Venture 2020

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Ace mediums or hard are a bit longer than stock, but they turn soooo fucking good. Mediums if you like to carve, hards if you want to keep the stock venture feel with slightly more turn. I run it without the bottom washer and a flat top washer, fuck the geometry, I can't tell a difference.

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Can second this. I’m using ace hard bushings sanded down on my grip tape and they feel carvy and stable.

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I was thinking about trying the ace bottom for sure. Those things are tough af

They're a bit taller than venture bottoms. Carvy yet feel like they have better rebound. I'm hoping they provide the same feel through a range of temperatures unlike venture and thunder bushings.

[GT]

The:-00? On insta vids means the number of installment of this video series “V-Files” And those 8 hole baseplates should be ready soon. Keep your ears to the streets for an announcement 👍

Venture have confirmed.

Not sure if this was addresses before.
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[Unkle Fleak]

The:-00? On insta vids means the number of installment of this video series “V-Files” And those 8 hole baseplates should be ready soon. Keep your ears to the streets for an announcement 👍

Venture have confirmed.

Not sure if this was addresses before.
✌🏽

Venture is the clear winner of the award that Indy is disqualified from.
Who ever is giving the people what they want a dlx needs to be held a loft and given cookies

[YungJugg]

what happened to deluxe’s supercush bushings? can’t find them anywhere

[BeachChicken]

I don't know if anyone is really asking for the redrilled plates if they're based on stock holes. In order to have enough metal between the holes they have to be offset by 3/8" which reduces the wheelbase from +3.25 to +2.75 making them in line with Ace. Pretty extreme change.

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I don't know if anyone is really asking for the redrilled plates if they're based on stock holes. In order to have enough metal between the holes they have to be offset by 3/8" which reduces the wheelbase from +3.25 to +2.75 making them in line with Ace. Pretty extreme change.

On a cast plate 1/4" difference might work ok? Don't know if it'll stretch and change shape much

[Mbrimson88]

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I don't know if anyone is really asking for the redrilled plates if they're based on stock holes. In order to have enough metal between the holes they have to be offset by 3/8" which reduces the wheelbase from +3.25 to +2.75 making them in line with Ace. Pretty extreme change.

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On a cast plate 1/4" difference might work ok? Don't know if it'll stretch and change shape much

Drilled quite a few out myself in various lengths and seen both forged and cast baseplates drilled out at 1/4" and they hold up fine.

I could see some people who don't tighten their bolts down enough might oval things out to the point where there could be some issues, but even on other really ovaled and messed up looking baseplates, the redrill of 1/4" worked great and they hold up just fine too.

The six hole baseplates like the Indy 159, 169, 215 and Stage 4 reissues are at 3/8" and that is almost too much, which is why they were changed back in the early 90s, so around 1/4" works nicely to put the bolts closer to the middle, without them being too close to the other holes, or too close to the end of the nose / tail.


Who knows exactly what they will be if they do come out, but I think they would even do really well if they brought out a single middle drilled Venture baseplate, like a Thunder pattern, so somewhere in between where they currently are and what would be 1/4" but that is just me thinking about what a Venture truck might seem like if it was only offset by a small amount, not quite as much as the double drilled baseplates I have skated for the last month or so.

[BeachChicken]

Looking at the few photos online they're definitely drilled further than 1/4". I've mocked up such holes on the plates before and the gap looked narrower than the photos online. I also noticed Koston seems to be skating normal Ventures now or the normal hole configuration and one of Ishods stories is the same.

Ishod has been on them for a while and now in several videos. I wonder if he's been filming for an intro part. Would be like Bobby 2020 all over again for my Venture stoke levels.

[hiljentaa]

Redrilling baseplates is blasphemy.

I don't get the obsession with trying to make your trucks into something they aren't. Constantly fucking with bushings, etc.

If you don't like em how they are, try another brand!

[manuduncan]

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The:-00? On insta vids means the number of installment of this video series “V-Files” And those 8 hole baseplates should be ready soon. Keep your ears to the streets for an announcement 👍

Venture have confirmed.

Not sure if this was addresses before.
✌🏽

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Venture is the clear winner of the award that Indy is disqualified from.
Who ever is giving the people what they want a dlx needs to be held a loft and given cookies

nah ventures are wholly disqualified from this award if you can't buy their stock bushings anywhere

love everything about em except for that. just cmon already every other truck brand does that at least

like 45% of the posts in this very thread are about what aftermarket bushings are passable

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The:-00? On insta vids means the number of installment of this video series “V-Files” And those 8 hole baseplates should be ready soon. Keep your ears to the streets for an announcement 👍

Venture have confirmed.

Not sure if this was addresses before.
✌🏽

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Venture is the clear winner of the award that Indy is disqualified from.
Who ever is giving the people what they want a dlx needs to be held a loft and given cookies

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nah ventures are wholly disqualified from this award if you can't buy their stock bushings anywhere

love everything about em except for that. just cmon already every other truck brand does that at least

like 45% of the posts in this very thread are about what aftermarket bushings are passable

I just use stock bushing and crank the MF up until I can't turn at all 😃

[Unkle Fleak]

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I don't know if anyone is really asking for the redrilled plates if they're based on stock holes. In order to have enough metal between the holes they have to be offset by 3/8" which reduces the wheelbase from +3.25 to +2.75 making them in line with Ace. Pretty extreme change.

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On a cast plate 1/4" difference might work ok? Don't know if it'll stretch and change shape much

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Drilled quite a few out myself in various lengths and seen both forged and cast baseplates drilled out at 1/4" and they hold up fine.

I could see some people who don't tighten their bolts down enough might oval things out to the point where there could be some issues, but even on other really ovaled and messed up looking baseplates, the redrill of 1/4" worked great and they hold up just fine too.

The six hole baseplates like the Indy 159, 169, 215 and Stage 4 reissues are at 3/8" and that is almost too much, which is why they were changed back in the early 90s, so around 1/4" works nicely to put the bolts closer to the middle, without them being too close to the other holes, or too close to the end of the nose / tail.


Who knows exactly what they will be if they do come out, but I think they would even do really well if they brought out a single middle drilled Venture baseplate, like a Thunder pattern, so somewhere in between where they currently are and what would be 1/4" but that is just me thinking about what a Venture truck might seem like if it was only offset by a small amount, not quite as much as the double drilled baseplates I have skated for the last month or so.

If they drop I’ll test the loose bolts theory. I love to rattle and shimmy around on my ventures.

Having a 1/4” option for oversized wbs would be the fucking beez.

Kids are doing roll on grinds and park riding. Only a few will notice the tensile decay

[rikki]

Redrilling baseplates is blasphemy.

I don't get the obsession with trying to make your trucks into something they aren't. Constantly fucking with bushings, etc.

If you don't like em how they are, try another brand!

THIS. Seems like way too much of a f*cking chore, if not anything else. Life's too short. I want my Ventures for how they are, not for how the "could be".

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Redrilling baseplates is blasphemy.

I don't get the obsession with trying to make your trucks into something they aren't. Constantly fucking with bushings, etc.

If you don't like em how they are, try another brand!

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THIS. Seems like way too much of a f*cking chore, if not anything else. Life's too short. I want my Ventures for how they are, not for how the "could be".

It's more to be able to have decks which are stupidly made with wheelbase which is too long. That's all.
So can have say deluxe shape with 14.25 Or 14.38 and make it 14" WB . With out drilling the board because much like saying who wants to change bushings and all that , who really wants to drill boards

[BeachChicken]

My hot take is that effective wheelbase is not actually as big of a deal as people make it out to be. I've had better Tre flips on Ventures with a longer wb, but shorter deck, than something longer with a shorter WB. I've skated the DLX easy rider 8.25x14 with Ventures and I found it no more nimble than my normal 8.38x14.38 because it's actually a marginal amount longer and the long ass tail made the pop feel weaker. I had less snap on anything that scooped. Sometimes you just gotta try a deck. Conversely I had a Hardbody 8.38 with a small ass nose that was 31.8 and 14.2 and the nollie pop felt like a chore.

[rikki]

Yeah my pop went haywire on Ventures coupled with a Crailtap 8.25 / 14" wb, the long tail just messed up my timing completely. Tail / nose length and angle are more important than wheelbase.

[j....soy.....]

Yeah, I liked the idea of the dimensions but stood on one and it just seemed too damn flat…

I’d consider drilling a set of baseplates after I’ve ground down a set of trucks, just nice to have around. 

That said, a lot of the asks I see on the boards, when it actually happens it’s not life changing….

I just ended up sizing down trucks/boards….

[Mbrimson88]

Yeah, I liked the idea of the dimensions but stood on one and it just seemed too damn flat…

I’d consider drilling a set of baseplates after I’ve ground down a set of trucks, just nice to have around. 

That said, a lot of the asks I see on the boards, when it actually happens it’s not life changing….

I just ended up sizing down trucks/boards….

It definitely varies depending on the board, where the bolt holes are drilled into the deck with regard to kicks, concave and other things.

The only reason I have drilled in so many is I had old trucks lying around, so thought that I could see if they work.  These drilled in baseplates on longer wheelbase boards that the kicks have worn down actually work quite well, but I haven't ever looked at putting these trucks as they are on brand new boards to have a life changing Venture experience.

More just putting together old parts to see what works, if things are better, worse, etc.

Interesting and fun, more than anything.


I totally get what some people are saying about redrilling trucks too - they are tried and tested and have been like this for a while now because they work as they are, different trucks for different things, which is all good and well.

Sitting on "museum levels" of old and used parts is good for some things.

[Esmith5488]

My hot take is that effective wheelbase is not actually as big of a deal as people make it out to be. I've had better Tre flips on Ventures with a longer wb, but shorter deck, than something longer with a shorter WB. I've skated the DLX easy rider 8.25x14 with Ventures and I found it no more nimble than my normal 8.38x14.38 because it's actually a marginal amount longer and the long ass tail made the pop feel weaker. I had less snap on anything that scooped. Sometimes you just gotta try a deck. Conversely I had a Hardbody 8.38 with a small ass nose that was 31.8 and 14.2 and the nollie pop felt like a chore.

That 825 easy rider with ventures sent me on a month long bout of total gear madness. The tail and length was too much for me. Loved the nose though

[BeachChicken]

The tail is legit as long as most noses. It's got a longer nose than most 8.5-8.6. I respect Ben's ability but it's hilarious the lengths he went to to make a really big deck fit a very specific Venture to suit his skating. Short people who like short wheelbases..... probably also like short boards too.

[Unkle Fleak]

My hot take is that effective wheelbase is not actually as big of a deal as people make it out to be. I've had better Tre flips on Ventures with a longer wb, but shorter deck, than something longer with a shorter WB. I've skated the DLX easy rider 8.25x14 with Ventures and I found it no more nimble than my normal 8.38x14.38 because it's actually a marginal amount longer and the long ass tail made the pop feel weaker. I had less snap on anything that scooped. Sometimes you just gotta try a deck. Conversely I had a Hardbody 8.38 with a small ass nose that was 31.8 and 14.2 and the nollie pop felt like a chore.

For me it’s mostly about fingers of flat to spare. I want that.

We should go old school and just do a long channel route like the trucks on my first lil banana board. Any wb you want

[Unkle Fleak]

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Yeah, I liked the idea of the dimensions but stood on one and it just seemed too damn flat…

I’d consider drilling a set of baseplates after I’ve ground down a set of trucks, just nice to have around. 

That said, a lot of the asks I see on the boards, when it actually happens it’s not life changing….

I just ended up sizing down trucks/boards….

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It definitely varies depending on the board, where the bolt holes are drilled into the deck with regard to kicks, concave and other things.

The only reason I have drilled in so many is I had old trucks lying around, so thought that I could see if they work.  These drilled in baseplates on longer wheelbase boards that the kicks have worn down actually work quite well, but I haven't ever looked at putting these trucks as they are on brand new boards to have a life changing Venture experience.

More just putting together old parts to see what works, if things are better, worse, etc.

Interesting and fun, more than anything.


I totally get what some people are saying about redrilling trucks too - they are tried and tested and have been like this for a while now because they work as they are, different trucks for different things, which is all good and well.

Sitting on "museum levels" of old and used parts is good for some things.

I think your scientific skate content is fucking dope. Slap and ig would be paler without

[spanyard]

The tail is legit as long as most noses. It's got a longer nose than most 8.5-8.6. I respect Ben's ability but it's hilarious the lengths he went to to make a really big deck fit a very specific Venture to suit his skating. Short people who like short wheelbases..... probably also like short boards too.

Darn tootin' right you are.

[hiljentaa]

Maniac shit- considering trying lows on risers. Has anyone else on here tried this? What were your results?

Lows on risers should put em at ~51.3mm tall, so just slightly lower than the forged highs, but with a shorter effective wheelbase and way worse kingpin clearance.

Been on my 5.2 V-Lights highs for a long time now and really enjoy them. Had this curiosity for awhile though...

[j....soy.....]

If skating thunders with risers is commonplace….why not? 

[BeachChicken]

PJ Ladd did and when I messaged him to ask why he responded and said to get used to the V lights while he had new decks made to fit switching to highs.

People who usually do Thunders and risers (AKA not Ishod) do it on 148 and up, making the truck a 55mm height and likely cuz if not for their sponsors they'd ride Indy's cuz of their wheel size. Kinda different than running risers on lows to get a truck with bad KP clearance that likely won't skate much different than a V Light.

[munchbox]

ishod skates ventures at this point

[Unkle Fleak]

ishod skates ventures at this point

Yep. As everyone should. I was showing off the wheel bite resistance yesterday after work to a 2000s skater. He was tripping. Probably a lil bit heavier than I.

[Schinken]

Does anyone know, if venture changed their geometry of their "newer" trucks? I've been riding some v-lights 5.8 on and off for 2 years and recently got myself a set of standard 5.6 (black cast baseplate, hanger with venture logo)
Those 5.6 feel completely different. Better turn, softer bushings, almost like independent trucks. My 5.8 v-lights feel like super stable. Maxed out it feels like they turn way less.
I know v-lights extend the wb a little more than cast.

[roba]

never had v-lights but i'm guessing they could be a lil less turny due to the height. it's not like a day/night difference, right?