Venture 2020

[Ok]

somehow i have avoided bushing madness, for the most part.
i’ve tried a few conical bushings in ventures, and the turn was different for certain. bones hards worked well. i think i’ve come around to the cylinders, and kinda tight (when i’m riding the lo’s).
when trucks are too loose, i lose pop. don’t like it.

[Murge]

somehow i have avoided bushing madness, for the most part.
i’ve tried a few conical bushings in ventures, and the turn was different for certain. bones hards worked well. i think i’ve come around to the cylinders, and kinda tight (when i’m riding the lo’s).
when trucks are too loose, i lose pop. don’t like it.

I feel you. I lose pop the looser I get. I’ve been skating a park a lot when I can now and it has really fun kinda mellow transition. And that’s why I’m trying get a bit more turn. But I want to be able to hit the transition with out like kinda tic tacing (I’m bad at transition) but not lose pop cause the ledge at the park is fun as hell

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somehow i have avoided bushing madness, for the most part.
i’ve tried a few conical bushings in ventures, and the turn was different for certain. bones hards worked well. i think i’ve come around to the cylinders, and kinda tight (when i’m riding the lo’s).
when trucks are too loose, i lose pop. don’t like it.

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I feel you. I lose pop the looser I get. I’ve been skating a park a lot when I can now and it has really fun kinda mellow transition. And that’s why I’m trying get a bit more turn. But I want to be able to hit the transition with out like kinda tic tacing (I’m bad at transition) but not lose pop cause the ledge at the park is fun as hell

i’m a big big fan of ventures, but they are not ace, or the ilk. meaning, they have a very obviously different turn (which i appreciate, on what i skate), that MAY be less good for some, especially in transition. i used to use the hard bones, no bottom washer, the lower conical bushing gave me a bit more swerve, maybe it brought the effective wb in a touch, idk. i did lose a bit of stability, and bones bushings can be expensive and not last very long. i recommend using the hard bushings, slightly looser, as the hard ones were significantly better for me in both longevity and in return.

[notinternetfamous]

I recently scored some venture lows from a fellow slap user. I mainly wanted them to secure some new cast plates, but am intrigued in trying them out one day. I did a majority of my early skating on Thunder 147s so I think I could get used to the lower height with no major complaints

question for venture low advocates
what boards do you typically ride them with? I was thinking of throwing them on a FA since I won't be setting it up with venture highs as I hated that combo

[richard00800]

I recently scored some venture lows from a fellow slap user. I mainly wanted them to secure some new cast plates, but am intrigued in trying them out one day. I did a majority of my early skating on Thunder 147s so I think I could get used to the lower height with no major complaints

question for venture low advocates
what boards do you typically ride them with? I was thinking of throwing them on a FA since I won't be setting it up with venture highs as I hated that combo

PJ ladd set up: (actually 7.9"), (currently skate this setup)
Plan B 8"/31.33" if you are a short person, nice crispy pop and flick, but it has small tail, you can find 31.75" one for more average board feel when skating switch.

Old Sewa set up:(8.125")
Blind last longer for it's epoxy glue, no concave on nose and tail (complete flat), nice and poppy, need a couple days to loosen up the deck (too hard in first few days)

Yuto setup:(8")
April deck, great in first few weeks, then gets soggy quickly, I usually skate 2.5 month for a deck, but April only last me 1.5~2 month. It's almost in between twin tail or twin nose shape, great for nollie/switch flips.

[LebowskisRug]

I think I’m happy with Indy 92a top and stock indy bottom. One ish thread showing. I do kinda hate the miss match color. But I’m kinda debating on indy conical blues. I’m going through bushing madness hard now that my stock ventures cracked

Honestly just do blue the whole way I'd wager the nut will still be flush or a tad bit past.

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I recently scored some venture lows from a fellow slap user. I mainly wanted them to secure some new cast plates, but am intrigued in trying them out one day. I did a majority of my early skating on Thunder 147s so I think I could get used to the lower height with no major complaints

question for venture low advocates
what boards do you typically ride them with? I was thinking of throwing them on a FA since I won't be setting it up with venture highs as I hated that combo

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PJ ladd set up: (actually 7.9"), (currently skate this setup)
Plan B 8"/31.33" if you are a short person, nice crispy pop and flick, but it has small tail, you can find 31.75" one for more average board feel when skating switch.

Old Sewa set up:(8.125")
Blind last longer for it's epoxy glue, no concave on nose and tail (complete flat), nice and poppy, need a couple days to loosen up the deck (too hard in first few days)

Yuto setup:(8")
April deck, great in first few weeks, then gets soggy quickly, I usually skate 2.5 month for a deck, but April only last me 1.5~2 month. It's almost in between twin tail or twin nose shape, great for nollie/switch flips.

dick coming in with the specific recommendations, i love it.


i don’t like fa boards, i just don’t like steep stuff. that being said, one of the things with venture lo’s, for me, is that they just work, on pretty much everything.
i really like the girl 7.75, and 7.875 shapes, they are short tho (which is why i like them, shorter tail and that)
ps stix anything 8 ish, 14.25 or less.
similar to 147s, 52 is the max wheel size for me on lo’s, worn down to 50 is best.
i skate the trucks tighter. you’ll be ok, promise.
if you need more turning, go into your side yard and use a hula hoop for awhile and get it out of your system. if that doesn’t work, try removing the bottom washer, using indy stock bushing, using bones bushings (i always went without the bottom washer), and then with any of the bushing combos, i used to run a flat top washer, opens the turning up a bit. now i don’t fuck with that tho.
i need to move my popping foot to the absolute tippy tip of the tail/nose. which works great for me cuz this is what i had to do to get a street cab with 157s and slimeballs off of the ground as a 5’ (if) tall, 80
pound child.

my only complaints with the lo’s are the wheel size, skating rougher ground. but then i need to remind myself that i’m just a little baby, bobby was on lo’s for moving in traffic, he made it work. i can do the same. i need to stop whining.

[munchbox]

re: ventures not with short wheelbase

i have been teaching a lady friend how to skate
was going to put her on ventures but the local was out of 6.1s
went with ace 60s and the dlx 8.75/32.5/14.625wb

i did a couple of flip tricks and goddamn
the added wheelbase and length didnt feel off at all
not to mention the +400g weight was hardly noticeable
pop feel was similar, just missing the needed venture stability
the effective wb is close to what i ride so maybe thats it?
you all know i notoriously like short wb, trust me im baffled

my current ride is 8.75/31.75/14wb
it has been feeling too short for a while but is it wb or length?

anyway, the longer board gave me more confidence
more space to set up comfortably
rotations even felt easier, the weight made em whip around
basically everything felt better outside of ace squirrellyness

so im picking up a polar 9.0/32.25/14.5wb deck to test stock
pairing it up with 6.1 hollows
at best, i backtrack on all the times i said it doesnt work
at worst, i can just redrill it to 14.125wb and keep the length

anyone here running 14.5wb and ventures these days?

[scab]

anyone here running 14.5wb and ventures these days?

Yup, 5.8 Hollows on the Ishod 8.5 twin (14.5 / 32.2) has been my go-to setup for almost a year now, most of the time frankentrucked with old cast baseplates. Lately I've had trouble getting that deck though, so I took that as an opportunity to give shorter wheelbases a shot. 14.25 is the lowest I can go without it feeling to far off, and then I'll use forged baseplates to  push the WB out a little more. I've simply come to appreciate the stability of a long effective wheelbase I guess.

[shawngreg]

i'm skating a 9" eagle that has a 15" wb on cast 6.1s.  it definitely feels like alot of board, but i'm tall with big feet and determined to make it work.  worth mentioning i'm skating mostly flat, and curbs & ledges

[FatGuy92]

i'm skating a 9" eagle that has a 15" wb on cast 6.1s.  it definitely feels like alot of board, but i'm tall with big feet and determined to make it work.  worth mentioning i'm skating mostly flat, and curbs & ledges

This old dude at my local skates the same setup and kills it in transition. If you can make that tank work then more power to you.

I’ve been on thunders for a hot minute but recently setup 5.8 titanium hangers on standard baseplates and so far it’s been super fun.

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re: ventures not with short wheelbase

i have been teaching a lady friend how to skate
was going to put her on ventures but the local was out of 6.1s
went with ace 60s and the dlx 8.75/32.5/14.625wb

i did a couple of flip tricks and goddamn
the added wheelbase and length didnt feel off at all
not to mention the +400g weight was hardly noticeable
pop feel was similar, just missing the needed venture stability
the effective wb is close to what i ride so maybe thats it?
you all know i notoriously like short wb, trust me im baffled

my current ride is 8.75/31.75/14wb
it has been feeling too short for a while but is it wb or length?

anyway, the longer board gave me more confidence
more space to set up comfortably
rotations even felt easier, the weight made em whip around
basically everything felt better outside of ace squirrellyness

so im picking up a polar 9.0/32.25/14.5wb deck to test stock
pairing it up with 6.1 hollows
at best, i backtrack on all the times i said it doesnt work
at worst, i can just redrill it to 14.125wb and keep the length

anyone here running 14.5wb and ventures these days?

awhile back i got annoyed with myself only skating 14” wb, or less, and started trying to go the other way. i used to have a really really odd board, that amongst many other quirks, had a 14.75 wb. i could treflip it pretty easily, which is a trip because sometimes i will go FORFUCJINFEVER without landing a one, or a good one, on setups that really only have that sole purpose.

so anyways, i started off with a griffin gass shape, just less than 14.5. board was amazing. wrong thread for all of this nonsense, for many reasons, most saliently: i was skating thunder 149s. loved that setup. instead of getting another one and calling it good, i then moved on to trying the next longest wb that was readily available to me in that moment, that chud brophy’s board, with a 14.75 wb. that board skated very well. nonsense.
the brophy was too big, but did a lot of what i wanted it to do, and when that stuff worked, it was extremely satisfying. i think it was  @Sedition that mentioned this in another thread, paraphrasing: bigger board is more satisfying/feels better, even at the expense of tricks.

because you are, if i remember, a pretty tall person, i’ve wondered if that dipshit brophy’s board would work well for you. the proportions are nice.

i think effective wb is a trap. there is some other magic that is a foot. i love my venture lo’s on the girl boards with the sub 14” wb, but if i had to guess, it’s really the tail on that shape, and the overall length of the board, that i enjoy.

once again i’ve written a lot, said little of note.
i don’t have some personal grudge against brophy. just seemed like he did drugs with carroll and got onto a team i used to love. i favor the idea of a diet reese, it’s just not….

sort of on track: i’d be surprised if a longer board didn’t help you out.
and ventures are sick. i don’t even try and match the trucks and the wb anymore.

[Horsemeat]

I agree with the “effective wheelbase is bogus” point. Went through such severe gear madness over Covid time, that I now have something like 14 sets of trucks 8.0-8.75 in multiple brands. I tried pairing so many things based off the “science” and to match my short height. It wasn’t until I just tried completely random setups that I found stuff that worked for me. 

Example: these are all setups I tried with the Ishod 8.38 twin tail

Venture 5.8, 5.6 with whatever wheels all felt perfect. I didn’t try this for so long because I thought it’d be clunky. The pop was so intense I’d feel it snap into my feet, unlike any other setup I had ventures on.

Indy 149 standards, good feeling pop but sluggish and heavy feeling

Ace 44 classics which I think are actually heavier than 149 Indy’s felt light poppy and fun even with 55mm wide heavy wheels.

149 thunders with 53mm wheels on the same board had a dull terrible feeling pop

And the setup that made me give up on all this calculating: 148 thunders on 52 mm spitfires had a super light crisp pop and felt almost as good as ventures. There should be barely any difference between the 149 thunders tho, right?

Idk but bringing it back to venture 2020, the twin tail, venture setup cured my madness. Got me back enjoying skating, once the madness fog cleared.

[Vintagebody]

Had my first session Ventures today! V-hollow lights 5.8, on a Real Mason Silva 8,5 deck with 14.25wb, that was already used lightly. I do ghostpop, even tho im used to Thunders raws, but its also a deck that for sure favours indy, as its a pretty hefty deck. It does feel very nice and crispy when I do pop, and I feel very stable!
Idk how people complain about Venture turn. They turn perfectly fine to me who's used to Thunder. Can even do rather tight 180 carves.

[hiljentaa]

Had my first session Ventures today! V-hollow lights 5.8, on a Real Mason Silva 8,5 deck with 14.25wb, that was already used lightly. I do ghostpop, even tho im used to Thunders raws, but its also a deck that for sure favours indy, as its a pretty hefty deck. It does feel very nice and crispy when I do pop, and I feel very stable!
Idk how people complain about Venture turn. They turn perfectly fine to me who's used to Thunder. Can even do rather tight 180 carves.

The 5.8s feel pretty nimble to me compared to 5.6.

Switched from 5.2 lows & 51s to 5.2 light highs & 53s today. Results to be determined.

[Yakusoku2]

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Had my first session Ventures today! V-hollow lights 5.8, on a Real Mason Silva 8,5 deck with 14.25wb, that was already used lightly. I do ghostpop, even tho im used to Thunders raws, but its also a deck that for sure favours indy, as its a pretty hefty deck. It does feel very nice and crispy when I do pop, and I feel very stable!
Idk how people complain about Venture turn. They turn perfectly fine to me who's used to Thunder. Can even do rather tight 180 carves.

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The 5.8s feel pretty nimble to me compared to 5.6.

Switched from 5.2 lows & 51s to 5.2 light highs & 53s today. Results to be determined.

I’m interested in reading the results!

[rikki]

Ok, so I got my first ever Ventures last week.

Got the 5.6 Hi V-Lights, skating them on an 8.25" / 31.5" length / 13.88" wb. No custom shit, the bushings are stock.

Skater profile: I'm not a great skater, but I can tell how my equipment affects my skating and I know what I like.

Two sessions in so far:

The first one was just a quick cruise to the store with some ollies/downhill. The trucks felt instantly kinda "right" and, eh, comfortable, for lack of a better word. My pop is not massive (I'm in my late 40s) but it felt kinda solid with the Ventures, more so than on Aces or Indys. Also, enjoyed the instant overall stability, didn't feel like I had to screw around with tightening/loosening the trucks or breaking in the bushings for a long period of time. The turn was different from e.g. Indys, but I did not dislike it at all. Every truck turns, it's all relative. Initial reaction after first sesh: great trucks.

The second session was ledge/curb sesh at my local schoolyard which has a nice staircase that's short but otherwise perfect for legde stuff. Started with ollies / flatground and some fs 50-50 stalls on the lowest stair. Lo and behold, the first 50-50 stall just popped perfectly into place. There's that "solid" feel again. Overall I felt like my ollies were benefiting from the trucks.

The sesh continued with fs 50-50 grinds on the stair, where again I felt like the solid-feeling ollie helped me secure the grinds more consistently than before. Based on what I'd read about Ventures, I imagined the grind would be significantly worse than e.g. on Indys. It didn't feel like that. Maybe a tiny bit at first, but after a normal wax job on the stair the grinds were there, nice and smooth, no problem.

I suck at bs 50-50 grinds, but as I tried them even they felt better than before, as the trucks seemed to give me a bit of extra confidence with their stability.

Finished the session with more flatground and ollies up to the higher stairs, where I again felt my pop was better and the overall feel was more solid.

Note: I skate a lot of transition, and I'm yet to try the trucks on bigger transition at high speed. As I like my trucks pretty tight even on transition, I'm kinda positive these won't be a dissappointment.

Overall I like these trucks very, very much and I'm super glad I gave Ventures a shot. I think they are going to feel even better as I get more used to them. No complaints whatsoever as of yet. Pretty stoked about them – definitely a keeper for a street setup. Looking forward to skating them more.

p.s. Oh, and the short length and wheelbase 31.5" / 13.88" of the board felt nice with these trucks. Whereas the deck felt cramped on Indys, it did not feel like that with Ventures. Felt like my wheelbase goldilocks zone with Ventures would be at around 14.125".

Me likey.

[rocklobster]

You're Awake - welcome to the club

What 8.25 are you riding with that short WB?

[notinternetfamous]

You're Awake - welcome to the club

What 8.25 are you riding with that short WB?

sounds like the DLX true fit mold shape
https://www.realskateboards.com/spring-2023/

[LebowskisRug]

Polished my Kader 5.6 V Hollow. Used a dremel with some buffing wheels and went 80, 200, 600, then a buffing wheel on a hand drill to finish them off. Kinda removed a few of my grind marks but those will come back immediately.

[Sedition]

I ride Indys, and was on the fence about giving Venture another shot (it's been awhile). Then this morning I saw that NHS is doing a collab with Pokemon. I immediately ordered a set of 5.6. Fuck this NHS nonsense.

[rikki]

You're Awake - welcome to the club

What 8.25 are you riding with that short WB?

It's the Antihero Grant Taylor 'Terrestrial Seasonings' model (DLX/BBS, yes). Yeah, the wb is weirdly short, Skatedeluxe lists it at 14" but it's 13.88" in reality. EDIT: the DLX true fit mold, that's the one, thanks.

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/anti-hero-grant-terrestrial-seasonings-8-25-skateboard-deck-multi_p162840

Lately I've been riding basic DLX 8.25 shapes with Indys (a lot of transition as said), but I'm kinda on the fence about the 14.38" wb for street stuff with Ventures as I'm only 5'9" and the total wheelbase will result as long.

Actually really enjoyed the short deck, will probably explore more shorter decks/wheelbases from now on, feels fun.

[LebowskisRug]

I ride Indys, and was on the fence about giving Venture another shot (it's been awhile). Then this morning I saw that NHS is doing a collab with Pokemon. I immediately ordered a set of 5.6. Fuck this NHS nonsense.

One thing I will say is you note you ride the DLX 8.25, which has a fairly short tail and Venture cast could make it feel sorta heavy. If you can find a cheap forged set do not abandon hope if cast don't fully work.

Also, I'm with you on not wanting to support NHS. I thought about getting Bronson Ceramics at one point, but didn't because they're under the distro. I am fine riding Thunder or Venture mostly because of the DLX umbrella and only was on Indys because I thought I skated better on them, but I don't.

[Sedition]

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I ride Indys, and was on the fence about giving Venture another shot (it's been awhile). Then this morning I saw that NHS is doing a collab with Pokemon. I immediately ordered a set of 5.6. Fuck this NHS nonsense.

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One thing I will say is you note you ride the DLX 8.25, which has a fairly short tail and Venture cast could make it feel sorta heavy. If you can find a cheap forged set do not abandon hope if cast don't fully work.

Also, I'm with you on not wanting to support NHS. I thought about getting Bronson Ceramics at one point, but didn't because they're under the distro. I am fine riding Thunder or Venture mostly because of the DLX umbrella and only was on Indys because I thought I skated better on them, but I don't.

The 8.25 has like an 8.5 tail, which is actually a tad longer than other common DLX tails (e.g. the 8.38. 8.4, and 8.5, which are like 8.437, IIRC). And don't worry...I got a set of both Cast Hollows and V-Hollows coming. Full Madness, let's roll. I hate NHS, but man, how I do like my Indys.   

[LebowskisRug]

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I ride Indys, and was on the fence about giving Venture another shot (it's been awhile). Then this morning I saw that NHS is doing a collab with Pokemon. I immediately ordered a set of 5.6. Fuck this NHS nonsense.

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One thing I will say is you note you ride the DLX 8.25, which has a fairly short tail and Venture cast could make it feel sorta heavy. If you can find a cheap forged set do not abandon hope if cast don't fully work.

Also, I'm with you on not wanting to support NHS. I thought about getting Bronson Ceramics at one point, but didn't because they're under the distro. I am fine riding Thunder or Venture mostly because of the DLX umbrella and only was on Indys because I thought I skated better on them, but I don't.

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The 8.25 has like an 8.5 tail, which is actually a tad longer than other common DLX tails (e.g. the 8.38. 8.4, and 8.5, which are like 8.437, IIRC). And don't worry...I got a set of both Cast Hollows and V-Hollows coming. Full Madness, let's roll. I hate NHS, but man, how I do like my Indys.

That's not the case actually. The 8.25 has a 6.5, the 8.5 is 6.625, and my recent 8.4 was between 6.625 and 6.725. The 8.38 is also 6.68. I hate short tails so its the one measurement I always keep track of and the 8.25 is not my preferred deck because of its tail although I will ride them. My normal BBS 8.38 is only 6.675, which isn't much longer, but I vastly prefer it to the DLX 8.25 and will ride the 8.4 and 8.38 before I'd ride the 8.25.

Honestly the cast pop feel isn't insanely different from Indy. It has a slightly delayed timing and is a bit heavier, but I see why people make the comparison.

[Sedition]

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I ride Indys, and was on the fence about giving Venture another shot (it's been awhile). Then this morning I saw that NHS is doing a collab with Pokemon. I immediately ordered a set of 5.6. Fuck this NHS nonsense.

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One thing I will say is you note you ride the DLX 8.25, which has a fairly short tail and Venture cast could make it feel sorta heavy. If you can find a cheap forged set do not abandon hope if cast don't fully work.

Also, I'm with you on not wanting to support NHS. I thought about getting Bronson Ceramics at one point, but didn't because they're under the distro. I am fine riding Thunder or Venture mostly because of the DLX umbrella and only was on Indys because I thought I skated better on them, but I don't.

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The 8.25 has like an 8.5 tail, which is actually a tad longer than other common DLX tails (e.g. the 8.38. 8.4, and 8.5, which are like 8.437, IIRC). And don't worry...I got a set of both Cast Hollows and V-Hollows coming. Full Madness, let's roll. I hate NHS, but man, how I do like my Indys.

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That's not the case actually. The 8.25 has a 6.5, the 8.5 is 6.625, and my recent 8.4 was between 6.625 and 6.725. The 8.38 is also 6.68. I hate short tails so its the one measurement I always keep track of and the 8.25 is not my preferred deck because of its tail although I will ride them. My normal BBS 8.38 is only 6.675, which isn't much longer, but I vastly prefer it to the DLX 8.25 and will ride the 8.4 and 8.38 before I'd ride the 8.25.

Honestly the cast pop feel isn't insanely different from Indy. It has a slightly delayed timing and is a bit heavier, but I see why people make the comparison.

My experience has been different. I measure every deck I get. Never once had an 8.38, 8.4, or 8.5 with a LONGER tail than the 8.25. The opposite, actually. I stopped riding those mostly because of that exact issue (well, I love 14.38wb, too)—I, also, hate short tails (even worse, when they are more rounded off). I look forward to trying Venture, again…but I have been down this road before…will anything be different this time around? TBA. I’ll certainly post a follow-up once I’ve spent some time on them.

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I ride Indys, and was on the fence about giving Venture another shot (it's been awhile). Then this morning I saw that NHS is doing a collab with Pokemon. I immediately ordered a set of 5.6. Fuck this NHS nonsense.

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One thing I will say is you note you ride the DLX 8.25, which has a fairly short tail and Venture cast could make it feel sorta heavy. If you can find a cheap forged set do not abandon hope if cast don't fully work.

Also, I'm with you on not wanting to support NHS. I thought about getting Bronson Ceramics at one point, but didn't because they're under the distro. I am fine riding Thunder or Venture mostly because of the DLX umbrella and only was on Indys because I thought I skated better on them, but I don't.

nhs is pretty harsh.

i will have an occasional excellent session on indy’s. and then go back to not liking them, wait a few months/years and try them again, rinse and repeat.

thunders might work the easiest for me, ventures are my favorite.
i used to hate on forged baseplates, but skated some thunder 148s that are forged and loved them, looking forward to trying some venture hi’s with the forged plate.

main difference for me, in adjusting from indy to venture pop, is just moving my popping foot, further towards the tip, with ventures. ventures lend themselves to an excellent ollie, which is a trick i will always struggle with. i just don’t spend much time doing ollies.

[Murge]

I ride Indys, and was on the fence about giving Venture another shot (it's been awhile). Then this morning I saw that NHS is doing a collab with Pokemon. I immediately ordered a set of 5.6. Fuck this NHS nonsense.

If it helps. It was an easier transition to ventures coming off Indy’s for me  than when I tried to transition to ventures from thunders. Not saying that ventures feel like Indy’s. But whe I tried  to go from thunders to venture I went back to thunder it felt too off and felt like i was wasting sessions trying to get used to it. But when i  went from Indy to venture by the end of the first session  I saw the light by the second or third I felt comfortable

[LebowskisRug]

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I ride Indys, and was on the fence about giving Venture another shot (it's been awhile). Then this morning I saw that NHS is doing a collab with Pokemon. I immediately ordered a set of 5.6. Fuck this NHS nonsense.

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One thing I will say is you note you ride the DLX 8.25, which has a fairly short tail and Venture cast could make it feel sorta heavy. If you can find a cheap forged set do not abandon hope if cast don't fully work.

Also, I'm with you on not wanting to support NHS. I thought about getting Bronson Ceramics at one point, but didn't because they're under the distro. I am fine riding Thunder or Venture mostly because of the DLX umbrella and only was on Indys because I thought I skated better on them, but I don't.

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The 8.25 has like an 8.5 tail, which is actually a tad longer than other common DLX tails (e.g. the 8.38. 8.4, and 8.5, which are like 8.437, IIRC). And don't worry...I got a set of both Cast Hollows and V-Hollows coming. Full Madness, let's roll. I hate NHS, but man, how I do like my Indys.

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That's not the case actually. The 8.25 has a 6.5, the 8.5 is 6.625, and my recent 8.4 was between 6.625 and 6.725. The 8.38 is also 6.68. I hate short tails so its the one measurement I always keep track of and the 8.25 is not my preferred deck because of its tail although I will ride them. My normal BBS 8.38 is only 6.675, which isn't much longer, but I vastly prefer it to the DLX 8.25 and will ride the 8.4 and 8.38 before I'd ride the 8.25.

Honestly the cast pop feel isn't insanely different from Indy. It has a slightly delayed timing and is a bit heavier, but I see why people make the comparison.

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My experience has been different. I measure every deck I get. Never once had an 8.38, 8.4, or 8.5 with a LONGER tail than the 8.25. The opposite, actually. I stopped riding those mostly because of that exact issue (well, I love 14.38wb, too)—I, also, hate short tails (even worse, when they are more rounded off). I look forward to trying Venture, again…but I have been down this road before…will anything be different this time around? TBA. I’ll certainly post a follow-up once I’ve spent some time on them.

I write them down as well and below is a pic of the tail measurement of my last 8.4. I rode one 2 months ago (Grimple coloring book one) and took measurement pics for a friend when I set it up. It has the same tail length as the "8.5", but a longer nose and is actually 14.25.

I've had 2 of these at different times and both measured the same. I no longer have the pics of my last 8.38, but rode 4 last year and they were all the same.

https://www.skatedeluxe.ch/en/anti-hero-grimplestix-on-vacation-8-38-skateboard-deck-multi_p158529?cPath=42&brand_id=103

These dudes are always accurate with measurements and confirm the tail is 6.625 on the 8.38, which is longer. I'll be going by a shop Thursday and can grab pics of that as well, but there is absolutely no DLX deck in 8.25 and above with a tail smaller than 6.5.

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am i the only one that likes short tails?