@IusedToSkateMore, damn dude, that sucks, but does really highlight how much of a crapshoot getting Covid is. You sound like you’ve kept yourself in good shape and you were seriously messed up by it. My wife and I hadn’t really exercised from March of 2020 through January of 2021 when we got it. For us it was like bad a cold where we felt exhausted and we lost smell for a couple weeks.
The point here is it doesn’t matter what sort of condition you’re in, it could be serious and put you in the hospital or it could be mild. You have no idea what will happen based on how heathy you are as that’s really not a factor that matters.
Thanks for sharing that man, I’m hoping it convinces a few people to take the vaccine so they won’t have a risk of spreading the virus or contracting it and possibly having serious side effects, which are more prevalent than the serious side effects with the vaccine.
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one of you great pals made a post with i believe a link to an article explaining what the term “long term” effects really means . would be grateful to anyone that can dig that up as it was one of the best posts regarding this subject ive come across
please help!
Could you mean this? Only thing I could find when I searched “long term”, and they’re right. The only reason for continuing to monitor after the trials is to see if the efficacy of the vaccine wears off, not if problems randomly appear later on.
The only way a problem could arise from something years down the road is if you continue to have repeated exposure, like the sun causing skin cancer after years. If you were exposed to the sun once and then never saw sunlight for the rest of your life, you wouldn’t spontaneously develop skin cancer down the road.
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You got the definition of long term effects wrong. (As many do)
Long term effects don‘t occure after 20 years. They occure right after vaccination and persist for a long time.
So far no long term effects.
yes that was the quote i was remembering, thanks!
@pica can you either explain that further or link an article that explains it . thx!
Sweet, glad I could help!
As far as the definition, here are some links to information I’ve found both through my own looking and through my wife answering my questions on the topic; she’s a biochemist so she knows way more about this stuff than I’d ever care to learn on my own.
This link has the actual definition of long term side effect from the NIH, which matches what pica was saying.This link has a more in depth explanation from Ohio State University of how we know there won’t be any effects that suddenly show up months or years after you get the vaccine.Tl:dr - Historically vaccines cause side effects within 8 weeks maximum. mRNA and adenovector (J&J) vaccines are not new and have been studied for decades; we understand the mechanism of how they work very well. Basically the benefits outweigh the risks.
This link has another description from the University of Alabama of the same topicTl:dr - The mRNA vaccines are more effective than other vaccines we’ve produced. The risk of long term effects is low because you take once and it leaves your system within weeks; for the mRNA vaccines it leaves your body within days. It also reiterates that side effects of vaccines show up within weeks, if at all. Clinical trials on the Covid vaccines showed minor side effects (sore arm, etc.) that lasted at most days. More serious side effects showed up after giving the vaccine to millions, which has been true for every new vaccine, but the incident rate is very low and the effects are less serious and less prevalent than the side effects of the virus itself.
Also, lawsuits over medication that has caused adverse effects are medications people would take daily and in higher doses. It’s the repeated exposure over time that causes problems down the line. There has never been a case documented of a non-living compound entering the body one time and causing an issue years down the road. Things that are living/able to reproduce on their own, such as viruses, parasites, cancer, etc. have caused issues months or years down the road because they don’t cause a visible issue until they have reproduced a certain amount. Non-living compounds like vaccines and medicine are incapable of reproducing, and thus are incapable of causing issues years after a single exposure.
I couldn’t find anything defining “long term side effects” within the actual clinical trial results, and I think that’s largely because it’s expected that the definition is understood. That’s one issue with scholarly articles and clinical results, they aren’t as accessible to laymen as they should be.
Anyway, I hope this helped clear up some stuff. I try to communicate stuff well but sometimes I subconsciously assume things I know are common knowledge, so if you need any clarification just let me know.
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