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Re: Brand Mistakes
« Reply #90 on: April 29, 2020, 10:54:05 PM »
Baker should give twuan another chance. What if one day they just completely replaced Zach Allen w twuan and pretended like nothing happened. They even photoshop twuan over Zach in all the recent group photos

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« Reply #91 on: April 29, 2020, 11:09:52 PM »
Baker should give twuan another chance. What if one day they just completely replaced Zach Allen w twuan and pretended like nothing happened. They even photoshop twuan over Zach in all the recent group photos

Thank you.

Finally a sensible suggestion.

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Re: Brand Mistakes
« Reply #92 on: April 30, 2020, 07:02:46 AM »

how is Frankie spears pro ? not any of the pabich bros


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« Reply #93 on: April 30, 2020, 08:40:12 AM »
Pizza is a giant fucking mistake

It's where Mangos go to die. What a fucking waste. That kid kills in my opinion.

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Re: Brand Mistakes
« Reply #94 on: April 30, 2020, 08:55:03 AM »
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Seeing as how someone was talking about Numbers - let's talk about how many board companies come out without an identity. No definable visual art-direction or whatever is there is fucking bland, no cohesion to their team, no "vibe" to their video/ad output.I honestly forget Numbers even exists all the time, and I don't know who rides for them besides Koston.

There's definitely other examples of this but the only other one I can think of is SOVRN. Plan B is almost like that but we all know they only exist to extract capital from the suburban moms of skater kids who shop at Zumiez. Primitive is sort of like that but their team is memorable and their art direction has gotten more memorable (I still don't like it, but I definitely remember it)
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On one end I agree, on the other end you can sell a shitload of Vegeta decks without having to deal with the mental gymnastics of brand synergy.

I feel like Primitive has a decent enough strategy: release a bunch of collaborations that they know will sell in order to support the company and team as a whole, while also releasing graphics that are more in line with what skaters and the pros would actually buy / be stoked to skate.

I’d say that I’m actually about 50/50 on the graphics I like from Primitive, which is actually a decent ration in my opinion based on just how many graphics they put out.

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Re: Brand Mistakes
« Reply #95 on: May 01, 2020, 11:45:48 AM »
Just about every brand out there is fucking up big time by not capitalizing on this massive Amapiano movement that is sweeping the globe

Never even heard of this

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Re: Brand Mistakes
« Reply #96 on: May 01, 2020, 12:13:38 PM »
Deawon and Torey starting Thank You Skateboarding was a mistake.
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Re: Brand Mistakes
« Reply #97 on: May 01, 2020, 09:05:15 PM »
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Pizza is a giant fucking mistake
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It's where Mangos go to die. What a fucking waste. That kid kills in my opinion.
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« Reply #98 on: May 01, 2020, 10:55:47 PM »
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Just about every brand out there is fucking up big time by not capitalizing on this massive Amapiano movement that is sweeping the globe
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Never even heard of this
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« Reply #99 on: May 01, 2020, 11:06:15 PM »
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Seeing as how someone was talking about Numbers - let's talk about how many board companies come out without an identity. No definable visual art-direction or whatever is there is fucking bland, no cohesion to their team, no "vibe" to their video/ad output.I honestly forget Numbers even exists all the time, and I don't know who rides for them besides Koston.

There's definitely other examples of this but the only other one I can think of is SOVRN. Plan B is almost like that but we all know they only exist to extract capital from the suburban moms of skater kids who shop at Zumiez. Primitive is sort of like that but their team is memorable and their art direction has gotten more memorable (I still don't like it, but I definitely remember it)
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On one end I agree, on the other end you can sell a shitload of Vegeta decks without having to deal with the mental gymnastics of brand synergy.
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I feel like Primitive has a decent enough strategy: release a bunch of collaborations that they know will sell in order to support the company and team as a whole, while also releasing graphics that are more in line with what skaters and the pros would actually buy / be stoked to skate.

I’d say that I’m actually about 50/50 on the graphics I like from Primitive, which is actually a decent ration in my opinion based on just how many graphics they put out.
My only issue with Primitive, is I feel they were the first brand with legitimate pros to really push direct to consumer sales through the internet (If I remember correctly, there initial drops were almost entirely online). I don't think that's a mistake business-wise, although I do find it a bit frustrating considering how much don't buy shop boards is pushed, so you can support the pros and industry, but at the same time, they are actively attempting to cut out the middle-men who help keep local scenes vibrant.

Although, find a lot of the "buy core" arguments from companies that are now failing pretty hypocritical when they made most of their money when they were big off large shoe orders to places like Zumiez.

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« Reply #100 on: May 01, 2020, 11:39:02 PM »
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Seeing as how someone was talking about Numbers - let's talk about how many board companies come out without an identity. No definable visual art-direction or whatever is there is fucking bland, no cohesion to their team, no "vibe" to their video/ad output.I honestly forget Numbers even exists all the time, and I don't know who rides for them besides Koston.

There's definitely other examples of this but the only other one I can think of is SOVRN. Plan B is almost like that but we all know they only exist to extract capital from the suburban moms of skater kids who shop at Zumiez. Primitive is sort of like that but their team is memorable and their art direction has gotten more memorable (I still don't like it, but I definitely remember it)
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On one end I agree, on the other end you can sell a shitload of Vegeta decks without having to deal with the mental gymnastics of brand synergy.
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I feel like Primitive has a decent enough strategy: release a bunch of collaborations that they know will sell in order to support the company and team as a whole, while also releasing graphics that are more in line with what skaters and the pros would actually buy / be stoked to skate.

I’d say that I’m actually about 50/50 on the graphics I like from Primitive, which is actually a decent ration in my opinion based on just how many graphics they put out.
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My only issue with Primitive, is I feel they were the first brand with legitimate pros to really push direct to consumer sales through the internet (If I remember correctly, there initial drops were almost entirely online). I don't think that's a mistake business-wise, although I do find it a bit frustrating considering how much don't buy shop boards is pushed, so you can support the pros and industry, but at the same time, they are actively attempting to cut out the middle-men who help keep local scenes vibrant.

Although, find a lot of the "buy core" arguments from companies that are now failing pretty hypocritical when they made most of their money when they were big off large shoe orders to places like Zumiez.

They also rolled out that subscription service shortly after launching. Something like $75 for a board, wheels, shirt, and stickers every month. I’ve never been sold on any product based subscription service. No one needs that much shit. You could talk me into the new board each month, but what kid needs 12 sets of Primitive wheels in a year?




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Re: Brand Mistakes
« Reply #101 on: May 02, 2020, 05:07:45 AM »
New Balance entering skateboarding.

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Re: Brand Mistakes
« Reply #102 on: May 03, 2020, 01:17:36 PM »
Anyone else feel like the flip side of putting Louie on FA is he makes half of the team look pretty mediocre?

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Re: Brand Mistakes
« Reply #103 on: May 04, 2020, 03:53:53 AM »
Anyone else feel like the flip side of putting Louie on FA is he makes half of the team look pretty mediocre?

This has surely backfired on them.
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« Reply #104 on: May 04, 2020, 05:15:02 AM »
Anyone else feel like the flip side of putting Louie on FA is he makes half of the team look pretty mediocre?

Absolutely. In what world are Kadow and Louie on the same team?

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« Reply #105 on: May 04, 2020, 05:29:34 AM »
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Anyone else feel like the flip side of putting Louie on FA is he makes half of the team look pretty mediocre?
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Absolutely. In what world are Kadow and Louie on the same team?


They're not.

Yes, putting on the best skateboarder in the world who had every single team clamouring for his services was a mistake.

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Re: Brand Mistakes
« Reply #106 on: May 04, 2020, 05:34:17 AM »
Any company sponsoring Andy Roy
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Re: Brand Mistakes
« Reply #107 on: May 04, 2020, 05:39:04 AM »
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Anyone else feel like the flip side of putting Louie on FA is he makes half of the team look pretty mediocre?
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Absolutely. In what world are Kadow and Louie on the same team?
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They're not.

Yes, putting on the best skateboarder in the world who had every single team clamouring for his services was a mistake.

Close enough. Louie could have done better.

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Re: Brand Mistakes
« Reply #108 on: May 04, 2020, 05:41:50 AM »
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Anyone else feel like the flip side of putting Louie on FA is he makes half of the team look pretty mediocre?
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Absolutely. In what world are Kadow and Louie on the same team?
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They're not.

Yes, putting on the best skateboarder in the world who had every single team clamouring for his services was a mistake.
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Close enough. Louie could have done better.

Done better, how? He is skating for a company with guys he grew up skating with. It doesn't get any better than that.

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« Reply #109 on: May 04, 2020, 08:37:25 AM »
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Anyone else feel like the flip side of putting Louie on FA is he makes half of the team look pretty mediocre?
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Absolutely. In what world are Kadow and Louie on the same team?
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They're not.

Yes, putting on the best skateboarder in the world who had every single team clamouring for his services was a mistake.
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Close enough. Louie could have done better.
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Done better, how? He is skating for a company with guys he grew up skating with. It doesn't get any better than that.

Louie had to decide between 100 brands who were all going to pay him nothing, because board brands are broke as fuck and aren’t cutting checks like they were even five years ago. Why not choose the artsy one with your friends, the brand that’s crossing over into fashion and will get you past the velvet rope at elite New York and LA parties?

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« Reply #110 on: May 04, 2020, 08:45:34 AM »
Deawon and Torey starting Thank You Skateboarding was a mistake.

Daewon has a pretty long history of failed brands, for whatever that’s worth. But basically anyone, even two top pros, trying to get into making skateboard decks now is a fool’s errand. The growth of board brands is probably outperforming the growth of skateboarding in general

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« Reply #111 on: May 04, 2020, 08:49:45 AM »
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Anyone else feel like the flip side of putting Louie on FA is he makes half of the team look pretty mediocre?
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Absolutely. In what world are Kadow and Louie on the same team?
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They're not.

Yes, putting on the best skateboarder in the world who had every single team clamouring for his services was a mistake.

I’m not saying it was a mistake. That’s why I phrased my question the way I did. You obviously put Louie on your team even if it makes Sean Pablo look even more limited in ability. Just wanted to spark some conversation.

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« Reply #112 on: May 04, 2020, 08:55:57 AM »
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Anyone else feel like the flip side of putting Louie on FA is he makes half of the team look pretty mediocre?
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Absolutely. In what world are Kadow and Louie on the same team?
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They're not.

Yes, putting on the best skateboarder in the world who had every single team clamouring for his services was a mistake.
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Close enough. Louie could have done better.
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Done better, how? He is skating for a company with guys he grew up skating with. It doesn't get any better than that.
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Louie had to decide between 100 brands who were all going to pay him nothing, because board brands are broke as fuck and aren’t cutting checks like they were even five years ago. Why not choose the artsy one with your friends, the brand that’s crossing over into fashion and will get you past the velvet rope at elite New York and LA parties?

Should he have left Flip for some hipster shit like welcome or polar where he would get no shine, or another mall brand like element or primitive? Real/Anti-Hero? Remvive? Where would have been preferable to FA 

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« Reply #113 on: May 04, 2020, 08:58:30 AM »
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Anyone else feel like the flip side of putting Louie on FA is he makes half of the team look pretty mediocre?
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Absolutely. In what world are Kadow and Louie on the same team?
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They're not.

Yes, putting on the best skateboarder in the world who had every single team clamouring for his services was a mistake.
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Close enough. Louie could have done better.
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Done better, how? He is skating for a company with guys he grew up skating with. It doesn't get any better than that.
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Louie had to decide between 100 brands who were all going to pay him nothing, because board brands are broke as fuck and aren’t cutting checks like they were even five years ago. Why not choose the artsy one with your friends, the brand that’s crossing over into fashion and will get you past the velvet rope at elite New York and LA parties?
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Should he have left Flip for some hipster shit like welcome or polar where he would get no shine, or another mall brand like element or primitive? Real/Anti-Hero? Remvive? Where would have been preferable to FA

That’s another good point - why not join a brand where you will be their unquestioned top pro?

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Re: Brand Mistakes
« Reply #114 on: May 04, 2020, 09:02:21 AM »
Exactly, why go on a team busy to promote Swan Pablo, even if that gets you laid? 

Even if you grew up with them.
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« Reply #115 on: May 04, 2020, 09:13:15 AM »
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Anyone else feel like the flip side of putting Louie on FA is he makes half of the team look pretty mediocre?
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Absolutely. In what world are Kadow and Louie on the same team?
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They're not.

Yes, putting on the best skateboarder in the world who had every single team clamouring for his services was a mistake.
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Close enough. Louie could have done better.
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Done better, how? He is skating for a company with guys he grew up skating with. It doesn't get any better than that.
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Louie had to decide between 100 brands who were all going to pay him nothing, because board brands are broke as fuck and aren’t cutting checks like they were even five years ago. Why not choose the artsy one with your friends, the brand that’s crossing over into fashion and will get you past the velvet rope at elite New York and LA parties?
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Should he have left Flip for some hipster shit like welcome or polar where he would get no shine, or another mall brand like element or primitive? Real/Anti-Hero? Remvive? Where would have been preferable to FA
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That’s another good point - why not join a brand where you will be their unquestioned top pro?

Any DLX brand would have been better than the FA camp. I get wanting a check. But I Never saw him on a team with kooky fashion try hards and wanna be rappers. I'm not saying that there isn't talent over there but still.

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Re: Brand Mistakes
« Reply #116 on: May 04, 2020, 03:08:36 PM »
Mikey Alfred looks more like a golfer than someone who would be involved with skating

It's crazy how many people back Illegal Civ that shit is mad fuckin goofy

illegal civ kid frontin in an interview that he was not all that impressed with Spike Jonze and shit what a kooked out person
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« Reply #117 on: May 04, 2020, 04:42:10 PM »
Chocolate not adding Jordan trahan yet. They need more east coast guys on their team.
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« Reply #118 on: May 04, 2020, 04:57:50 PM »
Huf stopping shoes. Not sure if they switched up factories on the last run but whatever manufacturer made the last batch of hupper 2 hi nailed it

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Re: Brand Mistakes
« Reply #119 on: May 04, 2020, 07:22:20 PM »
Tyson Peterson is a mistake