The Set-up Thread

[munchbox]

after a meh time with the 1992, i decided to pass on the 1991. figured it was time to try the last huge polar shape that caught my interest.....




polar dane 1 9.75/31.375/14.125wb
venture 6.1 w/flat washers+ace bottoms+bones tops
f4 radial slim 52mm->49mm 99a
bones reds
indy 1" allen until more bronze hits the local
mob grip with shop stickers in the stripe
adidas tyshawns

shortest deck ive ever owned but i took my adderall today, popped some ollies, and feel confident i can skate it! fat and long (32"ish) doesnt feel as good as fat and short imo. wheelbase is a bit shorter than my preferred 14.25, but the gold shop stickers going down the surf stripe show me my landing area to avoid breaks.

giving venture 6.1s a fair chance with the conclusion that i prefer heavier trucks (venture only atm). running them with the same bushing setup i have in my 5.6s and they feel like home, but surfier/more fun.

the spitfires will have to do until the og classics come out in 52mm/101a. spent $100 today and had to chill on the 99a, but this is a good enough excuse for me. i liked the boardycakes benchwarmers at about 1.5mm smaller but missed the f4 slide and response. gonna keep these around till they hit bearing condom status. cant barrel over the crust as well as the BCs, but ill just go faster when needed.

bones reds has certain advantages over swiss 6. can ride them in the rain and not worry so much, dont hold speed as well for when im trying something out of my ability/unscouted hills, easy to replace. i keep the swiss in my main setup because i usually dont skate my second setup as much, but that might just change soon.

hardware and grip arent much to talk about but im phasing out all my phillips since i keep an allen key in my wallet. 2020 proved that i prefer mob with cupsoles, and thats all i skate. dearest apologies to rob jessup, make ultragrip more available and i might change my tune.

adidas tyshawns are the best skate shoes ive ever owned. not much else to say there. just some dots of shoe goo and they are tank-like. fp gamechangers are on their way to potentially make me skate one shoe only.

sorry for my adderall fueled "last setup of the year" rant, im just hyped on the second setup for the first time in a minute. my list of shoes/gear to try has been whittled down to 3 from over 50ish things ive eyed this year (generous lowball) trying different dims while finding things to keep constant like WB(+/-.125) and truck brand made it easy to sift through what will and wont work. cheers to whoever read this all

[DarkPools]

after a meh time with the 1992, i decided to pass on the 1991. figured it was time to try the last huge polar shape that caught my interest.....




polar dane 1 9.75/31.375/14.125wb
venture 6.1 w/flat washers+ace bottoms+bones tops
f4 radial slim 52mm->49mm 99a
bones reds
indy 1" allen until more bronze hits the local
mob grip with shop stickers in the stripe
adidas tyshawns

shortest deck ive ever owned but i took my adderall today, popped some ollies, and feel confident i can skate it! fat and long (32"ish) doesnt feel as good as fat and short imo. wheelbase is a bit shorter than my preferred 14.25, but the gold shop stickers going down the surf stripe show me my landing area to avoid breaks.

giving venture 6.1s a fair chance with the conclusion that i prefer heavier trucks (venture only atm). running them with the same bushing setup i have in my 5.6s and they feel like home, but surfier/more fun.

the spitfires will have to do until the og classics come out in 52mm/101a. spent $100 today and had to chill on the 99a, but this is a good enough excuse for me. i liked the boardycakes benchwarmers at about 1.5mm smaller but missed the f4 slide and response. gonna keep these around till they hit bearing condom status. cant barrel over the crust as well as the BCs, but ill just go faster when needed.

bones reds has certain advantages over swiss 6. can ride them in the rain and not worry so much, dont hold speed as well for when im trying something out of my ability/unscouted hills, easy to replace. i keep the swiss in my main setup because i usually dont skate my second setup as much, but that might just change soon.

hardware and grip arent much to talk about but im phasing out all my phillips since i keep an allen key in my wallet. 2020 proved that i prefer mob with cupsoles, and thats all i skate. dearest apologies to rob jessup, make ultragrip more available and i might change my tune.

adidas tyshawns are the best skate shoes ive ever owned. not much else to say there. just some dots of shoe goo and they are tank-like. fp gamechangers are on their way to potentially make me skate one shoe only.

sorry for my adderall fueled "last setup of the year" rant, im just hyped on the second setup for the first time in a minute. my list of shoes/gear to try has been whittled down to 3 from over 50ish things ive eyed this year (generous lowball) trying different dims while finding things to keep constant like WB(+/-.125) and truck brand made it easy to sift through what will and wont work. cheers to whoever read this all

No! Go of, Off!   
The setup looks real fun!  Glad you're finding solace in set up experimentation and going out on a banger (even if it is a secondary and not your primary ride) for closing out 2020! Which reminds me, the Heroin I set up a couple weeks ago will almost certainly be my last board of 2020. Didn't think about it until I read your post! Glad I picked a good one, incidentally.
Everyone makes the Tyshawns look so good (including you!) I have a pair and I'm keen to break them in and see how well they do. Mine are leather, which is cool, but not as easy to work in as suede, so I'm timid about em. Lol

[Big Baby Jesus]

after a meh time with the 1992, i decided to pass on the 1991. figured it was time to try the last huge polar shape that caught my interest.....




polar dane 1 9.75/31.375/14.125wb
venture 6.1 w/flat washers+ace bottoms+bones tops
f4 radial slim 52mm->49mm 99a
bones reds
indy 1" allen until more bronze hits the local
mob grip with shop stickers in the stripe
adidas tyshawns

shortest deck ive ever owned but i took my adderall today, popped some ollies, and feel confident i can skate it! fat and long (32"ish) doesnt feel as good as fat and short imo. wheelbase is a bit shorter than my preferred 14.25, but the gold shop stickers going down the surf stripe show me my landing area to avoid breaks.

giving venture 6.1s a fair chance with the conclusion that i prefer heavier trucks (venture only atm). running them with the same bushing setup i have in my 5.6s and they feel like home, but surfier/more fun.

the spitfires will have to do until the og classics come out in 52mm/101a. spent $100 today and had to chill on the 99a, but this is a good enough excuse for me. i liked the boardycakes benchwarmers at about 1.5mm smaller but missed the f4 slide and response. gonna keep these around till they hit bearing condom status. cant barrel over the crust as well as the BCs, but ill just go faster when needed.

bones reds has certain advantages over swiss 6. can ride them in the rain and not worry so much, dont hold speed as well for when im trying something out of my ability/unscouted hills, easy to replace. i keep the swiss in my main setup because i usually dont skate my second setup as much, but that might just change soon.

hardware and grip arent much to talk about but im phasing out all my phillips since i keep an allen key in my wallet. 2020 proved that i prefer mob with cupsoles, and thats all i skate. dearest apologies to rob jessup, make ultragrip more available and i might change my tune.

adidas tyshawns are the best skate shoes ive ever owned. not much else to say there. just some dots of shoe goo and they are tank-like. fp gamechangers are on their way to potentially make me skate one shoe only.

sorry for my adderall fueled "last setup of the year" rant, im just hyped on the second setup for the first time in a minute. my list of shoes/gear to try has been whittled down to 3 from over 50ish things ive eyed this year (generous lowball) trying different dims while finding things to keep constant like WB(+/-.125) and truck brand made it easy to sift through what will and wont work. cheers to whoever read this all

This shape looks great. Probably going to add this to the list. About to add a p9 and a Dane 1 to my stack of polar footballs and p2s.

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Dane1 looks so comforting to me: had a Bryce Kanights board that had a similar shape. I gotta stop looking at this: I don’t skate well on bigger boards. But damn that thing like a rad time.

[Sightunseen]

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after a meh time with the 1992, i decided to pass on the 1991. figured it was time to try the last huge polar shape that caught my interest.....




polar dane 1 9.75/31.375/14.125wb
venture 6.1 w/flat washers+ace bottoms+bones tops
f4 radial slim 52mm->49mm 99a
bones reds
indy 1" allen until more bronze hits the local
mob grip with shop stickers in the stripe
adidas tyshawns

shortest deck ive ever owned but i took my adderall today, popped some ollies, and feel confident i can skate it! fat and long (32"ish) doesnt feel as good as fat and short imo. wheelbase is a bit shorter than my preferred 14.25, but the gold shop stickers going down the surf stripe show me my landing area to avoid breaks.

giving venture 6.1s a fair chance with the conclusion that i prefer heavier trucks (venture only atm). running them with the same bushing setup i have in my 5.6s and they feel like home, but surfier/more fun.

the spitfires will have to do until the og classics come out in 52mm/101a. spent $100 today and had to chill on the 99a, but this is a good enough excuse for me. i liked the boardycakes benchwarmers at about 1.5mm smaller but missed the f4 slide and response. gonna keep these around till they hit bearing condom status. cant barrel over the crust as well as the BCs, but ill just go faster when needed.

bones reds has certain advantages over swiss 6. can ride them in the rain and not worry so much, dont hold speed as well for when im trying something out of my ability/unscouted hills, easy to replace. i keep the swiss in my main setup because i usually dont skate my second setup as much, but that might just change soon.

hardware and grip arent much to talk about but im phasing out all my phillips since i keep an allen key in my wallet. 2020 proved that i prefer mob with cupsoles, and thats all i skate. dearest apologies to rob jessup, make ultragrip more available and i might change my tune.

adidas tyshawns are the best skate shoes ive ever owned. not much else to say there. just some dots of shoe goo and they are tank-like. fp gamechangers are on their way to potentially make me skate one shoe only.

sorry for my adderall fueled "last setup of the year" rant, im just hyped on the second setup for the first time in a minute. my list of shoes/gear to try has been whittled down to 3 from over 50ish things ive eyed this year (generous lowball) trying different dims while finding things to keep constant like WB(+/-.125) and truck brand made it easy to sift through what will and wont work. cheers to whoever read this all

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This shape looks great. Probably going to add this to the list. About to add a p9 and a Dane 1 to my stack of polar footballs and p2s.

Set up a P9 recently and couldn’t get used to it, if you’re interested PM and maybe we can swap for something?
8.62 Hjalte balloon boy

[munchbox]

Everyone makes the Tyshawns look so good (including you!) I have a pair and I'm keen to break them in and see how well they do. Mine are leather, which is cool, but not as easy to work in as suede, so I'm timid about em. Lol

tyshawns are one of the best looking skate shoes on the market imo, one of the few silos that holds proportions in the bigfoot sizes. my next pair might be leather just to compare the two. id suggest walking around in them a bit in thick socks before skating them to get the leather to flex. or if you are really crazy, toss em in the microwave.

This shape looks great. Probably going to add this to the list. About to add a p9 and a Dane 1 to my stack of polar footballs and p2s.

would definitely recommend. wb and length are shorter than what im used to but i can appreciate it. my body is all legs so when i jump straight up, my feet go where they need to be. kickflips and heels were super easy and surprisingly consistent with the short nose (might have to try skating my main setup backwards whenever i get back on it:o). genuinenly considering learning a ton of flip tricks on this like its the 90s and translating it to a popsicle. not changing my kit though lol

Dane1 looks so comforting to me: had a Bryce Kanights board that had a similar shape. I gotta stop looking at this: I don’t skate well on bigger boards. But damn that thing like a rad time.

feels a lot smaller than the width would suggest. just takes a little more effort to flick and get my legs out of the way, landing is as close to brainless as you can get.

im the opposite, i dont have the body control to skate sub 8.5 decks. feel like toothpicks under my size 13 feet and unrewarding for the amount of effort to get everything perfect. to each his own

[AngryBlackMan]

Was a Christmas Complete 3 sessions ago
5Boro 8.5 with 14.5wb (website said 14.25)
Indy 149 TI. Riptide pivot cups, Indy hard bushings, 3 washers inside
Spitfire F4 tablets 52mm 101A
Bronson raw
Mob

Janoski RM slipons. Still holding on after 6ish weeks.

[GumOnMyGrip]

Out with the old...
Same board,different companies.
TOPX 8.5 to Hopps 8.5
Ace 44, Spit FF 54, Bender hardware ALWAYS!,  bones reds

[clint]

Quasi Josh Wilson Acid Ply 8.5"
Mob/Jessup
1" allen Indy hardware
Indys 159
Bones hxc medium white
Bronson G3
Spitfire F4 radial 56mm 101

[AngryBlackMan]

Out with the old...
Same board,different companies.
TOPX 8.5 to Hopps 8.5
Ace 44, Spit FF 54, Bender hardware ALWAYS!,  bones reds

+1 for Bender!

[blueskynoise]

Quasi Josh Wilson Acid Ply 8.5"
Mob/Jessup
1" allen Indy hardware
Indys 159
Bones hxc medium white
Bronson G3
Spitfire F4 radial 56mm 101

Loved this board!

[jay_nev]

Quasi 8.75 acid ply
55 ACE
54mm Speedlab Slappy Hour wheels
Bronson raw bearings
Jessup grip
Santa Cruz rails
Servant shoes

top/bottom pic ? Curious about the quasi 8.75

[Sativa Lung]

DOA Madam 8.12 Flat as Fuck (e mold)
Indy 144 tits
Jessup Grip
Huh blues bearings
53mm 99a Bop Shop wheels

Feels good to be home. This one must have been near the top of the stack because it's one of the steeper flats I've had. I'll probably end up changing over to ventures because that's what always happens with flats...I try indys, hate it, and then switch.

[FrozenIndustries]

917 8.38 (was supposed to be 8.5 but measures 8.38 and I decided to keep it)
Venture 5.8 with Indy super soft bushings
F4 conical full 56 but probably like 54 at this point

Gnarred. I love this graphic. It reminds me of the AWS Neil Blender HiFi, and I wanted to get it even though I have way to big of a stack RN.

DOA Madam 8.12 Flat as Fuck (e mold)
Indy 144 tits
Jessup Grip
Huh blues bearings
53mm 99a Bop Shop wheels

Feels good to be home. This one must have been near the top of the stack because it's one of the steeper flats I've had. I'll probably end up changing over to ventures because that's what always happens with flats...I try indys, hate it, and then switch.

Love this graphic too. Ordered one (8.25") in standard concave from Library, but it has been in transit forever due to COVID mail delay. It'll be sweet when it arrives so long as it isn't fucked up from shipping.

[DarkPools]

@BFRD, I tend to hear that Indy’s are great on flat boards since the height of Indy + mellow concave & kicks gives it a good response time for the deck’s lack of “springy”ness without it feeling soggy. Do you notice that with your Indy’s on flat boards or no? Do you notice Venture doing that instead on your flats?

A good example is most of the Toy Machine team running Indy’s. Toy boards are notoriously flat, so that’s where I’m coming from.

[ballintoohard]

I’m not BFRD, but I love Indy on Quasi and some FA. Venture often feel the same to me, but I run forged hollow Indys. I don’t think it’s flatness, but the fingers of flat thing. I find my current 8.25 FA and Quasi have the same there, FA has a tiny bit more concave. In the past I hated decks with minimal fingers and Indy.

[Fifty8mm]

@BFRD, I tend to hear that Indy’s are great on flat boards since the height of Indy + mellow concave & kicks gives it a good response time for the deck’s lack of “springy”ness without it feeling soggy. Do you notice that with your Indy’s on flat boards or no? Do you notice Venture doing that instead on your flats?

A good example is most of the Toy Machine team running Indy’s. Toy boards are notoriously flat, so that’s where I’m coming from.

It depends on how you pop your board to be honest. If you pocket pop i think indys are better. If you use the tip of tail venture.

Indys give More room from axle to the tip of the nose or tail and  it gives it more leverage to flex.  Then again i weigh 235. My boards flex no matter what.

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Fingers of flat is something that I don’t understand, but like boards with more of it.


Also that doa graphic is great

[Dinglenuts]

DOA Madam 8.12 Flat as Fuck (e mold)
Indy 144 tits
Jessup Grip
Huh blues bearings
53mm 99a Bop Shop wheels

Feels good to be home. This one must have been near the top of the stack because it's one of the steeper flats I've had. I'll probably end up changing over to ventures because that's what always happens with flats...I try indys, hate it, and then switch.

Oh golly that's a nice one.

[backinaction]

@BFRD, I tend to hear that Indy’s are great on flat boards since the height of Indy + mellow concave & kicks gives it a good response time for the deck’s lack of “springy”ness without it feeling soggy.

Powell/Mini Logo are super flat and I really liked the hollow forged on them. 

[Falcorn]

Strangelove 8.5 w/MOB grip
Thunder Team Hollow 151
Bones Big Balls
Creature Bloodsucker 56

[Mbrimson88]

Fingers of flat is something that I don’t understand, but like boards with more of it.

Might seem like overkill, but this is the best one to show and explain it:

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Fingers of flat is something that I don’t understand, but like boards with more of it.

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Might seem like overkill, but this is the best one to show and explain it:

Thanks for the link. That was kind.
I should have been more clear: I’ve heard about the fingers of flat, from ‘the professor’. I’ve enjoyed boards that have more fingers of flat, but I don’t have any conclusions on why, or which trucks worked better or what. Schmitt comes off as a kindly well meaning sort. As soon as he touches on a theory he kind of bounds off, adding in different tidbits, sprinkling other ideas in. There are not these moments, imo, where he more clearly defines what he’s saying. I can see truths in there, but it just starts to be a lot of talk. Most likely it’s my shitty attention span and lack of comprehension.
I like ps boards the best, I think I like flatter shapes, more fingers of flat, shorter boards....I prefer venture and ace, but that is much more convoluted.
I’ve added nothing to the conversation here.

[Mbrimson88]

I should have been more clear: I’ve heard about the fingers of flat, from ‘the professor’. I’ve enjoyed boards that have more fingers of flat, but I don’t have any conclusions on why, or which trucks worked better or what. Schmitt comes off as a kindly well meaning sort. As soon as he touches on a theory he kind of bounds off, adding in different tidbits, sprinkling other ideas in. There are not these moments, imo, where he more clearly defines what he’s saying. I can see truths in there, but it just starts to be a lot of talk. Most likely it’s my shitty attention span and lack of comprehension.
I like ps boards the best, I think I like flatter shapes, more fingers of flat, shorter boards....I prefer venture and ace, but that is much more convoluted.
I’ve added nothing to the conversation here.

I talk too much and help too much!

It is funny though in terms of what feels good to ride, what works and what doesn't and can be almost too in depth with too much info, but I guess too it can be one of those things that you actively look for, just to get something that feels perfect or spend too much time obsessing over it and make it change your mind as to whether it is a good ride or not, for better or worse for some boards.

As much as theories go for what makes a board perfect, I guess it is subjective, as I used to ride a lot of (or only when I could) PS Stix boards but back around 2002 the tails started getting shorter and that bugged me so I tried DLX wood again (as the local distro had changed and I had access) and haven't looked back since.  I am definitely more a fan of the spoon kicks, rather than a flat bit to an abrupt kick, so there is not so much of a defined area of flat before the kicks start as per other brands of wood, but I have noticed if the deck bolt holes are too close to the kicks, the board will feel off.

In saying that, the length of the mold the board is pressed in will directly affect what the wheelbase should be and if it is not drilled correctly, then the board is going to feel off.  At least it is easier to drill it shorter, for all those who like less wheelbase in the decks, most commonly using the longer holes in the 6 hole baseplates to make a template, eg indy 159 and above.

[slutonparade]

Had a very Shalom time today

[Painted Baby]

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I should have been more clear: I’ve heard about the fingers of flat, from ‘the professor’. I’ve enjoyed boards that have more fingers of flat, but I don’t have any conclusions on why, or which trucks worked better or what. Schmitt comes off as a kindly well meaning sort. As soon as he touches on a theory he kind of bounds off, adding in different tidbits, sprinkling other ideas in. There are not these moments, imo, where he more clearly defines what he’s saying. I can see truths in there, but it just starts to be a lot of talk. Most likely it’s my shitty attention span and lack of comprehension.
I like ps boards the best, I think I like flatter shapes, more fingers of flat, shorter boards....I prefer venture and ace, but that is much more convoluted.
I’ve added nothing to the conversation here.

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I talk too much and help too much!

It is funny though in terms of what feels good to ride, what works and what doesn't and can be almost too in depth with too much info, but I guess too it can be one of those things that you actively look for, just to get something that feels perfect or spend too much time obsessing over it and make it change your mind as to whether it is a good ride or not, for better or worse for some boards.

As much as theories go for what makes a board perfect, I guess it is subjective, as I used to ride a lot of (or only when I could) PS Stix boards but back around 2002 the tails started getting shorter and that bugged me so I tried DLX wood again (as the local distro had changed and I had access) and haven't looked back since.  I am definitely more a fan of the spoon kicks, rather than a flat bit to an abrupt kick, so there is not so much of a defined area of flat before the kicks start as per other brands of wood, but I have noticed if the deck bolt holes are too close to the kicks, the board will feel off.

In saying that, the length of the mold the board is pressed in will directly affect what the wheelbase should be and if it is not drilled correctly, then the board is going to feel off.  At least it is easier to drill it shorter, for all those who like less wheelbase in the decks, most commonly using the longer holes in the 6 hole baseplates to make a template, eg indy 159 and above.

I'm not sure if I understand how you are saying to do it but there's a full inch between the two holes on a 6 hole baseplate right? Wouldn't that usually be more than you'd wanna drill?

[Mbrimson88]

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In saying that, the length of the mold the board is pressed in will directly affect what the wheelbase should be and if it is not drilled correctly, then the board is going to feel off.  At least it is easier to drill it shorter, for all those who like less wheelbase in the decks, most commonly using the longer holes in the 6 hole baseplates to make a template, eg indy 159 and above.

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I'm not sure if I understand how you are saying to do it but there's a full inch between the two holes on a 6 hole baseplate right? Wouldn't that usually be more than you'd wanna drill?

It is probably easiest from the pic, specifically the Jenkem mag pic which has the highlights, green holes being the new school, red being the old school hole pattern, so the difference is only about 1/4 of an inch if I recall correctly.



So put the (two) deck bolts through the board at the end closest to the tail and mount the truck in the old school pattern (red) and do them up and stand on the board to feel the difference between how it was before (through the green) and now.

If you like it, then keep the baseplate done up on the red and either just drill two holes through the board for the inside deck bolts (the holes not highlighted at all in the Jenkem pic) or drill the green ones as well.

Sorry sometimes it is harder to explain and easier to do a video or use pictures, but I hadn't taken pics or video when I did this on a board not too long ago.  It worked perfectly by the way too.

*** Note this is based on someone having a set of trucks, any trucks really, that have a six hole pattern, but I know Indy 159 and above all have six holes in cast Stage 11 (not including the forged baseplate that is), then all stages 8 and older have them too.

[Falcorn]

Polar 8.625
Ace 55
F4 Conical full 56mm
Reds

Sorry to dredge up an old post but I'm on the fence about buying new Ace 55s for a Polar 8.625 I just picked up from the winter drop. I had one a few months ago that I liked with Ventures but found I preferred skating it off the nose. Curious how you liked this setup or if anyone else has experience with a similar one. I ride 56 conical fulls too. How's the wheel bite without risers?

[newspaperparty]

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Polar 8.625
Ace 55
F4 Conical full 56mm
Reds

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Sorry to dredge up an old post but I'm on the fence about buying new Ace 55s for a Polar 8.625 I just picked up from the winter drop. I had one a few months ago that I liked with Ventures but found I preferred skating it off the nose. Curious how you liked this setup or if anyone else has experience with a similar one. I ride 56 conical fulls too. How's the wheel bite without risers?

No worries, glad you liked my old setup haha. I think you'd absolutely love it, but it depends what you are in to. Honestly this was probably the best feeling setup I have ever had. Ace 55s are the best trucks ive ever had (though im skating ventures now at the moment... wanted to switch it up) and the Polar 8.625 is the best shape ever. I definitely got wheel bite but I'm used to wheel bite ive always gotten a lot of wheel bite so it doesnt phase me much

[Colt Cannon's Cargos]

Got my AWS sample deck today.

AWS 8.38
Thunder Lights 148 w/ Bones Hard Bushings
Spitfire 52 Conicals
Bones Swiss
AWS Grip