Covid vaccine

[Frank]

Meanwhile the NBA is bringing back unvaccinated Kyrie Irving to fill in part time for vaccinated players that have Covid. This just keeps getting more interestingbraindead.

[dofrenzy]

Just went to find the name of the contributor who posted about N95/KN95 masks but quickly remembered one of the easiest names to remember here, buttfart rapedick!  I’ve been bandana donning through 99% of this pandemic but I really appreciated the genuine concern and experience.  Props and respect.

Just sharing my experience here:  I got a part-time job with one of the major package delivery/distribution companies in early November.  At no time has the company mentioned masks, not admins or managers or workers.  (Edit: zero talk of vaccines also) One coworker wears a mask always, a couple others wear masks on their chins.  Otherwise, I frequently find myself loading trailers with 2 or 3 other people working shoulder to shoulder in a confined space, breathing heavy and working hard at loading trucks.

Overall we seem to be, as a society and maybe as a planet, experiencing pandemic fatigue as some people understandably demonstrate here.  I did, at least for a moment, take the N95 mask alert to heart, but continue to use my skull or skull and crossbones imprinted bandanas.  I dunno, maybe if the alert came from username “goodhealth selfcare“ I would have taken it more to heart.  LOL, jk for real, buttfart rapedick is among my favorite usernames here I am just fuckin’ with him and trying to add some levity.

[pugmaster]

For whatever reason, Orange County is a bastion for far-right conservatism, which I did not expect to encounter even though I am a native Southern Californian. I have had my issues with the two-party system and continue to, which can be attributed to how information is disseminated in the media and how political posturing occurs, and all sorts of other stuff.

Nevertheless, what makes me the angriest is the lack of selflessness and common decency demonstrated by some people in the general public.

Some people have family members with immune-compromised systems. They cannot afford to have all food shipped/delivered to their family. So, they have to go out to stores. People choose to go out mask-less and create all sorts of unnecessary worry for their fellow humans just to make a “statement.”

It is so effortless to wear a mask, yet people refuse to do so. It makes me want to ask these people, “Is there ANYTHING LESS THAT YOU COULD POSSIBLY DO? COULD YOU POSSIBLY DO LESS THAN PUT A MASK ON?”

The answer is yes.

I am fully confident that if, for whatever reason, we learned that if citizens would only think positive thoughts, it would eradicate COVID, a substantial percentage of people would STILL bitch and refuse to do so.

Because: “IT’S MY RIGHT!”

I wish I had made T-shirts at the beginning of the pandemic. Probably would have made a fortune. Here are some of my ideas:

NOT WEARING A MASK DOESN’T MAKE YOU A PATRIOT; IT MAKES YOU AN ASSHOLE.

PEOPLE WHO DON’T WEAR MASKS ARE SELFISH ASSHOLES.

PEOPLE WHO DON’T WEAR MASKS IN PUBLIC ARE PEDOPHILES.

PEOPLE WHO DON’T WEAR MASKS ARE SELFISH ASSHOLES & PEDOPHILES THAT SAY THE N-WORD CONSTANTLY.
 

[Bunk Moreland]

Would cop.

[Sativa Lung]

i was wondering what his alternative is when i’m already punching a clock 40 hours a week trying to keep my fuckin life together through all this stupid fucking shit and one half of people thinks covid isn’t real (essentially) and the other half is deciding that in order to “inform” the other half they need to be as insulting and shaming in their language as possible.

do you think i have the space to fucking care if someone’s grandma dies because he comes to my fucking job instead of eating in a restaurant without a mask or any of the other laughable excuses for security theater the government has thrown at us while simultaneously loosening restrictions and telling the states essentially to figure it out themselves

i’m really glad you’ve found something you’re passionate about but unless you’re doing some type of subscription box of your recs im gonna keep doing what they told us to do through the strains with a higher mortality rate than this one and if you have an issue take it up with the federal governments total incompetency from start to fucking finish to care for or protect its citizens
 
also i didn’t read his posts because i don’t fucking care. i’m not obsessing over this shit. this isn’t going to be the last pandemic or mass death event in our lifetimes. i’m vaxxed. ive taken the public health
measures offered to me. they just haven’t offered
much.

Your alternative is to get your head out of your ass and stop ONLY thinking about how this affects you. Do you think every other person in the country with an "essential" job isn't facing the exact same challenges you are? Did you ever stop to consider what it would be like if some careless asshole killed YOUR grandmother, or wife, or daughter in a completely preventable way? You sound like the whiniest, most entitled type of bitch right now.

Its not fucking hard. Wear a mask. An effective one. If my docs can perform literal brain surgery in one I'm sure you can wash dishes just fine in yours.

[Sativa Lung]

For whatever reason, Orange County is a bastion for far-right conservatism, which I did not expect to encounter even though I am a native Southern Californian. I have had my issues with the two-party system and continue to, which can be attributed to how information is disseminated in the media and how political posturing occurs, and all sorts of other stuff.

Nevertheless, what makes me the angriest is the lack of selflessness and common decency demonstrated by some people in the general public.

Some people have family members with immune-compromised systems. They cannot afford to have all food shipped/delivered to their family. So, they have to go out to stores. People choose to go out mask-less and create all sorts of unnecessary worry for their fellow humans just to make a “statement.”

It is so effortless to wear a mask, yet people refuse to do so. It makes me want to ask these people, “Is there ANYTHING LESS THAT YOU COULD POSSIBLY DO? COULD YOU POSSIBLY DO LESS THAN PUT A MASK ON?”

The answer is yes.

I am fully confident that if, for whatever reason, we learned that if citizens would only think positive thoughts, it would eradicate COVID, a substantial percentage of people would STILL bitch and refuse to do so.

Because: “IT’S MY RIGHT!”

I wish I had made T-shirts at the beginning of the pandemic. Probably would have made a fortune. Here are some of my ideas:

NOT WEARING A MASK DOESN’T MAKE YOU A PATRIOT; IT MAKES YOU AN ASSHOLE.

PEOPLE WHO DON’T WEAR MASKS ARE SELFISH ASSHOLES.

PEOPLE WHO DON’T WEAR MASKS IN PUBLIC ARE PEDOPHILES.

PEOPLE WHO DON’T WEAR MASKS ARE SELFISH ASSHOLES & PEDOPHILES THAT SAY THE N-WORD CONSTANTLY.

I mean the last two are basically just doing what they do except pointing the hose the other way and with less jesus, so I don't really think that's better in any way.

It's such a trivial thing and the whole "muh freedom" thing is so dumb. No one is saying you have to wear a mask, they're saying that you have to wear one to participate in society because otherwise you're a danger to others. It's like the kid at daycare who refuses to wear pants because he doesn't like them and starts screaming and throwing toys when you point out he's rubbing his shitty little ass all over the toolbox and giving all the other kids pink eye.


I think at least some (if not a lot) is that people are insecure about their intelligence and want so badly to feel like they know better than those stuffy academic types or that dickhead kid they grew up with who ended up being a doctor. Kind of a dunning-Kruger thing... They're either too stupid or too emotional and massively overestimate how much they actually understand about issues like this.

[dofrenzy]

On a non-mask related subject, My niece, in her 30’s now, has worked very hard over the past few years to earn her nursing degree.  I was super proud when I learned that she graduated nursing school.

Just learned yesterday from my sister that my niece is now unemployable as a nurse because she refuses to get vaccinated.  I honestly have a hard time wrapping my head around it.

I did finally order some KN95 masks though, especially due to the recent conversation here.  Easy to get in black and that’s my jam.  I did some joking earlier but really do appreciate BR’s highlighting of the situation.  Thanks man.

[cky enthusiast]

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i was wondering what his alternative is when i’m already punching a clock 40 hours a week trying to keep my fuckin life together through all this stupid fucking shit and one half of people thinks covid isn’t real (essentially) and the other half is deciding that in order to “inform” the other half they need to be as insulting and shaming in their language as possible.

do you think i have the space to fucking care if someone’s grandma dies because he comes to my fucking job instead of eating in a restaurant without a mask or any of the other laughable excuses for security theater the government has thrown at us while simultaneously loosening restrictions and telling the states essentially to figure it out themselves

i’m really glad you’ve found something you’re passionate about but unless you’re doing some type of subscription box of your recs im gonna keep doing what they told us to do through the strains with a higher mortality rate than this one and if you have an issue take it up with the federal governments total incompetency from start to fucking finish to care for or protect its citizens
 
also i didn’t read his posts because i don’t fucking care. i’m not obsessing over this shit. this isn’t going to be the last pandemic or mass death event in our lifetimes. i’m vaxxed. ive taken the public health
measures offered to me. they just haven’t offered
much.

[close]

Your alternative is to get your head out of your ass and stop ONLY thinking about how this affects you. Do you think every other person in the country with an "essential" job isn't facing the exact same challenges you are? Did you ever stop to consider what it would be like if some careless asshole killed YOUR grandmother, or wife, or daughter in a completely preventable way? You sound like the whiniest, most entitled type of bitch right now.

Its not fucking hard. Wear a mask. An effective one. If my docs can perform literal brain surgery in one I'm sure you can wash dishes just fine in yours.

read the rest of the paragraph you bolded and try again

this time try not shaming an individual for the collective failings of the system

also i don’t wash dishes but kitchen staff i believe had the highest infection rates through the initial pandemic- maybe get off your high horse about that too

to be clear because i don’t think you read things before you go into your “what if it was YOUR grandma” speech, im a proponent of masks. i’m not a proponent of constantly needing to contort myself and spend money and time buying “newer and more effective” masks this late in the game, especially after 2 years of constant exposure

but i think you’re just addicted to shaming others tbh

[Chavo]

An obese conspiracy theorist at work believes that her vaccine caused weight gain.

[Burt Ward]

Would cop.

[S.]

i try to wash my masks. not sure if that actually helps but i can't afford to buy ten masks each week. i try to cop them at work for a five finger discount.

You can microwave them or put them in the oven to disenfect them.

I am a teacher and I have a lot of contact with different people. I wear a regular face mask, you know the one that medical staff uses. I have tried to wear ffp 2 masks, but it becomes difficult to make myself understood. It is pretty important for us that the class can understand what we are saying. I try to open the windows regularly and we test all the students three times a week. I could probably be better with opening windows and telling students to keep a distance, but I honestly try my best. Kids at a certain age are like young dogs, you‘d have to literally tie them down to get them to keep a distance.

[dofrenzy]

An obese conspiracy theorist at work believes that her vaccine caused weight gain.

LOL!  Fucking love this!

[mj23]

An obese conspiracy theorist at work believes that her vaccine caused weight gain.

My vaccine caused me to be swole like The Rock and have a giant pecker. Def recommend it (Pfizer)

[Billy Bitchcakes]

It's like the kid at daycare who refuses to wear pants because he doesn't like them and starts screaming and throwing toys when you point out he's rubbing his shitty little ass all over the toolbox and giving all the other kids pink eye.

Oddly specific

[Fhk]

So billions of shots given, lockdowns, pandemic of the unvaccinated, unpersoning of others, mass hatred, anger, fear, titanic profit, omicron, boosters skirted, pandemic of the vaccinated, record cases, fewer deaths, and where we at?  Pandemic over yet? Or does that happen when everyone gets a mild super infectious variant like omi, achieves proper natural immunity, realizes it's endemic now and that it's okay to exist on the far side fear.

Vaccines did well to prevent severe illness (probably) but the only thing that's going to end the pandemic is covid going through the natural evolution of becoming more infectious less pathogenic (which optimizes it's own survival).  Treatments being allowed to exist (japan/ivemectin=covid nonissue).  And people being over it. 

I cannot wait to hear the arguments against this!

[BALARGUE]

So billions of shots given, lockdowns, pandemic of the unvaccinated, unpersoning of others, mass hatred, anger, fear, titanic profit, omicron, boosters skirted, pandemic of the vaccinated, record cases, fewer deaths, and where we at?  Pandemic over yet? Or does that happen when everyone gets a mild super infectious variant like omi, achieves proper natural immunity, realizes it's endemic now and that it's okay to exist on the far side fear.

Vaccines did well to prevent severe illness (probably) but the only thing that's going to end the pandemic is covid going through the natural evolution of becoming more infectious less pathogenic (which optimizes it's own survival).  Treatments being allowed to exist (japan/ivemectin=covid nonissue).  And people being over it. 

Japan or anywhere else / ivermectin => nope
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2021/12/21/national/ivermectin-japan-covid19-little-evidence/

What's your point ?
An obvious summary with a tiny doubt about what vaccines do ? like preventing millions of deaths and global scale disorganization as a consequence to overloaded medical services

[BALARGUE]

i'm pretty sure people use something for what it actually does, not for what it doesn't do (especially not for what it's not meant to do, like the majority of your list)

Sorry, english not my native language, correcting bad faith takes too much time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandolini%27s_law

[BALARGUE]

or they use it because they feel like it's their duty to protect the weaks (that's what people do in a society).
People dying from COVID is not the main concern though.
it's more about overloaded medical services, you guys always forget about it.
To make it simple, you, crashing your car and needing immediate care, could just die because unvaxxed people take all the beds.

Since the beginning of the pandemic, an "acceptable" number of deaths because of covid has been set.
We can't save everyone. We're just trying to avoid the collapse of the health system.
Otherwise, more people would die of COVID, more people would die from cancer, car crashes, anything, etc. People we could keep alive without COVID saturating beds.
Elderly, overweight people, comordid have a higher risk of dying from COVID
But if we let things escalate, everyone is at a higher risk of dying

You're not more aware, you're more selfish.

[L33Tg33k]

Just got boosted up and doing my 15 minute observation. Glad it's over with. Until the next booster anyway.

[mj23]

i think its rad that a new user shows up with more or less the same goofy anti-vaccine talking points every couple weeks and then gets mobbed by a bunch of normal people who point out the extremely obvious counterpoints

it sucks because the wealth-transfer and fear-mongering are real, but that doesn't mean that masks don't help keep your germs to yourself (they do, and that's why your dentist wears one when they poke around in your mouth).

it also doesn't mean that the vaccines aren't doing something useful (remember covid is related to various cold viruses, and note that we don't have great vaccines for them either. the flu shot is a good comparison in that it clearly does something but it isn't a magic bullet. everybody hates the flu shot because it is kinda crappy but it still helps prevent killing a few thousand old people every winter)

so yeah man it'd be chill if people got shots and wore masks just so that if one of us breaks our arm skateboarding we don't get turned away at the hospital because it's full of people hacking up a lung with covid

and as for ivermectin or whatever... that shit is so politicized we'll never get good research on it. i know it's become a right vs left culture war issue but i don't care. here's my take: it doesn't matter anymore at this point because we have a bunch of fancy new pills and infusions that people can get when they're really sick. is it a massive handout for big pharma? yes, absolutely. but it's what we get here in our bullshit global capitalist system, and it'll still work for making sure not as many people completely eat shit when they're sick anymore. whether it's because of the horse paste or the steroids or the malaria drugs or whatever the fuck, who cares.

wearing a mask or getting a shot isn't gonna turn you into a pumpkin, it's really not that big of a deal. just hang in there for a little while longer until we all get omicron. and hope you don't get "long covid" of course. not as common as it used to be, so thats good.

[ok boomer]

So, for XMas this year, I got the Omicronz. Well... technically I think I got the germs on Dec. 23rd at my work XMas party - talking to these girls from the back that I never deal with ever. (it'll make sense soon) XMas eve, I kinda felt like I was randomly getting a fever, then 100% fine on XMas day. On the 26th, I cleaned/re-assembled my dryer vents. Did that, then walked upstairs, this weird headache nailed me when I got up the stairs. I got a fever within 5 minutes and was like "fuck this" - took some NyQuil and went to sleep it off. Headache was shitty so I didn't put on a show or anything, just slept. I basically slept for 5 days straight and sweat like a pig. I had a headache, fever, chills and leg/back aches the whole time. Pain in the hips was annoying af. Didn't check my phone as I was basically asleep for 5 days. Turns out, these girls in the back all Omicronz'ed the heck out of my work. Not sure which one brought it in (doesn't really matter) but half the company got it, fast. So, I feel okay but still exhausted and my legs get tired so fast its ridiculous. still dehydrated even though i've been drinking mad water. I lost 10 lbs. which has become my cheat sheet for wanting to lose 20, so I'm on this strictly veggie diet, especially because I can't taste a damn thing. Fever really wasn't that bad, but I was exhausted and still am. Its mostly like I am the most tired I've ever been without doing something. And I've got that "brain fog" and forgetting easy stuff. I currently know 7 people with it - they are all double vaxxed, and pissed that they got it. I was supposed to be going on a mini skate trip, but I can't even walk through my house without needing a nap - so not even happening.

[Uh Oh]

Damn, the season of giving gone wrong. Make sure to take it easy and get well soon!

[S.]

So, for XMas this year, I got the Omicronz. Well... technically I think I got the germs on Dec. 23rd at my work XMas party - talking to these girls from the back that I never deal with ever. (it'll make sense soon) XMas eve, I kinda felt like I was randomly getting a fever, then 100% fine on XMas day. On the 26th, I cleaned/re-assembled my dryer vents. Did that, then walked upstairs, this weird headache nailed me when I got up the stairs. I got a fever within 5 minutes and was like "fuck this" - took some NyQuil and went to sleep it off. Headache was shitty so I didn't put on a show or anything, just slept. I basically slept for 5 days straight and sweat like a pig. I had a headache, fever, chills and leg/back aches the whole time. Pain in the hips was annoying af. Didn't check my phone as I was basically asleep for 5 days. Turns out, these girls in the back all Omicronz'ed the heck out of my work. Not sure which one brought it in (doesn't really matter) but half the company got it, fast. So, I feel okay but still exhausted and my legs get tired so fast its ridiculous. still dehydrated even though i've been drinking mad water. I lost 10 lbs. which has become my cheat sheet for wanting to lose 20, so I'm on this strictly veggie diet, especially because I can't taste a damn thing. Fever really wasn't that bad, but I was exhausted and still am. Its mostly like I am the most tired I've ever been without doing something. And I've got that "brain fog" and forgetting easy stuff. I currently know 7 people with it - they are all double vaxxed, and pissed that they got it. I was supposed to be going on a mini skate trip, but I can't even walk through my house without needing a nap - so not even happening.

Damn. Take the time to recover! I hope you get well soon!

I will probably get it too since I work at a school. I am vaxxed with three shots, but it seems that doesn‘t help necessarily with not getting it.

[SneakySecrets]

I’m sorry @ok boomer, that sounds awful… I hope you feel better soon.  Do you feel like you’re on the downhill side of this thing?

[Fhk]

@ok boomer man this was painful to read. I know that Christmas means a lot to you and your boy. I hope you get back to 100% soon, and can chalk this up to a "your never gonna believe this one Christmas I had" story. Take care brotha!   

[Frank and Fred]

yeah, Omicron is not sounding as 'mild' as people originally hoped it would be..

its been ripping through my work also. i run a couple of youth housing programs that require 24/7 staffing and its been an absolute nightmare with staff and clients dropping like flies. I've been working like a dog keeping things going while I remain healthy. At first i was hoping i would get sick, so i could put my damn phone down and have my boss deal with it all but he's also sick and this variant doesn't sound like much fun, so i'm boosting with Vit C, D, Elderberry and so on...

Side note, I finally got my moderna booster on Tuesday. It fucked me up for 24 hours but feeling good today.

Anyway, heal up @ok boomer and stay well Pals. I need to go skateboarding or surfing ASAfuckingP.

[ra the weak man]

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i try to wash my masks. not sure if that actually helps but i can't afford to buy ten masks each week. i try to cop them at work for a five finger discount.

[close]

You can microwave them or put them in the oven to disenfect them.

I am a teacher and I have a lot of contact with different people. I wear a regular face mask, you know the one that medical staff uses. I have tried to wear ffp 2 masks, but it becomes difficult to make myself understood. It is pretty important for us that the class can understand what we are saying. I try to open the windows regularly and we test all the students three times a week. I could probably be better with opening windows and telling students to keep a distance, but I honestly try my best. Kids at a certain age are like young dogs, you‘d have to literally tie them down to get them to keep a distance.

hey teacher! leave them kids alone!

[ra the weak man]

so all you sickos, does your pcr test tell you omicron, delta burke, etc? or are you just ascribing the strain you heard on the news corresponding to when you caught ill? cause the test doesn't differentiate.

[EXTRA SPICY]

Got exposed yesterday! Let's fucking go!

[j....soy.....]

Was chatting with a security guard today and he was telling me how short staffed they were…..why?  No one wanted to get vaccinated……sounds about right….