. 5 minutes in cell for bag lunch, my lawyer comes in to say they dismissed all 14 counts. If you don't feel your guilty, never take a deal, no matter how "sweet" it may seem. Personally, when the deal went from 10-25  years & habitual jacket, down to 2 years, I knew I was doing the right thing going to trial. Also, I DIDN'T DO IT. Violent cases are much different from drug cases though. No victim or victim advocates.  Lawyer said the only reason I got off was I didn't try to talk my way out of arrest, just immediately invoked my right to council. Codefendant's almost always going to try to put their trash on you. The fact Jesse is the only one charged makes it really seem like he is at fault. They'd definitely charge any others before his trial starts, if they're were ever going to. From the footage I saw, I'm surprised Insta Detox wasn't charged in some capacity.

Thats what I've been wondering. What if any of the 6 or 7 dudes in the wanted poster come forward? Have any of them been questioned yet? Or what if Jesse names them?

Trials have a fuck ton of variables. Doesn't look good.

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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1277 on: April 13, 2019, 02:20:14 PM »
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Going to trial is such a dumb idea.
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if the deal is 20 yrs, least in trial he has a chance to pawn the blame on someone else. my guess is on the date of trial they'll give him a deal he can live with.
i went to jail in SF 16 yrs ago, first court date they offered me 2 yrs upstate. 2nd court date, 6 months. 3rd court date, unsupervised probation, felony dropped to misdemeanor, get the hell outta here.
similar experiences in other states.

Uhhh why is this a reoccurring theme in your life?
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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1278 on: April 13, 2019, 02:25:19 PM »
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Going to trial is such a dumb idea.
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if the deal is 20 yrs, least in trial he has a chance to pawn the blame on someone else. my guess is on the date of trial they'll give him a deal he can live with.
i went to jail in SF 16 yrs ago, first court date they offered me 2 yrs upstate. 2nd court date, 6 months. 3rd court date, unsupervised probation, felony dropped to misdemeanor, get the hell outta here.
similar experiences in other states.
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Uhhh why is this a reoccurring theme in your life?
it's all capitalism's fault man!
i'm joking, i usedta drink a lot and get in fights, pass out where ever [sometimes w/ dope in pocket], shoplift, break into vacants and one time i didn't do anything but i didn't have a great alibi so i sat a month for [allegedy] robbing a gas station w/ a pistol. i was held sans bail that time, scary business!
thank goodness for cameras but asides that last one, all that shit went away when i stopped drinking.

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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1279 on: April 13, 2019, 06:32:22 PM »
A bunch of pussys those guys are ,watching how their "friend" is gonna do 10-12 years probably and do nothing about it....awful, seems like the  "friendship" was only for instagram and to sell.
oh and dont forget to go"fast with friends" haha
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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1280 on: April 13, 2019, 09:13:50 PM »
next court date is tomorrow. start of trial?
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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1281 on: April 13, 2019, 09:16:55 PM »
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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1282 on: April 13, 2019, 10:43:22 PM »
Going to trial is such a dumb idea.

You’re crazy. Always take it to the hoop.

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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1283 on: April 13, 2019, 11:37:35 PM »
Do you guys really fucking think that just because people not involved with in any goddamn capacity with the case haven’t seen any other footage/evidence means that there isn’t any other footage/evidence?

come fucking on. use your gildan thrasher hoodie adled brains. just because fucking slap magazine isn’t privy to evidence doesn’t mean it doesn’t fucking exist. 
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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1284 on: April 14, 2019, 01:28:25 AM »
The security dude may have overstepped his boundaries but Jesse Vieira fucked up, big time.

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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1285 on: April 14, 2019, 06:48:43 AM »
Do you guys really fucking think that just because people not involved with in any goddamn capacity with the case haven’t seen any other footage/evidence means that there isn’t any other footage/evidence?

come fucking on. use your gildan thrasher hoodie adled brains. just because fucking slap magazine isn’t privy to evidence doesn’t mean it doesn’t fucking exist.

Jesse's lawyer has already said that one of the filmers has HD footage of the incident that was suppossed to exonerate his client. I guess they are sitting on it in preparation for the trial.

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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1286 on: April 14, 2019, 06:57:33 AM »
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Do you guys really fucking think that just because people not involved with in any goddamn capacity with the case haven’t seen any other footage/evidence means that there isn’t any other footage/evidence?

come fucking on. use your gildan thrasher hoodie adled brains. just because fucking slap magazine isn’t privy to evidence doesn’t mean it doesn’t fucking exist.
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Jesse's lawyer has already said that one of the filmers has HD footage of the incident that was suppossed to exonerate his client. I guess they are sitting on it in preparation for the trial.

they probably have some audio of the security guard calling them by a slur or something...

but that ain't going to get this guy off the hook

personally I dislike the GX dudes, that GQ feature they did where the guys were wearing prada and gucci talking about how rad and dangerous they were came off as really lame and conceited

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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1287 on: April 14, 2019, 07:46:14 AM »
I think its enough of a clusterfuck to take that shit to trial bitch. Unless he got offered a good ass plea. What is he facing? Im not about to look up cali law.

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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1288 on: April 14, 2019, 08:48:39 AM »
I don’t know you guys there just aren’t enough hypothetical situations being run through here can everyone direct there energy towards making another 40 pages plz

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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1289 on: April 14, 2019, 08:53:35 AM »
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Do you guys really fucking think that just because people not involved with in any goddamn capacity with the case haven’t seen any other footage/evidence means that there isn’t any other footage/evidence?

come fucking on. use your gildan thrasher hoodie adled brains. just because fucking slap magazine isn’t privy to evidence doesn’t mean it doesn’t fucking exist.
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Jesse's lawyer has already said that one of the filmers has HD footage of the incident that was suppossed to exonerate his client. I guess they are sitting on it in preparation for the trial.
They can’t just wait until the middle of the trial and surprise everyone with this evidence. The DA has seen it. There’s still charges.