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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3900 on: February 09, 2023, 10:41:52 AM »
Well I tried the 5.2 high v lights.. I must say that I have a prefence for the standards!

The trucks are really set back, wheelbase much larger than the raws, so a harder pop to control, especially for someone short like me .. yet I'm on a board with 14 wheelbase, but as I said pop is harder to control.. the board goes up much faster, I can't imagine that on a 14.25 or bigger..

No height difference, I measured both trucks next to each other.. and the weight difference is not significant..

I think lights and hollow are better on lows, but not highs! At least, that's my personal experience!

there is definitely a height difference between cast and forged. I found the pop feel between cast and forged to be pretty similar since the wheelbase with forged is slightly longer which makes the tail feel shorter. if your kicks are super mellow, than I suppose you would get a quicker pop on forged plates

I agree that the v lights are not significantly lighter than standards which is why when people Frankensteined their trucks before the v cast hollows came out, people tended to use Ti hangers or the v hollow hangers.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3901 on: February 09, 2023, 11:23:14 AM »
Has anyone rode the loose conversion bushings in their ventures yet that could share how they are? Do they make the turn any better than the standard purples? More surfy? Do you ride them with the flat top washer or the standard one? Any info on how they are would be appreciated...thanks!

I've been running the shorter top bushing for a few months and I did find them more surfy/twitchy while still stable. While I like them more than stock there's been a few times where I wish I could get a bit more turn out of them if that makes sense. I have them a turn looser than nut flush and was thinking of trying the supercush bushings in the bottom

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3902 on: February 09, 2023, 12:12:07 PM »
Back on Ventures (5.6 hollow) full time after many years on Indy and Ace. Should be good to run 54s with no risers right? I skate them stock and am assuming the washer will engage with the hanger before bite.

I’d guess yes (I keep it 53 and below, but I’m about to set up my 5.2 HI’s/forged baseplates with 54, classics).

Welcome back to cool looking trucks and better pop.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3903 on: February 09, 2023, 11:39:48 PM »
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Well I tried the 5.2 high v lights.. I must say that I have a prefence for the standards!

The trucks are really set back, wheelbase much larger than the raws, so a harder pop to control, especially for someone short like me .. yet I'm on a board with 14 wheelbase, but as I said pop is harder to control.. the board goes up much faster, I can't imagine that on a 14.25 or bigger..

No height difference, I measured both trucks next to each other.. and the weight difference is not significant..

I think lights and hollow are better on lows, but not highs! At least, that's my personal experience!
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there is definitely a height difference between cast and forged. I found the pop feel between cast and forged to be pretty similar since the wheelbase with forged is slightly longer which makes the tail feel shorter. if your kicks are super mellow, than I suppose you would get a quicker pop on forged plates

I agree that the v lights are not significantly lighter than standards which is why when people Frankensteined their trucks before the v cast hollows came out, people tended to use Ti hangers or the v hollow hangers.

Yes ! ;) and as I said, on V lights I have a lot of trouble with pop and timing! The board goes too high and some tricks I have to lift my legs very high ! Like I said, maybe because I'm small and I have small legs haha

And I don't know.. the feel of the ventures raws is so.. unique, I like to feel my board and a soft pop.. And I think to myself, maybe all these v lights/Hollows are finally just crap marketing .. 20 years ago nobody thought about the weight of trucks ..Well I skate 8.00, so I don't necessarily have the heaviest board..  ;D

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3904 on: February 09, 2023, 11:42:48 PM »
Do you feel any difference with smiths on lo‘s?
Only concern I have.
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3905 on: February 10, 2023, 02:24:15 AM »
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Back on Ventures (5.6 hollow) full time after many years on Indy and Ace. Should be good to run 54s with no risers right? I skate them stock and am assuming the washer will engage with the hanger before bite.
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I’d guess yes (I keep it 53 and below, but I’m about to set up my 5.2 HI’s/forged baseplates with 54, classics).

Welcome back to cool looking trucks and better pop.
cant recommend wheels any bigger than 56 with forged plates
the turn to wheelbite ratio gets a lot worse with bigger rims
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3906 on: February 10, 2023, 03:37:46 AM »
https://www.elementbrand.com/raw-skateboard-trucks-821301146279.html#cgid=skate_accessories_trucks&start=8&hitcount=8

the tiny element trucks are $15 which is pretty cheap considering that bushings are like $10 usually? if anyone likes very loose trucks then i definitely recommend trying those bushings on ventures. you can put the 4.75 trucks on a freestyle board on something but it's really worth it for the bushings alone, i never thought ventures could be this surfy

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3907 on: February 10, 2023, 06:49:49 AM »
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Back on Ventures (5.6 hollow) full time after many years on Indy and Ace. Should be good to run 54s with no risers right? I skate them stock and am assuming the washer will engage with the hanger before bite.
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I’d guess yes (I keep it 53 and below, but I’m about to set up my 5.2 HI’s/forged baseplates with 54, classics).

Welcome back to cool looking trucks and better pop.
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cant recommend wheels any bigger than 56 with forged plates
the turn to wheelbite ratio gets a lot worse with bigger rims

Thanks both. Right now I'm not trying to go over 54mm, been feeling a lower setup for sure.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3908 on: February 10, 2023, 11:14:57 AM »
54 should be fine……even if you wheelbite, it’s an angle where you don’t get pitched…..

If the turn isn’t to your liking, ditch the top washer, switch to conical, softer bushings, change out the pivot cups.. in all it’s not a bad turning radius.  It’s a comfortable truck once you get it to your liking…

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3909 on: February 10, 2023, 11:48:58 AM »
Had a quick lunch break session and no bite. Also swapped the bushings for some old green supercush, which somehow feel softer and more responsive than stock. Very into being able to rock wide 54s on a 52mm truck.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3910 on: February 10, 2023, 04:03:28 PM »
I setup a really flat 8.38/14.25/31.9 deck on some Venture 5.8s and 52mm wheels. Had been skating forged Indy 149s before, but I think Ventures suit my skating better.

The stability while still being able to ride loose is great for me. I just put a Bones flat washer on top, and even skating in 32-40° weather they turn totally fine even in a small park.

They yield a much better pop and pinch than Indy's for me. I think I'm going to stick with these 5.8s for a few decks.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3911 on: February 11, 2023, 09:38:12 PM »
hope v-cast 5.6 polished come out. I could frankenstein the 5.8 teds with some 5.6 v-hollow axles but then I’m buying 2 trucks.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3912 on: February 12, 2023, 04:51:10 AM »
 Are the v-hollows and v-lights the same height as standard venture hi (53.5)? Specifically the 5.6 and 5.8. tactics sizing says yes but on one of ben degros videos he was saying v hollows are a bit lower. Not sure which one is true or if that was just at that point in time he made that video. Thanks yall!

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3913 on: February 12, 2023, 05:22:39 AM »
Are the v-hollows and v-lights the same height as standard venture hi (53.5)? Specifically the 5.6 and 5.8. tactics sizing says yes but on one of ben degros videos he was saying v hollows are a bit lower. Not sure which one is true or if that was just at that point in time he made that video. Thanks yall!

First question = no.

The four styles are here (pic below from the Venture site) so anything with regular plates / standard are 53.5mm in height right through from 5.0 to 6.1, anything with forged plates are 52mm in height right through from 5.0 to 6.1 as well, unless you are talking about the smaller width lo versions.


Checking the pic again, the first "team editions" truck is the only one at normal 53.5mm height, the others in either V Light or V Hollow (or V ti) are lower at 52mm on the forged baseplates.

All hangers are normal height, or hi (unless they are marked as lo) with the only reason some are shown as hi, just to make sure they don't confuse the smaller sizes.

They only make lo in 5.0 and 5.2 which is where some confusion comes in.  The baseplates are the same, just the hanger is different.


* Sorry I sort of made a mess of that, but hopefully it all makes sense, basic height info below now too.



Venture (regular / hi hangers)

Team editions - 53.5mm
V-Light - 52mm
V-Hollow - 52mm
V-ti axle - 52mm



https://venturetrucks.net/


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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3914 on: February 12, 2023, 02:01:17 PM »
according to rocklobster sig

Venture Truck Height:

5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82mm
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3915 on: February 13, 2023, 10:03:31 AM »
Have to ask again!

Are smith grinds with lo ventures a problem on ledges?

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3916 on: February 13, 2023, 10:08:39 AM »
Have to ask again!

Are smith grinds with lo ventures a problem on ledges?
Nick Matthews would probably say no, pretty sure he skates 5.2 Low's

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3917 on: February 13, 2023, 10:44:13 AM »
I love skating 5.0 low on Hockey 8 the slight magic carpet makes flip tricks a dream

Really wanna try them on my baker mellow 8.125 but I'm afraid that's a step too far. The magic carpet would be ridiculous
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3918 on: February 13, 2023, 11:59:19 AM »
I love skating 5.0 low on Hockey 8 the slight magic carpet makes flip tricks a dream

Really wanna try them on my baker mellow 8.125 but I'm afraid that's a step too far. The magic carpet would be ridiculous

5.0L's on an 8.25 is ridiculous magic carpeting (but fun), yours is in the acceptable range imo

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3919 on: February 13, 2023, 12:34:06 PM »
5.0 lo’s on steeper and wider decks is a vibe for sure, it’s fun trying to get tech on a bigger deck from time to time. The los are just so stable and linear, they feel like wider trucks than the tiny little things that they are

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3920 on: February 14, 2023, 01:19:04 PM »
John Dilo and Chandler Burton have pro trucks in the new Venture Spring '23 drop. Hoping to see a 5.6 polished v-cast hollow in the future drops

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3921 on: February 14, 2023, 01:54:11 PM »
dilo (cast 5.6 & 5.8)


burton (hollow 5.2hi & 5.6)


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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3922 on: February 14, 2023, 02:11:19 PM »
dilo (cast 5.6 & 5.8)


burton (hollow 5.2hi & 5.6)


if anyone gets a pair of the burtons and wants silver baseplates
hit my dms

Those Chandler ones are hideous... I love them

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3923 on: February 14, 2023, 03:01:46 PM »
Chandler deserves it and a sick colourway!

VHollows 5.8 standing in front of me, *try me*.
Made me some 1/16 Risers finaly:)



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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3924 on: February 14, 2023, 11:29:45 PM »
What weight do you prefer?

I want to get some lo‘s, but no idea if I should get v lights or hollows. I want lighter trucks, but not sure how light.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3925 on: February 14, 2023, 11:36:58 PM »
Why Ventures when ou can get Indys?

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3926 on: February 14, 2023, 11:56:09 PM »
Why Ventures when ou can get Indys?


Why Indy’s when ou can get Ventures?

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3927 on: February 15, 2023, 01:07:11 AM »
Why Ventures when ou can get Indys?

Off to UWTB with you, this isn't the place for gear bigots.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3928 on: February 15, 2023, 02:11:25 AM »
Why Ventures when ou can get Indys?

Why anyone, anything, ever?

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #3929 on: February 15, 2023, 03:20:01 AM »
I'm thinking of buying myself a baker or deathwish, my favorite brands and it's been a very long time since I rode them with Ventures.. Does it work with these trucks ? Wheelbase is 14.25, and many say Venture only works with a 14 wheelbase..

Come to think of it, when I was skating Venture and Baker a long time ago, I wasn't thinking about all those wheelbase settings or whatever.. fucking madness !  :-\

(And we see Bryan O'dwyer or John dilo during a period skating venture with Deathwish perfectly.. maybe it's all in the head..)