Twin tail

[MysticalTypeExperience]

Looks like && is coming out with a twin tailboard, slightly squared off. No weird bumps or corners, just another corny VCJ graphic. And a shorter WB, 14.5. Maybe a touch under 9 inches.

I shaved the corners off  and brought the wheelbase in on the old && I had and actually really like it. Especially with all the graphics rubbed off.

He said the width will be in between the two sizes of his old decks (8.45" and 9.13") so it should be around 8.75"

...Which is my goldilocks size. Fuck now I'm gonna need to join the && board cult.

[backinaction]

Twin && Flight.    8.7, but 8.5 at the trucks.

https://powell-peralta.com/powell-peralta-pro-andy-anderson-heron-2-flight-skateboard-deck-egg-shape-301-8-7-x-32-3-k20

[Sloppy Krooks]

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Looks like && is coming out with a twin tailboard, slightly squared off. No weird bumps or corners, just another corny VCJ graphic. And a shorter WB, 14.5. Maybe a touch under 9 inches.

I shaved the corners off  and brought the wheelbase in on the old && I had and actually really like it. Especially with all the graphics rubbed off.

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He said the width will be in between the two sizes of his old decks (8.45" and 9.13") so it should be around 8.75"

...Which is my goldilocks size. Fuck now I'm gonna need to join the && board cult.

Looks like 8.7, 8.5 over the trucks.
I don’t want to buy a new pair of trucks  just for the board, I might pass

[Xen]

"while street tricking"



Street. Tricking.

[iw0]

surprised they didn't have an arrow with specific reasons and usage for the bolt holes

can someone explain egged rails to me

[Sloppy Krooks]

"while street tricking"



Street. Tricking.

Powell on prostitution?

[pointandclick]

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Looks like && is coming out with a twin tailboard, slightly squared off. No weird bumps or corners, just another corny VCJ graphic. And a shorter WB, 14.5. Maybe a touch under 9 inches.

I shaved the corners off  and brought the wheelbase in on the old && I had and actually really like it. Especially with all the graphics rubbed off.

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He said the width will be in between the two sizes of his old decks (8.45" and 9.13") so it should be around 8.75"

...Which is my goldilocks size. Fuck now I'm gonna need to join the && board cult.

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Looks like 8.7, 8.5 over the trucks.
I don’t want to buy a new pair of trucks  just for the board, I might pass

lol that they made the crane logo an "&"

[Sloppy Krooks]

Holy shit, they did!

Is this the first time a SLAP inside joke has gotten a graphic?

[Xen]

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Nice to have another square tip option…not sure about that wb tho

[Xen]

&& is available $109.95

https://www.skateone.com/powell-peralta-pro-andy-anderson-heron-2-flight-skateboard-deck-egg-shape-301-8-7-x-32-3-k20

[Xen]

Anyone ride the 8.25 ishod tt?

Curious how it stacks up to the regs dlx 8.25 (with the 14.38WB) and/or the full SE 8.25 (14.25wb). Knowing the ishod TT has a 14.33WB..I'm more concnered with the 'fullness' of the kicks and how they stack up to the other 8.25s.

I've been riding a shorter creature (slick) 8.25 with a 14.22 WB, but it's a bit rounded (but not full)...today I made the decision (mistake?) to ride a board that is closer in dims to the 8.25 FULL SE I've got coming, it was the Quasi 8.37/14.25wb twin which feels like a 'small' 8.3 or a 'big' 8.25...had a blast on it and was reminded how nice it is to not think about board direction...wondering how close the 8.25 ishod twin would stack up.

[Richard Skidder]

After standing on one in the shop I will say that both ends are shaped exactly like the tail on the DLX 8.25 14.38. The TT is just a tad shorter. Being so used to the directional 8.25 14.38 it made the TT look “backwards “ to me when I was standing on it. I’m sure it’s something I would get used to looking at pretty quickly and I’m still thinking about going back for it.

[Xen]

After standing on one in the shop I will say that both ends are shaped exactly like the tail on the DLX 8.25 14.38. The TT is just a tad shorter. Being so used to the directional 8.25 14.38 it made the TT look “backwards “ to me when I was standing on it. I’m sure it’s something I would get used to looking at pretty quickly and I’m still thinking about going back for it.

Thanks for that! I'll  have to find one to stand on to get the feel (no TT around me locally without a hefty drive).

That Quasi is damn fun in case anyone is on the fence maybe I'll ice the FULL SE and pick up another quasi twin since this one is done.

[Big Baby Jesus]

"while street tricking"



Street. Tricking.

For as long as they’ve been around you’d think they’d have a little more self respect.

[camel filters]

Are you tt riders using old trucks that have been on regular popsicles? Its the thing that keeps me from trying. I feel like I need a dedicated tt set of trucks so my mind won't go crazy.

[BartHarleyJarvis]

Are you tt riders using old trucks that have been on regular popsicles? Its the thing that keeps me from trying. I feel like I need a dedicated tt set of trucks so my mind won't go crazy.

I re-purposed a set of trucks but I did new bushings with a thorough break in period skating both ways. At a minimum you should do this unless you really want a new set of trucks

[Xen]

Either go new bushing and cups and or just setup a twin from scratch and leave it as is.

You can use existing shit too, just get them nut flush and adjust the trucks evenly until they feel right.

[goodatmeth]

Are you tt riders using old trucks that have been on regular popsicles? Its the thing that keeps me from trying. I feel like I need a dedicated tt set of trucks so my mind won't go crazy.

It doesn't matter at all. Put the trucks on a twin, about the same tightness, do all kinds of tricks and try to find out which truck used to be the back truck. It won't be obvious unless you have crazy deep grooves. Or just switch the hangers/bushings around on your regular setup to try.
I don't get it at all, you don't even need new bushings or anything like that unless you've never used your board switch/fakie before. It's just slap thinking and going mad about stuff without even trying it in the first place.

[jimgrude]

Are you tt riders using old trucks that have been on regular popsicles? Its the thing that keeps me from trying. I feel like I need a dedicated tt set of trucks so my mind won't go crazy.

I got a new set of trucks when first trying TT, and kept the old setup for comparison. I liked it, so kept buying TT decks. However, at some point I wanted to get a regular deck again, but I had gotten too attached to the trucks and bushing setup, so I kept getting TT just because I didn't wanna mess up the symmetry of the trucks. Then I snapped a deck while on a trip, so I had no choice but to go directional. Now I feel fine about it and wouldn't hesitate to set up a twin again, even if the grooves are a bit different now. It'll even out no problem.

[frank1175]

I only skate Twin Tails (mainly the DLX 8.3” Slicks) and decided to give the Santa Cruz Mc Coy 8.25” VX Twin Tail a go. The board feels super snappy/crispy because of the VX technology which I liked but I noticed something was a bit off. I measured both “kicks” and there was a 2-3mm difference in length 😬 One looks steeper than the other as well. Kinda dissapointed in this. I have another one still shrink wrapped that measures the same. Come on, how hard can it be to get the measurements right? It’s definitely not symmetrical. I guess I will stick with the Real/Krooked ones but want to try the Quasi’s and will also get the new Andy Anderson 🤪

[Xen]

I only skate Twin Tails (mainly the DLX 8.3” Slicks) and decided to give the Santa Cruz Mc Coy 8.25” VX Twin Tail a go. The board feels super snappy/crispy because of the VX technology which I liked but I noticed something was a bit off. I measured both “kicks” and there was a 2-3mm difference in length 😬 One looks steeper than the other as well. Kinda dissapointed in this. I have another one still shrink wrapped that measures the same. Come on, how hard can it be to get the measurements right? It’s definitely not symmetrical. I guess I will stick with the Real/Krooked ones but want to try the Quasi’s and will also get the new Andy Anderson 🤪

From personal experience, none of the SC twin tails are (tho I think the Flamingo might have been), easy to spot the nose and tail; in most videos it's a 'symmetrical kick' meaning the degree of kick is supposedly the same....only the Creature Gardner was the true twin out of that house.

[Xen]

https://www.chemsfb.com/product/cat-guts-symmetrical-skateboard



SYMMETRICAL CUSTOM DUAL NOSE SHAPE

DIMENSIONS:
8.25”W x 32”L x 14”WB
8.5”W x 32”L x 14”WB
8.75”W x 32”L x 14”WB
9.0”W x 32”L x 14”WB

6.75” Nose & Tail

-100% Made in USA

[munchbox]

https://www.chemsfb.com/product/cat-guts-symmetrical-skateboard



SYMMETRICAL CUSTOM DUAL NOSE SHAPE

DIMENSIONS:
8.25”W x 32”L x 14”WB
8.5”W x 32”L x 14”WB
8.75”W x 32”L x 14”WB
9.0”W x 32”L x 14”WB

6.75” Nose & Tail

-100% Made in USA

any info on the wood
made in usa has me hoping for pennswood

[BartHarleyJarvis]

https://www.chemsfb.com/product/cat-guts-symmetrical-skateboard



SYMMETRICAL CUSTOM DUAL NOSE SHAPE

DIMENSIONS:
8.25”W x 32”L x 14”WB
8.5”W x 32”L x 14”WB
8.75”W x 32”L x 14”WB
9.0”W x 32”L x 14”WB

6.75” Nose & Tail

-100% Made in USA

This is a.....fingerboard company?

[Xen]

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https://www.chemsfb.com/product/cat-guts-symmetrical-skateboard



SYMMETRICAL CUSTOM DUAL NOSE SHAPE

DIMENSIONS:
8.25”W x 32”L x 14”WB
8.5”W x 32”L x 14”WB
8.75”W x 32”L x 14”WB
9.0”W x 32”L x 14”WB

6.75” Nose & Tail

-100% Made in USA

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This is a.....fingerboard company?

That apparently makes regular decks as well.

[goodatmeth]

https://www.chemsfb.com/product/cat-guts-eggy-symmetrical-skateboard

This might be the coolest twin tail I've ever seen.
9", with skinny tails and wheel wells? Fuck I'd love that. Way too expensive as a european though.

[Lifer]

I’ve been skating the most recent Ishod twin tail as if it has a differently sized nose & tail all because I chipped one of the tail ends distinctively early on and it’s like tricked my mind into treating the chipped tail as strictly the “nose” end of the board’ Anyone else ever have a similar experience with twin tail boards?

[Woodshop]

Curious to know where his twin boards are made.  I did ask on instagram.

Some posts have BBS for some of his boards.

No mention of the woodshop for these, but in an older post he says Atlanta.  Anyone know which woodshop / woodshops operate there?

It was from this post.

[Hubba Bo-Tep]

only the Creature Gardner was the true twin out of that house.

Yo Xen, did you ever try the Gardner?  Thinking of getting this one as I'm down with that snappy epoxy construction.

The dims on that Chems symmetrical are looking good too.  Choices choices!

[GBLange]

Curious to know where his twin boards are made.  I did ask on instagram.

Some posts have BBS for some of his boards.

No mention of the woodshop for these, but in an older post he says Atlanta.  Anyone know which woodshop / woodshops operate there?

It was from this post.

Drifter Skateboards MFG maybe..they're in Atlanta..



seems they hv some 8ply uncut symmetricals too..