Truck set ups, less popular brands edition

[moonordie]

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I have knowledge regarding Brazilian product. Rip offs and shitty quality, and then is good quality shit is ultra expensive so it doesn't make any sense.

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Huh, is 90 Brazilian dollars Real (around 20 bucks after conversion) considered cheap or expensive relative to that part of the world? That's how much those crails seem to go for

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Sorry I didn't know what the currency was called, so is that cheap or expensive in Brazil?

I have no idea since I'm not from Brazil but I know that they have crazy taxes for American products. I believe they have to pay 3x more so that's why they have a massive industry but so far low quality at least in the stuff I tried

[whatsreallygood]

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I have knowledge regarding Brazilian product. Rip offs and shitty quality, and then is good quality shit is ultra expensive so it doesn't make any sense.

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Huh, is 90 Brazilian dollars Real (around 20 bucks after conversion) considered cheap or expensive relative to that part of the world? That's how much those crails seem to go for

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Sorry I didn't know what the currency was called, so is that cheap or expensive in Brazil?

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I have no idea since I'm not from Brazil but I know that they have crazy taxes for American products. I believe they have to pay 3x more so that's why they have a massive industry but so far low quality at least in the stuff I tried

Ah ok thanks for clarifying man. Yeah from what I'm aware taxation there is crazy for stuff. I don't know nearly enough about industry in Brazil but I could see it being lower quality as a result of not being around for as long. A part of me wants to somehow get them if they're just 20 bucks on my end, but with shipping it wouldn't be worth it.

[Ol Nick]

Anyone come across a Mini Logo truck with a pre-lubed pivot cup? I got a set of 8.75” on sale recently and popped off one hanger cause it looked like I was melting the pivot cup or something. Turned out to be some sort of grease; the other was dry but had some metal shavings from the hanger I guess. Is this maybe from the casting process?

[satan]

Anyone come across a Mini Logo truck with a pre-lubed pivot cup? I got a set of 8.75” on sale recently and popped off one hanger cause it looked like I was melting the pivot cup or something. Turned out to be some sort of grease; the other was dry but had some metal shavings from the hanger I guess. Is this maybe from the casting process?

Nah, not from casting. I think you're right on your first guess and it's grease.
Weird that it's just one truck though. Different batches or poor QC?
Tough to see in the pic. Is it light grey? Off white? Clear?
Lithium and calcium greases are usually white. Any petroleum smell?
Silicone is usually clear or opaque. Idk how to describe the smell. Smells like a "chemical" to me.

[Sativa Lung]

They claim to be the only "made in Europe" truck (but aren't polster and film European made?). The only thing I could find on these was a french guy saying they stick when they turn:



I feel like if they were good, we'd here about them like with film, but I'm just curious if anyone knows anything about them.

Film aren't made in Europe as far as I know, they're just owned by a French dude. The majority of all trucks you see on the market are made in China, probably by only a few places just like wood shops. I know Theeve and Destructo (other than the new 6.0) are made by the same place, and just based on similarities I have a suspicion that Film and Tensor might be related as well. I got bored one day and started poking around and looking into getting trucks made and from what I gathered the process is basically you come up with your design in 3d modeling software and take it to them and they do their best to make it, or they can kind of work off one of their existing designs and change it a little based on your input. There's standard options like hollow axles/kingpins or different alloys that can bring the price per piece up or down. Then once you have your design down you move to production and choose finishes, paint, colored nuts etc.

So yeah, basically people who harp on chinese trucks are mostly stupid and don't realize that almost everything on the market is from there and millions of people seem to be riding them without them spontaneously exploding under their feet somehow. I think Venture/Thunder still use Ermico and that new Destructo model is apparently USA but if they aren't explicitly marketing it as being made somewhere it's a pretty safe bet to assume it's chinese.

[Ol Nick]

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Anyone come across a Mini Logo truck with a pre-lubed pivot cup? I got a set of 8.75” on sale recently and popped off one hanger cause it looked like I was melting the pivot cup or something. Turned out to be some sort of grease; the other was dry but had some metal shavings from the hanger I guess. Is this maybe from the casting process?

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Nah, not from casting. I think you're right on your first guess and it's grease.
Weird that it's just one truck though. Different batches or poor QC?
Tough to see in the pic. Is it light grey? Off white? Clear?
Lithium and calcium greases are usually white. Any petroleum smell?
Silicone is usually clear or opaque. Idk how to describe the smell. Smells like a "chemical" to me.

It was opaque, kinda white/off-white. Didn’t smell much like anything. I cleaned it off and the trucks are great, not that it was having any adverse effect before, I was just worried they were turning to mush in the baseplate.

[drewsmahgoos]

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I have knowledge regarding Brazilian product. Rip offs and shitty quality, and then is good quality shit is ultra expensive so it doesn't make any sense.

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Huh, is 90 Brazilian dollars Real (around 20 bucks after conversion) considered cheap or expensive relative to that part of the world? That's how much those crails seem to go for

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Sorry I didn't know what the currency was called, so is that cheap or expensive in Brazil?

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I have no idea since I'm not from Brazil but I know that they have crazy taxes for American products. I believe they have to pay 3x more so that's why they have a massive industry but so far low quality at least in the stuff I tried

This is very true. Because of the heavy taxation and weird importation laws in Brazil, a lot of shit gets manufactured in the country. There is even a programming language (lua) that was made in Brazil, a lot of the reason for it being trade law issues.

My cousin married into a Brazilian family. His wife said that even toyotas are crazy expensive down there and that it's actually considered at the minimum, a solidly upper middle class car. I was also told that it's real big there to wear what we would consider cheaper preppy clothes. Shit like aeropostale and whatnot are considered fairly high end.

[legion]

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I have knowledge regarding Brazilian product. Rip offs and shitty quality, and then is good quality shit is ultra expensive so it doesn't make any sense.

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Huh, is 90 Brazilian dollars Real (around 20 bucks after conversion) considered cheap or expensive relative to that part of the world? That's how much those crails seem to go for

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Sorry I didn't know what the currency was called, so is that cheap or expensive in Brazil?

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I have no idea since I'm not from Brazil but I know that they have crazy taxes for American products. I believe they have to pay 3x more so that's why they have a massive industry but so far low quality at least in the stuff I tried

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This is very true. Because of the heavy taxation and weird importation laws in Brazil, a lot of shit gets manufactured in the country. There is even a programming language (lua) that was made in Brazil, a lot of the reason for it being trade law issues.

My cousin married into a Brazilian family. His wife said that even toyotas are crazy expensive down there and that it's actually considered at the minimum, a solidly upper middle class car. I was also told that it's real big there to wear what we would consider cheaper preppy clothes. Shit like aeropostale and whatnot are considered fairly high end.

Argentina is the same way? I trip out on their domestic market cars too. Troller is cool, I think that's owned by Ford Brazil now. There's also been some really unique VW's. Ah, the boys in Brazil..

What's up with import duties on goods from China vs US/MX? Lower for Chinese made stuff? Might explain Indy's move to China and NHS's big push down there.

[moonordie]

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I have knowledge regarding Brazilian product. Rip offs and shitty quality, and then is good quality shit is ultra expensive so it doesn't make any sense.

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Huh, is 90 Brazilian dollars Real (around 20 bucks after conversion) considered cheap or expensive relative to that part of the world? That's how much those crails seem to go for

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Sorry I didn't know what the currency was called, so is that cheap or expensive in Brazil?

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I have no idea since I'm not from Brazil but I know that they have crazy taxes for American products. I believe they have to pay 3x more so that's why they have a massive industry but so far low quality at least in the stuff I tried

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This is very true. Because of the heavy taxation and weird importation laws in Brazil, a lot of shit gets manufactured in the country. There is even a programming language (lua) that was made in Brazil, a lot of the reason for it being trade law issues.

My cousin married into a Brazilian family. His wife said that even toyotas are crazy expensive down there and that it's actually considered at the minimum, a solidly upper middle class car. I was also told that it's real big there to wear what we would consider cheaper preppy clothes. Shit like aeropostale and whatnot are considered fairly high end.

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Argentina is the same way? I trip out on their domestic market cars too. Troller is cool, I think that's owned by Ford Brazil now. There's also been some really unique VW's. Ah, the boys in Brazil..

What's up with import duties on goods from China vs US/MX? Lower for Chinese made stuff? Might explain Indy's move to China and NHS's big push down there.

American products are super expensive in Argentina too, not that bad like in Brazil but still super expensive.

[drewsmahgoos]

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I have knowledge regarding Brazilian product. Rip offs and shitty quality, and then is good quality shit is ultra expensive so it doesn't make any sense.

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Huh, is 90 Brazilian dollars Real (around 20 bucks after conversion) considered cheap or expensive relative to that part of the world? That's how much those crails seem to go for

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Sorry I didn't know what the currency was called, so is that cheap or expensive in Brazil?

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I have no idea since I'm not from Brazil but I know that they have crazy taxes for American products. I believe they have to pay 3x more so that's why they have a massive industry but so far low quality at least in the stuff I tried

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This is very true. Because of the heavy taxation and weird importation laws in Brazil, a lot of shit gets manufactured in the country. There is even a programming language (lua) that was made in Brazil, a lot of the reason for it being trade law issues.

My cousin married into a Brazilian family. His wife said that even toyotas are crazy expensive down there and that it's actually considered at the minimum, a solidly upper middle class car. I was also told that it's real big there to wear what we would consider cheaper preppy clothes. Shit like aeropostale and whatnot are considered fairly high end.

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Argentina is the same way? I trip out on their domestic market cars too. Troller is cool, I think that's owned by Ford Brazil now. There's also been some really unique VW's. Ah, the boys in Brazil..

What's up with import duties on goods from China vs US/MX? Lower for Chinese made stuff? Might explain Indy's move to China and NHS's big push down there.

I believe it is cheaper to import into Brazil from China although it must not be that cheap since if it was, they wouldn't be making so many trucks in their actual country.

[Roger__Kook]

Any European pals know about "Iron trucks"?

They're under the same distro as jart apparently:
https://store.hlcdist.com/shop-by-brand/iron-trucks

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Iron-Silver-Skateboard-Truck-Single/dp/B07W8ST1T2/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=iron+skateboard+trucks&qid=1583350452&sr=8-6

They look... fine? They seem like the trucks used on jart completes



They claim to be the only "made in Europe" truck (but aren't polster and film European made?). The only thing I could find on these was a french guy saying they stick when they turn:



I feel like if they were good, we'd here about them like with film, but I'm just curious if anyone knows anything about them.

I picked up a pair for super cheap (I think about £15-20). They were not great. Look like a weird Indy/Venture cross. Not particularly light, turn a bit like a Venture. Terrible standard bushings, really soft, almost like Play-Doh. I swapped them out for some Indy reds which helped but they still didn't turn very well. Oh and not great quality control, the kingpins were noticibly off-centre in the baseplates.
You get what you pay for I guess.

[rocklobster]

Finally broke out my Tensor Maglight ATG 5.5 for a Real board I was riding. Rides and pops very similar to a Thunder Titanium, slides much better thanks to that great baseplate. The grind was much softer, I personally prefer a harder metal grind like Venture where you can really feel the trucks biting into the ledge. The pinch was tough to get into, attribute that to brand new hangers with zero grind marks. I think they extend WB roughly the same as Thunder Cast baseplates. Only grip was getting them loose enough, I had them rattling loose so I could get into grinds better, they definitely felt like they were on the verge of coming apart, could tighten the kingpin nut by hand.

Overall a great alternative to Thunder Titaniums.

[Xen]

Finally broke out my Tensor Maglight ATG 5.5 for a Real board I was riding. Rides and pops very similar to a Thunder Titanium, slides much better thanks to that great baseplate. The grind was much softer, I personally prefer a harder metal grind like Venture where you can really feel the trucks biting into the ledge. The pinch was tough to get into, attribute that to brand new hangers with zero grind marks. I think they extend WB roughly the same as Thunder Cast baseplates. Only grip was getting them loose enough, I had them rattling loose so I could get into grinds better, they definitely felt like they were on the verge of coming apart, could tighten the kingpin nut by hand.

Overall a great alternative to Thunder Titaniums.

Bones Softs get them singing (without washers). Maybe the aluminum ones would be more to your liking? I really enjoy them, just wish they were lower.

[rocklobster]

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Finally broke out my Tensor Maglight ATG 5.5 for a Real board I was riding. Rides and pops very similar to a Thunder Titanium, slides much better thanks to that great baseplate. The grind was much softer, I personally prefer a harder metal grind like Venture where you can really feel the trucks biting into the ledge. The pinch was tough to get into, attribute that to brand new hangers with zero grind marks. I think they extend WB roughly the same as Thunder Cast baseplates. Only grip was getting them loose enough, I had them rattling loose so I could get into grinds better, they definitely felt like they were on the verge of coming apart, could tighten the kingpin nut by hand.

Overall a great alternative to Thunder Titaniums.

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Bone Softs get them singing (without washers). Maybe the aluminum ones would be more to your liking? I really enjoy them, just wish they were lower.

Never fucked around with bushing before but I may give them a go. I like riding a loose truck, like right on the verge of coming apart, to get that pinch on grinds. You're suggesting riding the bushings without a top washer? I'm not sure I'm ready for that huge step up in life!?

Height could definitely be lower, Venture Lo are the best truck I've experimented with recently, that couple of mm lower really help locking into Smiths and crooked grinds.

Edit: lack of pinch was also due to messing around with wheels. Tried Spitfire classics but the round edge was not helping, going back to a Bones V1 definitely helped a fair bit too.

[Xen]

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Finally broke out my Tensor Maglight ATG 5.5 for a Real board I was riding. Rides and pops very similar to a Thunder Titanium, slides much better thanks to that great baseplate. The grind was much softer, I personally prefer a harder metal grind like Venture where you can really feel the trucks biting into the ledge. The pinch was tough to get into, attribute that to brand new hangers with zero grind marks. I think they extend WB roughly the same as Thunder Cast baseplates. Only grip was getting them loose enough, I had them rattling loose so I could get into grinds better, they definitely felt like they were on the verge of coming apart, could tighten the kingpin nut by hand.

Overall a great alternative to Thunder Titaniums.

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Bone Softs get them singing (without washers). Maybe the aluminum ones would be more to your liking? I really enjoy them, just wish they were lower.

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Never fucked around with bushing before but I may give them a go. I like riding a loose truck, like right on the verge of coming apart, to get that pinch on grinds. You're suggesting riding the bushings without a top washer? I'm not sure I'm ready for that huge step up in life!?

Height could definitely be lower, Venture Lo are the best truck I've experimented with recently, that couple of mm lower really help locking into Smiths and crooked grinds.

Edit: lack of pinch was also due to messing around with wheels. Tried Spitfire classics but the round edge was not helping, going back to a Bones V1 definitely helped a fair bit too.

You could certainly use a top washer if you are worried, no need for a bottom, Bones are the same height as tensor bottoms with washer.

If you ride falling apart loose Bones Softs will give you what you need, they 81a and that's the softest I'd go dipping into the 7Xa category is floopier than I want to deal with.

I'm riding V1s (99a easys) on my 8.25 (tensors) and V3s on my 8.125 (8" Tensors) - both mags with bones softs. I normally ride 52mm but with the tensors I bumped one up to 54mm.  I prefer the pinch on the V3s, way more truck room.

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Finally broke out my Tensor Maglight ATG 5.5 for a Real board I was riding. Rides and pops very similar to a Thunder Titanium, slides much better thanks to that great baseplate. The grind was much softer, I personally prefer a harder metal grind like Venture where you can really feel the trucks biting into the ledge. The pinch was tough to get into, attribute that to brand new hangers with zero grind marks. I think they extend WB roughly the same as Thunder Cast baseplates. Only grip was getting them loose enough, I had them rattling loose so I could get into grinds better, they definitely felt like they were on the verge of coming apart, could tighten the kingpin nut by hand.

Overall a great alternative to Thunder Titaniums.

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Bone Softs get them singing (without washers). Maybe the aluminum ones would be more to your liking? I really enjoy them, just wish they were lower.

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Never fucked around with bushing before but I may give them a go. I like riding a loose truck, like right on the verge of coming apart, to get that pinch on grinds. You're suggesting riding the bushings without a top washer? I'm not sure I'm ready for that huge step up in life!?

Height could definitely be lower, Venture Lo are the best truck I've experimented with recently, that couple of mm lower really help locking into Smiths and crooked grinds.

Edit: lack of pinch was also due to messing around with wheels. Tried Spitfire classics but the round edge was not helping, going back to a Bones V1 definitely helped a fair bit too.

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You could certainly use a top washer if you are worried, no need for a bottom, Bones are the same height as tensor bottoms with washer.

If you ride falling apart loose Bones Softs will give you what you need, they 81a and that's the softest I'd go dipping into the 7Xa category is floopier than I want to deal with.

I'm riding V1s (99a easys) on my 8.25 (tensors) and V3s on my 8.125 (8" Tensors) - both mags with bones softs. I normally ride 52mm but with the tensors I bumped one up to 54mm.  I prefer the pinch on the V3s, way more truck room.

I'll try out the soft Bones bushings a go, pick them up tomorrow when I go by the shop for a set of V2 Easy Streets. I'm liking a flatter surface on the sides, plus the width should help slightly with shitty asphalt.

[Xen]

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Finally broke out my Tensor Maglight ATG 5.5 for a Real board I was riding. Rides and pops very similar to a Thunder Titanium, slides much better thanks to that great baseplate. The grind was much softer, I personally prefer a harder metal grind like Venture where you can really feel the trucks biting into the ledge. The pinch was tough to get into, attribute that to brand new hangers with zero grind marks. I think they extend WB roughly the same as Thunder Cast baseplates. Only grip was getting them loose enough, I had them rattling loose so I could get into grinds better, they definitely felt like they were on the verge of coming apart, could tighten the kingpin nut by hand.

Overall a great alternative to Thunder Titaniums.

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Bone Softs get them singing (without washers). Maybe the aluminum ones would be more to your liking? I really enjoy them, just wish they were lower.

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Never fucked around with bushing before but I may give them a go. I like riding a loose truck, like right on the verge of coming apart, to get that pinch on grinds. You're suggesting riding the bushings without a top washer? I'm not sure I'm ready for that huge step up in life!?

Height could definitely be lower, Venture Lo are the best truck I've experimented with recently, that couple of mm lower really help locking into Smiths and crooked grinds.

Edit: lack of pinch was also due to messing around with wheels. Tried Spitfire classics but the round edge was not helping, going back to a Bones V1 definitely helped a fair bit too.

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You could certainly use a top washer if you are worried, no need for a bottom, Bones are the same height as tensor bottoms with washer.

If you ride falling apart loose Bones Softs will give you what you need, they 81a and that's the softest I'd go dipping into the 7Xa category is floopier than I want to deal with.

I'm riding V1s (99a easys) on my 8.25 (tensors) and V3s on my 8.125 (8" Tensors) - both mags with bones softs. I normally ride 52mm but with the tensors I bumped one up to 54mm.  I prefer the pinch on the V3s, way more truck room.

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I'll try out the soft Bones bushings a go, pick them up tomorrow when I go by the shop for a set of V2 Easy Streets. I'm liking a flatter surface on the sides, plus the width should help slightly with shitty asphalt.

For what it's worth, with Thunders, Theeve or Tensor, Bones soft is the only way I can deal/get loose enough. With ACE, Indy/ML or Venture, I can just use the ACE bushings (low top reg bottom) and get what I need.

I'm around 180lbs (not the suggested weight for Bones softs

[bbk]

Can someone who has films actually measure them? I think I've read that the 5.5 is both 8.125 and 8.35 on here

[moonordie]

Tensor Allows are shit right?

[Sundaynuggets]

Tensor Allows are shit right?

I actually like mine. Turn fine if you put some bones soft bushings in them, grind fine and haven’t run into the cracking problem that people complain online about, but even if they did crack they have a warrantee.

[Jollyoli]

I like the Tensor ATG Mags but the difference between the grind on the hanger versus hitting the kingpin is too much for my delicate sensibilities, since we are in lockdown it's a good time to switch out the Krux DL's from my thunders and try them in the Tensors, only issue being I like bones bushings in them, need to thunder top bones bottom. Ah, the madness returns….

[rocklobster]

I like the Tensor ATG Mags but the difference between the grind on the hanger versus hitting the kingpin is too much for my delicate sensibilities, since we are in lockdown it's a good time to switch out the Krux DL's from my thunders and try them in the Tensors, only issue being I like bones bushings in them, need to thunder top bones bottom. Ah, the madness returns….

I like them, a lighter version of Thunder Titanium with a nicer baseplate slides. My issue is that I've re-discovered my love for low trucks and Venture 5.2 Hollow Lights are scratching that itch for me. Tensors will stay on but I'm jumping back on Venture for my next board - the lowered height feels so good for locking into pinchy grinds.

[Jollyoli]

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I like the Tensor ATG Mags but the difference between the grind on the hanger versus hitting the kingpin is too much for my delicate sensibilities, since we are in lockdown it's a good time to switch out the Krux DL's from my thunders and try them in the Tensors, only issue being I like bones bushings in them, need to thunder top bones bottom. Ah, the madness returns….

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I like them, a lighter version of Thunder Titanium with a nicer baseplate slides. My issue is that I've re-discovered my love for low trucks and Venture 5.2 Hollow Lights are scratching that itch for me. Tensors will stay on but I'm jumping back on Venture for my next board - the lowered height feels so good for locking into pinchy grinds.

Switched from Thunder 149 Ti. Tensors turn a little slower, grind through crust better, a little bit taller and moves the tipping point but will be happy to stick with them till they die or something better comes along.
Only bummed at how much effort Thunder king pins were compared to just knocking the ones out the tensors.

[rocklobster]

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I like the Tensor ATG Mags but the difference between the grind on the hanger versus hitting the kingpin is too much for my delicate sensibilities, since we are in lockdown it's a good time to switch out the Krux DL's from my thunders and try them in the Tensors, only issue being I like bones bushings in them, need to thunder top bones bottom. Ah, the madness returns….

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I like them, a lighter version of Thunder Titanium with a nicer baseplate slides. My issue is that I've re-discovered my love for low trucks and Venture 5.2 Hollow Lights are scratching that itch for me. Tensors will stay on but I'm jumping back on Venture for my next board - the lowered height feels so good for locking into pinchy grinds.

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Switched from Thunder 149 Ti. Tensors turn a little slower, grind through crust better, a little bit taller and moves the tipping point but will be happy to stick with them till they die or something better comes along.
Only bummed at how much effort Thunder king pins were compared to just knocking the ones out the tensors.

Could just me be but I'm not a fan of the softness of the metal. I usually skate a ledge with a metal edge and it's really eating into the hanger on my crooked grinds spot. Feels like I'm sticking more on those tricks, like the hanger is just getting eaten up instead of the truck biting back, if that makes sense.

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I like the Tensor ATG Mags but the difference between the grind on the hanger versus hitting the kingpin is too much for my delicate sensibilities, since we are in lockdown it's a good time to switch out the Krux DL's from my thunders and try them in the Tensors, only issue being I like bones bushings in them, need to thunder top bones bottom. Ah, the madness returns….

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I like them, a lighter version of Thunder Titanium with a nicer baseplate slides. My issue is that I've re-discovered my love for low trucks and Venture 5.2 Hollow Lights are scratching that itch for me. Tensors will stay on but I'm jumping back on Venture for my next board - the lowered height feels so good for locking into pinchy grinds.

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Switched from Thunder 149 Ti. Tensors turn a little slower, grind through crust better, a little bit taller and moves the tipping point but will be happy to stick with them till they die or something better comes along.
Only bummed at how much effort Thunder king pins were compared to just knocking the ones out the tensors.

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Could just me be but I'm not a fan of the softness of the metal. I usually skate a ledge with a metal edge and it's really eating into the hanger on my crooked grinds spot. Feels like I'm sticking more on those tricks, like the hanger is just getting eaten up instead of the truck biting back, if that makes sense.

Makes total sense to me, got pitched on the metal ledge but eats up cement. Go figure?!?

[moonordie]

Checking the Tensor allows, I wanted new ATG badly but no way to find them in 8.5 here.
What are the differences? Allows also have that nice top bushing? (Interlock was called?)

[BMCsteve]

Checking the Tensor allows, I wanted new ATG badly but no way to find them in 8.5 here.
What are the differences? Allows also have that nice top bushing? (Interlock was called?)

Tensor alloys are garbage.  In between a real truck and a walmart truck

[moonordie]

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Checking the Tensor allows, I wanted new ATG badly but no way to find them in 8.5 here.
What are the differences? Allows also have that nice top bushing? (Interlock was called?)

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Tensor alloys are garbage.  In between a real truck and a walmart truck

That was my exact thought

[rocklobster]

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Checking the Tensor allows, I wanted new ATG badly but no way to find them in 8.5 here.
What are the differences? Allows also have that nice top bushing? (Interlock was called?)

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Tensor alloys are garbage.  In between a real truck and a walmart truck

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That was my exact thought

Maglight > Aluminium > Alloys

[whatsreallygood]

ATGs are great, in both their aluminum or mag light form. Everything else they make is garbage imo, at least compared to the major truck companies.

ALSO, I've gotten to mess around with my destructo D1s more. I still can't properly skate them cause of quarantine. When I can I'll make an actual write up. But if I were to sum them up, they're like a more "street focused" indy. The turn is a sightly less responsive than indys when both have broken in bushings and are tightened to the point the nut is flush with the kingpin. Despite being 56mm high they don't feel unstable doing simple manuals or flatground. Pinch feels like an indy, and kingpin clearance is massive. If you like how indys feel, and want more metal to grind before hitting the kingpin, while also getting a lighter truck, with a slightly less responsive turn, these are a great option. So far no major flaws. The worst thing I could say was breaking in the bushings sucked, but they grind great and the turn is good, again slightly less responsive than a modern indy, but they don't compromise in stability despite the height and kingpin clearance etc. They're as good as any major truck brand and have something unique to offer imo. If you're curious and this sounds like something you'd like they're worth trying.

I wanna try crail trucks next, purely out of curiosity, but I have no idea how I'd get them outside of brazil lol

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Any European pals know about "Iron trucks"?

They're under the same distro as jart apparently:
https://store.hlcdist.com/shop-by-brand/iron-trucks

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Iron-Silver-Skateboard-Truck-Single/dp/B07W8ST1T2/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=iron+skateboard+trucks&qid=1583350452&sr=8-6

They look... fine? They seem like the trucks used on jart completes



They claim to be the only "made in Europe" truck (but aren't polster and film European made?). The only thing I could find on these was a french guy saying they stick when they turn:



I feel like if they were good, we'd here about them like with film, but I'm just curious if anyone knows anything about them.

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I picked up a pair for super cheap (I think about £15-20). They were not great. Look like a weird Indy/Venture cross. Not particularly light, turn a bit like a Venture. Terrible standard bushings, really soft, almost like Play-Doh. I swapped them out for some Indy reds which helped but they still didn't turn very well. Oh and not great quality control, the kingpins were noticibly off-centre in the baseplates.
You get what you pay for I guess.

Thanks for the info man. While on quarantine I've gone down the rabbit hole of weird trucks brands, among other things.