Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock

[planman]

Lmao when did we go back to backing this guy?

[breakingthewaves]

I feel like Pizza Skateboards looks even more like kooks now for dropping this dude way before the trial ended when he ultimately got the charges dismissed. Way to stand behind your team rider. innocent until proven guilty is not a law Pizza Skateboards believes in I guess. He should be a pro for GX1000 now.

he was back on pizza before the trial started.

[Abyss1]

Lmao when did we go back to backing this guy?

well Im not hating or backing, this just goes to show how none of us knows what the fuck really happened nor will no one get the full story

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Lmao when did we go back to backing this guy?

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well Im not hating or backing, this just goes to show how none of us knows what the fuck really happened nor will no one get the full story

no one knows the full truth yet but obviously ryan’s close up capture of this encounter was responsible for his release. everyone needs to stop jumping to conclusions with the little information that the media has shown us.

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Lmao when did we go back to backing this guy?

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well Im not hating or backing, this just goes to show how none of us knows what the fuck really happened nor will no one get the full story

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no one knows the full truth yet but obviously ryan’s close up capture of this encounter was responsible for his release. everyone needs to stop jumping to conclusions with the little information that the media has shown us.

you jumped to a conclusion then in the next sentence told people to stop jumping to conclusions lol.

vieira had a mistrial then stayed in jail because the prosecution intended to re-try the case. his next court date was scheduled for june 21.

i would speculate that the prosecution was maybe gunning for a plea deal that they couldn't get and didn't feel confident they would win the second trial and so dropped the charges. but i have no idea. and zero new info so far except for that instagram post.

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Lmao when did we go back to backing this guy?

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well Im not hating or backing, this just goes to show how none of us knows what the fuck really happened nor will no one get the full story

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no one knows the full truth yet but obviously ryan’s close up capture of this encounter was responsible for his release. everyone needs to stop jumping to conclusions with the little information that the media has shown us.

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you jumped to a conclusion then in the next sentence told people to stop jumping to conclusions lol.

vieira had a mistrial then stayed in jail because the prosecution intended to re-try the case. his next court date was scheduled for june 21.

i would speculate that the prosecution was maybe gunning for a plea deal that they couldn't get and didn't feel confident they would win the second trial and so dropped the charges. but i have no idea. and zero new info so far except for that instagram post.

nah you're right, i was drunk as shit when i typed that. still from what i was told that's what happened though.

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Lmao when did we go back to backing this guy?

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well Im not hating or backing, this just goes to show how none of us knows what the fuck really happened nor will no one get the full story

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no one knows the full truth yet but obviously ryan’s close up capture of this encounter was responsible for his release. everyone needs to stop jumping to conclusions with the little information that the media has shown us.

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you jumped to a conclusion then in the next sentence told people to stop jumping to conclusions lol.

vieira had a mistrial then stayed in jail because the prosecution intended to re-try the case. his next court date was scheduled for june 21.

i would speculate that the prosecution was maybe gunning for a plea deal that they couldn't get and didn't feel confident they would win the second trial and so dropped the charges. but i have no idea. and zero new info so far except for that instagram post.

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nah you're right, i was drunk as shit when i typed that. still from what i was told that's what happened though.

I think it's normal not to get released immediately. I beat a case after serving 11 months. They didn't release me for 2 weeks after the case was closed.  The state gets angry when they spend all that money and loose, without fines and fees to recoup the costs.

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Lmao when did we go back to backing this guy?

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well Im not hating or backing, this just goes to show how none of us knows what the fuck really happened nor will no one get the full story

[close]

no one knows the full truth yet but obviously ryan’s close up capture of this encounter was responsible for his release. everyone needs to stop jumping to conclusions with the little information that the media has shown us.

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you jumped to a conclusion then in the next sentence told people to stop jumping to conclusions lol.

vieira had a mistrial then stayed in jail because the prosecution intended to re-try the case. his next court date was scheduled for june 21.

i would speculate that the prosecution was maybe gunning for a plea deal that they couldn't get and didn't feel confident they would win the second trial and so dropped the charges. but i have no idea. and zero new info so far except for that instagram post.

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nah you're right, i was drunk as shit when i typed that. still from what i was told that's what happened though.

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I think it's normal not to get released immediately. I beat a case after serving 11 months. They didn't release me for 2 weeks after the case was closed.  The state gets angry when they spend all that money and loose, without fines and fees to recoup the costs.

You were guilty as fuck though, right?

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Lmao when did we go back to backing this guy?

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well Im not hating or backing, this just goes to show how none of us knows what the fuck really happened nor will no one get the full story

[close]

no one knows the full truth yet but obviously ryan’s close up capture of this encounter was responsible for his release. everyone needs to stop jumping to conclusions with the little information that the media has shown us.

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you jumped to a conclusion then in the next sentence told people to stop jumping to conclusions lol.

vieira had a mistrial then stayed in jail because the prosecution intended to re-try the case. his next court date was scheduled for june 21.

i would speculate that the prosecution was maybe gunning for a plea deal that they couldn't get and didn't feel confident they would win the second trial and so dropped the charges. but i have no idea. and zero new info so far except for that instagram post.

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nah you're right, i was drunk as shit when i typed that. still from what i was told that's what happened though.

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I think it's normal not to get released immediately. I beat a case after serving 11 months. They didn't release me for 2 weeks after the case was closed.  The state gets angry when they spend all that money and loose, without fines and fees to recoup the costs.

wait what? 2 weeks?  what do you mean by closed? as in dismissed?

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Lmao when did we go back to backing this guy?

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well Im not hating or backing, this just goes to show how none of us knows what the fuck really happened nor will no one get the full story

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no one knows the full truth yet but obviously ryan’s close up capture of this encounter was responsible for his release. everyone needs to stop jumping to conclusions with the little information that the media has shown us.

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you jumped to a conclusion then in the next sentence told people to stop jumping to conclusions lol.

vieira had a mistrial then stayed in jail because the prosecution intended to re-try the case. his next court date was scheduled for june 21.

i would speculate that the prosecution was maybe gunning for a plea deal that they couldn't get and didn't feel confident they would win the second trial and so dropped the charges. but i have no idea. and zero new info so far except for that instagram post.

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nah you're right, i was drunk as shit when i typed that. still from what i was told that's what happened though.

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I think it's normal not to get released immediately. I beat a case after serving 11 months. They didn't release me for 2 weeks after the case was closed.  The state gets angry when they spend all that money and loose, without fines and fees to recoup the costs.

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wait what? 2 weeks?  what do you mean by closed? as in dismissed?

I wasn't guilty. Obviously.
We had picked 7-8 jurors we were very excited to get.  Suddenly got dismissed during lunch break. Thought I'd be out that day, but should've never had the charges filled to begin with. Denver sent two sheriff's on a 2 night trip to come fly me back to Denver.  The prosecutor came every day after it was dismissed trying to get me to sign a time served M3 deal also agreeing to pay for plane tickets and hotel etc before he refiled F3 and habitualized me.  My lawyer had to file something with the judge about harassment to finally get me released.  I was afraid for years they'd refile out of nowhere.  And it wasn't anything violent that had victims involved at all.  Glad I spent my savings on hiring Michael Stepanian (NORML) to send me in the right direction, instead of bailing out and having a public defender.

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Where's that guy who pissed on his GX1000 board?

[Cool Ceith]

Not again…

https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/Skateboard-attack-in-SF-s-Mission-District-14017811.php?psid=aJ8ag

[GeorgeCostanza]

Damn it's almost like kids don't understand the consequence of such an act due to the cowardly inability of the industry to even address the topic. (And in some cases promote it)

[BacksideWallride]

What happened the other day? Wasn't there a new trial or some shit on the 21st?

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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/07/25/sports/a-security-worker-confronted-the-skateboarders-he-ended-up-with-brain-damage.html

[jerrygurneyscream]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/07/25/sports/a-security-worker-confronted-the-skateboarders-he-ended-up-with-brain-damage.html

That was much different than how everyone was saying. That dude wasnt out there to talk he was out there to be a fuckin tough guy. Its a shame that it ended the way it did but that seemed more like a freak accident than anything.

[Mystical Leader]

yeah that security guard was in for blood but I feel like Brian Delatorre of CONS and HABITAT was the main instigator in this shit. Jesse Viera of PIZZA just gave the last blow that send the guard to vegetative state..



 

[fang]

yeah that security guard was in for blood but I feel like Brian Delatorre of CONS and HABITAT was the main instigator in this shit. Jesse Viera of PIZZA just gave the last blow that send the guard to vegetative state..

Interesting way to describe it,  Mystical Leader of Slap messageboards

[offkilter]

Slap screenshots are making it into the NYTimes.

[augustmoon]

yeah that security guard was in for blood but I feel like Brian Delatorre of CONS and HABITAT was the main instigator in this shit. Jesse Viera of PIZZA just gave the last blow that send the guard to vegetative state..

"instigator"...he pushed a guy that was attacking him.  thats it. 

[Painted Baby]

So there's the footage. Dan Jensen was going in pretty hard. I'm not saying he deserved what happened to him at all but I really do not get why he thought he should just start smacking everybody. Call the cops man. That's the protocol.

[Alan]

That was much different than how everyone was saying. That dude wasnt out there to talk he was out there to be a fuckin tough guy. Its a shame that it ended the way it did but that seemed more like a freak accident than anything.

When I'm out for blood I also throw a skateboard and then wait for someone to push me.

[rlang]

when you're already outnumbering a dude 10:1, and he doesn't have anything in his hands, and you crack him in the head with your skateboard, you're a little fucking bitch. Learn how to fight or just don't be a tough guy. Doesn't even matter if the SG was out of line, he probably was...but that's no fucking excuse, nobody there was in any danger. 

[Kombuch-A-Holic]

Out for blood? You fucking kook. Jesus. Hitting someone with a skateboard is a pussy ass move.

[slobplant]

Jesse clocked him with his board for sure

[Donkey Lips]

That dude wasnt out there to talk he was out there to be a fuckin tough guy.

Tries to get people to stop skating the ledges (because that's his fucking job). Tosses a board into the street out of frustration from obviously nobody complying with him trying to get people to stop skating the ledges. Gets shoved by a member of a group who then approaches him again, and then he attempts to defend himself as one person against a group of potential aggressors...and you say he's out there being "a fuckin tough guy". Ok.

[30somethinghasbeen]

when you're already outnumbering a dude 10:1, and he doesn't have anything in his hands, and you crack him in the head with your skateboard, you're a little fucking bitch. Learn how to fight or just don't be a tough guy. Doesn't even matter if the SG was out of line, he probably was...but that's no fucking excuse, nobody there was in any danger.

Completely agree.

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That dude wasnt out there to talk he was out there to be a fuckin tough guy.

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Tries to get people to stop skating the ledges (because that's his fucking job). Tosses a board into the street out of frustration from obviously nobody complying with him trying to get people to stop skating the ledges. Gets shoved by a member of a group who then approaches him again, and then he attempts to defend himself as one person against a group of potential aggressors...and you say he's out there being "a fuckin tough guy". Ok.

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The guard's job is to get people to stop skating the ledges, but attacking perpetrators goes beyond his job duties. When it reached that point (which it absolutely should not have, and that's not initially his fault), he should have gone inside and called the cops. I know he had previously spoken online about his frustration and desire to attack skateboarders, so his hands are hardly clean. He also blindly lashed out at someone who, as the video shows, hadn't instigated the attack or acted aggressively towards him.

Bottom line: there is shared responsibility, and every single person involved should have just walked the fuck away.

Attacking perpetrators seems like a pretty dishonest interpretation of what happened. He attempted to get people to stop skateboarding and a skateboarder instigated an attack on him. I doubt most people would think "I was just shoved. I should go inside, call the police and wait patiently". The guy thought he was being attacked, because he was, and went into defense mode. He got pitched to the ground and somebody off camera definitely threw his walkie or something at him. I wouldn't call that "blindly lashing out". He got up to confront that person that threw an object at him and he got surrounded.

Should he have retreated and gone inside? Sure. Was he the instigator in this situation? Absolutely fucking not.

[weregoingunion]

glad one dude knew better than to get involved and dipped right away.

[arrbee]

I was watching on my phone, but from what I saw Jesse punches the guard with his board in his hand. A bit of a stretch from using a board to deliver the blow. The shot that dropped the guard was all fist. His head hitting the marble ground is most likely what caused the damage.

As for De La looked like he grinded the ledge into the guard putting the barrier up. I couldn’t tell if the guard may have struck him prior to throwing the board. But De La came off the ledge pushing. He definitely escalated it. He could have just grabbed the board and took off. Once he pushed everyone else jumped in.