Venture 2020

[Mbrimson88]

lo is so damn good, they had me running 5.2 lo with a 8.5
bigger sizes is the dream

I wonder if anyone could ever trim down a regular set of 6.1s the same way that others have trimmed down some other trucks, eg shortened the axle lengths on Indy 215s and reduced hanger wings and the like.  It would be way harder to do, but I imagine someone out there could do it, just reshape some taller hangers down to lower height hangers.

Comparing both a regular and a low truck hanger, I could see it working easily enough, but I am not at all skilled enough to attempt it.


Over the years I have seen people who blew out pivot cups and have been skating metal on metal for a bit and it grinded down the hanger nub enough to change the truck height.  Just taking down the pivot point on the hanger nub would be part way there, but shaving some off the wings as well would be needed I think.

Leave it at that for now, but it could be done.

[FatGuy92]

venture low talks, interesting

around 7:14, Sewa starts talking about how he only skates Ventures pre 2011. does anyone know what the actual difference is between the old and new ones? i got back into skating like 6 years ago and had no clue the geo changed during that time.

[TomCruz]

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venture low talks, interesting

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around 7:14, Sewa starts talking about how he only skates Ventures pre 2011. does anyone know what the actual difference is between the old and new ones? i got back into skating like 6 years ago and had no clue the geo changed during that time.

The old Ventures have less wobble to them, which I preferred.  They also turned slightly less.  I could never get used to the latest version, they just have a different feel.

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venture low talks, interesting

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around 7:14, Sewa starts talking about how he only skates Ventures pre 2011. does anyone know what the actual difference is between the old and new ones? i got back into skating like 6 years ago and had no clue the geo changed during that time.

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The old Ventures have less wobble to them, which I preferred.  They also turned slightly less.  I could never get used to the latest version, they just have a different feel.

most of us venture folks skated the lo’s, or that’s how it felt.
there were two ‘old heads’ (both younger than me, but actually good at skating), that skated venture hi’s, exclusively, both on them from the very early 2000s. both switched around the time of the dlx acquisition. only one of them mentioned the dlx geo being different. he switched to 139s i think. the other guy (super super good) switched to ace, but i think that may have something to do with old industry connections.
aaaaaaaaaaanyways, i thought him liking the old ones was rad.

his treflips are really unique. i can’t think of someone else that does them like that. they are like a flatter, much higher daewon 360 flip. sorta (not really).
lots of flatground pop, which i love.

i really liked Ben’s last two videos. he and sewa did stumble over one another a bit, and Ben did over speak him too much. but overall mr degros has a really easy style and it works.

[notinternetfamous]

all this low talk has me contemplating in trying them out soon. just not sure if i can give up being able to turn lol
ever since i started riding ventures, it's always been on highs and with a flat top washer. should i just carry that over to the low's and will that be a decent compromise? it will most likely be paired with 52mm wheels

[rocklobster]

Another year, another year without 5.6 and up Venture Los.

[In A Jar]

Another year, another year without 5.6 and up Venture Los.

Seriously sucks. Instead we get shorter bushing "loose" trucks as they try to be Ace.  But at least Ace makes lows in big sizes. 

[iw0]

Another year, another year without 5.6 and up Venture Los.

if i keep telling myself they are coming, then they are coming

[Stanley Spadowski]

all this low talk has me contemplating in trying them out soon. just not sure if i can give up being able to turn lol
ever since i started riding ventures, it's always been on highs and with a flat top washer. should i just carry that over to the low's and will that be a decent compromise? it will most likely be paired with 52mm wheels

Start both trucks stock tightness for break in, then tighten/lossen from there. Lo’s are all I skate. As far as wheelbite, you’re gonna get that with any truck/ wheel combo. Having no wheelbite is a myth. Unless it’s high trucks with risers and small wheels

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all this low talk has me contemplating in trying them out soon. just not sure if i can give up being able to turn lol
ever since i started riding ventures, it's always been on highs and with a flat top washer. should i just carry that over to the low's and will that be a decent compromise? it will most likely be paired with 52mm wheels

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Start both trucks stock tightness for break in, then tighten/lossen from there. Lo’s are all I skate. As far as wheelbite, you’re gonna get that with any truck/ wheel combo. Having no wheelbite is a myth. Unless it’s high trucks with risers and small wheels

you’ll be able to turn, but not superfluously. all of that safety hands extra shit is out. pant leg sag checks, pager checks, that’s in.

[munchbox]

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all this low talk has me contemplating in trying them out soon. just not sure if i can give up being able to turn lol
ever since i started riding ventures, it's always been on highs and with a flat top washer. should i just carry that over to the low's and will that be a decent compromise? it will most likely be paired with 52mm wheels

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Start both trucks stock tightness for break in, then tighten/lossen from there. Lo’s are all I skate. As far as wheelbite, you’re gonna get that with any truck/ wheel combo. Having no wheelbite is a myth. Unless it’s high trucks with risers and small wheels

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you’ll be able to turn, but not superfluously. all of that safety hands extra shit is out. pant leg sag checks, pager checks, that’s in.

chandler burton is on the team

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all this low talk has me contemplating in trying them out soon. just not sure if i can give up being able to turn lol
ever since i started riding ventures, it's always been on highs and with a flat top washer. should i just carry that over to the low's and will that be a decent compromise? it will most likely be paired with 52mm wheels

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Start both trucks stock tightness for break in, then tighten/lossen from there. Lo’s are all I skate. As far as wheelbite, you’re gonna get that with any truck/ wheel combo. Having no wheelbite is a myth. Unless it’s high trucks with risers and small wheels

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you’ll be able to turn, but not superfluously. all of that safety hands extra shit is out. pant leg sag checks, pager checks, that’s in.

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chandler burton is on the team

great fuckin point, and i love that, for them.

but venture lo’s are a different story.

[flocke]

Another year, another year without 5.6 and up Venture Los.

i dont know how many comments, dm's they need till they make them

[Mbrimson88]

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Another year, another year without 5.6 and up Venture Los.

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i dont know how many comments, dm's they need till they make them

Who else have a wide low / mid truck besides the Indy mid, or Ace low?

I just wonder if the market is not enough that they haven't gone down that path at all, or they find that their existing product lines do enough for them not to warrant additions to the lines?


I guess even the forged baseplate on any normal Venture truck make it 52 mm in height, so that kind of matches the Indy mid anyway.

Only Ace for low at 49 mm in height and wide at 8.75 / AF1 60 then?

[Ok]

i thought it was interesting/cool, that ace started making a low. i was surprised….low trucks have been sorta out of favor for what? the last 10-12 years? more? i thought maybe it was going to be the start of a new wave.
but the pro’s that skated lo’s the longest, seemed to age out, and the other stalwarts, switched to venture hi’s, fairly recently. westgate, gino, felipe gustavo, pj, all maybe changed to hi’s?

i like trucks, they interest me more than any other skate part. i like something about all of the major brands.
but if i only had one more session, i’d grab some setup that had venture lo’s on it, and walk to a flatground spot.
that is the thing that kicks me of my fave trucks tho: walking to the spot. being stuck on 51s is….i love how small wheels feel when i pop/flip? but just rolling down the street sucks.

[Xen]

i thought it was interesting/cool, that ace started making a low. i was surprised….low trucks have been sorta out of favor for what? the last 10-12 years? more? i thought maybe it was going to be the start of a new wave.
but the pro’s that skated lo’s the longest, seemed to age out, and the other stalwarts, switched to venture hi’s, fairly recently. westgate, gino, felipe gustavo, pj, all maybe changed to hi’s?

i like trucks, they interest me more than any other skate part. i like something about all of the major brands.
but if i only had one more session, i’d grab some setup that had venture lo’s on it, and walk to a flatground spot.
that is the thing that kicks me of my fave trucks tho: walking to the spot. being stuck on 51s is….i love how small wheels feel when i pop/flip? but just rolling down the street sucks.

I chalked the pros switching from lo to hi based on availability, they clearly make less low than hi; Prod made the switch for 'more pop'.

51s are both great and shitty at the same time =D

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great and shitty.
exactly!

[rocklobster]

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i thought it was interesting/cool, that ace started making a low. i was surprised….low trucks have been sorta out of favor for what? the last 10-12 years? more? i thought maybe it was going to be the start of a new wave.
but the pro’s that skated lo’s the longest, seemed to age out, and the other stalwarts, switched to venture hi’s, fairly recently. westgate, gino, felipe gustavo, pj, all maybe changed to hi’s?

i like trucks, they interest me more than any other skate part. i like something about all of the major brands.
but if i only had one more session, i’d grab some setup that had venture lo’s on it, and walk to a flatground spot.
that is the thing that kicks me of my fave trucks tho: walking to the spot. being stuck on 51s is….i love how small wheels feel when i pop/flip? but just rolling down the street sucks.

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I chalked the pros switching from lo to hi based on availability, they clearly make less low than hi; Prod made the switch for 'more pop'.

51s are both great and shitty at the same time =D

Either Lows are their best selling truck or they're cutting back production on Lows to focus on the His - Lows are usually sold out on online stores.

[Mbrimson88]

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i thought it was interesting/cool, that ace started making a low. i was surprised….low trucks have been sorta out of favor for what? the last 10-12 years? more? i thought maybe it was going to be the start of a new wave.
but the pro’s that skated lo’s the longest, seemed to age out, and the other stalwarts, switched to venture hi’s, fairly recently. westgate, gino, felipe gustavo, pj, all maybe changed to hi’s?

i like trucks, they interest me more than any other skate part. i like something about all of the major brands.
but if i only had one more session, i’d grab some setup that had venture lo’s on it, and walk to a flatground spot.
that is the thing that kicks me of my fave trucks tho: walking to the spot. being stuck on 51s is….i love how small wheels feel when i pop/flip? but just rolling down the street sucks.

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I chalked the pros switching from lo to hi based on availability, they clearly make less low than hi; Prod made the switch for 'more pop'.

51s are both great and shitty at the same time =D

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Either Lows are their best selling truck or they're cutting back production on Lows to focus on the His - Lows are usually sold out on online stores.

From talking to some shops people, they will just not order any more low trucks, as they don't sell for them, in the same way they don't order smaller than 52 mm wheels, which might sell out the fastest too, but even Indy mids are being cleared out of some bigger shops just because they have way too much stock and need to get rid of them.

Once the low truck on a sub 8" board with 50 or 51 mm wheels might have been the ideal setup for tech dudes, but that is long gone, replaced by more people riding 8.25 through 8.38 to 8.5 and bigger, on any normal sized trucks on wheels anywhere from 52 mm through 53 and 54 mm sizes up to 60 mm in some cases.

[Banned from the room]

You know what would be interesting to see

I feel like Dlxsf could sell replacement 8 hole base plate this year.

The Rock Um Like Koston 8 hole baseplate conversion kit.

Perhaps a diy template.

The Kader truck that just dropped is STRAIGHT UP FIRE!

I getting 5.8 hollows ASAP.

I love my 6.1s but yes they hurt very much with big wheels.

I fuckin need the 62mm beat downs and the 5.8  like yesterday.

Also my 6.1s are reacting funny to street salt or something.
They got yellow water marks on them.
I've never seen that happen to trucks.

What's chemically different this time?

[Banned from the room]

Another year, another year without 5.6 and up Venture Los.

You could just get a big tracker low and paint a red v on it.

It'll look like the real deal at least?

[munchbox]

cant find the height of trackers for the life of me

[Banned from the room]

cant find the height of trackers for the life of me

I'll ask a homie if he could measure but he's kinda far away so who knows if he'll do it.

The biggest truck 215 or whatever was about the height of a thunder 149 under foot. He had 58mm og classics on it.

The pivot angle is extreme. Like an old school truck. Points forward.

I'm talking about the dart I think

The smallest darts like a 6.1 but it's definitely way lower and the turn is like a Venture with a cut top bushing. Like almost identical.

I imagine the Dart has a vertical kingpin too. On account of the pivot angle

[munchbox]

tracker 2024?

[munchbox]

found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?

venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that
people did it with indys before the mids

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?

[rocklobster]

found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?
venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?

If you have the time, tool and clamp setup then go for it. The last time I swapped to inverted kingpin I smashed my thumb with the hammer trying to knock the kingpin out, plus I can't smith grind so it was not worth the effort.

The bigger issue is that unless you have a threaded baseplate for the kingpin to screw into them it will always wobble loose. I think it's been reported on the Indy Mids and the solution was to use Loctite. A loose kingpin would drive me crazy.

[Xen]

found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?

venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that
people did it with indys before the mids

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?

Would a low top work? Sand down whatever you've been using?

[munchbox]

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found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?
venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?

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If you have the time, tool and clamp setup then go for it. The last time I swapped to inverted kingpin I smashed my thumb with the hammer trying to knock the kingpin out, plus I can't smith grind so it was not worth the effort.

The bigger issue is that unless you have a threaded baseplate for the kingpin to screw into them it will always wobble loose. I think it's been reported on the Indy Mids and the solution was to use Loctite. A loose kingpin would drive me crazy.

yeah a floating kingpin sounds like a nightmare
thats enough for me to not bother

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found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?

venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that
people did it with indys before the mids

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?

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Would a low top work? Sand down whatever you've been using?

thats looking like the ticket, 1mm or 2 off
cant stand doing it by hand
will see if a belt sander is around

[Mbrimson88]

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found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?
venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?

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If you have the time, tool and clamp setup then go for it. The last time I swapped to inverted kingpin I smashed my thumb with the hammer trying to knock the kingpin out, plus I can't smith grind so it was not worth the effort.

The bigger issue is that unless you have a threaded baseplate for the kingpin to screw into them it will always wobble loose. I think it's been reported on the Indy Mids and the solution was to use Loctite. A loose kingpin would drive me crazy.

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yeah a floating kingpin sounds like a nightmare
thats enough for me to not bother

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found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?

venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that
people did it with indys before the mids

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?

[close]

Would a low top work? Sand down whatever you've been using?

[close]

thats looking like the ticket, 1mm or 2 off
cant stand doing it by hand
will see if a belt sander is around

I could have checked back through old posts, but what bushings do you usually use in your trucks?

That would determine what might work best for you, eg stock bushings, then try the Venture loose kit - lower kingpin means kingpin nut down more to make it the same feeling truck as normal stock bushings anyway, but I am guessing you have something else going on there.


Trying to think of any other brands that have lower bushings, besides the Ace low bushing kit, which might be a go as well, so you don't have to change / sand down or otherwise mess with an existing set of bushings.

Once you are used to the process, it is not that big a deal, but I think I took a while to get to where I am now, cutting them down or sanding or machining them takes a bit of practice, to say the least.

[munchbox]

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found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?
venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?

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If you have the time, tool and clamp setup then go for it. The last time I swapped to inverted kingpin I smashed my thumb with the hammer trying to knock the kingpin out, plus I can't smith grind so it was not worth the effort.

The bigger issue is that unless you have a threaded baseplate for the kingpin to screw into them it will always wobble loose. I think it's been reported on the Indy Mids and the solution was to use Loctite. A loose kingpin would drive me crazy.

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yeah a floating kingpin sounds like a nightmare
thats enough for me to not bother

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found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?

venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that
people did it with indys before the mids

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?

[close]

Would a low top work? Sand down whatever you've been using?

[close]

thats looking like the ticket, 1mm or 2 off
cant stand doing it by hand
will see if a belt sander is around

[close]

I could have checked back through old posts, but what bushings do you usually use in your trucks?

That would determine what might work best for you, eg stock bushings, then try the Venture loose kit - lower kingpin means kingpin nut down more to make it the same feeling truck as normal stock bushings anyway, but I am guessing you have something else going on there.


Trying to think of any other brands that have lower bushings, besides the Ace low bushing kit, which might be a go as well, so you don't have to change / sand down or otherwise mess with an existing set of bushings.

Once you are used to the process, it is not that big a deal, but I think I took a while to get to where I am now, cutting them down or sanding or machining them takes a bit of practice, to say the least.

was running 97a supercush but they are harder to find now
switched to 98a doh dohs

no clue what hard bottom soft top feels like