Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock

[Dad Board]

Yeah these guys can all burn in karmatic justice when their time comes

Whats the deal with San Francisco? Is it really as fucked as the media makes it out to be? I can't help but think they were emboldened to do what they did because of the either real or perceived chaos of SF.

One of the biggest shit head sociopaths I knew growing up moved out there from NYC with his gf recently, but last I heard they moved to Los Angels because it was too "hectic"

I don’t live there but have visited and stayed there often enough throughout the years. It used to be a really chill city in most areas, lots of little pockets of culture and things to explore. Lately it’s become sort of a dystopian nightmare where half of the population is tech bro/hedge fund sociopaths and the other half is literally down to do anything to survive. It’s not the same city it was a decade ago. It’s still beautiful and there’s still culture but it’s being strangled out every year as cost of living rises and people are being forced onto the street or to move elsewhere. Much of the soul of the city has been driven out leaving transplants that either arrived in a Tesla or a greyhound. I was standing a few streets away from market when I went to visit the UN plaza a few months ago and it was some zombie movie shit. Literally crowds of people laying on the filthy ground and walking around screaming/talking to nobody. It’s fuckin sad and I hope something saves it. Legit felt like Gotham from the dark knight and that was just during the afternoon.

[EdLawndale]

The whole Bay Area rules, including SF.

[the_dangery_bois]

Can you imagine how bummed out the machine elves must be getting?

…it seems like every time I hear about someone doing ayahuasca, the person is a massive bozo.

You know how rescuers will hide in rubble after earthquakes so that search dogs don’t get depressed?

 People are going to have to do some shit like that for the machine elves.

[BacksideWallride]

Was it confirmed that Dela shoved him and not Jessie? How'd they get away with this... Crazy

[planman]

Worth mentioning because I think it's oft forgotten about these days, but P-Spliff is still alive right now (or at the very least doesn't die when he did) if this incident never happens.

[potpie]

 

[dr.prestige]

so sick of people who don't live in the bay speaking on SF's gentrification and homelessness issues

[Fartknocker415]

Yeah these guys can all burn in karmatic justice when their time comes

Whats the deal with San Francisco? Is it really as fucked as the media makes it out to be? I can't help but think they were emboldened to do what they did because of the either real or perceived chaos of SF.

One of the biggest shit head sociopaths I knew growing up moved out there from NYC with his gf recently, but last I heard they moved to Los Angels because it was too "hectic"

I mean the black rock shit happened 6 years ago

[Dad Board]

so sick of people who don't live in the bay speaking on SF's gentrification and homelessness issues

You don’t have to live there to see it for what it is, my dude. I live an hour and a half away and have been making trips and staying out there since the late 90’s. Also no idea how anyone not making an absurd amount of money or sharing a small apartment with 8 other people can even live in the city anyway.

[GAY]

SF is a turd of a city held together by duct tape.

[Atiba Applebum]

I moved away in 2006.   I can always hold on to a memory of the City before tech moved in

[EdLawndale]

The first time I ever saw a lady squat in the middle of the street and take a piss then wipe herself with a paper bag was in SF circa 2000. Granted, I don't have kids, but I really see no problem with it (pretty harmless and gives the city character, imo, plus I've pissed in my fair share of streets so who am I to judge).

[Abyss1]

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so sick of people who don't live in the bay speaking on SF's gentrification and homelessness issues

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You don’t have to live there to see it for what it is, my dude. I live an hour and a half away and have been making trips and staying out there since the late 90’s. Also no idea how anyone not making an absurd amount of money or sharing a small apartment with 8 other people can even live in the city anyway.

A bunch of art schools in SF, I knew a lot of people who rent and its ridiculous.    .

The first time I ever saw a lady squat in the middle of the street and take a piss then wipe herself with a paper bag was in SF circa 2000. Granted, I don't have kids, but I really see no problem with it (pretty harmless and gives the city character, imo, plus I've pissed in my fair share of streets so who am I to judge).

used to work in SF in 09-11 and saw someone do a full diarrhea dump right in the middle of the sidewalk I was walking down...probably one of the grossest things ever seen.   First time I saw anyone do Heroin was in broad daylight outside the office i used to work in.

[emotional_degloving]

Man I've been looking through this thread because it reminded me this happened and every time I think about this shit or see what happened to that security guard I actually feel fucking ill. Like I already hated GX for having rapists on the crew but there's a legit horror to this shit, dude has a chunk of his skull out and is waited on hand and foot for the rest of his life. Like fucking hell man.

[jgonzalez]

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so sick of people who don't live in the bay speaking on SF's gentrification and homelessness issues

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You don’t have to live there to see it for what it is, my dude. I live an hour and a half away and have been making trips and staying out there since the late 90’s. Also no idea how anyone not making an absurd amount of money or sharing a small apartment with 8 other people can even live in the city anyway.

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[SirRustyofMaine]

I had an MRI recently and as soon as I stepped out the scanner room I was face to face with someone with half their head gone being escorted down the hall. I had to fight back any emotional response but it was super heartbreaking and instantly put my problems into perspective

[FatGuy92]

so sick of people who don't live in the bay speaking on SF's gentrification and homelessness issues

Thank you

[Lowcalcium]

Only thing I know about San Francisco is the Rice O Roni commercials and Danny Tanner’s sick Victorian townhouse across from the park.

RIP Mr. Saget

[Dad Board]

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so sick of people who don't live in the bay speaking on SF's gentrification and homelessness issues

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You don’t have to live there to see it for what it is, my dude. I live an hour and a half away and have been making trips and staying out there since the late 90’s. Also no idea how anyone not making an absurd amount of money or sharing a small apartment with 8 other people can even live in the city anyway.

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If someone from another area came to Sac and said “goddamn y’all have a shit ton of homeless camps all over the sidewalks, seems like it’s pretty out of control eh” I wouldn’t respond with “you can’t talk about it because you’re not from here” that’s just asinine. People from the bay that want to claim ownership so hard should fucking petition their local officials constantly until something is done. Or is the implication that the problem is being blown out of proportion? I’m not clear on why it’s an issue for someone who doesn’t reside in the Bay to comment on the overwhelming evidence that the city has taken a nosedive in the last decade +. I’ve literally seen the city change from a cool place overall to having some of the worst pockets of filth and inequality in the nation. No dis to SF or its natives in any way. I still enjoy going there but someone asked about how it’s doing, why doesn’t someone who lives there weigh in instead of voicing their annoyance at my outsider perspective?

[Lou Strux]

I live in SF.
I was born here.

The city has its share of problems, to be sure & two of the biggest issues right now, homelessness & an abundance of high-grade drugs, drug usage, and the attendant issues that go along with that just happen to overlap each other in a way that yields a very visible social mess.
The real estate market & rents are still nutty too, only compounding the problem further.

But I’m basically a glorified bartender, married to an artist, with two littles & a cat, yet we manage to make mortgage payments & feed/clothe these kids, while enjoying what I consider a pretty reasonable quality of life compared to when I was younger.

The city puts on tons of rad family friendly public events all over town, helps us out with the kids medical bills & mandates that my employers don’t dick me & my crew around.
Plus, we got multiple skateparks & those hills, need I go on? Not to mention the gorgeous scenery, beautiful cultures & people, delicious (if not pricy) dining options, as well as all of the other accoutrement that comes along with being an international city.

My family & I feel safe in our neighborhood; all the folks in our neighborhood know us & call my kids by name.
I’m not in a fancy part of town either.
I’m just a few doors of Mission, in the hair cutting district of “Papusa Row.” We’ve got projects, a public school & a park all on our block & it’s kind of a little slice of heaven.

Yes there are more homeless here now than in the past, and yes the drugs are way stronger then they have been historically, but I’ve been here in the bay most all of my 52 years & honestly I don’t recall a time WITHOUT visible drugs & homelessness. Not to mention, homeless & drug usage figures are on the rise in cities all over the country. People just flock to California for our warmer weather & friendlier (liberal) social policies.
 
I dunno… Maybe I’m numb to it, but frankly I embrace the filth & the “crazies” as part of our city.

Tech bros, on the other hand, and their disregard/disdain for local history & tradition can basically fuck right off as far as I’m concerned. 
Entitled cunts.

Sooo… that’s my take on the liberal hellscape that is San Francisco.

[Nosferatu]

If the only place you go in SF is around UN Plaza then yeah it looks like a hellscape. Otherwise it’s fine. The bipping sucks tho.

[Dad Board]

I live in SF.
I was born here.

The city has its share of problems, to be sure & two of the biggest issues right now, homelessness & an abundance of high-grade drugs, drug usage, and the attendant issues that go along with that just happen to overlap each other in a way that yields a very visible social mess.
The real estate market & rents are still nutty too, only compounding the problem further.

But I’m basically a glorified bartender, married to an artist, with two littles & a cat, yet we manage to make mortgage payments & feed/clothe these kids, while enjoying what I consider a pretty reasonable quality of life compared to when I was younger.

The city puts on tons of rad family friendly public events all over town, helps us out with the kids medical bills & mandates that my employers don’t dick me & my crew around.
Plus, we got multiple skateparks & those hills, need I go on? Not to mention the gorgeous scenery, beautiful cultures & people, delicious (if not pricy) dining options, as well as all of the other accoutrement that comes along with being an international city.

My family & I feel safe in our neighborhood; all the folks in our neighborhood know us & call my kids by name.
I’m not in a fancy part of town either.
I’m just a few doors of Mission, in the hair cutting district of “Papusa Row.” We’ve got projects, a public school & a park all on our block & it’s kind of a little slice of heaven.

Yes there are more homeless here now than in the past, and yes the drugs are way stronger then they have been historically, but I’ve been here in the bay most all of my 52 years & honestly I don’t recall a time WITHOUT visible drugs & homelessness. Not to mention, homeless & drug usage figures are on the rise in cities all over the country. People just flock to California for our warmer weather & friendlier (liberal) social policies.
 
I dunno… Maybe I’m numb to it, but frankly I embrace the filth & the “crazies” as part of our city.

Tech bros, on the other hand, and their disregard/disdain for local history & tradition can basically fuck right off as far as I’m concerned. 
Entitled cunts.

Sooo… that’s my take on the liberal hellscape that is San Francisco.

I apologize if I came off as arrogant or appearing to know more than I do. I have great memories of going there in my teens and 20’s but in hindsight a lot of those memories were from visits and stays outside of the main downtown areas so maybe my memories are skewed with the current reality of the places I’ve been recently which are admittedly the skate tourism hotspots. I do share your sentiment about the tech bros fucking the whole ecosystem, but if anything the problems facing SF are merely a symptom of a greater sickness that’s spread across the entire country. Your point about homeless migration is very true as well. Again, sorry if I was being arrogant or overly critical.

[stevedave]

I live in SF.
I was born here.

The city has its share of problems, to be sure & two of the biggest issues right now, homelessness & an abundance of high-grade drugs, drug usage, and the attendant issues that go along with that just happen to overlap each other in a way that yields a very visible social mess.
The real estate market & rents are still nutty too, only compounding the problem further.

But I’m basically a glorified bartender, married to an artist, with two littles & a cat, yet we manage to make mortgage payments & feed/clothe these kids, while enjoying what I consider a pretty reasonable quality of life compared to when I was younger.

The city puts on tons of rad family friendly public events all over town, helps us out with the kids medical bills & mandates that my employers don’t dick me & my crew around.
Plus, we got multiple skateparks & those hills, need I go on? Not to mention the gorgeous scenery, beautiful cultures & people, delicious (if not pricy) dining options, as well as all of the other accoutrement that comes along with being an international city.

My family & I feel safe in our neighborhood; all the folks in our neighborhood know us & call my kids by name.
I’m not in a fancy part of town either.
I’m just a few doors of Mission, in the hair cutting district of “Papusa Row.” We’ve got projects, a public school & a park all on our block & it’s kind of a little slice of heaven.

Yes there are more homeless here now than in the past, and yes the drugs are way stronger then they have been historically, but I’ve been here in the bay most all of my 52 years & honestly I don’t recall a time WITHOUT visible drugs & homelessness. Not to mention, homeless & drug usage figures are on the rise in cities all over the country. People just flock to California for our warmer weather & friendlier (liberal) social policies.
 
I dunno… Maybe I’m numb to it, but frankly I embrace the filth & the “crazies” as part of our city.

Tech bros, on the other hand, and their disregard/disdain for local history & tradition can basically fuck right off as far as I’m concerned. 
Entitled cunts.

Sooo… that’s my take on the liberal hellscape that is San Francisco.

Thank you. As a longtime resident of SF and familiar with its history, you are spot on. The city is looked at under a microscope by people from the outside who tend to forget that historically, SF is a boom and bust city. Part of the biggest problems of the city today are directly related to its greatest accomplishments of the last 20 years. I could go on and on, but will spare yall the history and pos/neg points. And if you really wanna see a city in a bad way right now, cross the bridge and go to Oakland. It’s crazy.

[Ricky Vaughn]

How high can u guys ollie

[who da thunk it]

Worth mentioning because I think it's oft forgotten about these days, but P-Spliff is still alive right now (or at the very least doesn't die when he did) if this incident never happens.

Dude was destined to get killed by a motor vehicle, his passion in life was playing in traffic... If the Black Rock shit never went down I don't think he would have made it two more years before getting ran over. He was one of the most perfect embodiments of "live fast die young", and trying to act like his death is someone else's fault is just silly.

[GAY]

How high can u guys ollie

Bruh nobody in here can ollie.

[frontsideNECKTIE]

ITT:

GX1000 and tech bros killed SF

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On a more sincere note, my small-ish city in the PNW has many of these same issues in the downtown/inner city. A lot of these problems aren't entirely unique to SF.

I find people sleeping/nodding, foilies, and burnt spoons in the skatepark bathroom downtown all the time - the skatepark is part of the most notable public park in the center of the city. Theres a large, popular playground a stones throw from the bathroom, so you know numerous kids have seen some shit there.

Makes me think of the conversations I'll need to have with my son when he's of the age to notice or understand.

Is there any large/semi-large city that is completely void of any homeless and doesn't have big tech trying to creep in?

Btw, touching write-up Lou, gave me some feels when I read through that last night

[IUTSM]

SF, like Portland, is an easy target for the media to attack, right, left, or center. Id rather live in northern CA or PDX than jist about anywhere else


The sorts of problems we are seeing on TV or online or when passing thru the aforementioned city centers, are starting to exist with prevalence everywhere. I was on the west coast for 12 years and recently went back east to the small city where i came from, where my people have lived since immigrating here 100 years ago. There were always small pockets of unhoused people, but its gotten off the hook here, much like i saw in the small town/area i lived in on the west coast. People living outside, squatting abandoned properties, tarped up RVs, vehicles with tarped windows in parking lots, people flying signs on many corners. The library, the public library is perhaps most indicative in that when i go in, im seeing dozens of people sleeping rather than doing anything else.


Again, it goes back to that, no matter how its spun with economics created by dominant narrative, we are in the midst of a huge, the largest economic and social downturn. We see Dorothea Lange photos from the dustbowl, but not the “hobo” jungles and camps on the edge of cities. Its not so different than what today

[mj23]

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Yeah these guys can all burn in karmatic justice when their time comes

Whats the deal with San Francisco? Is it really as fucked as the media makes it out to be? I can't help but think they were emboldened to do what they did because of the either real or perceived chaos of SF.

One of the biggest shit head sociopaths I knew growing up moved out there from NYC with his gf recently, but last I heard they moved to Los Angels because it was too "hectic"

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I don’t live there but have visited and stayed there often enough throughout the years. It used to be a really chill city in most areas, lots of little pockets of culture and things to explore. Lately it’s become sort of a dystopian nightmare where half of the population is tech bro/hedge fund sociopaths and the other half is literally down to do anything to survive. It’s not the same city it was a decade ago. It’s still beautiful and there’s still culture but it’s being strangled out every year as cost of living rises and people are being forced onto the street or to move elsewhere. Much of the soul of the city has been driven out leaving transplants that either arrived in a Tesla or a greyhound. I was standing a few streets away from market when I went to visit the UN plaza a few months ago and it was some zombie movie shit. Literally crowds of people laying on the filthy ground and walking around screaming/talking to nobody. It’s fuckin sad and I hope something saves it. Legit felt like Gotham from the dark knight and that was just during the afternoon.

i visited SF after a few years away this summer and i was all prepared to believe the propaganda about how lawless it is but honestly it was fine.

if anything, my friends living there are actually happier now than they were 5-10 years ago because the most annoying tech industry dipshits have finally just moved to austin or boise or whatever other small low-tax city like they wanted to all along.

[stevedave]

^^^THIS!!! A lot of the people that are still here are happier because the people that are still here WANT to be here and aren’t just here for a job. Those are the people that complained about the city the most. They knew nothing of its history, came for work and have since left. And a lot of the problems we face are BECAUSE people came here ONLY for money and then left as soon as they could, leaving voids in employment as well as everything else causing businesses to shutter, residents to lose jobs, and a direct increase in homelessness. Are there other factors? Sure, but I’ll still take SF over any other place.

“There’s only 3 cities in the world. New York, San Francisco and New Orleans. Everywhere else is Cleveland” - Tennessee Williams