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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1290 on: March 23, 2023, 08:31:13 PM »
"hi my names glen. guess how many fingers i have?"

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1291 on: March 24, 2023, 08:36:32 AM »

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1292 on: March 24, 2023, 08:56:49 AM »
Abita trying to make it like he was attacking people with t-shirt folding jobs is embarrassingly defensive.

It's a perfect example of that Upton Sinclair quote "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it."

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1293 on: March 24, 2023, 09:27:15 AM »
what even is t-shirt folding these days?

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1294 on: March 24, 2023, 09:58:18 AM »





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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1295 on: March 24, 2023, 10:22:02 AM »
I thought BOS would be down for that hot take as a corpo parody brand. I guess they take themselves pretty seriously after all lmfao

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1296 on: March 24, 2023, 10:26:40 AM »
i think using "bernie sanders" as an insult says a lot more about kelly bird than he thinks it does

Really...

What way are Bernie and Mr. Friedman similar? Hmm...

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1297 on: March 24, 2023, 10:56:51 AM »
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i think using "bernie sanders" as an insult says a lot more about kelly bird than he thinks it does
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Really...

What way are Bernie and Mr. Friedman similar? Hmm...

noeliberal communism ?  Tax billionaires?

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1298 on: March 24, 2023, 10:58:26 AM »
no one could capture the pure essence of Fugazi better. Don't care how off the wall the interview was. 

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1299 on: March 24, 2023, 11:08:23 AM »
Crikey, those Boys of Summer takes are pretty bad.

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1300 on: March 24, 2023, 11:09:43 AM »
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i think using "bernie sanders" as an insult says a lot more about kelly bird than he thinks it does
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Really...

What way are Bernie and Mr. Friedman similar? Hmm...
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noeliberal communism ?  Tax billionaires?


Nah, that's not it. Those two are mutually exclusive by definition

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1301 on: March 24, 2023, 12:05:19 PM »
i think using "bernie sanders" as an insult says a lot more about kelly bird than he thinks it does

Whoa, that's Kelly Bird? Upton Sinclair quote working overtime here.

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1302 on: March 24, 2023, 12:44:13 PM »
Barbara Kruger's take when Supreme sued another brand for stealing their logo, which Supreme stole from Kruger:

ďWhat a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers,Ē Kruger told Complex, when asked for her response to the lawsuit. ďI make my work about this kind of sadly foolish farce. Iím waiting for all of them to sue me for copyright infringement.Ē

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/barbara-krugers-supreme-performance

I think it's funny these industry heads are calling GEF a narcissist while being self-centered enough to be offended by his comments because they think that we was talking specifically about them. 

Kruger's comment could apply to this situation as well. It makes for good entertainment, though.

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1303 on: March 24, 2023, 01:48:42 PM »
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Can you give a timestamp of when he starts talking about Supreme and Gonz?
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at about 1:09:00
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56 mins on the video
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Damn that was a crazy, had to type it out.
"Because a lot of people don't fucking give a fuck. You see people these other photographers, some people you mentioned tonight, people work for the corporations and shit. That fucking suck. These people fucking commodify skateboarding, they destroy what we built. But I was one of the people that helped build some of this shit and you got this fucking shit ass brand that fucking boutiquified skateboarding. What you do? You fucking fold shirts you assholes. Fuck you. It's for real. And you know, people go out and buy this fucking brand when they steal all their credibility from our activity. Or even worse from celebrities. They put celebrities in their shirts and shit like that. I don't like to mention this scumbag brand by name. But you know..people work for them..you fuckin' ride for them..you're a fucking chump. You're a sucker, you don't know nothing about integrity. You don't know anything about keeping it real. I understand you have to make a living. But you have to find another way, because you're supporting the fucking devil. You're supporting some shit. People are stealing from our culture. Ohhh you're gonna build a ramp or fucking little shit. That's fucking penny's compared to what they get off those kids waiting in line like fucking suckers. Buying stupid shit. so they can fucking re-sell or whatever. They're creating little baby capitalist. It's all about money and you're fucking falling into that trap. That shit ass trap of fucking commodifying a culture that's so amazing so great and you're a fucking sucker. Sorry guys... "
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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1304 on: March 24, 2023, 01:52:12 PM »
i think using "bernie sanders" as an insult says a lot more about kelly bird than he thinks it does

Well said

Also if the Sketch Hitchcock guy on here is Skitch - you are a legend!

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1305 on: March 24, 2023, 02:09:24 PM »
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i think using "bernie sanders" as an insult says a lot more about kelly bird than he thinks it does
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Well said

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1306 on: March 24, 2023, 02:24:17 PM »
i'm commenting in here although i didn't watch any of that, nor have i actually ever really watched the nine club, but nonetheless and without a doubt, GEF > Supreme

and it must be said, really important, especially evolved people wield terms like "normalize"--especially when being clever on social media, where it is most important--and they should definitely be taken seriously.






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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1307 on: March 24, 2023, 02:25:10 PM »
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GEF is basically the Forrest Gump of the skateboarding, rap and punk world of the 70's and 80's. The dude seemed to be everywhere all at once. Some of his opinions (especially of himself) are a bit over the top, but I also think that's part of his schtick. Take that part or leave it, but there's no denying his iconic photography. Anyone commenting "who" should do themselves a favor and look it up.
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True. Like him or not, he definitely is responsible for some of the most iconic album covers. He may have more in his portfolio than anyone else.
Here are just a few:







I love when people have such hot takes on what it means to sell out or simply what's cool and what's not cool.

The dude hates Supreme and other corporate stuff because "some people you mentioned tonight, people work for the corporations and shit. That fucking suck. These people fucking commodify skateboarding, they destroy what we built."

The dude is also the same dude who has done a lot corporate work for bands:


Ice T - Rhyme Pays (Sire Records)
Public Enemy - Yo! Bum Rush the Show (Def Jam, Columbia Records)
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head (Grand Royal, Capitol Records)
Slick Rick - The Great Adventures of Slick Rick (Def Jam, Columbia Records)
King T - Act a Fool (Capitol Records)

But yeah he's still cool, even though he's an absolute hypocrite

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1308 on: March 24, 2023, 02:36:04 PM »
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GEF is basically the Forrest Gump of the skateboarding, rap and punk world of the 70's and 80's. The dude seemed to be everywhere all at once. Some of his opinions (especially of himself) are a bit over the top, but I also think that's part of his schtick. Take that part or leave it, but there's no denying his iconic photography. Anyone commenting "who" should do themselves a favor and look it up.
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True. Like him or not, he definitely is responsible for some of the most iconic album covers. He may have more in his portfolio than anyone else.
Here are just a few:






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I love when people have such hot takes on what it means to sell out or simply what's cool and what's not cool.

The dude hates Supreme and other corporate stuff because "some people you mentioned tonight, people work for the corporations and shit. That fucking suck. These people fucking commodify skateboarding, they destroy what we built."

The dude is also the same dude who has done a lot corporate work for bands:


Ice T - Rhyme Pays (Sire Records)
Public Enemy - Yo! Bum Rush the Show (Def Jam, Columbia Records)
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head (Grand Royal, Capitol Records)
Slick Rick - The Great Adventures of Slick Rick (Def Jam, Columbia Records)
King T - Act a Fool (Capitol Records)

But yeah he's still cool, even though he's an absolute hypocrite




nah, but seriously, +1 for the bolded letters alone...compelling layout

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1309 on: March 24, 2023, 03:39:48 PM »

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1310 on: March 24, 2023, 04:02:19 PM »
Boys of Summer confirmed nuts in Supreme vice.

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1311 on: March 24, 2023, 04:22:13 PM »
All jokes aside, clearly GEF was criticising the  neo-liberal hyper-capitalistic nature of Supreme, not skateshop t shirt folders. Supreme are owned by a billion dollar venture capital group, who use the image of skateboarding to legitimise themselves in order to justify selling $80 t shirts and thousand dollar jackets. Tyshawn said it himself, he had to beg supreme to pay their team riders. They donít care about skateboarders, they care about profits. A whole lot of taking, not a lot of giving. Atiba is sour because supreme is paying him money to take photos and give him free clothing. Is he defending an employer for doing the most basic thing ie paying him a wage to do his job?

Going to battle for billion dollar corporationsÖ corny.

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1312 on: March 24, 2023, 04:29:02 PM »
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GEF is basically the Forrest Gump of the skateboarding, rap and punk world of the 70's and 80's. The dude seemed to be everywhere all at once. Some of his opinions (especially of himself) are a bit over the top, but I also think that's part of his schtick. Take that part or leave it, but there's no denying his iconic photography. Anyone commenting "who" should do themselves a favor and look it up.
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True. Like him or not, he definitely is responsible for some of the most iconic album covers. He may have more in his portfolio than anyone else.
Here are just a few:






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I love when people have such hot takes on what it means to sell out or simply what's cool and what's not cool.

The dude hates Supreme and other corporate stuff because "some people you mentioned tonight, people work for the corporations and shit. That fucking suck. These people fucking commodify skateboarding, they destroy what we built."

The dude is also the same dude who has done a lot corporate work for bands:


Ice T - Rhyme Pays (Sire Records)
Public Enemy - Yo! Bum Rush the Show (Def Jam, Columbia Records)
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head (Grand Royal, Capitol Records)
Slick Rick - The Great Adventures of Slick Rick (Def Jam, Columbia Records)
King T - Act a Fool (Capitol Records)

But yeah he's still cool, even though he's an absolute hypocrite


"Corporate work for the bands"? Dude was friends with these people and did not charge anything up front. He took the photos because he wanted to and got paid way later. The shoots were not done in any kind of corporate setting/terms. How is that corporate? And why should he not be paid for his work on the cover of extremely iconic albums.


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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1313 on: March 24, 2023, 04:34:58 PM »
dude was wearing adidas during the interview lol

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1314 on: March 24, 2023, 07:29:00 PM »
dude was wearing adidas during the interview lol

Mr. Fuckin integrity himself in the flesh.

fuck supreme and fuck hypocrites.

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1315 on: March 24, 2023, 07:37:27 PM »
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GEF is basically the Forrest Gump of the skateboarding, rap and punk world of the 70's and 80's. The dude seemed to be everywhere all at once. Some of his opinions (especially of himself) are a bit over the top, but I also think that's part of his schtick. Take that part or leave it, but there's no denying his iconic photography. Anyone commenting "who" should do themselves a favor and look it up.
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True. Like him or not, he definitely is responsible for some of the most iconic album covers. He may have more in his portfolio than anyone else.
Here are just a few:






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I love when people have such hot takes on what it means to sell out or simply what's cool and what's not cool.

The dude hates Supreme and other corporate stuff because "some people you mentioned tonight, people work for the corporations and shit. That fucking suck. These people fucking commodify skateboarding, they destroy what we built."

The dude is also the same dude who has done a lot corporate work for bands:


Ice T - Rhyme Pays (Sire Records)
Public Enemy - Yo! Bum Rush the Show (Def Jam, Columbia Records)
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head (Grand Royal, Capitol Records)
Slick Rick - The Great Adventures of Slick Rick (Def Jam, Columbia Records)
King T - Act a Fool (Capitol Records)

But yeah he's still cool, even though he's an absolute hypocrite

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"Corporate work for the bands"? Dude was friends with these people and did not charge anything up front. He took the photos because he wanted to and got paid way later. The shoots were not done in any kind of corporate setting/terms. How is that corporate? And why should he not be paid for his work on the cover of extremely iconic albums.

if you donít understand how giving your photos to a media monopoly is selling to a corporation this conversation might be a little out of your depth

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1316 on: March 24, 2023, 07:51:58 PM »
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GEF is basically the Forrest Gump of the skateboarding, rap and punk world of the 70's and 80's. The dude seemed to be everywhere all at once. Some of his opinions (especially of himself) are a bit over the top, but I also think that's part of his schtick. Take that part or leave it, but there's no denying his iconic photography. Anyone commenting "who" should do themselves a favor and look it up.
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True. Like him or not, he definitely is responsible for some of the most iconic album covers. He may have more in his portfolio than anyone else.
Here are just a few:






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I love when people have such hot takes on what it means to sell out or simply what's cool and what's not cool.

The dude hates Supreme and other corporate stuff because "some people you mentioned tonight, people work for the corporations and shit. That fucking suck. These people fucking commodify skateboarding, they destroy what we built."

The dude is also the same dude who has done a lot corporate work for bands:


Ice T - Rhyme Pays (Sire Records)
Public Enemy - Yo! Bum Rush the Show (Def Jam, Columbia Records)
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head (Grand Royal, Capitol Records)
Slick Rick - The Great Adventures of Slick Rick (Def Jam, Columbia Records)
King T - Act a Fool (Capitol Records)

But yeah he's still cool, even though he's an absolute hypocrite

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"Corporate work for the bands"? Dude was friends with these people and did not charge anything up front. He took the photos because he wanted to and got paid way later. The shoots were not done in any kind of corporate setting/terms. How is that corporate? And why should he not be paid for his work on the cover of extremely iconic albums.
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if you donít understand how giving your photos to a media monopoly is selling to a corporation this conversation might be a little out of your depth

Lol how is it that you chose your username so perfectly?

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1317 on: March 24, 2023, 08:42:09 PM »
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GEF is basically the Forrest Gump of the skateboarding, rap and punk world of the 70's and 80's. The dude seemed to be everywhere all at once. Some of his opinions (especially of himself) are a bit over the top, but I also think that's part of his schtick. Take that part or leave it, but there's no denying his iconic photography. Anyone commenting "who" should do themselves a favor and look it up.
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True. Like him or not, he definitely is responsible for some of the most iconic album covers. He may have more in his portfolio than anyone else.
Here are just a few:






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I love when people have such hot takes on what it means to sell out or simply what's cool and what's not cool.

The dude hates Supreme and other corporate stuff because "some people you mentioned tonight, people work for the corporations and shit. That fucking suck. These people fucking commodify skateboarding, they destroy what we built."

The dude is also the same dude who has done a lot corporate work for bands:


Ice T - Rhyme Pays (Sire Records)
Public Enemy - Yo! Bum Rush the Show (Def Jam, Columbia Records)
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head (Grand Royal, Capitol Records)
Slick Rick - The Great Adventures of Slick Rick (Def Jam, Columbia Records)
King T - Act a Fool (Capitol Records)

But yeah he's still cool, even though he's an absolute hypocrite

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"Corporate work for the bands"? Dude was friends with these people and did not charge anything up front. He took the photos because he wanted to and got paid way later. The shoots were not done in any kind of corporate setting/terms. How is that corporate? And why should he not be paid for his work on the cover of extremely iconic albums.
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if you donít understand how giving your photos to a media monopoly is selling to a corporation this conversation might be a little out of your depth
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Lol how is it that you chose your username so perfectly?

gonna double down because i donít like you - how is it you masquerade as mr. hardcore guy and donít know about you are beneath me? SDF literally toured with MLIW

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1318 on: March 24, 2023, 08:49:06 PM »
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GEF is basically the Forrest Gump of the skateboarding, rap and punk world of the 70's and 80's. The dude seemed to be everywhere all at once. Some of his opinions (especially of himself) are a bit over the top, but I also think that's part of his schtick. Take that part or leave it, but there's no denying his iconic photography. Anyone commenting "who" should do themselves a favor and look it up.
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True. Like him or not, he definitely is responsible for some of the most iconic album covers. He may have more in his portfolio than anyone else.
Here are just a few:






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I love when people have such hot takes on what it means to sell out or simply what's cool and what's not cool.

The dude hates Supreme and other corporate stuff because "some people you mentioned tonight, people work for the corporations and shit. That fucking suck. These people fucking commodify skateboarding, they destroy what we built."

The dude is also the same dude who has done a lot corporate work for bands:


Ice T - Rhyme Pays (Sire Records)
Public Enemy - Yo! Bum Rush the Show (Def Jam, Columbia Records)
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head (Grand Royal, Capitol Records)
Slick Rick - The Great Adventures of Slick Rick (Def Jam, Columbia Records)
King T - Act a Fool (Capitol Records)

But yeah he's still cool, even though he's an absolute hypocrite

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"Corporate work for the bands"? Dude was friends with these people and did not charge anything up front. He took the photos because he wanted to and got paid way later. The shoots were not done in any kind of corporate setting/terms. How is that corporate? And why should he not be paid for his work on the cover of extremely iconic albums.
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if you donít understand how giving your photos to a media monopoly is selling to a corporation this conversation might be a little out of your depth


I was also very confused by KGBís statement.

KGB do you not see an equivalence in this proposition?

Whether GEF used his art on his own terms or not, he still provided his photographs to enrich a corporation. Itís no secret that the music industry is one of the biggest corporate shills in terms of business enterprises. You think Capitol Records cares about the integrity of the artist if the bottom line isnít being met.


Iím also not saying that signing to a big corporate record label is bad. Itís hard to be in a band and hell you have to make money off of your art someway to get by comfortably.

But for GEF to be so sour on corporate brands just because be doesnít like them in skateboarding (as he wears Adidas). Is not only downright disingenuous but also super ignorant. Let that ego go and truly look in the mirror.

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Re: Wtf is up with the nine club
« Reply #1319 on: March 24, 2023, 08:59:34 PM »
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GEF is basically the Forrest Gump of the skateboarding, rap and punk world of the 70's and 80's. The dude seemed to be everywhere all at once. Some of his opinions (especially of himself) are a bit over the top, but I also think that's part of his schtick. Take that part or leave it, but there's no denying his iconic photography. Anyone commenting "who" should do themselves a favor and look it up.
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True. Like him or not, he definitely is responsible for some of the most iconic album covers. He may have more in his portfolio than anyone else.
Here are just a few:






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I love when people have such hot takes on what it means to sell out or simply what's cool and what's not cool.

The dude hates Supreme and other corporate stuff because "some people you mentioned tonight, people work for the corporations and shit. That fucking suck. These people fucking commodify skateboarding, they destroy what we built."

The dude is also the same dude who has done a lot corporate work for bands:


Ice T - Rhyme Pays (Sire Records)
Public Enemy - Yo! Bum Rush the Show (Def Jam, Columbia Records)
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head (Grand Royal, Capitol Records)
Slick Rick - The Great Adventures of Slick Rick (Def Jam, Columbia Records)
King T - Act a Fool (Capitol Records)

But yeah he's still cool, even though he's an absolute hypocrite

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"Corporate work for the bands"? Dude was friends with these people and did not charge anything up front. He took the photos because he wanted to and got paid way later. The shoots were not done in any kind of corporate setting/terms. How is that corporate? And why should he not be paid for his work on the cover of extremely iconic albums.
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if you donít understand how giving your photos to a media monopoly is selling to a corporation this conversation might be a little out of your depth
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I was also very confused by KGBís statement.

KGB do you not see an equivalence in this proposition?

Whether GEF used his art on his own terms or not, he still provided his photographs to enrich a corporation. Itís no secret that the music industry is one of the biggest corporate shills in terms of business enterprises. You think Capitol Records cares about the integrity of the artist if the bottom line isnít being met.


Iím also not saying that signing to a big corporate record label is bad. Itís hard to be in a band and hell you have to make money off of your art someway to get by comfortably.

But for GEF to be so sour on corporate brands just because be doesnít like them in skateboarding (as he wears Adidas). Is not only downright disingenuous but also super ignorant. Let that ego go and truly look in the mirror.

gonna add a fun wrinkle to this: i take big corpo money to play music so this old fool and i have the same sins. one of us just fronts like weíre above folks while ignoring it